What you read ain’t always what’s said!
April 14, 2008
You know the Malaysiakini report by Andrew Ong that has it that Tengku Faris had made some rather un-Bangsa Malaysia statements last week?
Well, Lil’ Hummingbird tells me that she heard from the horse’s mouth that the Crown Prince never made those statements.
Apparently, it was written in HRH’s scripted speech by some official, but he re-worked it the night before he was to deliver the keynote address.
I’m also told that whilst he delivered his re-worked speech, the media reps in attendance were given the original text.
So it would seem that the reporters merely extracted from the distributed original text and did not report on what was actually said.
I’ve suggested to Lil’ Hummingbird that she flutter away and hum in the royal ear that royal steps be taken to clear this most unfortunate confusion.
April 14, 2008 at 1:40 pm
I find it incredulous that Malaysiakini would not report the actual contents of his speech, rather than to rely on the ‘official script’. I am indeed troubled by such UMNO-style dismissal of the 50% of the country’s population as ‘insignificant 2nd-class non-Malays’.
April 14, 2008 at 2:06 pm
Perhaps, the Crown Prince should do the following:
a) Demand a retraction and an apology from the relevant media organisations.
b) Command the media reps attend a one day session to listen to excerpts of ‘titah baginda’ complied from previous speeches. Note: MP3s, recorders, laptops and handphones shall be deposited at the entrance.
and,
c) Make the media reps write a comprehension essay.
P.S. Wasn’t there a video recording, bro? Maybe, Lil’ Hummingbird can illuminate further.
*Off-line reporting at its best – Wah! So far lah, can e-mail me the full text speech ah? Ya ya, I’m in Starbucks now. Tomorrow’s print ah? Sure, sure can. Just e-mail ok?*
April 14, 2008 at 2:34 pm
Dear sir,
I believe I heard the snippet in which HRH was addressing members of the floor that was broadcast in the MSM news.
April 14, 2008 at 2:58 pm
Now all those who flared up emotionally and said the most unroyal things about HRH had better eat their words.
And pray that they don’t get charged with sedition.
BTW I suspect those who wrote the speech in the first place would have made sure the original version was distributed in the press kit. Their objective has been met. The wider audience has been reached.
April 14, 2008 at 4:09 pm
HELLO HARRIS, Apa khabar kechik, anymore painting contracts in sect 5, need some pocket money. Anyway the prince has to clear the air on this issue or else the spin ie. if he has not made the statements, puts the Kelantan Royals in bad light, just imagine 50 years after independence, there are people still harping on these issues, grow up fools, the katak di bawah tempurung mentality has to be thrown into the dustbin of history, haven’t these people realised we’re in a new century and millenia. wonder where they were when god was giving out brains. till then best of luck. can you contact me at this e-mail isamatrix@yahoo.co.uk as I need a copy of the judgement from the S.A. court.
April 14, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Tweet tweet… a fax copy of HRH actual speech in verbatim would be sent to you as soon as I receive it. Gimme till tomorrow mornin. HRH says that it cant be soft copied to me as the Quranic text was handwritten.
Lets just hope that it would be better to read than the one reported. But he did admit that he had said Islam is not comparable to other religions or beliefs.
Lil hummingbird
April 14, 2008 at 4:30 pm
If what you (or that lil’ bird) said is true, then it is quite serious. Imagine what misunderstanding & confusion this could caused. Already there are some condemnation comments appeared in other blogs!
May be some legal action should be taken against the culprits for distributing that damned original script & those reporter for reporting the “untruth” also?
April 14, 2008 at 5:05 pm
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April 14, 2008 at 5:31 pm
Dear Haris,
A responsible journalist would not process a written text without going through it while the person concerned delivers his speech.
This is a must for journalists to ensure accuracy of the speech and text and that they don’t contradict each other.
You get the discrepancies if you don’t check the text on delivery. If the journalists got the story wrong it could mean he/she misquoted the speech or worse still, these journalist were not present when the speech was delivered and therefore, use the text given to them.
OR they were told to use the text handed to them and not the one delivered by the speaker. This kind of journalist disgrace the profession and normal practise, they get warnings from the boss and an apology to the speaker ensued.
Plus publishing the real text of speech.
I for one, would want to see both text of speeches before making further comment.
But T Faris sure got an earful from many! (worse than your brickbats from what I read in Malaysia Today!). Take care.
arianna,
Lil’ hummingbird has promised to fax me the text which includes HRH handwritten amendments. Will make that available if and when I receive it.
April 14, 2008 at 5:41 pm
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April 14, 2008 at 5:59 pm
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The Prince should NOT say this kind of things!!! So what even if it’s the Prince or not??? In the end of the day, it’s ‘the rakyat’ priorities of which comes 1st.
April 14, 2008 at 6:19 pm
Is this the actual text delivered?
http://anotherbrickinwall.blogspot.com/2008/04/titah-tengku-mahkota-kelantan-di-bbpm.html
Anon,
Don’t know.
April 14, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Hmm… I’ll wait for clear evidence. I have not said anything so far about this, simply that I was speechless.
Thanks for the info Haris & Humming Bird. Nothing in Mkini or MT about this yet.
April 14, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Haris,
Thanks for this. Do send a copy of the actual text once you’ve received it from hummingbird.
zewt aka friend of sivin
April 14, 2008 at 7:25 pm
Take your authority & sedition… & shove it up your a**!
April 14, 2008 at 7:44 pm
Hmm… well we’ll have to wait for the text and see.
Some say this conference was basically an UMNO event. If so, I wonder what was His Highness doing gracing it with his presence?
Anyway, permit me to go off on a tangent here but some things the rakyat has to prepare for:
1. If Pak Lah goes, and it seems he might go soon, we’d better be prepared for a nastier successor, be it Najib or KuLi. For all his faults, I think Pak Lahis less ruthless in clamping down on political opposition than Mahathir and if Mahathir is promoting Najib or KuLi, then we the rakyat not only have to watch out but prepare a plan in case Pak Lah’s successor makes anti-democratic moves.
2. Joceline (sell-out)Tan wrote in The Star that Anwar’s time may be running out as an anti-hopping bill may be tabled. If this is true, whatever our feelings about the ethics of party hopping, I don’t think we should allow this bill to be even tabled as it is obviously a political manouver by BN to cling to power. I’ll bet if the danger passes and they see party hopping as benefitting them, they’ll table another bill to once again allow party hopping.
And seeing how they have behaved, threatening to cut off projects, MOUs, playing racial/religious cards etc to destabilize opposition held states, we really have to be prepared to do battle with BN, perhaps even by hastening their departure.
April 14, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Are you sure that your Lil Hum… got things right?
HRH appears to be living in another Malaysia! Has he read the constitution from cover to cover? Mana ada Malaysia adalah Negara Islam? The constitution says Malaysia is a secular nation the last time i checked.
HRH appears only to have eyes and ears for Ketuanan Melayu, what about Ketuanan Rakyat? 5% of his Kelata rakyat happens to be other than Malays.
April 14, 2008 at 9:12 pm
This is disgusting. Here we are, hanging onto the words printed by Malaysiakini and calling it the revolutionary media to the MSM and they deliver up a lemon like this. If what you say is true, Haris, then the “reporter” (note, I use reporter as opposed to a journalist, because that’s all this is – a blatant report) ought to get a new job.
April 14, 2008 at 10:39 pm
Ah well, amendments or no amendments to the original text, I hope there was actual video footage of the speech to put this matter to rest.
April 14, 2008 at 11:03 pm
In my opinion, I think we should not be too hard on the reporters.
If the spoken speech is different from the written text given to the reporters, then, I would think Tengku Faris would most likely have been sabotage by his people.
April 14, 2008 at 11:05 pm
If what was reported in The Sun today is true about UMNO’s involvement in pig farming, this will go down as the joke of the year! After all the hue and cry UMNO made about the RM 100 Million ultra modern pig farm in Selangor, it turns out that this ‘Mega’ project was the brainchild of none other than KHInziR Toyol. The same UMNO jokers who were crying for the blood of Selangor MB Tan Sri Khalid were actually the shareholders of the Bumi owned company involved in the project.
These jokers actually went to Germany to study how modern pig farming techniques can be done in Selangor. All these brouhaha about najis and haram was conveniently swept under the carpet all for the sake of making big bucks.
What makes me sick about all these is the sheer hypocrisy demonstrated by the racists of UMNO. They think by invoking the name Israel or Yahudi (JEW), Malays and Muslims will go berserk and brand any individual or entity that is associated with these two names as Kafir (Infidel) and Haram (Forbidden). So what’s not Haram about Muslims being involved in Pig rearing business. I’m no Ulama, but don’t you think if this news is true, this will make these UMNO boys as Kafir? This will also give credence to PAS’s labelling of UMNO as Kafir.
April 14, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Long, long ago, it was standard practice to “check against delivery”. It means the reporter assigned listens to the speech delivered with the text that was earlier distributed. What will be reported will be the speech that was delivered and not whatever was in the text (if the two versions differ).
Is this not done anymore?
April 14, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Oh, Really? Come On!!
Every time someone from the Royalty or BN Govt is reported making a racist statement, you can guarantee that the next day there will be a ‘Misquoted or taken out of context or Zionist or USA conspiracy’ claim.
It’s actually a very clever way to say something racist and then Spindoctor it to get away with bloody murder, especially since you only have to say ‘Ketuanan Melayu’ and Kg Baru will break out in rashes and epileptic twitches.
Let the Crown Prince apologise publicly, name the ‘Official’ who ’sabotaged’ the speech, sack him and sue him under the Sedition Act.
Then, maybe, just maybe, we can believe the Crown prince’s version of the ‘mix-up’. But until then, given Kelantan Royalty’s penchant and proven track-record in support of PAS and an Islamic State, forgive me if I sound cynical.
April 15, 2008 at 12:21 am
I’ve already said it before this. If MSM don’t know how to behave, it is they who put their printing and publishing and broadcasting license to jeapordy. The new PR government has every right to ask each and every one of these operators to account for their actions. If they can’t, then they would have betrayed the trust of such a license to disseminate news. Forefeiting such a license would certainly not be frowned upon by the free press of the world. Indeed they will hail it.
I am not suggesting that all their staff will be out of a job. The paper can go on under another name the next day under a completely new owner. The previous owners may either lease their assets or they can see it rot or they can sell it to the new owners who should undertake to only report the news and not any other bullshit.
April 15, 2008 at 1:20 am
If that copy in anotherbrickinwall.blogspot is correct, then I think Tengku Faris has been vastly misquoted. Mischief purposely created by the function organizers?
My only remaining gripe with that copy is his statement that Malasia is a “negara Islam bukan secular” – Islam surely is the official religion of Malaysia, but Malaysia is a secular country – re Constitution.
April 15, 2008 at 1:45 am
Maybe lil’ humming bird is trying to save HRH’s arse, by telling a lil’ white lie.
April 15, 2008 at 2:39 am
Sunday April 13, 2008
Tengku Faris: Don’t question Malay rights
By ZULKIFLI ABD RAHMAN/Sunday Star
KUALA LUMPUR: The special rights and privileges of Malays should not be questioned but the community should make every effort to improve and stay united, the Tengku Mahkota of Kelantan said.
Tengku Mohammad Faris Petra Sultan Ismail Petra reiterated that nobody should challenge Malay rights and privileges, adding that these developments were becoming apparent following the recent general elections.
“The Malay Rulers will act as a source of unity and loyalty among all the people as stated in the Constitution and Rukunegara.
“As such, the people should be united and no one should question the special rights and privileges of the Malays because it is quid pro quo in return for providing citizenships to 2.7 million people of other races who joined the Malay Federation.
“It is not appropriate for the other races to demand equal rights and privileges after they had already acquired their citizenships,” he said in his opening address at a Malay unity gathering held in conjunction with the Maulidur Rasul celebration at the Putra World Trade Centre yesterday.
The theme of the event, organised by a group of Malay NGOs named Barisan Bertindak Perpaduan Melayu (BBPM), was “Malay Unity is the Core of National Unity.”
The NGOs included the National Writers Alliance (Gapena), Federation of Peninsula Malay Students, Pekida and the Malaysian Islamic Consumers Association.
Tengku Mohammad Faris, however, reminded them that while they pursued stronger Malay unity, they should not ignore the rights of other races, such as freedom to practise their religions.
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Tengku Faris: Non-Malays should not seek equality
Andrew Ong | Apr 12, 08 2:10pm MALAYSIAKINI.COM
Kelantan Crown Prince Tengku Faris Petra said today that Malays had given into granting non-Malays citizenship and the latter should therefore not seek equality or special treatment.
He said this during his keynote speech at a forum titled “Malay unity is the core of national unity” organised by the newly formed Barisan Bertindak Perpaduan Melayu in Kuala Lumpur today.
Speaking to a crowd of about 1,000 people, Tengku Faris said the Malay rulers would be an umbrella to foster unity among all Malaysians, based on the Federal Constitution and the Rukun Negara.
“Therefore, the rakyat must unite and never raise issues regarding Malay rights and special privileges because it is a quid pro quo in gratitude for the giving in of citizenship (beri-paksa kerakyatan) to 2.7 million non-Malays into the Tanah Melayu federation.
“Thus, it is not appropriate for these other ethnic groups to have citizenship, only (later) to seek equality and privileges,” said Tengku Faris, who read from a 11-page prepared text.
However, the crown prince stressed that in an effort to unite the Malays, non-Malays also have rights that must be protected, such as in areas of religion.
As an example, Tengku Faris said non-Malays are allowed to practice their respective religions in peace. They must however do so in accordance with the law and “not be provocative towards Islam”.
“The Malay rulers are the head of the Islamic religion and Malaysia is a Islamic country (negara Islam), not secular. We have our own formula (as a country) which is different from others,” he added, drawing thunderous applause from the crowd.
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Pada bahagian awal ucapannya, Datuk Mohd Nakhaie Ahmad (Yang Dipertua, Yayasan Dakwah Islamiah Malaysia [Yadim]) berkata generasi tua bukan Melayu menjelang kemerdekaan menerima hakikat bahawa negara ini milik Melayu yang memberi jaminan hak dan keistimewaan kepada penduduk peribumi itu.
“Penyerahan kerakyatan kepada orang-orang bukan Melayu adalah bersyarat. Mereka mestilah menghormati hak-hak istimewa orang-orang Melayu, kedaulatan institusi Raja-raja Melayu, kedudukan Islam sebagai agama negara dan bahasa Melayu sebagai bahasa rasmi.
“Semua persetujuan itu diabadikan dalam Perlembagaan Persekutuan. Ia tidak boleh dibangkitkan lagi dan telah diaktakan sebagai perkara sensitif yang tidak boleh dipersoalkan oleh mana-mana pihak.”
Namun begitu, tambahnya, generasi muda bukan Melayu tidak menghormati persetujuan ini dan orang Melayu turut terikut-ikut dengan rentak perjuangan bukan Melayu.
“Alasan mereka (bukan Melayu) bahawa, sebagai rakyat, mereka berhak menikmati persamaan mutlak. Hak istimewa orang-orang Melayu dianggap diskriminasi. Semua agama mesti dilayan sama rata bagi menghormati hak dan kebebasan beragama.
“Hakikatnya, persamaan yang dituntut itu tidak adil, kerana ia dibuat tanpa menghargai sejarah dan syarat mereka (bukan Melayu) diterima sebagai rakyat negara ini,” katanya.
“Malangnya, terdapat di kalangan sebahagian kecil orang-orang Melayu terikut-ikut dengan rentak perjuangan orang-orang bukan Melayu yang tidak memahami atau sengaja tidak mahu memahami sejarah negara ini.
“Berlandaskan perjuangan hak asasi manusia dan kebebasan beragama konon, mereka (generasi muda Melayu) melihat bahawa hak istimewa orang-orang Melayu dan Islam sebagai agama negara, tidak relevan lagi.
“Hak kita yang sah, tetap hak dan sebarang usaha merampas hak itu atau mengeluarkannya daripada garis kesinambungan sejarahnya, mestilah ditentang.
“Suara meremehkan hak kita kian lantang. Usaha jahat itu mesti ditentang dengan tegas dan berkesan. Jika dibiarkan, dayuslah kita. Bangsa yang dayus, tidak berhak hidup. Putaran sejarahnya, lambat laun akan berhenti.”
“Sebagai bangsa bermaruah di bumi sendiri, kita tidak akan membiarkan kata-kata ‘tak kan Melayu hilang di dunia’ menjadi sepi, sesepi tanah perkuburan.”
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/81293
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April 15, 2008 at 6:09 am
Hey bro,
Yer might want to have a look at this -
http://asylum60.blogspot.com/2008/04/melayu-ber-clueless.html
Has the original article at Mkini been altered as alluded by Walski?
The plot thickens…. I hope you made a screenshot of the original. Check your cache.. and don’t ask me how to.
April 15, 2008 at 6:33 am
If true, this instance is rather disturbing. Most of us who depend on alternative media have always regarded Malaysiakini as upholding professional ‘journalistis values’. And malaysiakin has always preached the same to earn the respect of its subscribers.
If the error is true, at best it reflects lazy journalism, at worst, inaccurate and misleading reporting. It reasonably invites the question of whether the reporter was even there. Where’s the fact-checking and oversight by editor?
All said, I hope it’s a one-off abberation for which I hope Malaysiakini will, as it track record reflects, quickly publish a correction.
April 15, 2008 at 7:09 am
Unless they also altered the video feed shown in the news, I believe HRH speech did indeed sound like what it was reported.
Let’s wait for Lil hummingbird to enlighten us.
April 15, 2008 at 9:33 am
Haris, awaiting the faxed copy from hummingbird. From the text made available by Anon, Malaysiakini’s report was spot on.
If it is so, it is sad that the royalty has decided to add oil to the fire that UMNO is fanning all this while.
April 15, 2008 at 10:26 am
If it is true, he should come out with a retraction and make sure that the people responsible for this is known.
April 15, 2008 at 10:58 am
Actually if you guys do read chinese, all the chinese papers are reporting the same thing like malaysiakini.
April 15, 2008 at 12:09 pm
BN kian hari bagaikan bahtera yang sedang tenggelam. Dari menyelamatkan diri sendiri dari lemas, nampaknya parti-parti komponen BN khususnya Umno, MCA dan MIC nampaknya semakin ghairah meniup sentimen perkauman.
Perbuatan yang tidak bertanggung jawab ini akan membawa padah kepada BN sendiri kerana rakyat negara ini sudah matang dan tidak mudah diperdaya oleh tipu muslihat BN. Berita yang paling mengembirakan saya adalah mendengar yang Badawi tidak akan berundur dari tampok pemerintahanya. Saya berkata demikian bukan kerana saya sayang atau sokong Si Bodoh ni dari terus menerajui tampok pemerintahan negara ini. Bagi saya, semakin lama Badawi kekal sebagai PM, semakin banyak najis BN akan terdedah khususnya dari MahaFiraun dan kuncu-kuncunya. Sebab itulah, mereka semua hendak Badawi meletak jawatan. Dalam istilah Bahasa Inggeris, strategi ini disebut Damage Control.
Apa yang membimbangkan saya adalah dalam keghairahan mereka menjadi jaguh bangsa masing-masing, mungkin segelintir rakyat boleh menjadi mangsa jerat perkauman yang dipasang oleh BN. Kalau Umno memperjuangkan bangsa dan agama, mengapa pula Umno membisu apabila MCA yang dipimpin oleh Ong bersaudara lantang mencaci dan mengkritik agama Islam yang suci dan juga bertindak biadap terhadap Tengku Mahkota Kelantan? MIC juga mempermainkan sentimen perkauman dengan kononnya memperjuangkan hak kaum India. Umno pula sering mempersoalkan tindakan Kerajaan-kerajaan Negeri Pakatan Rakyat kononnya meminggirkan kaum Melayu. Yang terbaru adalah mengenai tuduhan yang tidak berasas terhadap Kerajaan Negeri Selangor mengenai projek perternakan babi. Menurut Terence Fernandez dari akbar The Sun hari ini, projek babi ini adalah buah tangan Umno sendiri.
Oleh itu, saya merayu kepada saudara-saudara dan saudari-saudari sekalian khususnya kaum Muslimin dan Muslimat supaya jangan terpengaruh dengan fitnah dan dakyah BN demi kesejahteraan negara tercinta kita ini. HIDUP KETUANAN RAKYAT! HIDUP MALAYSIA!
April 15, 2008 at 12:17 pm
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April 15, 2008 at 12:25 pm
haha… if so (that Mkini was right after all), then haris is the one who should apologise to everyone including Malaysiakini..
A good lesson that everyone (PM, MSM, journos, bloggers and pollies) please get facts straight before publishing!
April 15, 2008 at 12:58 pm
I think the burden of proof lies on Lil Hummingbird; obviously I hope the case is as she says, but I honestly doubt it. Even if the copy posted on anotherbrickinthewall.blogspot.com is the right one, it’s rather inflammatory and obviously erroneous with regard to the constitution (nowhere does the constitution support ketuanan Melayu, as that transcription of the speech explicitly suggests). It’s entirely possible that there is a third transcript out there differing from both the media’s and the blog’s, but I’m not holding my breath. If Tengku Faris truly was sabotaged, he has to hold the official responsible for this accountable and explicitly disavow the remarks attributed to him.
April 15, 2008 at 3:08 pm
LOL GUYS,
THAT WAS JUST THE SLANT OF THE NEWS STORY..THAT’S WHY THE MORE NEWS OUTLET YOU HAVE THE BETTER..
Kelantan Regent calls for Malay unity
KUALA LUMPUR, Apr 13 (ES) – The rights of the minorities should be upheld and the law provided for them to practice their religion but there shouldn’t be any “provocative” statements made against Islam.
“The Malay rulers are the chief (patron) of Islam and Malaysia is an Islamic and not a secular state (modeled in) our own way and differs from other countries,” His Royal Highness Tengku Mohammad Faris Petra Ismail Petra said at the Putra World Trade Center (PWTC) on April 12.
At the same time, the Regent who called for Malay politicians from across the political spectrum to sit together, conceded that “ideological issues” and “polemics” would only contribute to the Malay disunity.
“To discuss about the polemics (regarding) Islamic state, secular state, a welfare state will only make people lose focus,” he said.
“Due to this confusion, a scenario arises where Malays become compartmentalised, divided and polarized,” he said in a keynote speech at the “Malay Unity Assembly” forum.
The forum was held in conjunction with the anniversary of the Prophet Muhammad Birthday. Some 25 Malay oriented non-governmental organizations (NGOs) participated in the assembly with their membership projected to hit 1 million soon.
Constitutional Monarch
The Regent who felt that the election result undermined the position of the Malay Muslims, said efforts to enhance Malay unity should be given priority.
“The results of the 12th general election showed that the Malay community is divided and facing other communities who are more dominant economically and politically,” he said.
He also cautioned against open criticisms that aimed to slander and derogatory remarks that portrayed “the Malays as the sole source of evil in society such as corruption, drug (abuses) and others”.
“Others remain silent on the humiliating (shortcomings) of their fellow race members but we Muslims make it our first hobby,” he said.
In a 10 page speech intersperse with Malay proverbs and veiled criticisms, the Regent also reminded those present on the Prophet’s tradition of doing good to even to those who harmed him. – Saadon Aksah/ES
April 15, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Why do we find it difficult to believe that racist statements can come from royalty? Why are we trying so hard to dispell it when nothing is forthcoming from the palace?
Yes, some will have us believe it is protocol and blah blah. Whta is more important- protocal or the truth?
We must be aware that ‘blindly’ defending the royalty and Pakatan Rakyat smacks of BN paranoia of the past.
We must practice transparency and not just advocate it.
April 15, 2008 at 3:12 pm
what la you malaysiakini… all this time most of rakyat rely on you…. you want war with the sultan of kelantan kaaaa????…. like this, i will withdraw my membership laaa….
April 15, 2008 at 4:05 pm
Let’s wait for Lil Hummingbird to present the earlier mentioned materials/evidence.
To me, till evidence contradicts it, Malaysiakini’s report remains spot on. And the video snippet of HRH speaking, broadcast in the news seem to be in agreement.
Let’s wait for Lil Hummingbird.
April 15, 2008 at 4:16 pm
In think the Rakyat should be careful and not flow according to which side the wind is blowing. It has been many days now and there has been no news from Kelantan. Maybe there wasn’t any scheming at all.
April 15, 2008 at 4:17 pm
So now, the royal are taking over from UMNO to champion Malay Supremecy.
And thats just royal, they even have a law protecting them and allowing them to remain beyond reproach.
April 15, 2008 at 4:25 pm
I heard what was said with my own ears. On TV1 10.30 evening news I shamefully admit.
April 15, 2008 at 5:40 pm
SURE OR NOT? WHO WROTE THE SPEECH IS INEXCUSABLE.
BUT THEN AGAIN, THIS TENGKU SHOULD STEP OUT AND APOLOGIZE FOR GIVING THIS INSENSITIVE SPEECH.
JUST BE A MAN AND SAY SORRY LA! LIKE THIS ALSO GOT PROBLEM KE?
April 15, 2008 at 6:01 pm
I too agree with all your points … !!!
April 15, 2008 at 6:06 pm
hmmm … why did Lil hummingbird release such an info?
Luckily for us, Malaysiakini as alternative news still bolih diharapkan !!
April 15, 2008 at 7:07 pm
Inbreeding has been proven to weaken the DNA causing the breed to be inferior in many ways. The obvious is the mental deficiences such that whatever is done or said by the affected person should be excusable as the person is intellectually incapable of understanding or presenting coherent thoughts in a way that is acceptable to all.
April 16, 2008 at 10:01 am
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