Man, he’ll never be able to extricate himself from the web of lies that he’s weaved around himself!
Courtesy of theSun
‘The members of the group sang the Negaraku about three or four times, each time police told them to disperse at the Jalan Timur field and at each place, they regrouped. They were using it to keep us at bay but we had acted within the law’, theSun quotes Selangor top cop Khalid as saying.
And theSun also quotes him as saying that he did not hear the national anthem being sung when his men moved in to disperse the crowd which had violated the law by taking part in an illegal assembly.
Now let’s get this right.
At the Jalan Timur / Amcorp Mall site, Khalid heard us sing the national anthem three or four times, but he did not hear us sing the Negaraku at the Dewan Sivik vigil later.
That about right, Khalid?
Let’s deal with the second assertion first.
Now, Khalid, if you did not hear the Negaraku being sung at the impromptu Dewan Sivik vigil, why did you not react with ‘What anthem? No-one was singing Negaraku?’ when told that vigilers had complained that your men charged into them whilst they were singing Negaraku, rather than “That is what they are claiming”, as reported in Malaysiakini.
Please view the video again and, in particular, note the loudness of the singing in relation to the din caused by the charging cops.
If Khalid truly did not hear the singing, it could be for only one of two reasons.
He wasn’t at the scene.
Or he’s stone deaf.
And if it’s the latter, ought he not to be medically boarded out?
Now to his assertion that the Negaraku was sung three or four times at Jalan Timur / Amcorp Mall.
I got a call that Sunday night, round about 8.15pm from someone who was already at the Amcorp Mall to say that he had heard that the police were going to make arrests that night. I was then at the Lotus restaurant located at the former State cinema. Immediately, Tony Pua, Terrence, one other person and I made out for the Amcorp Mall.
I have just called the individual who called me that night and he confirms that he had been at the Mall for about fifteen minues before he made that call to me. He confirms that during that time, there were about thirty people mulling about and at no time was the Negaraku sung.
The four of us reached Amcorp Mall at about 8.45pm or thereabouts. I did not hear the national anthem being sung.
From the moment I got there until we began to disperse at about 9.40-9.45pm, the national anthem was sung only once, a little after 9.30pm.
Now, it has long been standard operating procedure for the police to video record rallies and vigils and such like.
So Khalid, produce your proof, if you can, that we sang Negaraku three or four times at Jalan Timur / Amcorp Mall.
And of a certainty you cannot, for we only sang the national anthem once there.
Which leads to a further concern.
Is the top cop of Selangor stone deaf, yet hearing things in his head?
Or is he lying, in which case, Zorro, another one for the chamber!
lan w.m
November 11, 2008
sack him Khalid!
Edward Goh
November 11, 2008
Haris,
I am proud to say that I was one of those at the vigil last Sunday. I was walking in front of you and Tony Pua when you were walking towards Amcorp Mall in front of A & W. I noted the seriousness on your face, not knowing the phone call you received.
Khalid is definitely lying. We all only sang National Anthem once after 9.30pm. It was never sung 3 or 4 times as he claimed. We were all warned to disperse earlier on within 5 minutes and we decided to go into Amcorp Mall for some shopping until 9.30pm. After that, we sang the National Anthem and disperse from Amcorp Mall.
The National Anthem was definitely sung at the garden of Civic Centre. The brutality of the police was something that all who were there witnessed and cannot be denied. I was stunned at their actions and couldn’t believe that this is Malaysia. Many photographers of the MSM were there as we saw cameras clicking away from those wearing press tags but they had chosen not to publish the pictures they took. There are still many Malaysians out there who are ignorant of what happened on Sunday night.
It is disgusting and beyond imagination that the top civil servant “saya yang menurut perintah” can tell such a big lie!
Anyway, the truth will prevail. We are behind you and RPK, Tony etc, etc.
Lastly I would like to express our concern and gratitde to all of you who are trying each day to educate the rakyat to think hard and change for their future. Without attending the Sunday’s vigil, we too would be ignorant and now our heart goes to you!
splim
November 11, 2008
I arrived at Amcorp Mall before 8.30pm and people were still mingling at the almost empty car park. No singing. It was only about 10 minutes later the FRU started to walk menacingly towards the crowd, that people retreated to the entrance of Amcorp Mall. After a while I went inside to a bookshop (by then Haris, I’m sure you have already arrived)but didn’t hear any singing until I came out about 5 minutes before we sang ‘NEGARAKU’ and dispersed.
LIAR!
I was standing opposite near the Lotus restaurant (more than 100 meters away) and I could hear the NEGARAKU being sung clearly.
ANOTHER BLATANT LIE
Antares
November 11, 2008
You’re on a roll, bro! It’s really starting to rock around the clock…
Kunta Kinte
November 11, 2008
He and Syed Hamid are a disgrace to mankind. I am speechless. What more can we say?
Ben
November 12, 2008
As Donald Trump would say, “You are fired!” You make my blood boil with your silly excuses. Now if you had just suck it up and admit it like a man or Chua Soi Lek, maybe you will get another chance.
We hope the PR leaders we voted in will make their power felt in this most unnecessary incident. Let this be a lesson they will never forget. Respect your tax payers!
Argus Eye
November 12, 2008
Haris,
I was at Amcorp Mall from 6.45pm. Not a single soul sang Negaraku. A few petrol cars were lined up, and one cop asked me why was i wearing the ‘free rpk’ shirt. i told him i’m here shopping, and he told me to go back immediately once im done. but they slowly moved away before coming in again about 7 plus. I can assure you that from 6.45 right up to the time you arrived at 8 plus, no one sang Negaraku.
Hartal MSM
November 12, 2008
Haris,
A cause of concern is newspapers like theSun printing Khalid’s lies without querying his story & checking his claims,
whereas if we compared with the initial Malaysiakini report, the Web portal referred the video clip which contradicted Khalid’s denial.
theSun — like a typical MSM note-taker — transcribes what the authorities assert without any questioning.
jaredsdad
November 12, 2008
Dear Haris,
It’s pretty obvious, isn’t it? The bloke’s lying through his teeth. But in all honesty, can you blame him? The chain of never-ending lies have been coming not only from the past PM, current PM and PM elect but also from the AG, IGP, etc. If almost all his superiors have been doing this for ages, what more a mere CPO? Logical, no? Time for a change, my friend. High time, I tell you. Before our beloved Malaysia turns into another Zimbabwe!
desperate housewife
November 12, 2008
I just don’t know whether to laugh or to cry … what a bloody liar that Khalid.
Bravo to all the vigilantes !!
shteh
November 12, 2008
Haris,
I was there at Amcorp Mall from 8.30pm and can vouch that no one sang Negaraku 3 to 4 times that night. We only sang ‘Negaraku’ ONCE at around 9.30pm at the entrance of Amcorp Mall before we dispersed. Some went home but others proceeded to the vigil at the Civic Centre.
I wanted to join the Civic Centre vigil but upon arriving at the Lotus restaurant, another group that just arrived from Penang warned me to be careful as the FRU/police may make some arrest that night.
Nevertheless, I went into Lotus and at that time, I can hear the joyous sound of our beloved national anthem ‘Negaraku’ being sung. Suddenly, I noticed some participants running away from the Civic Centre. Several were chased by police and one was apprehended and manhandled in Lotus restaurant.
Now, if I can hear the singing of ‘Negaraku’ in Lotus restaurant loud and clear, I cannot understand how the Selangor CPO did not hear the singing as the FRU/police are assembled much nearer to the Civic Centre. So, like Haris said, he is definitely lying or he is stone deaf. Either way, he is not fit to remain as the Selangor CPO and should resign immediately.
nicolee
November 12, 2008
it’s very elementary. these dumb goons and their bosses are getting dumber. They have been at it for so long it sort of becomes normal “reflex” action for them to do and say things that defy logics and common sense.
orange
November 12, 2008
that guy is plainly a yellow cowardly custard. how is it that we have such weak characters in charge? and to think that these are the very people entrusted with power makes you shudder, does it not? each time one of them suffers an insecurity attack, we end up as collateral damage. it is naive to think that there is any possibility of these shoddy people seeing the light when they are so darkened by their own fears.
foodforthought
November 12, 2008
I was there about 8pm. I sang the anthem 4 times. Once at amcorp mall 3rd floor jamban, once at amcorp mall 2nd floor jamban, once at amcorp mall 2st floor jamban and finally at 9.30pm in front of the main entrance to the mall. khalid, didn’t you hear me?!
casper
November 12, 2008
Hats off to all who withstood the thugs in blue. Scary shit when this Ketua Polis decided to go ballistic(under orders or whimsical decision I wonder) but take heart, plenty of evidence that will all go towards bringing down UMNO.
Banyak dangkal CPO suka-suka buat kacau tapi terima-kasih saya ucapkan atas kebodohan Khalid(sudah Dato’ ke belum – kalo takda, jangan harap malah siap pegi mampus pasal org atas UMNO mesti buang Khalid belah hutan Sarawak buat teman dengan perempuan BPR Perak yg kena tendang awal bulan).
Go Khalid, go play catch and release with that ex-ACA witch of Perak.
WTF
November 12, 2008
Does anybody notice that Khalid’s nose seems to be longer when he appeared on TV yesterday ? I thought I did !
Jeff Gill
November 12, 2008
My first reaction when I read the report in The Sun was ” Oh God,How can this man keep on lying like this?” I called on my kids to read this news and told them exactly what happens to be the topic of your post Haris ,that one lie leads to another and before you know it you’re caught in a web of lies.
I was there that night from 9pm onwards and I can vouch that Negaraku was sang only twice ,once at AmCorp Mall and next at Civic Center.And at no time Negaraku was used as a sheild to protect us from the police.
phillipy
November 12, 2008
tis carleak,he should see a doctor as i gathered he is medically not fit.and also a mathematically failure.
1st. he has ear problem.
2ndly, he can’t count simple figures.1 time and he counted 4 times.how the heck he is up there.even a small boy can count properly,right?
mei1
November 12, 2008
Still remember the incident in Bandar Mahkota Cheras? It seems like a replica of it & it also shows that they’ve never learned from that!!
Paul Warren
November 12, 2008
Before you arrived I heard this Khalid, who was in mufti, say to a lady vigilante that today they will take action. I guess he was not lying there. So he does have a honest bone somewhere. The action they took then obviously was premeditated. Does not matter that the sanctity of the Negaraku being sung by patriots of this nation was being violated by those who had sworn to uphold it.
What I find pitiful and pathetic is that those there on duty for their brawn rather than their brain were made to dress up silly with all that gear just so they can threaten and intimidate a bunch like us, all softies…physically. I wonder if their men with all that muscle and gear would have enough brain to wonder themselves why the need for all that brawn to deal with a bunch of nerds, girls, women and fellas like me.
Shows you how outdated the SOPs used by our men in blue! They all come fully “armed and protected”. Do they need to? Where does that need come from? Their fantasies maybe?
Bigjoe
November 12, 2008
Well, now he is adding his lying with showing his lack of intelligence by asking why they sang Negaraku and associating them with criminal.
Forget that associating Bersih with criminals is wrong, even if a group of criminal stand still and sang Negaraku, the HIGH STANDARD which is part of his job would actually BE to respect it EVEN.
But then again the LOW STANDARD of CP of Selangor is the problem in the first place…
george
November 12, 2008
Khalid is a bloody liar who lies… I was there too… the video show how patriotic the fellow Malaysian to protest the ISA…and sang the NegaraKu… well Khalid…u definitely not fit to be the Police, u r a disgrace to the entire Police force… u r the one who have show all Policemen and Policewomen how poor the leadership and morality of their Police bosses nowaday… How can u use brutal force on weaponless citizens???
Khalid, u r such a liar…ain’t u a muslim??? A muslim should not lies… Guess u r the bad one…u had disgrace ur own religion… God will punish u… not matter how many times u ask for forgiveness…You will pay for all your sin that u had… Your next generation will all be punish… u will see… for your own eyes…
Dear all Fellow Malaysian, be brave and we will support until the victory day… Merdeka dari Master & Servant ideology…
chris chong
November 12, 2008
can the menteri besar selangor asked the polis chief to transfer him to other state. reason: Selangor doesn’t welcome / want a liar as her state polis chief.
can it be done?
Paul Warren
November 12, 2008
This is what The Star carried “Protesters against the ISA were said to have sung NegaraKu at least three times at three different locations on Sunday – at the mall, Petaling Jaya Civic Centre, as well as near the police station”
Now, if there was a Star reporter present, why does he or she not report what he or she witnessed? Alternatively, ALSO report what those present say?
Or is this an occassion or an opportunity for Star to help in the spinning? Presumably The Star gets brownie points for spinning and they are constantly on the look out for opportunities to spin. And here is one!
doinkers
November 12, 2008
Hope you’re seeing this message Haris. As a lawyer, you need to post a “what to do if you’re arrested” guide, before the coming vigil.
Many who were caught were first-time offenders, and many people were unsure of their legal rights & what the police are legally allowed to do.
doinkers,
Will try to put something up by tomorrow
yh
November 12, 2008
if a senior cop is caught lying in a developed country, he will be gone in a flash.
but this is no developed country. its becoming more like Mugabe-land since Al-Blur took over the Home Ministry position. To him, the police is just doing the job by inflicting violence on non-violent citizens. If that is not promoting barbarism, what is Mr Al-Blur?
clearwater
November 12, 2008
Cop Khalid comes across as a little boy caught in a web of lies. Remember our childhood days. To avoid punishment we fib, and one fib leads to another….till we get caned and blurt out the truth. Who is going to cane Khalid? No lack of volunteers, I am sure.
ahoo
November 12, 2008
Can we ask MB Khalid Ibrahim to seek an audience with the Sultan of Selangor immediately and get both the FRU head and this Khalid Abu Bakar to appear before His Highness for an explaination ? Give him a pet talk and let him know that the sanctity of the national anthem cannot be compromised and that the rakyats of Selangor cannot be teated with utter contempt.
Either he bucks up or he will be transfer out as the peace loving people of Selangor do not need such a self serving person to head the state.
Anonymous
November 12, 2008
Anonymous said…
THE POLICE & THEIR BRUTALITY AGAINST PEACEFUL CITIZENS IN A NEW ERA OF UMNO SI BOTAK & NAJIS FIT FOR THE SEWERS ONLY. THE SELECTIVE USE OF ISA SCARED AWAY CAPITAL INVESTMENT TO MALAYSIA IN A CAPITAL FLIGHT AND NEXT THE POLICE BRUTALITY AGAINST PEACEFUL RAKYATS UNDER THE DIRECT GUIDANCE OF UMNO SI BOTAK WILL SCARED AWAY THE TOURISTS VISITING MALAYSIA THAT IS THE NEW ERA OF NAJIS IN HIS IN WAITING ADMINISTRATION.
WHY Razak Baginda, the fall guy, with no further obstacles or hindrances in sight for Najis in his ascending to the Top Power, has now been released??? The real murderers whose identities are obvious but are still at large, with RPK detained under ISA but just released and PI Balasundram exiled overseas there are no other major obstacles and hindrances to Najis’ ascendancy to the pinnacle of his power come March 2009. This is only obvious that UMNO has now the final say in justice with their man Zaki as the Chief Justice. This is the obvious Justice of Malaysia, the laughing stock of the whole world, Malaysia should be boycotted by the world communities for their greatest injustices towards human rights and common normal justices. THIS IS MALAYSIA UMNO’S MALAY SUPREMACY AT ALL COSTS BUT GOING DOWN THE SEWERS WITH NAJIS, THE NEW PRIME MINISTER IN WAITING AFTER THE 51ST YEAR OF INDEPENDENCE.
booboo
November 12, 2008
When the singing took place is second in relevance to the fact that these armed men were itching to attack a crowd of peace-loving civilians including women and children. A threat which they carried out that very evening.
Note that our leaders typically have nothing to say about this attack. They are more interested in where RPK stores his card games on his computer.
Obama was right, the time has come for change.
wickwax
November 12, 2008
Fart chamber it is!
Balan
November 12, 2008
I’m amused by all the contradicting claims here of whether or not people sang Negaraku and how many times.Is that relevant and important? Sounds silly. Testimonials given here shows that not everyone here is telling the truth.
None of these whould have happened if the gathering was held in a dewan and stadium.You can shout your lungs out without any problems.
If PKR can organise mamooth gathering in a stadium with police permit and protection, why can this group do the same.
Why inconvenience the general public by marching aimlessly? You can’t do this in the name of freedom of speech. Look at the root cause!!.
http://balankumarpremakumaran.blogspot.com/
vile-n-frenzy
November 12, 2008
ah, lets speak of police brutality cover up.
i was once a victim myself. when i was a teenager, in legal words, a juvenile, i was taken to the police by a relative of mine. he lodged a complaint about me. but, it was not a police report. somehow, i was taken in by this particular police officer and was smacked right across the chest, where a tender swelling existed till a period of time.
somehow, i was thrown around in the room then. there were 3 police officers. one tall, tanned skin and looks like a typical drug addict and the other was short and fair. both spotted moustache.
and that was during mahafiraun’s era. you see, a teenager could get whacked and smacked in the room…happening…isnt it…acting without a police report.
that goes the same with this idiot. SACK HIM! bring him to justice. I AM TOTALLY AGAINST POLICE BRUTALITY…AND MALAYSIA IS TOTALLY AGAINST POLICE BRUTALITY
sing lau
November 12, 2008
“The reality is, if we tell the truth, we only have to tell the truth once. If you lie, you have to keep lying forever.” –Rabbi Wayne Dosick
And to tell the truth requires one owning up to the evil wrongs that have been committed. And ONLY BIG MAN could do that. Small men always justify their sins.
delcapo
November 12, 2008
they broke the Peace & brought Chaos
They showed Kids & Womenfolks at the scene how standing still during Negaraku no longer holds.
they gave us our own “9-11″ to remember… a mini Sunday Bloody Sunday!
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http://delcapo.wordpress.com/
harunmajid
November 12, 2008
Singing “Negara Ku” and at the same time not having permit
for gathering and expect the police not to take action? what nonsense? singing “Negara Ku” konon! Shameful bunch of idiots. Hypocrites. Cakap Bahasa Melayu tonggang langgang,selalu mempertikaikan hak melayu dan sultan…sekarang dah pandai nyanyi “Negara Ku”, bangsat tak tahu malu punya orang!
doinkers
November 12, 2008
THANKS HARIS for giving me feedback. I feel so good now. Btw, since the police take video cameras of our ceramahs & vigils, we should consider getting our own spies to video record all future events.
We’re lucky that alot of people uploaded the recordings. If we did manage to get recordings of the police actually doing the hitting & beating on our citizens, I would like to see how they’ll blatantly lie to our faces again.
I think this incident has taught us that we were a little too complacent. Because the last few vigils, we had such a feel good feeling, we let our guard down. And unforcunately we paid the price for it.
Alastor Moody (harry potter)… CONSTANT VIGILANCE.
Michelle
November 12, 2008
Haris, totally off topic. My response to Dr M’s suggestion to use the ISA on corrupt UMNO members <HERE.
We’ll keep going with our fight for “NO MORE ISA”, don’t matter if the road is filled to the brim with liars like the one above.
Admiral Tojo
November 12, 2008
This ficking cop is a lying dastard. This is the quality of our Datuks. Shame on him. TREASON for not respecting the National Anthem.
Peace
benj
November 12, 2008
Like my 7 year old plays me when somebody is lying, please check whether his pants is on fire.
Over to you Zorro, please verify whether his pants is on fire when you put him to your crowded chamber.
arif omar
November 12, 2008
JANGAN LIHAT SALAH ORANG LE BROTHER. LIHAT SALAH U SENDIRI. MINTA LE PERMIT KALAU NAK BERHIMPUN. JANGAN FIKIR HAK ASASI U SAHAJA. TENGOK LE JUGA HAK ASASI AWAM. HAK ASASI RAKYAT TERBANYAK. KAU BUAT SALAH NAK SALAHKAN POLIS. KAMI SYUKUR HIDUP AMAN DAMAI. U ORANG SEMUA NI BUKAN SAKIT JIWA. TAPI JIWA SAKIT……….. PIKIR LE SENDIRI.
R Singh
November 12, 2008
Haris, you are wrong. There is a third reason why he may not have understood that it was the National Anthem being sung: He may not have recognised the national anthem.
rajapetrakamarudin
November 12, 2008
cool it lah you guys !
vile-n-frenzy
November 12, 2008
i dont think that idiot knows how to even sing the national anthem in the first place.
and arresting parties while singing the national anthem is a mockery to the institution of the king and rulers.
right now, could he be charged under ISA for that?
it is exactly like obstructing a hamba sembah patik kinda thingy when the hamba is trying to sembah patik dijunjung to the king or sultan.
my 2 cents worth
alice
November 12, 2008
Why would anyone want to sing the Negaraku 3- 4 times??
Police where is your patriotism?? You are a bunch of morons who are programmed and have no real emotions.
I doubt you understand what patriotism is all about. ALL FORMS AND NO SUBSTANCE.
uNIFORM CANGGIH, KERETA BARU, QUARTERS BARU,BANGUNAN POLIS BARU DAN CANGGIH TETAPI MALANGNYA JENAYAH MELAMBUNG NAIK. MALULAH SIKIT – POLIS
Search the Web on Snap.com
November 12, 2008
Anyway I think its not fair of me to bash the whole police force. I have a few good police friends and its not fair . Sorry guys.
ITS THE SYSTEM THATS DISGUSTING AND IT HAS GOT TO GO.IN SHORT THE GOVERNMENT HAS GOT TO GO AND BE REPLACED WITH A NEW WAY OF THINKING.ONLY THAN CAN MEANINGFUL CLEAN UP TAKE PLACE.
matt
November 12, 2008
Sometimes i wonder if pdrm will ever be removed fro it’s shackles placed by politicians.As you know haris, history tell’s us razak started the ball rolling and mahathui made it a personal tool for his self pleasure.Watch what happens when najib comes into play what would it look like-a full circle wouldn’t it.The only forward thru this would be a shackle free and multi racial govt service otherwise i think we are wasting our time.
lucia
November 12, 2008
paul warren brought up the star report which said ““Protesters against the ISA were said to have sung NegaraKu at least three times at three different locations on Sunday – at the mall, Petaling Jaya Civic Centre, as well as near the police station”
that – i have to agree. i was not present at the mall and inside the civic centre, but you guys did said negara ku was sung at the mall once and at the civic centre once – so twice.
i was present at the police station (from 11.00pm to 3.30am) and yes, at one time we sang the negara ku (outside the police station, on the road). that time, there were only about 100 or less of us there.
i guess if the CPO meant 3 or 4 (should cut the 4, it was only 3) times during the entire whole night (8.00pm onwards to early morn), then he was right, but if he meant 3 or 4 times inside the mall or inside the civic centre, then he was wrong.
storm62
November 12, 2008
list of honour for LIARS:
- Mamakthir
- Pak lah
- syed botak hamid
- toyol
- M2M taik
- Rahim nor
- Najis a/l razak
- Khalid abu bakar
Malaysia memang Boleh!
vishie
November 12, 2008
dear haris,
fault finding is so easy especially when you are in power. nonetheless divinity correctly exposed the very nakedness of the recent act by those in authority; leaving them hanging dry for all sundry to see. this is how the dismantling of a corrupt system will take place. it will happen and we will be victorious. supposedly being threathened by candle carrying persons speaks volumes of the calibre of a force that was originally raised for the very purpose of discouraging civil misdemeanour. a ha
C
November 12, 2008
Now that was a stupid idiot who can’t even tell a lie properly. In which events or occasions in the whole world will a national anthem be sung 3 – 4 times ?
The idiots and captain of it Khir Toyo are making nuisance in creating defammation on Ronnie Liu. 1st is Teresa Kok ,2nd is Ronnie Liu , who is next on the list? They must have dig out some deplorable dirts out of Toyo and d vips in Selangor. Since when our police are so efficient. I heard many cases in which police are nowhere to be seen for ages after notifying them. Why aren’t the 30 over motorcyclists gang who create troubles after 12am be caught instead?
viveg
November 12, 2008
Hi Haris, Zorro,
The whole network of BN crooks are working hand in hand to destroy the people’s movement. They are trying to destroy the unity among the races which will in turn destroy the march towards united Malaysia. Just received a very disturbing news. A friend with good contact in Gapena discovered some disconcerting item. It seems Zainal Kling and his cohorts in GAPENA has prepared a memorandum to UMNO-BN government to press for a change in the Malaysian constitution. They wanted the constitution to be changed to state that only a Malay-Muslim can become the Malaysian Prime Minister. This push will undermine the hardwork we all are working in to create Bangsa Malaysia.
On the back of Obama’s victory in the US Presidential election, Badawi said the same thing can happen in Malaysia and any Malaysian citizen can become the PM. Maybe that statement is just a pre-planned que for UMNO to start the ball rolling to press for the change in constitution and display their power.
GAPENA may come out with a statement in a few days. Can we do something to pre-empt this?
anna brella
November 13, 2008
Argus Eye:
The next time an anal retentive from the PRDM invades your privacy to generally walk around in peace in a shopping mall or any other public space and shows off and acts tough by asking you obviously stupid questions like why you are wearing a particular t-shirt or a particular shade of colour or singing a particular song, suggest you tell the idiot politely that it is not only your God-given, but also your democratic and constitutionally guaranteed right to do so.
Or if you cannot stomach such idiocy from people who profess to be “professionals” perhaps you could be suitably rude and maybe ask the PRDM moron to go read the Constitution or go fly a wau somewhere!
“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.
anna brella
November 13, 2008
Here’s something from the OED to aid clarity:
Vigil = noun = a period of staying awake during the time usually spent asleep, especially to keep watch or pray.
Vigilante = noun = a member of a self-appointed group of people who undertake law enforcement in their community without legal authority.
So being a member of a vigil as a “vigiler” is clearly not the same as being a vigilante.
“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.
gobloking
November 13, 2008
Eh People!
What Khalid is saying is this:
Next time anyone wants you to sing Negara Ku better ask them to show you the permit fist
Any time you gather with >5ppl, apply for permit. Then police all very sibuk
Now that our police force is so busy enforcing the Law) DON’T blame them when Crime rates sky rocket
In fact I think our Government should thank all those who participated in the Bersih Gathering as they are SINGLE HANDEDLY responsible for pulling our Economy out of the recession
How??
Mainly through Decreasing Unemployment via the need to increase
- Police Force, Army, FRU
- lawyers to defend, & Judges to hear the cases
- construction workers to build larger prisons, police stations, police quarters etc
- Nasi Bungkus & Teh Tarik stalls (eh! police & construction workers need to eat somewhere lah)
- Home Entertainment Centres (nobody dares go out in groups of >5 without a permit)
So…does the Bersih Group ROCK OR WHAT???
navinda
November 13, 2008
Haris,
Art Harun has a real good write on his blog Navelgazing. WE should forward it to both botak and Khalid the CPO for Selangor. What they did was beyond reason. Now we hear a lot of utter nonsense from both the minister and his deputy. Idiots, that’s what they are.
Robert
November 13, 2008
Haris, I was there with you, the YBs, the vigilists, RPK and Marina all the way from Amcorp Mall to the civic centre, and I can vouch for you on every word you said plus the testimonial comments of the posters here. We, the concerned civil society members were chatting with you and all the others, waiting for instructions, one of which included dispersal after the Negaraku at the Mall.
The other instruction, of a similar nature was at the dataran civic centre after Negaraku.
We would have gone home but before we could finish the anthem, the uncivilised police shouting their warrior cries were on us in no time.
There was no warning from the CPO to disperse. Blatant liar. This fella is not all that you described him – stone deaf, not present, and not knowing the anthem – but he suffers from a condition worse than all these. He suffers from a malignment form of testicular deficiency. Like all govt lapdogs he just carries out orders without using what little intelligence and foresight that he has.
We were there, like the previous other vigil nights, merely to exercise our right under Article 10 of the Constitution of Malaysia which guarantees Malaysian citizens the right to freedom of speech, freedom of assembly and freedom of association.
Helen Ang
November 13, 2008
Haris,
“rajapetrakamarudin Says:
November 12, 2008 at 5:35 pm
cool it lah you guys !”
Ought you have approved the comment if it’s not from the ‘real’ RPK?
Some weeks ago, there was a nasty comment by one Indian name and later the same name clarifying that it wasn’t him that wrote the earlier diatribe. I do understand that moderating is very taxing but pls be vigilant.
As you know, the authorities are now looking for any pretext to regulate bloggers — a development to watch & guard against.
idzan ismail
November 13, 2008
Dear Harith
You sounded like Susan singing the looney tunes. Spewing baloney fit for the loony bin.
There’s a difference between singing NegaraKu for patriotism and singing Negaraku as mockery.
Search your conscience.
It’s like saying Bismillah (in the name of Allah) before robbing someone.
Perbuatan tidak menghalalkan cara.
For want of a better wod to say it.
Argus Eye
November 13, 2008
Robert,
i totally agree with you. I was there too, and my account of the events are consistent with that of yours.
By the way, were the Robert who treated us all lunch at the Shah Alam Club after the judge announced set RPK free last friday?
I didn’t get a chance to thank you back then. So yes, thank you. Till we meet again..
Argus Eye.
Hanuman
November 13, 2008
I know GOD is great.
Selangor top cop Khalid said :
01. “he did not hear the national anthem being sung”
GOD will make him deaf.
02. “members of the group sang the Negaraku about three or
four times”
GOD will make dumb.
I believe in the power of GOD.
Search the Web on Snap.com
November 13, 2008
Just received word I will be given ‘special treatment’ tomorrow when I hold my 3rd Sban vigil.
Now we all know why the crime rate is sky rocketing as the police who are raja in Msia have their hands full trying to cower ordinary tax-paying citizens; when they should be out containing the mat rempits, the bag snatchers, etc
Why would I interest them? I am just an old grandmother who loves leading an active lifestyle with plenty sports and linedancing. However, while leading such a blessed life, I still empathise with the wives and children whose husbands/fathers/sons are being ISAed indefinitely, it is inhumane and a waste of human resource. Charge them in court and if found guilty, jail them. I have no problems with this.
To give the power to ISA another to just ONE man is vesting too much power/responsibilty on a mere mortal whose credentials are not too fragrant either.
Robert
November 13, 2008
Hi feisty lady of Seremban, many wish they your kind of guts. No, its more than that. Its something precious called , yes, calling. This word encompasses all the rare qualities in some of us: mission, vision, idealism, truth, justice and stay-the-course drive.
You have started something that many will follow. Changes dont come fast and furious, instead they occur by baby steps. Reinforce and strengthen your drive with this which I have adopted from someone that recently made impossible into possible: Changes We Need, Yes We Can.
Yes, I would start blogging with this in mind: CHANGES WE NEED, YES WE CAN.
To Argus Eye: a second lunch is waiting for you should you come this way again – and make it soon.
Palaniappan
November 14, 2008
We can’t talk logic to morons and that includes some of your commentators.I think they are UMNOPutras. Let them bark until they are tired.
PC Tan
November 14, 2008
Dear Haris,
I agree with Doinkers about putting up guidelines as regards to our rights and what to do when when arrested. While you are at it, could you also clarify if retired civil servants will lose their rights when arrested or charged, such as medical benefits and pensions.
Can I suggest a kind of cat and mouse game with the police. If they ask us to disperse, we disperse. There’s always another day. Secondly, for this coming vigil, can I suggest we bring food along and have some kind of a picnic. This time we have it in the stadium itself, as we have been promised free use of the stadium by the Selangor govt. through YB Lau.
Paul Warren
November 14, 2008
Actually this Khalid guy has been caught with his pants down.
We all sang the National Anthem at the AMcorp Mall for the first time at about 9.30 before dispersing from there.
Then the next time the National Anthem was sung was at the Civic Centre when the boys in blue, disrespecting the singing of the Anthem charged into the singing group, disrupting the Anthem.
And Khalid said that he did not hear the Anthem being sung when he ordered the charge.
Which means he only heard it once before ordering the charge. How then does he claim that it was sung 3-4 times, which would obviously suggest to some extent the misuse of the National Anthem that he is suggesting may have contributed to the charge?
ganesh
November 14, 2008
Sir,
Can you help Msians to raise voice / highlight this issue to MP.
Case of mat rempit (robbers riding motorcycle) with molesting, curi /rompak, pukul ; why never brought this issue to parliament and request PDRM to have major breakdown and operasi. Include this issue in Pakatan Rakyat first general meeting.
Reference:
http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/14770/84/
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/11/14/nation/2545937&sec=nation
Thank You very much
yh
November 14, 2008
repression is in the airs.
lawyers are hauled up for questioning by cops while defending their clients.
Hindraf is banned though it is not a registered body but a movement in spirit.
violence are being used on vigil attendees.
unnecessary issuance of warrant of arrest of an executive councillor.
The Al-Blur wants to quash any dissent. Is this being done as instructed by the PM in waiting? Mahatirism is backed? Another operation lalang in the pipeline?
Haris, be very very careful and God bless you.