Imagine for a moment that Bala’s revelation yesterday was not by way of an SD at a PC, but by way of oral testimony at the ongoing murder trial in Shah Alam.
Then imagine that his bombshell today, too, was not by way of an SD at yet another PC, but at a continuation of his testimony in that murder trial.
What is the presiding judge to make of all this?
Believe Bala’s testimony on day 1 or that on day 2?
Or reject his testimony in toto?
It would seem apparent that the witness has been subjected to some external pressure, either before day 1, or before day 2, of the evidence-taking process. This would amount to an interference with the due process of the court.
An offence, surely!
By whom?
And why?
To aid the court in coming to a conclusion on these pressing questions, ought not counsel for the prosecution seek clarification from Bala as to his whereabouts between the close of proceedings on day 1 and the commencement of day 2?
Who was he with?
What did he do?
Ought not counsel for the prosecution seek clarification from Bala as to how he was subjected to duress before day 1? Who did it? When? Where? How?
Should not counsel for the prosecution elicit clarification from Bala about the overnight change of solicitor? How long has he known his new solicitor? How long did he know his previous? How did the first solicitor come to be appointed? Why did he not continue with the first? Was the first aware of the circumstances in which he came to make the first SD? Did the first draw up the first SD? If so, was it on Bala’s own instructions? When precisely was the second instructed to appear with Bala today?
Now, assuming after all this clarification is obtained, the presiding judge decides at the end of the trial to either reject Bala’s day 1 evidence, or day 2 evidence, or reject all of Bala’s evidence. And let’s say there is an appeal to the Court of Appeal against the final decision of the judge after trial.
The Court of Appeal would also have to deal with the matter of the rejection of Bala’s testimony, whether in toto or in part.
Now, practising lawyers will tell you that on an appeal after trial, appellate judges are extremely reluctant to interfere with the trial judge’s finding with regards to the acceptance or rejection of witnesses testimony.
And it almost always is because the trial judge had the opportunity to witness the demeanour of the witnesses during the evidence-taking process whilst the appellate judges did not.
The appellate judges only have the transcript of the notes of proceedings without the benefit of observing the witness in the witness box.
This is important.
I was at the PC yesterday. Many of you were not there.
I was able to observe Bala’s demeanour at the PC yesterday. Most of you could not.
You can try to get the next best thing, though.
Watch the video clip of the PC yesterday.
If you’re short on time, I’d recommend the first (Malaysiakini) video clip, from the eighth minute on, so that you do not have to endure listening to Anwar.
I’ve scoured the net to see if there is a video clip of the PC today, without success. If there is one out there that any of you know of, do let me know so that I can link it. It would be good for comparison with yesterday’s.
Star online reports today that ‘visibly perturbed Balasubramaniam remained mum on Friday when met by pressmen’, that Bala ‘refused to answer questions posed to him and left quickly after his lawyer distributed the second statutory declaration to reporters’ and that his new lawyer, Arulampalam, ‘also refused to entertain pressmen, giving only a brief statement that his client was under duress and that he was upset’.
Meanwhile, Malaysiakini also reports today that the lawyer who appeared with Bala at yesterday’s PC, Americk Sidhu, has denied that Bala was under any duress when he swore the first SD on 1st July that he met Bala about two months ago, and that yesterday, after the PC, before 5pm, Americk himself dropped Bala off at the Brickfields police station. In yet another Malaysiakini report, Americk is reported to have said that Bala got a call immediately after the PC yesterday, requesting him to attend at the police station and Americk advised him to comply with the request.
I also had the opportunity to observe Bala after the PC yesterday, away from the PKR HQ, and that additional observation has helped in my own assessment of his overall demeanour yesterday. I will not share this with you as it will mean your having to take my word rather than relying on your own assessment of the material I have assembled here as well as that available in public space.
So, yes, there was duress when Bala signed an SD, but was it on the 1st of July, or the 4th?
Think about it, and share your rational thoughts
rajraman666
July 4, 2008
Nothing to say.
I am under duress.
rajraman.
rajraman666
July 4, 2008
Something to say.
To many liars around.
Dont know who telling the truth.
rajraman.My dream say better lie and get some money or i will send to booth camp wrap with c4.
rajraman666
July 4, 2008
candleman,
One question for u.
1.If someone make a police report (one police report)do they need to make another 1,000 police report for the police to take action?
Is there one police report sufficient enough for the police to take action?
Please anwser me.
rajraman.file under piss off.
rajraman666,
One’s enough
MIMI
July 4, 2008
‘Duress’ was a shaking, nervous and sweaty Munawar Anees admiting to being sodomised by Anwar Ibrahim back in 1998.
There didn’t seem to be anything duress-full about our PI friend yesterday – see photo in Star today as evidence.
SD, counter SD, whatever, whether he did or did not no longer matters, Najib is guilty as hell in the court of public opinion.
It is to his/UMNO/BN’s own peril if they dont recognise this.
And resorting to 10 year old tactics to sway public opinion is so so yesterday, the world has changed, Malaysia has changed, Malaysians have changed, Hidup rakyat!
rajraman666
July 4, 2008
Than,why do you ask me to make a police report when so many people already make a police about HINDRAF earlier about Utayakumar health.
Anwser me.
rajraman.file under attack haris ibrahim.
rajraman666,
Can you first establish for me the relevance of your inquiry in the context of the subject-matter of this post?
MUH
July 4, 2008
You need not be a rocket scientist to figure this out:-
Bala either got very very rich overnight or his balls got squeezed yesterday or both.
This is the time I am ashamed to be a Malaysian.
Malaysia tak boleh !
rajraman666
July 4, 2008
Repeat again because some spelling missing.
Why than when i ask about uthayakumar health under ISA treament there are hundreds of police report lodge by others but u ask me to make police report.
please anwser me.
rajraman.file under attack haris ibrahim.(i have a reason to attack u,will let u know later)
See my earlier response
Mr Smith
July 4, 2008
Haris,
I was not present at the PC yesterday and I don’t have to. I make simple deductions from the train of events and after taking into consideration the person’s professional experience.
Let us not forget that he had spent 17 years in the police force and now an experienced PI. So, he is no ordinary mortal to be bullied into saying what he does not want to say in his first SD.
In a country where police and thieves wear the same uniform, I am inclined to believe he was threatened with dire consequences if did not do as told – to make amendments to the first SD.
I am also inclined to believe that the 2nd lawyer was assigned by the police.
When immigration records can be erased with such ease what is there to stop the ‘mighty’ from erasing a line or two where important names are mentioned.
Need I be a judge to make educated conclusions.
The duress came from the police!
artic turban
July 4, 2008
ditto, you answered all the questions, yesterday no duress today looking at photographs he is stressed up, its a no brainer. harris another thing, I’m sure in your years of cross-examining witnesses on the stand, you can judge from the demeanor of the person giving answers whether he is lying under oath or telling the truth, some of the “tells” (as the call it in poker), and also proven in physcology studies (go read the internet) and watching such studies on tv, when a person is telling a lie (this is a natural occurance without reflection)he/she has a tendency to look down and also to look down towards and to the left right, eye movements are not balanced, “shifty” is the term i am looking for, get to the point you’ll be saying, he goes, watch the pc of najib on youtube yesterday and watch najib’s demeanor when he make the denial of not knowing altantuya, he looks down, and everytime he mentioned her name and denied he was looking down, gut feel, draw your on conclusion, what say you harris?.
Ashok
July 4, 2008
They are playin politics over a murdered woman. If they say they have “evidence” implicating someone in murder, then, for god’s sake just bloody reveal them. No need for stupid SD’S that are susceptible to human fallibility. And don’t just say that the evidence will revealed in “due course”. That will earn them more respect and credibility. So, Anwar and PKR, just ******** reveal this evidence that you have, if not, you are as low down as the ones you point your fingers at.
artic turban
July 4, 2008
typo, draw your on , should read draw your “own”
toyolbuster
July 4, 2008
This is the most bizarre twist of event that even Agatha Christie would beg for an answer. I just can’t understand how on earth could Bala’s 1st lawyer just drop him off into the lion’s den unaccompanied, knowing the damning consequences that he faces immediately after the 1st PC. How could Anwar just let him walk off unprotected knowing damn well he was most certainly the prime target after such an explosive exposure by him. I would, if I was Anwar, take Bala into hiding and protect him of his dear life, or at least get the best lawyers to represent him in such event that he was asked to go into the police station. But hell no, his brilliant lawyer just dropped him off at the gate of the police station. No wonder Bala got rid of him real quick. And serve you right Anwar for using Bala and dumping him just after he has served your purpose. Are we looking forward to a new government, you tell me.
toyolbuster,
I fully endorse your observations here
rajraman666
July 4, 2008
I follow up about hindraf.one of the hindraf wife said nobody support her(her husband house will be auction),but the current leader of HINDRAF say the are supporting her by giving $2,000.00 a month.
Who’s telling the truth?
Can u look into this.(i did donate some pennies)
sorry haris – i trust what u say.
rajraman.file under an appology to haris ibrahim.
Anyone want to take this up?
Fudzail
July 4, 2008
While we are on this juicy matter, take a break and drink watermelon juice http://1426.blogspot.com/2008/07/watermelons-could-boost-sex-drive.html
ajip
July 4, 2008
bro haris
i think, bala is purposely sent by najib to give wrong SD.
thats why najib was smiling yesterday and said
“Saya amat relaks. Macam yang boleh awak tengok, saya boleh senyum. Saya tidak risau kerana kebenaran akan terbukti” (sumber : utusan)
he was so confident yesterday. he knew that “kebenaran akan terbukti”
now i am thinking whether RPK was also given false info. hope i am wrong. did RPK received info from Bala? see latest news from Rockybru
dalam RPK SD, dia ada menyebut pasal KJ dan AAB. sekarang kedua-dua KJ dan AAB telah dikaitkan. kedua mereka menafikan menerima apa2 maklumat mengenai kes altantuya. Jikalau najib melawan AAB dalam pemilihan presiden UMNO akan datang, AAB tak boleh nak ugut najib dengan kes altantuya. akhirnya AAB akan ditewaskan najib.
ingat tak najib ada berkata yang dia tak putuskan lagi samada ingin bertanding jawatan presiden beberapa minggu lepas
sekarang, najib akan kempen yang dia difitnah. sama macam anwar dulu, dia cuba dapatkan simpati.
kenapa bala nak buat SD bulan ni? kenapa saiful report isu sodomi bulan ni? kenapa semua ini berlaku sebelum kempen pemilihan UMNO?
lagi satu
see the way che det condem KJ in his latest posting.
Kenny Gan
July 4, 2008
It clear as night and day to me.
1) Who could put him under duress in the first SD? None that I can think of.
2) Who could put him under duress in the second SD?
There’s a powerful person he fingered in the first SD who has control of state institutions.
3) What happened in the second SD?
All references to the powerful person was expunged.
Really, Harris. Do you have to go through all that behavourial observation? I don’t.
Kenny,
Merely trying to encourage an objective assessment based on a scrutiny of material available out there, rather than a knee-jerk, emotional reaction.
Thanks for your thoughts.
backstreetgluttons
July 4, 2008
let us all wait for the 3rd and probably final SD from our dear duressed fella. Sorry to say that you being a lawyer and all that, but here in Malaysia do you need laws and lawyers really ?
to hoodwink all and sundry ? Quite a disgrace to your profession that most lawyers twist the law and say “that is the law”.
$$ is power ! $$ is the law , that is my SD for tonight !
I guess I have much to be thankful for given the numerous constructive comments that get sent in. Thanks, backstreetgluttons, for reminding me to be grateful.
Guess there was a Divine purpose in your coming in to visit today!
tamade
July 4, 2008
Haris, I believe Malik’s analysis carries weight. Bala and his family members lives are in danger. This should be the main factor. But whether he was offered other thing or incentives, only he himself knows it.
I don’t think he is the mole sent by the 800 Mllion Dollar Man.
The only one who gains, of course is KJ. He is now smiling even in his sleep.
Mr Smith
July 4, 2008
Many readers have been unfairly accusing Bala’s lawyer, Mr Sidhu, for not accompanying him to the police station (lion’s den). In the first place, did Bala request him to do so?
Mr Sidhu has explained in his statement that the phone call was from a cop whom Bala knew very well. He had assumed that the caller wanted to congratulate him for the SD and bring him out for dinner.
Which means Bala was tricked into going to the police station where he was cornered by the wolves.
Avtaran
July 4, 2008
The point is why are we not questioning Anwar’s blatant attempts at taking power by practically any means at his disposal? If he has the MPs from BN, just get them to jump ship and get it over and done with. Or must the country be plunged into turmoil?
This whole incident of SDs is purely political and unsubstantiated. Is Anwar actually concerned about Malaysia in doing all this? My take is he just wants power and revenge.
And as for Bala, I think reading the notes of evidence of his testimony would shed some light on what actually transpired in court when he was on the stand. Not speculation nor his 2 SDs’.
A smiling Bala was photographed by the press when he was in court last year, so no allegation of duress can be implied.
Either way, his claims in the first SD are interestingly ‘nothing new’ in the sense that they conform to the general rumour of a commission for the submarine deal and the deceased was Najib’s girl friend.
And what reason is there to believe Bala’s first SD except for the fact that we do not like Najib.
Yes, Bala looked stressed out today. Maybe because he realised something today. We can only speculate. And thus the speculation that he was threatened sounds very believable. Except for one thing. Why would his lawyer ( the first SD lawyer) drop Bala at the police station and not follow him into the station? Sounds suspect, if that is what actually happened. But wait, Bala was just visiting ‘ASP Tonny’. Bala had made explosive allegations and goes to the police station without counsel. Yes!
Speculations cut both ways. We can also speculate that the whole thing is Anwar’s plan to totally embarrass and discredit the government by a SD and a second SD and then say Bala was threatened by authorities with C4. (But note that the ongoing trial has shown that C4 is not such a controlled item as we all thought because after training sessions with C4, police personnel can apparently keep small portions of ‘left over’ C4 because no proper inventory seems to be kept).
And I am tired of reading ‘hearsay allegations’. I want a photograph of a dinner in Paris or wherever that it has been alleged the deceased was with Najib. This stupid game of PKR to release bits of information is getting really old and irritating.
I am no fan of Najib or Anwar. If both their records are seen when in government I think they both performed the same, ie nothing to write home about. But Anwar is more entertaining, that I will grant.
Is replacing one power obsessed government with another a clever move in improving Malaysia? No, not for me.
I fear for the country.
ken
July 4, 2008
Suddenly i feel the sky so dark……
I think those fool politicians think all Malaysian so stupid, I believe no many ppl believe on the 2nd SD. Malaysia police = thieve. shame to be Malaysian.
tzarina
July 4, 2008
Americk Sidhu mentioned today in Mkini that he thought Bala was going for kari kepala ikan in Brickfields with his ASP friend.
But looks like instead, it was kari kepala Bala.
Haris, if you are in touch with Americk Sidhu, please get him to name the ASP.
It is crystal clear to me which SD was done under duress. His messy shirt, his black plastic bag (containing yesterday’s shirt??), his worried expression, his unavailability for comments, the number of journalists present, the lack of video clips of the press statement…
It is all crystal clear indeed…
Anwar and PKR should have learnt a lesson today. When you use someone as a public informant against the most powerful figure in politics, you should not let your informant fend for himself and his family alone against the vultures. THEY do not have an embassy to protect them…
su
July 4, 2008
Say if he were a witness, and say he changed his testimony in a timeframe of less than 24 hours. The first thing to come to mind, I imagine, would be the question of his credibility to remain as a neutral witness. If I were to be the presiding judge, and I were to remain as impartial as I possibly can, I would not be able to judge for myself which of what he said on Day1 or Day2 to be the truth.
So then other than to investigate on the possibility of the witness being pressured before Day1 or Day2, his behaviour would be important to help me make my decision as a judge.
Bala’s retraction of his first SD today created a cloud of doubt over a whole lot of people. Not only about who it was pulling the strings from behind, but also about whether Bala’s word can be trusted anymore.
Personally, I would love to say that Najib bought the man over, or probably threatened him with something, and that this second SD is actually the false one, the one that was truly made under duress.
But it’s not for me to decide whether Najib had a hand in this. The way I see it, there can only be one real SD, and the other made under duress.
His first SD contained too many intricate details to be coined up fictatiously. There was nothing “over the top” either. And his behaviour at the press conference did not appear in anyway to be under any sort of pressure, nor did he look like he was there endorsing the contents of the SD against his will. Compare that with his unwillingness to answer to questions this morning, and there may lie a clue to help come to a conclusion.
su,
Truly judge material, you are!
doggone
July 4, 2008
Hi Haris,
If there was someone in DSAI’s camp who could have coerced such an incriminating Stat Dec out of Bala, what would Bala have done (knowing full well that he was a police officer and his present profession requires some form of contacts with the police force) if not to go directly to the police who definitely offers better protection.
Did Razak Baginda hired him by just picking him out from a Phone Book, or did someone recommended Bala? Hey, we’re not talking about Mdm. Chua hiring a PI to check on the hubby’s amorous activities. We’re talking about highly constipated stuff here involving highly constipated officials.
My take is that they tried too hard to cover-up for Najib to the point of reaffirming guilt.
daniel
July 4, 2008
dear toyolbuster
your line above “…But hell no, his brilliant lawyer just dropped him off at the gate of the police station…”.
think again. why this glaring mistake? or was it really a mistake? mmm….tsk tsk tsk…
that anwar’s lots up his sleeves.
and by the way,where’s our RPK these few days?? his malaysian-today blog is still not accessible???? something cooking??/
D.Zin
July 4, 2008
I don’t know whether it would be of any consolation to anyone of us when we read of the DIGP’s statement that PDRM will investigate both SD. Is he saying this just to stay neutral ?
Francis
July 4, 2008
Look here:
Duress means that he is under threat of losing his life, liberty, that of his family, children and etc. Now let’s examine this:
There are 4 people who are involved. Anwar on one side and Najib, Musa Hasan and G. Patail on the other side. Between these two camps, who has make someone come under duress? The man who runs to embassies seeking shelter or the 3 men (Najib, Hasan & Patail) who control Malaysia’s entire Defence, Security, Intelligence, Criminal and Justice system? You don’t need to be even the most stupid person on earth to know that. Who detained him earlier? Who can detain him? Is it Anwar of the 3? The 3 are fighting for their political lives, wellbeing, largesse, Tunships, children positions (Remember Patail has already made his untrained child a senior person in his office), so they will simply do what they can in order to save themselves.
Furthermore, Bala simply removed the parts that refer to Najib and maintained the rest. That there is and was consistent manipulation of the system is in full glare of Malaysians. (Of course unless you reason like a dog-BigDog for that).
walski69
July 4, 2008
“Duress” has suddenly become my favorite word of the day… (see why here: http://asylum60.blogspot.com/2008/07/duressed-defused-confused.html – last paragraph).
But really… one day it’s a shocking as heck SD, then the very next day ** POOF ** all the incriminating parts about ONE person disappears. All after a visit to the balai… Without his lawyer (the first one, at least, AFAIK) – which in itself is kinda strange. I’d have thought Mr. Sidhu would’ve accompanied him.
This is all too strange… almost contrived and script-written.
Ahmad
July 4, 2008
Since we are talking about two SD, let’s examine certain points.
1. Yesterday, he was all happy and chatted with every journalist, local and foreign.
Today, he refused to talk or take a single question from anyone.
2. Yesterday, his meeting was announced 24 hrs before it was scheduled.
Today’s meeting was in an obscure hotel where few journalists were called in.
3. Yesterday, he was a happy man, very jovial and chattery.
Today, BN newspaper the Star wrote that he “was visibly perturbed”
4. Yesterday, he has informed the people and the journalists who were the people who have jailed him, harassed him, omitted his evidence and maltreated him.
Today, he didn’t say who has forced him. Who has given instructions. Who has mistreated him. He simply refused to talk but run out of the hall visibly disturbed with deep eyes.
5. Yesterday, he didn’t meet the police before he released his SD in front of world media and local as well,
Today (yesterday’s night) he has spent in BrickFields where he was immediately summoned after he has released his SD and was taken to the station by his former lawyer.
6. Yesterday, he has released a comprehensive SD touching on Najib, Musa Safri, Baginda, Police, Prosecution, Witnesses (etc),
Today, he has released the same SD but the parts that referred to Najib removed. All other people were retained. (Ha ha! I wonder who advises these people.)
7. Yesterday, he was a well combed man, with office shirt- and well prepared
Today, he was wearing a dirty T-Shirt with a cap and a was acrrying a plastic bag (black). As his new lawyer talked, he didn’t talk, chat, look up, greet or handshake anyone unlike yesterday.
……..These are simple observations that any intelligent being can pick and realise what’s going on. Furthermore, it is not Bala or Anwar who is in charge of the Defence, Security, Intelligence, Criminal and Justice system of this country but the 3 men accused of conspiracy and evidence manipulation. (Najib, Musa and Patail). You don’t need a child to know who uses force. It is not Anwar who seeks shelter at Embassies fearing for himself but the men who exercise that power over the said institutions.
PS: The Deputy PM doesn’t need Bala to retract any statement which is a perjury now and a criminal act in the penal code. He only needs to file a defamtion suit. Can’t he? If yo are innocent, why trouble yourself with Bala? Just go to the court and said you were defamed and there you go and get your due. When he was asked yesterday, he refused to file a suit, just like he and Rosmah refused to file a defamation suit against Raja Petra. If people are mudslinging you, insulting, incriminating you, and you are innocent, why not seek justice? It is because he knows in courts evidence will be produced and knowing that the Altantuya case has been pre-arranged (we have followed it as a nation), he hopes that by simply denying SDs and refusing to file suits, things will get cooled and he will move on. Heavenly no. Malaysia’s name is at stake. It is not about him, about Anwar or Badawi. It is about this nation and its people.
NB: If he has no confidence in the judiciary of this country by refusing to seek justice at the courts by filing defamation suits against his accusers, who else will trust the regime? The dead? Oh, I’m sorry…we are alive. Thanks to God!
Meng
July 4, 2008
Poor Bala,returning home from the police station, a horrific night, shivering and sweating until the 2nd SD was made.
I do not know how many of you out there have gone through such an ordeal like him. Believe me it is a nightmare to be in one. You are neither here not there,confused and would rather withdraw into a corner. It is a misery.
The 2nd SD would do him some good, a breathing space to recover otherwise he would have all sort of imagination!!
What was told to him, he is aware of the consequences if no retraction is made.
tsudomy and duress
July 4, 2008
make malaysia the 51st state of the USA.
fullstop.
bennyloh
July 4, 2008
Porrah…
REMEMBER, PEOPLE CHANGE WITH THESE…
Charli88
July 4, 2008
Malaysia memang boleh ! So many “ugly” and “evil-hearted” ministers are running this country. How to progress ? Only regress lah. Who the hell they think they are. This country is for the Rakyat, not ketuanan crony. When the helpless Rakyat come together as one, imagine what’s going happen ? Pls get e’ryone come to Kelana Jaya Stadium 9am, 6/7/08. Hear the people speak.
TYKo
July 4, 2008
Hi Haris,
Let me tell you a story that everyone familiar with.
One day, a visitor went to Najib’s house, knock on the door and ask – ‘Hello, is Najib at home?’.
And Najib in the house said ‘No, I am NOT at home’.
I rest my case.
sjchange
July 4, 2008
Yesterday,
wife : Darling, we are going to have a baby!
husband : I love you, dear. I love you so much!
I will call my mom and dad now.
They must be very very happy about this.
Today,
wife : Darling, I am pregnant but the baby is not
yours. You know why? All this because of
you lah!
husband ：???
sjchange
July 4, 2008
continue the earlier,
Kesian mom and dad sajalah!
Selama ini sudah cukup mereka tanggung.
Kenny Gan
July 4, 2008
su Says:
July 4, 2008 at 10:19 pm
“Bala’s retraction of his first SD today created a cloud of doubt over a whole lot of people. Not only about who it was pulling the strings from behind, but also about whether Bala’s word can be trusted anymore.”
On the contrary su, Bala’s retraction of the first SD gave a ring of credibility to it. Before that it was mere hearsay. Then suddenly it has become important enough for someone to suppress it so it must be true!
If the implicated on wants to fight back, the SD could have been denounced as hearsay and Bala’s motives questioned. But to do this makes it worse.
Looks like a badly misconstrued attempt to suppress the truth. Somebody is getting desperate!
ColorsMalaysian
July 4, 2008
Which is wchich ?
It doesn’t matter 1st July or 4th July !
SD = “Statutory Declaration” or “Self Doubt” ?
The evil must go !
Act on fast and sharp !
The justice and power still remain in RAKYAT’s heart.
Unfold it and checkmate !
RAKYAT IS THE POWER
Kenny Gan
July 5, 2008
Harris, who is that mysterious lawyer Arulampalam who accompanied Bala to make the second SD? He sure looks slimey from the malaysiakini photo. Reminds me of Yacob Karim (a renegade lawyer from Klang) who persuaded Munawar to plead guilty in the infamous 1998 Anwar sodomy trial.
Maybe you can do some checking from the Bar registry? I won’t be surprised if he’s closely connected to the establishment.
I like chopin
July 5, 2008
Dear Brother Haris,it doesn’t take much effort to identify which day Bala was under duress.The differences was very stark,even a myopic could see.
Knowing that Bala is heading to the police station and knowing the brutalities of the police,especially when this case is connected to VIPs,PKR or even Anwar himself should offered Bala some form of protection.Hey,I read that someone offered Anwar a bullet proof jacket!Why not he lent it to Bala…just in case…
Here again it shows Anwar’s carelessness.He might reasoned that Bala is going to see his friend ASP Tonny.
But nowadays,even a friend can betrayed you,no?Never trust anyone,but alas,this is a lesson Anwar never learn.
It is a miracle that Bala managed to emerge from the police station without a black eye though very upset and perturbed.
Did anyone spare a thought for his poor wife and three children waiting for his safe return? They must be as traumatised as he is.And did PKR or Anwar think of their safety too?
Sigh……the length some people go to in the name of power…….
ColorsMalaysian
July 5, 2008
Dic ! Toc !
Dic ! Toc !
Flip ! Flop !
Due to this kind of “flip-flop” person whom makes the Altantuya can’t be solved with justice.
This also lead to many more unjustice cases to be happened soon.
He is not only tarnished his family , race more importantly he has betrayed the whole nation !
Be a bit conscience !
Do it right !
Act bravely !
Be part of the nation true builder.
We have a lot more generations to come.
RAKYAT THE POWER OF NATION
donplaypuks
July 5, 2008
BP did not retract the 1st SD by having his palms greased or under duress.
He retracted it by Petroleum Jelly and Durex!!
http:donplaypuks.blogspot.com
pah nur
July 5, 2008
This is worse than a Hindi movie plot, and it doesn’t even thickens, it just keep getting more foul by the day, one huge pot of Kari Basi…
He could be dismissed as an unreliable witness, correct me if I’m wrong. But either or, one word comes to my mind right now regarding where this case is going, and I don’t think expletives are allowed in here.
richy
July 5, 2008
This is the first question I posed to friend who also shared my view which is no different from yours. I think we have a government led by not leaders but rowdies. We don’t have police but gangsters.
What can we do now and how we malaysians counter these unscruplous people.
Najib by admitting of meeting Saiful at his residence three days before the actual police report, confirmed he lied to Malaysians earlier when he said he met Saiful at office and no where else. By this Rosmah too have confirmed lied by stating she never met Saiful.
Perhaps we should advise Anwar to take up the challenge to swear on Quaran. The question is can Najib Swear on Holy Quran. Maybe?
Samuel Goh Kim Eng
July 5, 2008
Who do you really want to believe
When there are so many pretty and ugly leaves
To turn round and around by your leave
Without being able to provide any relief
(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 040708
http://MotivationInMotion.blogpspot.com
Fri. 4th July 2008
robin hood
July 5, 2008
huh? i would be distressed if my balls were wrapped in a kilo of c4 and the trigger is in the hands of dottie the slayer.
Kenny Gan
July 5, 2008
richy Says:
July 5, 2008 at 1:00 am
“Perhaps we should advise Anwar to take up the challenge to swear on Quaran. The question is can Najib Swear on Holy Quran. Maybe?”
richy, it’s no point for these Umno goons and goonettes to swear on the holy book. Their faith is weak, their real God is money and if you want them to, they’ll do it in bad faith. Just ask Rafidah, she did it. Are you convinced she’s clean?
tired
July 5, 2008
The legal firm that lawyer Arulampalam is attached to was identified at Nat’s blog – http://www.jelas.info
ColorsMalaysian
July 5, 2008
Liar ! Liar ! Liar! ………………………….. !
Bala where is your conscience !?
Anwar where is your wisdom !?
Najis (Ooop….! Najib)where is your conscience and justice ?!
Rosmah where is your conscience and insight beauty ?
Badawi ,the sleepy garbage where is your conscience , justice and leadership ?!
and all the BN MP out there ! Don’t you have anymore consciousness !?
If yes, stand out and show it and say something true !
We have many more generations to come, they all depend on the true nation builders
RAKYAT , THE POWER OF NATION
kevyeoh
July 5, 2008
VK Lingam’s issue is not as big as this one….this one is shooting directly the police top dogs and also our DPM….so i think Bala sure kena threaten one way or another and there’s nothing PKR can do to protect him or his family… with all the police intelligence pooled together…how much you can do to hide Bala away? maybe it’s a good thing for Bala to retract as well…but i salute him to at least have the nerve to make the first SD… everyone who is in his sane mind would have worried on his own personal safety…including myself…but at least Bala has the balls to announce it out… the damage has been done… i’m not too bothered about the SD retraction….
kolaar
July 5, 2008
Dear Harris,
Here is something to ponder over what’s rotten up there.
The 2nd SD was authenticated by one Zainal Abidin Muhayat (bearing the address Zul Rafique & Partners). Zul Rafique is the brother of FT Minister Zul Hasnan.
I was reliably informed that yesterday this law firm purchased a copy of the ‘Laporan’ (the Anwar Ibrahim assualt by the former IGP).
There is something fishy going on out there!!!!
http://ctannie.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/updated-655pm-malaysiakini-yoo-hoo-where-are-you-bala/
pakcu
July 5, 2008
Our fren Kenny Gan, like Putera Umno challenged PKR de facto leader Anwar Ibrahim to swear on the Quran rather than resorting to the media with ‘lies’ to prove his innocence.
Saya sangat setuju dengan cadangan ini malah ingin mencabar semua pemimpin Melayu Islam supaya mereka bersumpah dengan Quran bahawa mereka tidak terlibat dengan perbuatan Rasuah dan Maksiat.
H Amri
July 5, 2008
I agree with Kenny when he says to Richy “no point for these Umno goons and goonettes to swear on the Holy Quran”. Furthermore, it has no value whatsoever as proof of innocence or guilt in a court of Islamic law, what more in our secular justice system. Apparently the mufti of Perlis has come up with the suggestion. I’m afraid as far as Islamic law is concerned, the man is an ignoramus. Nor is he an established scholar in any branch of Islamic learning, apart from his semi-scholarly articles in local newspapers.
H Amri
July 5, 2008
I was almost in tears when I saw the picture of Bala at the press conference on the 2nd SD. They must have done something really bad to him to make him change his mind.
justis forever
July 5, 2008
I am just scared for the PI. His life is in grave danger. HE was brave to make the first SD and I admire him. He must have regretted making it after receiving the call from the police, soon after he made the 1st SD. C4 is not a far-fetched possibility in his case. Where is he hiding? Who kidnapped him? The police must be in the know. Has another crime been committed–besides the one forcing him to make the 2nd SD?
John Sterman
July 5, 2008
Two small points:
SD1 had momentum; the clauses flowed one after another; it was written with authority and attention to detail – except for one nigglety point – the strange need to include the anal part. SD2 had no momentum; it was raised with specific purpose – to erase all mention of the VIP. The Bala who was so confident and sure to make 8 specific mentions on the VIP in SD1 is not the same Bala who asked that they be expunged in SD2.
The demeanour of Bala (and other good points mentioned by Francis in rockybru)also changed. In SD1 he was assured; in SD2 he was battened. Yet he said he was under duress in SD1. It doesn’t jive for someone to be under duress in SD1 when his demeanour would show he was under duress in SD2.
Conclusion: he was made to retract all mentions of the VIP, a conclusion also supported by the observations of the first lawyer.
The question remains: why was he made to retract when the investigation has not been completed?
The subsidiary conclusion is that the PDRM is compromised in this case.
Therefore justice will not be done for the deceased.
Can 26 million people live on with that thought?
ylchong
July 5, 2008
to “Ahmad” above, excellent articulation even Hercule Poirot and Sherlock Holmes would be proud of. Can I reproduce your Comment at my Blog? Emel ap: chongyl2000@yahoo.com Blog:)
Your comment starts ” Ahmad Says:
July 4, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Since we are talking about two SD, let’s examine certain points.
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artic turban
July 5, 2008
Latest news, the fish head curry restaurants have lost business, they say their clients have started to shun their restaurants because they are afraid that the sd police snoop squad have their restaurants as hangout and dens of rumours, they also claim that a large number of their waiters have quit work and have all of a sudden been overwhelmed with volunteers who have come to help at these troubling times, mr. manifishhead the spokesman for the brickfield fishhead restaurant operaters chairman, said eventhough our new volounteer staff seem to have uniform haircuts the seem to be very attentive to their clients, hanging around the tables with notepad and pens, willing to take orders in seconds, but alas the seems to be a dearth of clients. According to MR.Justbeer singh a regular curry fish head fanatic who happened to be passing by, he says that it seems that there seems to be a strange side effect to eating too much brickfields curry fish head, amongst the symptoms is the urge to make SD’S the following day, whlist looking unkempt and feeling stressed up, and wanting to call the press to have their pictures taken, a nomber of their fellow patrons have also seem to have disappeared.
Drachen
July 6, 2008
Pierre Trudeau once told his wife that if their son was kidnapped, no ransom would be paid. He knew the price of getting into politics.
Bala obviously underestimated the monster he was dealing with.