‘…The Ketuanan Melayu model has failed… The founders envisaged a government for all Malaysians… The creation of Bangsa Malaysia is the challenge of establishing a united Malaysian nation with a sense of a common and shared destiny.
This must be a nation at peace with itself, territorially and ethnically integrated, living in harmony and full and fair partnership, made up of one Bangsa Malaysia with political loyalty to the nation…How do we bring unity to the people if we are not prepared to respect their dignity? …The obsession with the Ketuanan Melayu dotrine has in fact destroyed something precious in us. It makes us lose our sense of balance and fairness…my parting message is this: The people of goodwill must continue to strive to bring about change, so that we can rebuild the trust of all Malaysians. From that trust, we can rebuild the country where we do not live in fear, but in freedom; that the rights of all Malaysians are acknowledged, respected and protected by the system of law that is just and fair. There is no quest more honourable and a struggle more worthy of sacrifice’ - excerpts from Zaid Ibrahim’s speech at the LawAsia 2008 conference yesterday.
These excerpts do not do justice to his speech, which deserves full reading. The full text, in pdf, is linked below.
On 26th April, last year, I said this of Zaid Ibrahim in a post entitled ‘Zaid vs Nazri – The debate and my thoughts’ :
‘I think you have tried to bring about change in UMNO and BN so that it might begin to dismantle its race-based politics. I think you have tried to restore some semblance of constitutional order to this country. You have failed, not for want of trying, but because the politics of patronage so entrenched in BN cannot be broken simply because of the vested interests of its leadership…if you stood in my constituency in the next election as an independent candidate, you would get my vote. I think you have done enough to rightfully be addressed ‘Yang Berkhidmat” ‘.
Six months later, in another post entitled ‘YB Zaid, you don’t belong in UMNO’, I urged Zaid to :
‘…get out of UMNO, stand as an independent candidate in any constituency in the Klang valley of your choosing in the forthcoming general elections, and this blog will throw its support behind you’
Zaid did not contest in the 12th General Elections. He was dropped from UMNO’s list of candidates.
In April, this year, Pak Lah appointed Zaid senator as well as minister to lead in reforms to, amongst others, the judiciary.
I thought Zaid tried his best, but ran into a huge obstacle.
UMNO.
In September, Zaid resigned from his ministerial position, in protest of the government’s use of the ISA.
Yesterday, during the LawAsia conference, he also clarified that he had resigned his senator’s position.
I just sent the following sms to Zaid :
’2 down, 1 to go. U quit as minister & senator. Now dump UMNO and lead anak Bangsa Malaysia’
su
November 1, 2008
Zaid deserves to be appreciated. And he should know that he is most definitely not appreciated in UMNO.
masakini
November 1, 2008
Yes, even before he was appointed a Minister I had expressed by views that he would be one person who has the credentials to leade UMNO and BN, and provided he was given the way to lead, he would be the most obvious choice.
Well, Zaid, a man who stood by his principles, has displayed an exemplary quality and example as a person who is most suitable person to lead the country in these difficult times.
I was against DSAI when he was in the govt but the moment he was arrested and treated in a very despicable way, I threw my support for him and through the years, I have argued for him with many, in person and through blogs steadfastly but that ends with this PKNS fiasco. From this moment onwards, my group and I will cease support for Pakatan Rakyat and it will know the effect of this in the next election. How political power can change most people is visible from this incident, except for one person, Zaid Ibrahim.
And if Pakatan thinks that this is just talk, let one of them resign in the Klang Valley and if Zaid takes up the offer to stand as an Independent,as Haris says, we will show what it means. Shame on all you PR elected representative. Quite frankly, I have lost interest in your attempt to form the govt, as there is already an indication which way it would go.
koolgeek
November 1, 2008
Yes. I am still waiting for him to quit UMNO.
All means of reform from within is not possible.
Concept of Bangsa Malaysia contradicts the founding principles of Mahathir’s UMNO Baru.
Forcing it to accept Bangsa Malaysia is equivalent to destroying it.
koolgeek
November 1, 2008
If he runs on the ticket of ‘Bangsa Malaysia’, I will support him for the job PM.
Truth Shall Prevail
November 1, 2008
YES RIGHT ON
PLEASE YB ZAID LISTEN TO OUR CHAMPION YB HARIS
THTS THE RIGHT ROAD TO TAKE
PLEASE LEAD US ON WE BELIEVE IN YOU AND KNOW YOU CAN BRING REFORMS AND HELP US ACHIEVE UNITY IN THIS LAND. HELP US HONORABLE ZAID. GOD WILL SURELY BLESS YOU FOR YOUR FIGHT TOGETHER WITH US.
THANK YOU BRO HARIS
Ling
November 1, 2008
I’d rather have a man of principle like Zaid represent me than the combined leadership of MCA and Gerakan. Anyday!
ken
November 1, 2008
Zaid has the right credentials to represent what a true Malaysian leader should be. Intellectually matured, confident, a man of character, a champion for fairness and justice and one who can see through the color of one’s skin. Such men are few. Yet, there is hope that those who holds the same principles come out and be counted. The time has come for us all to make a difference. And as quoted….the sacrifice will be worth its weight in gold.
Paul Warren
November 1, 2008
Zaid has to take a close look at the kind of people he is associating with. He is members alongside a whole lot of them in UMNO so long as he remains an UMNO member.
These people, so far as it would seem, have unanimously nominated to have a dubious character lead them as President. It would seem like by their reckoning Najib comes with all the right credentials to lead them.
If that says something of the content of their characters, the question for Zaid is why it is by continuing to associate with this bunch he lends them his credentials and credibility? I thought, growing up, we were all told to keep well away and not associate with gangsters and such.
farida
November 1, 2008
Hm! Interesting that Zaid, Anwar and Haris are all IBRAHIMS.
Umran
November 1, 2008
Farida, excellent point…never noticed that myself! They must be doing something right in those Ibrahim families! Perhaps if we made our Prime Minister change his name to Abdullah Ibrahim he might actually start to make some worthwhile changes?! I WISH!!!
Reading Zaid Ibrahim’s strong statement really made my day. It gives me hope to know that Malaysia still has principled Malay politicians such as Zaid Ibrahim and Tunku Aziz.
However, when it comes to changing mindsets on the ground, you are Malaysia’s shining star, Haris!
Blushing
storm62
November 1, 2008
farida(chris), Umran..we miss MB Khalid Ibrahim.
i salute Datuk Zaid Ibrahim..a true Malay Malaysian.
malsia1206
November 1, 2008
They say 3 strikes and you are out. I honestly hope it’s not Zaid who shall be on the receiving end for speaking out boldly. Please watch all the mud-slinging from this point. Stay firm and steadfast. You had shown to be one of the finer men in the making. Many others are all rotten in their hearts and minds. Yet they openly champion their religion and so-called supremo Party. Malaysia needs a mental Institute to accomodate these inmates bigger than the dinosaur in Kamunting.
malsia1206
masakini
November 1, 2008
If anyone has inhibitions that Non-Malays are supporting a Chinese lady as the head (albeit temporary) of PKNS, one has to look at the person. Guys like RPK, Zaid and Haris (all Malays) have earned our respect and I, for one, would not even think twice to give my votes to any of them. DSAI’s Ketuanan Rakyat, as against UMNO’s Ketuanan Melayu, measured to a large extent in attracting the votes of Malaysians who believe that our destiny lies in believing and doing as MALAYSIANS. However, I have my reservations now on DSAI and PR.
elloh
November 1, 2008
Too right!! About time men of HONOUR & GOOD WILL come to the fore and lead! And Zaid is ONE!
yh
November 1, 2008
i will join in support.
skywalker
November 1, 2008
Rapper Jay-Z in his bid to support Obama as the presidential candidate has this to say:
“Rosa Parks sat so Martin Luther King could walk, and Martin walked so Obama could run”
The quest for a just & equitable society where the people ‘are not judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character’, is going to be a long and arduous journey. But like Martin Luther Ling, we too have a dream – that one day we will see the creation of a true Bangsa Malaysia.
Yes, just as Haris rightly pointed out, Zaid Ibrahim would get my vote, anytime. I salute this man of principle. And I pray he will have the tenacity and courage of Rosa Parks.
Mag M
November 1, 2008
I wish people like RPK, Zaid and Haris are leaders of our country. I would be very proud of them for they are just and know what is right and what is wrong. I know for sure that if all are leaders are like the three mentioned, our country would go far and our people will be united as Malaysians.
gunnfan
November 1, 2008
Only a matter of time now ‘Ris. Datuk Zaid is a class act.
But get ready for the MSM smears to begin soon. Like we care;)
mariadass anthony
November 1, 2008
Give DSAI and PR the time to take over.It is not easy to take over as there will be some strong and evil ways UMNO and gang especially the botak syed Hamid will ISA them on the very lame excuse when their political position is at stake.If there is no two political party,the rakyat will suffer under the UMNO arrogant etc.ways.If anyone in the PR is not living up, to the rakyat manifesto dont vote him.
wandererAUS
November 1, 2008
Yes, yes, yes Zaid. Dump UMNO. Your link to this evil party, only degrade your dignity and integrity. Your actions to sacrifice personal gains, has earned a high standing in the Malaysian society. Go all the way, you it will not be a lost. You have set a fine example for others to follow.
CPK
November 2, 2008
If anyone hasn’t read Zaid Ibrahim’s book ‘In Good Faith’, I strongly recommend you to. Your regard of him will probably soar even higher.
Yes, I also noticed the ‘Ibrahim connection’
temenggong
November 2, 2008
Ismail Ibrahim too!
Batu Ferringhi
November 2, 2008
Yes, it will be good for Zaid to lead UMNO but I doubt they will ever want him… too much to lose, too much vested interest.
ttc
November 2, 2008
Glad you’re blogging with great gusto again after a brief unexplained mysterious disappearance away somewhere.
Anyways, here’s a potential digression heading your way so please be warned in advance.
Whilst just sitting here sort of twiddling thumbs and cogitating on the supposed goodness content inherent within the Ibrahim name connection, one of those pesky Aha! moments came along suddenly and struck one like a nail on the head!
And it has led to a perplexing question, which is:
Do you or the principled Zaid Ibrahim or maybe the competent Khalid Ibrahim or even the brave LTL Anwar Ibrahim (or his very nice Mrs Wan Azizah Ibrahim) make the yummy Brahim’s Malaysian Masak Merah Sauce which discerning individuals here use to cook tasty tuna?
WE SAY YEAH!
AND HARIS FOR AG & RPK FOR IGP! & LASSIE OR RIN TIN TIN OR SIMBA FOR HOME MINISTER!
PS:
BAN MAD BAD SHA NOW & UMNO TOO INSTEAD OF GOOD HINDRAF!
Protect your Health & Safety & Economic Wealth!
dev
November 2, 2008
Dear all,
I would suggest that we should give PR a chance as it is mostly made of ex BNs so lets see whether they actually mean what they say in their speeches and sermons to us. Men like Zaid are the leaders Malaysia needs to take it to the platue of a modern and developed nation but sadly like Dato Onn b Jaafar, his own people don’t like him. But it is leaders like him that we must continously give our support for there to be any concerted change to take place in Malaysia.
jiranpp
November 2, 2008
Dato` Zaid and YM RPK should form a political party 4 all m`sians 4 the coming GE13 or joint PKR 4 a future m`sia.
muslim
November 2, 2008
ZAID, YOU HAVE PLAYED YOUR PART WELL, TO SHOW THE PATH FOR SOME OTHER GOOD MELAYU LIKE YOU TO FOLLOW SUIT.
LIKE YOU SAY THIS KETUANAAN MELAYU, HAS FAIL THE MELAYU THE LAST 51 YEARS. ORANG MELAYU BANGGUN LAH DARI TIDUR KAMU, JANGAN LAH ASIK JADI PENGEMIS DI- NEGRI SENDIRI.
CUBA LIHAT, BAGAIMANA, RAKYAT ,INDONESAIN ,SINGAPORE MAJU DENGAN SENDIRI-NYA. BANGGUN LAH-ORANG MELAYU BANGGUN.ALLAH TAK BOLEH MENOLONG KAMU,KALAU KAMU TAK MAHU BERUBAH FIKIRAN KAMU. JUBA LIHAT -LAH KEADAAN DI- MALAYSIA, ORANG-ORANG MALAYU SEDANG GERGOLAK SAMA-SENDERI, KERENA PANGKAT,HARTA,KEKAYAAN.LIHAT BANGSA KU -LIHAT.
ylcw
November 2, 2008
My husband is a foreigner. We were having b/fast. He looked up from the morning papers, and said -
“This guy, Zaid Ibrahim, seems to be a good and intelligent person. What he says make sense. He would make a good PRIME MINISTER for Malaysia”!!
More kudos for him … ylcw
klfs
November 2, 2008
To have only one Zaid Ibrahim is just simply not enough unless he holds the post of Prime Minister. Then he can use his power to correct the previous wrong doing one by one and it would take time to do. But the truth now in UMNO is simply “impossible” for someone like Zaid to do reform…The reasons are all have been mentioned before by the bloggers.
masakini
November 2, 2008
Mariadass Anthony and Dev:
Most of us voted for PR and DSAI because we believed that they would not behave like UMNO and BN. What is happening now is that PAS is holding to ransom the effective functioning of the PR governments. Did it not, just immediately after the elections, went its devious ways to co-habit with UMNO, all in the name of Ketuanan Melayu. It is those like Husam Musa and Tok Guru who had given the confidence for a better future, and I salute them, but those aligned with the Ketuanan Melayu are quite overwhelming.
Then there is this guy Zulkifli Nordin who wants the votes of Non-Malays but despises them through his religious rhetorics and, to this day, PKR had not done much about his rhetorics. If he is honest enough, he should resign and stand for a by-election, and then should see how far his rhetorics will carry him. Amusing isn’t it, in one breath he says he will do anything for Islam but the only thing he won’t do is to resign and re-test his popularity.
Am I to infer that, much like how the component parties of BN (MIC, MIC, Gerakan, etc) chanting the mantra of consensus politics but let UMNO reign supreme with divisive and supremacist policies, that now PR happens to have got that rubbed on it also?
You may recall that, riding on PKR and DSAI, PAS had made great inroads during the 1999 elections, even capturing Trengganu and almost capturing Kedah but soon after that became very cocky and started displaying its deceit. For that PKR and DAP paid a very heavy price in the 2004 elections, although there was the Pak Lah’s image factor at that time. The same can be said of PAS when it won on the backdrop of Semangat 46.
All in all, there cannot be and should not be a repeat of the past divisive politics. If PKR and DAP need our support, then PAS needs to be told firmly that it has to abide by pre-election promises, instead of shooting off through unwarranted statements on Ketuanan Melayu and the like. Otherwise, it will be better to part ways and build up gradually a country where most Malaysians can live and respect each other as citizens of this country.
Mind you, we all respect and have accepted the special position of the Malays as spelt out in the Constitution. It is no more an issue.
It may sound somewhat over-stretched but if DSAI does not realise the what is PAS doing to the PR coalition, he will face the wrath of the voters during the next election and for a person who had supported him for so long, I hope he realises this sooner than later. Oh no, this would not mean the votes will go to BN, we will just dump into the dustbin to show our displeasure.
yellowwoman
November 2, 2008
Dear Haris,
I will call you Bapak Anak Bangsa Malaysia because of your relentless championing of getting everyone to accept (and therefore run the country for the betterment of all) that we are all anak-anak bangsa Malaysia.
Your postings never fail to touch my heart. Yes, I totally agree that you, Zaid, and RPK should be the leaders of Anak Bangsa Malaysia. Pls do something about it. I know good people and politics do not mix but I think March 8 has proven that good people can go into politics to affect change faster and more effectively.
I am thinking about ppl like Hannah, Tony Pua, Tian Chua, Nurul Izzah, etc.
How about it?
yellowwoman,
Excuse me whilst I beat my head in to make sure it does not swell!
You have given much to think about. Will do just that.
yellowwoman
November 2, 2008
Dear Bapak Anak-anak Bangsa Malaysia (yes, that’s what I’ll call you, Haris, from now on)
Can you pls sms YB Zaid Ibrahim that I salute him and thinks he is our Malaysian OBAMA. I mean this in the greatest respect and praise, sir!
I see in Obama and Zaid, a man of great intelligence, fairness, audacity to effect change, and one with utmost courage to speak his mind because he speaks the truth for the betterment of America/Malaysia.
malayamuda
November 2, 2008
Khalid Ibrahim, Anwar Ibrahim, Zaid Ibrahim, Haris Ibrahim……..
Najib Razak, Abdul Razak [ Baginda ]
why is Najib so in a hurry to become PM ? Cant he wait till his name is cleared from the Altantuya case before he takes the job ? What if he is found guilty ? He will make Malaysia famous in a minute !
lim geok kuan
November 2, 2008
before and even now, as i said it, this is one, i say it again one man even mca, gerakan or mic can match. I will very much love to support him if he stands for election.
My highest respect for his stand on critical matters. He was and is the same well respected man of his words and belief. My salute to you Datuk Zahid Ibrahim. We really need more people like you to bring this country forward. My the Almighty God Bless you.
firdausj
November 2, 2008
Saya sangat terpesona terhadap sikap dan pola pikir Sdr. Zaid Ibrahim yang sangat progresif dan memberikan pencerahan kepada bangsanya ….. Pola pikir Zaid mengingatkan saya akan pemikiran tokoh pendiri bangsa kami yaitu Tan Malaka dan Sutan Syahrir … Tapi sayang orang-orang seperti beliau masih belum dapat diterima dan dihargai oleh oleh bangsanya sendiri …
Malaysia sebagai sebuah “Nation” sebenarnya masih sangat “rapuh” dan “rentan” serta belum teruji sebagai suatu bangsa, apalagi dibarengi dengan issue ‘Ketuanan Melayu”, Islam dan Non-Islam, rasisme dan praktek-praktek politik yang tidak sehat yang dilakukan oleh UMNO/BN dan juga pihak oposisi …
Bagi kami di Indonesia, Malaysia adalah anak yang hilang akibat perbuatan sang penjajah … maka kembalilah bersatu dengan Indonesia menciptakan suatu negara yang maju, demokratis dan egaliter di kawasan ini …
Oh dear, do we have to endure this as well?
Billy
November 2, 2008
PR should think wisely now. My suggestion is to drop that Zulkifly fella and have him replaced by Zaid as the new MP of Kulim. It is now confirmed that the former is not a team player at all, and at the same time the latter has every credential to be part of PR team which propogates multiracialism, multireligions and respecting the rights of each and every race that make up our country called MALAYSIA.
nspirasi
November 2, 2008
it takes great courage to go against the umno establishment and zaid is doing that…
well done to him…
surely zaid is not the only one in umno with a brain and balls…
why r they then not speaking out and making a stand for a new and fair malaysia?
how do they sleep at night with that heavy conscience? (if they have any!!!)
i despair that so many so called leaders are in politics just to line their own pockets…
thank goodness for the likes of zaid…obviously a man of honour and values…
well done haris for highlighting zaids contributions to the fight…our fight for freedom…
ps. has zaid got a blogspot? im sure there r many who would like to ‘communicate’ with him…to lend their support for the future of our land…
pps. or could u have a sub-blog just for zaid?
mei1
November 2, 2008
“Ibrahim” family, interesting one.:)
Yellowwoman, you said that Zaid is Malaysian OBAMA, well I’d agree with you. In fact, if we could have more people like Zaid, Haris, RPK, Khalid as the nation top leaders or MPs, I think Malaysia will definitely progress from the stagnant state to a better country.
Haris, I agreed with you that Zaid should leave UMNO. Instead of wasting time in hoping to bring reform to the good-for-nothing party, he should leave asap & consider to join PR. Or he can contribute through civil society movement, human rights committee, etc if he has no mean to join any other political party at the moment.
Zaid, if you can read this, please deliberate what Haris suggested. God bless.
Ahmad
November 2, 2008
Knowing that Prophet Ibrahim was the father of inclusivity and all Heavenly religions, there is some inherent “inclusivity” in the name, I guess. May be that’s why we have Anwar Ibrahim, Khalid Ibrahim, Zaid Ibrahim, Haris Ibrahim, Ismail Ibrahim, etc who are insisting on inclusivity rather than meanness and hatred. May Allah sw give us the best of everything.
Lynn
November 2, 2008
Dear Haris
I totally agree with yellowwoman that you should be crowned Bapa Anak-anak Bangsa Malaysia. Like many others, I am beginning to get disillusioned with Anwar Ibrahim. It is as if he has not heard our misgivings about Pakatan Rakyat and especially about Zulkifli Nordin. But I am re-charged with hope in the form of Datuk Zaid Ibrahim. Again, I agree with Yellowwoman that ‘Zaid is a man of great intelligence, fairness, audacity to effect change, and one with utmost courage to speak his mind’; an Obama for Malaysia. We have to be realistic that we need more moderate and liberal Malays to stand up and be counted as the majority population of this country constitutes Malays. First, we have you, Haris and RPK, then we have Tunku Aziz, and now Zaid Ibrahim. I hope I can still include Anwar Ibrahim as a leader of Anak Bangsa Malaysia; can we hope to have people like Musa Hitam, Sharir Samad? Of course among the non-Malays, we have many and especially the younger generation such as Lim Guan Eng, Jeff Ooi, Tony Pua, Hannah Yeoh, M Kulasegaran, Sivarasa, etc, etc…. Are there any towering Anak Bangsa Malaysia leaders amongst my own Sarawakians and Sabahans? Come on people, we need all towering Malaysians to stand forth and be counted to lead us anak-anak Bangsa Malaysia into the future….
Asliman
November 2, 2008
Bumis cannot progress, it they continue supporting leaders who only know how to plunder and loot.
sambal muncha
November 2, 2008
Heheh! Didn’t expect that did you, Haris? (above comment)
Malaysia has never been short of charismatic, intelligent and pragmatic leaders. They’re just not part of the political sphere due to a variety of obvious reasons.
Despite the reservations some have of PR, it sure has increased participation of able leaders’ foray into politics. Got to thank the opposition for that.
Let’s continue to keep the faith, folks.
Zaid, thanks for the breath of fresh air. We appreciate your sacrifice and care for our future. All we need now is support from the MSM and the alternative media. Then we can make this dream a reality.
Umran
November 3, 2008
In response to that ttc said:
I believe the company that manufactures Brahims is owned by Pak Lah’s brother, whose name is none other than…(drum roll please)…Ibrahim!
I kid you not.
And yes, those sauces are pretty good!
masakini
November 3, 2008
sambal muncha;
I hope PR stands for what we voted it for, rather than being gobbled up by partisan politics and people would continue to support so long as it stands by its promises. As far as I can see, Zaid has in actuality no comparison. He is above the cut of politicians, in a special league with those like RPK and Haris. Power and position appears not to have corrupted him and our country needs leaders like him to pull us out of the dungeon of racial and divisive politics.
tigermania
November 3, 2008
Yeah bro…we need someone like Zaid to be the point man of the anak Bangsa Malaysia movement with you at his side. Great idea to consolidate it into a “tangible” force. Regards.
Cheah
Mary Loh
November 3, 2008
A person’s supremacy over others, the respect one can command from others are qualities that cannot be inherited. They need to be earned.
Zaid Ibrahim has earned every once of my respect by being the person he is.
Sheila Pakiam
November 3, 2008
Haris and all Pakatan Rakyat supporters,
We need to keep focussed at all times on the goal to be attained and not get carried away by feelings or side-tracked by the Trial etc. – all the wellknown sham, corruption and rot!
How do we the People legitimately push through ‘The Vote of No Confidence in the present BN-led Government’ and pre-empt the possibility of ever Najib becoming PM.
The good people are there. We have to rally around and really work for the flame of Justice and Truth to burn brightly and Praise be to God! Amen.
sheila
farida
November 3, 2008
Ah, so the Ibrahim of the Badawis is in the inclusive business of manufacturing Brahim products for all.
I heard, and hope this isn’t true, that this Ibrahim was given perks such as exclusive rights on MAS to supply cutlery etc.. If this is true, then certainly he can’t be cut from the same cloth as the other Ibrahims.
Ibrahim is commonly termed ‘Khalil Allah’, or “Friend of God”. Now, isn’t that very interesting?
Asliman
November 3, 2008
Panglima Haris,
How bout initiating a nationwide hartal like the one in 1946?
This will surely bring the UMNO goons and their cronies down.
Let’s hurt their pockets.
- In the mood for hartal.
storm62
November 3, 2008
not forgetting my old cikgu ibrahim, my mentor pak ibrahim, my customer hj ibrahim, my neighbor pakcik ibrahim but most of all bro haris ibrahim for having this blog….syabas to all Ibrahim’s family.
su
November 3, 2008
Found this posting, with some ideas on how we should proceed from here.
http://zveloyak.blogspot.com/2008/11/zaid-ibrahim-vs-shahidan-kassim.html
sambal muncha
November 4, 2008
We’re reading a little too much into last names.
In case all of you’re not aware, in Malaysia boleh, us muslims don’t have (can’t have?) family names?
Apparently my family name is my dad’s name, fat chance of me tracing my roots beyond a few generations.
The Whisperer
November 4, 2008
I am changing my name to Duke Ibrahim soon.
All the Ibrahims are garnering respects now.
Bapak, how about that?
Duke Ibrahim,
Does that mean you are not to be called the Whisperer anymore?
ariffdanial
November 4, 2008
Bro. Harris,
It is the Zaid Ibrahim that formed the Muslim Lawyers Association during Mahathir’s era ? I have been made to understand that during that period his law firm became one of the biggest in the country. Very unique !!! He must be damn good then.
I have also been made to understand, KJ (Kera Jantan) called him personally on the appointment as Minister while he was playing golf in Bangkok. What a connection !!!
It has been made known to me that he was a product of the ITM. I thought he was from Oxford or Cambridge.
Damn lucky fella. Get best of both worlds.
Cheers.
ariffdanial,
And Jesus replied, ‘He who is without sin, ye cast the first stone’. Then Jesus turned to her and said, ‘Go, and sin no more’
ariffdanial
November 5, 2008
Bro. Haris, appreciate your comment.
Just to remind you there are politicians. They change sides like changing their underwear !!!
Regards