DSAI, you want to spill the rest of the beans?
June 10, 2008
Yup, Justice Ian HC Chin sure dropped a bombshell!
If you still haven’t read it, catch it HERE.
Question everyone is asking now is whether Dr M will say this was all part of his prime ministerial prerogative and therefore he’s not obliged to explain anything? Or he cannot remember this, given his busy schedule in running a country?
One little detail from the judge got my attention, though.
His Lordship is reported to have said, in relation to the boot camp that a few of them were packed off to :
‘The then prime minister was scheduled to talk but he did not turn up and instead sent his then deputy who instead of talking invited questions and the one question I remembered being asked was — Are politicians looking for girls when they are often seen loitering at posh hotel lobbies?’
Anwar, could you spare us all having to endure the lies that are sure to follow from your ex-boss and just tell us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth, please?
June 10, 2008 at 5:09 pm
Yes, I am all agog on the story to Anwar’s statement at the boot camp.
Can you imagine – even judges can be cowed to such a degree – what more can be expected of mere raykats without position, connection and money?
Such is the might of total power !!
June 10, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Give the bloody mamak a black eye and throw him in jail.
Blatant misuse of power entrusted upon him !!
SOAB
June 10, 2008 at 7:21 pm
Only in malaysia semua bolih hope to see the day when the rot ends once and for all.Absolute power corrupts to the very end.
June 10, 2008 at 7:27 pm
The more i hear of the can of worms that is opening about the 50 BS years that BN has been ruling the more frustated i feel that all of us did not walk the extra mile to do something about it.
The fact is we allowed Dr Kutty to con and piss all over us.
Let this be a very expensive lesson to all of us and never to be repeated again
June 10, 2008 at 7:41 pm
What a question that was from DSAI?
Is this the kind of question one asks the honorable judges?
However, politicians can easily explain off convincingly
at these kind of lighter questions!
kolaar,
In fairness, the report does not categorically make out that the question was posed by DSAI.
In fact, read in its context, it may well be that the question came from someone else.
June 10, 2008 at 7:47 pm
there was only one spoilt child playing in the play ground called Malaysia, and that was Dr Kutty.
Dr Kutty from India fooled the indegenous people of Malaya that he was one of them. Being so gullible the indegenous people actually belived him and made him their leader.
Seeing that the Malays were so gullible, Dr Toyol crossed the seas to also claim he was a leader of the Malays and got himself to be a state leader.
This is the fate of the Malays of Malaya who couldnt not find anyone amongst themselves to lead them………. sad is it not ?
June 10, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I am sorry Haris. I missed the context.
Anyhow, let’s wait for DSAI’s reply.
Thanks for putting things in the right perspective.
kolaar,
No worries
June 10, 2008 at 8:30 pm
You got to be careful there Haris. As it states there in that report, the Deputy PM instead of talking, “invited questions”. Now unless a specific question was asked as to how judges ought to conduct themselves when confronted with “sensitive cases” and he had replied in support of favouring the government’s position, you can’t hope to nail the man here.
June 10, 2008 at 9:13 pm
let the person who has not sin throw the first stone.
June 10, 2008 at 10:32 pm
The question here ”……invited question and the question being asked was”
From the above comments it appears DSAI was the one asking the question but reading it again it appears the boot camp judges were the one asking that question.
Can someone please ask Judge Chin to clarify
Going through what Judge Chin says even Augustine did not judge fairly at all, that is why after the trial he became a datuk and I hope he will go to his grave with the stigma of having no balls
June 10, 2008 at 10:54 pm
haris,
To many blogs turning up everyday to champion something or voice something or wasting time of showing their holidays journey.(i already tired reading all this rubbish)
In between this charges of judge spilling the beans every where unbelieveble.
1.As judges is fomerly is a lawyer where is BAR council?
Are Bar council job to stop from beginning abused of power/cheat their client/attend to complain regarding the lawyers.
I think Bar council also at fault not maintain a certain amount of intergrity,so in between this corrupted judges formely was a lawyer was let loose.Their son/daughter (of bar council) graduated from lawyer become judge.
Lawyer-some are good,some looking for power and some will be poor to champion human rights.
I will blame the bar council first,because as a parent to the lawyer,they fail to noticed their child is corrupted and they keep quite.
Now the pandora box open.
raj raman-like u i am spade.looks into the roots cause of any problems first.aiyaa no point sue anyone,only the lawyer make money,the judgement will favor who are u,how much $ u have and which gang you belong.(mamak gang?)
pls allow me to use this words for once- FUCK THE SPIDER THIS CORRUPTED JUSTICE SYSTEM IN MALAYSIA.
June 10, 2008 at 11:20 pm
Hi Bro Haris,waiting for DSAI to spill the rest of the beans? Wait no further b’cos I think he will not favour us with a sincere and truthful reply.This incident happened more than 20 years ago when he was the DPM at that time.Most probably he is a conspirator with TDM to screw up the judiciary,little knowing that one day he himself became a victim.Coming this far now,he hopes that most of us will not dig up his past misdeeds and demand for explainations or even apologies.So I think he will distance himself away from this latest revelation.Only a fool will expose his own past to cause damage to his plans.Being the cunning fox he is ,spilling the beans is the last thing he will do.Oh yes,by the way,he still owns the rakyat alot of explainations for all the things he did and said when he was in the gomen.I think many of us still remember his past misdeeds.
June 10, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely, this is a case in point.
This case tells us not to invest too much power in the hands of one person or in one party. The damage of the abuse is not apparent to us till the harm is done. We should not allow history to repeat itself.
There is also a lesson here, we should not become too attach to one particular individual or to one particular party, be it mahathir or Anwar Ibrahim, or the BN or the BR.
June 11, 2008 at 4:23 am
God is Living. Mahathir’s dirt is coming out one by one. But he will get few explanations for this and that. But would we buy it?
June 11, 2008 at 5:30 am
I’m of the opinion that Anwar did well. Because rather than “talking” as instructed by Mahathir to “indoctrinate” the judges, he kept off and asked for questions if there was one. And since the judges and the judicial officers were expecting “indoctrination and threats”, they cooled off and went to Dream Land by asking petty questions like “Are politicians are not looking for girls when they are often seen loitering at posh hotel lobbies?”
June 11, 2008 at 4:34 pm
Dear Haris,
Judge like Justice Ian Chin is rare in Malaysia, eh.
I remember my lawyers friends whenever they have cases against or defending clients against the government and its leaders, they wished Chin, Justices Charles Ho or Kamal were the presiding judges. Speak volumes of these men’s integrity, yes?
The classic case was Pairin charged(1980s)with power abused that could caused his CM post if found guilty and fined above RM2,000. He got one day jail and RM1,800 fine and got to keep his post! We Sabahans knew the charge was political.
That was the case that angered Tun M and he said:” Maybe the judiciary is trying to tell us something!”.
Forgot the brave judge name and don’t know what happened to him. Hope he’s ok. Chin’s revelation speaks of that situation.
arianna,
Can count the good judges in the country with the fingers on one hand.
Ian HC Chin is undoubtedly one of them
June 11, 2008 at 4:56 pm
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June 11, 2008 at 6:49 pm
I for one no longer care. Who said what and who did what. It’s all in the past. There are more pressing issues like the rising cost of living.
The haters amongst your commentators are really wallowing in it, aren’t they? Well, expect more “blast from the past” soon. Compliments of the present administration as it does divert our attention from our present pains.