Wong Chun Wai, here’s your litmus paper test!
May 10, 2008
“This is a historic decision. It is a major step for a progressive, multi-racial and multi-cultural Malaysia”.
“It was Siti Fatimah’s right to embrace Islam and likewise, it is also her right to return to her original faith. This is a matter for her to decide and no one else”
“It is hoped that with this decision, the cases of affected Malaysians would be resolved”.
So says Ong Ka Ting, as reported in the online Star yesterday under the heading ‘MCA hails court decision’.
No surprise that MCA is in the cesspool that it is today!
On the one hand, Ka Ting proclaims that this was a matter for Tan alone to decide and no-one else.
Yet in the same breath he declares that her having to submit to a judicial process where she could only formally exit Islam upon the ‘yes, go ahead, you may go’ order of the Syariah court, as ‘a major step for a progressive, multi-racial and multi-cultural Malaysia’ .
And this decision, he hopes, will provide the solution for the Lina Joys and Revathis!
Missing altogether the point that some judge was deciding whether Tan could or could not renounce Islam!
This, for Ka Ting and MCA, amounts to “a matter for her to decide and no one else” ?
Could somebody in the MCA think-tank shake this man up from his slumber?
Or else tell him that it would help if he put on his thinking cap before he shoots off his mouth!
Glad to see that Wong Chun Wai, at least, has not missed the inherent difficulties in the Siti Fatimah decision.
In his blog, WCW says this ( the emphasis in red is my own and not WCW’s :
‘The Syariah High Court in Penang may have allowed the application by Muslim convert Siti Fatimah Tan Abdullah to renounce Islam and revert to her original faith but that’s not the end of her problems. Or the problems of others in the same situation. The court did not grant her application to change the religious status on her IC from Muslim to Buddhist, saying that it did not come under the court’s jurisdiction and she had to pursue the matter with the National Registration Department. Let’s hope the NRD would be kind to her. Unlike the civil courts, Syariah Courts are not bound by the principle of judicial precedents. The Syariah court judges exercise their own judicial findings. The Penang Syariah Court’s decision maybe unprecedented but other states may not necessarily follow suit. For that matter, the next case that comes up in Penang, the judge is not bound to make a similar decision. The concept of precedent is for the purpose of consistency which is normally followed, unless the facts and circumstances being tried are different. But lawyers and court reporters have told me that the gates have not been opened. The Penang decision is a victory for the freedom of religion but don’t jump for joy too fast’
Wong, kudos to you.
However, given that your paper has given such prominence to the idiotic views of Ka Ting on this very important issue, how’s about your devoting an op-ed on your take as articulated in your blog on the Siti Fatimah decision?
In the print version of the Star, please.
One more NS trainee death.
DAP says suspend or scrap this programme.
Health Minister Liow says that operating procedures for health matters regarding national service trainees will be reviewed, according to the online Star.
Many parents have e-mailed me to say this ‘killer’ government programme must stop.
Can it be stopped? And if it cannot be stopped, can it nonetheless be avoided?
I’ve been in contact with my friend, Malik Imtiaz, who has very kindly agreed to speak at a forum bearing the same title as this post. This is in the pipeline.
Meanwhile the ‘no nonsense’ e-group has been set up. Could I please trouble you to e-mail me again at thepeoplesparliament@gmail.com if you would like to be involved in this effort.
Sue this incompetent ‘makan gaji buta’ government
May 10, 2008
bluefire sent this in as a comment.
bluefire, I’ve just got too much on my plate just now to get directly involved in your effort.
I’m therefore putting your comment up as a post in the hope that it will elicit support from others who are prepared to help.
If there’s any lawyer reading this, maybe you want to look into this issue.
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I have 2 wonderful sons whom are undergoing mental abuse with their mother (ex-wife) and her boyfriend. My youngest was molested when he was only 4 years of age. I have been pursuing this matter with Jabatan Kebajikan Masyarakat as well as the police since 2004. I am now planning to sue the Kementerian Wanita for not taking the necessary action when needed. JKM went to the extent of telling me that if I made to much noise, they’ll take my boys away and put them in a welfare dept. home. Of course, they also reminded me what these homes were like. It is apparently a place where kids get sodomized!
I have also gone to court to vary the court order and the stupid judge had the audacity to call my boys (14 years and 7 years old)ungrateful children in front of the lawyers. The judge is only a JC and is incapable of accessing the situation or the damage being caused to the children. There have been numerous police reports made, including some made by my ex-wife and yet NO action has been taken. Useless illiterate cops are incapable of handling this type of situation.
I currently help out by running a social service / community center for PKR at Desa Mentari. I do attend KJPP and I would very much like to discuss this further with you. We have in place a government system filled with illiterates. Wasn’t that Zakaria Derus guy a railway gate keeper or something? What can be expected of our judges? Illiterates!
We should begin a class action law suit against the Kementerian Wanita and prod them for information. How many children have they destroyed and how many more will they destroy? Their entire country is filled with social related issues and I will be going after Kementerian for failing in it’s obligation and duties. They have committed treason to the public and must be hanged in public!
To the Malaysian Public, if you don’t do something about what is happening at the Kementerian wanita, we have failed our duty towards our children and this nation. We are responsible for putting this shitheads in power and now we must fix the problem. We cannot simply stand and watch. Let us do something and not just talk. Our nation will no longer have normal kids in the next 20 years or so and it’s our fault, if we don’t do something now.
The head of the legal dept at Kementerian Wanita is a Encik Rafi and his assistant is Cik Fitri. Fitri’s mobile number is 0133644635. There is also another piece of wood in this dept. You may ask for Encik Jeyaraman at 26904080.
Please respond to my comments if you want to join us to fight for our children’s rights. You may also visit http://www.pemalik.org for further info.

