I am presently writing out my own thoughts.
Art Harun has penned his thoughts already. Here’s an excerpt.
“…the Sultan is not imbued with the power to make his own subjective judgment over this fact and matter . For this provision to operate, it must be established as a fact that the MB has ceased to command the confidence of the Assembly. How is that fact established then? In countries practising the Westminster typed democracy, this fact is established with a vote of no confidence on the floor of the Assembly.”
Read the rest of it HERE.
Posted in: Right to know
Observer
February 6, 2009
Sultan Azlan Shah and Raja Nazrin have disappointed all right-thinking Malaysians. They could talk the talk, but when given the opportunity to walk the walk, and within their own state itself, they failed miserable and were not brave enough to do the right thing.
This is a true moment of truth. We Malaysians must depend on ourselves to protect our rights, and not on kings or rajas. Raja Nazrin’s past and future lectures on righteousness and democracy is all hot air. Action speaks louder than words. They have lost all their credibility with the rakyat.
Patriotic1994
February 6, 2009
I am pretty sure Sultan is NOT making this decision with smile on his face. Perhaps he knew his limited power. Perhaps he knows there is little he can do for the people.
But I will have faith with him that he will help the people from different way. And that is, we all must wake up and understand what face us in Malaysia. Vote wisely, send right people to run the country. Otherwise, we have to walk to street to demand our losing rights.
The message Sultan gave us today is: go to street to press for our rights. Fight off the tyrant UMNO. Fight for a better Malaysia!
Sam Sambal
February 6, 2009
I think Patriotic1994 above is putting too much faith in the goodness of the Sultan.
It may come as a shock to you, but Sultans are humans and they have personal interests too.
The Sultan may profess grand things to build up respect etc., but this does not mean he practices it.
A theory goes that our kings may have an interest in preserving the aristocratic-based UMNO leadership, for fear that a strongly people-based movement might dilute their interests and powers.
I think if the Sultan of Perak truly had the interest of the rakyat at heart, he would have called for a dissolution of the state assembly and had fresh elections to see what the people will choose. This is only fair and a path that gives the least resistance from the widest group of people.
barry
February 6, 2009
I don’t understand what is so difficult, even for a fool, to decide that an election be held to determine who actually should govern Perak. Unless, all the talk about carrying out the duties with the interest of the rakyat in mind, was all hot air. Money talks, bullshit walks.
Fudzail
February 6, 2009
Sultan Perak has just C4ed his own convictions
matt
February 6, 2009
Bro the saddest part of it all was that evil(najis) won over the good(NIzar) anyway i believe that there is always the mysterious ways the almighty works to correct things.
shaike
February 6, 2009
This is why i am not in favour of any party hoping…I prefer PR to win Federal elections legitimately.
Let Najis come to power now…by next year we should have elections again…then we’ll show them who is boss!
Truth Shall Prevail
February 6, 2009
I have lost respect for the man for good. When it happened for the first time when he was the king (Mahathirs reign) I was taken aback. Then the JE crisis send a second jolt and finally this. It is beyond doubt the dubious character of this so called learned man. Already at the threshold of death yet so unrepentant and corrupted. How will he endure all the curses that today is directed at him and his family?
k c low
February 6, 2009
Today’s MSM front paged: SACKED. This is disgusting report. The correct word should be: ROBBED. That’s why I have stopped buying all the local newspaper and it saves me quite a substantial amount. I even stopped watching the local news which is RUBBISH. Just wait for the nexdt GE and kick BN out without mercy.
Lynn
February 6, 2009
And we all thought that the Sultan of Perak and Raja Nazrin, together with the Sultan of Selangor and the current Agung are to be our ‘saviours’ from the BN regime! What a rude awakening, at least for me…. The Sultan of Perak should have agreed to the dissolution of the Perak State Assembly and let the people decide. By electing to favour BN without calling for the rakyat’s votes, HRH is setting in essence telling Najib Razak that he can do anything to maintain power including using street gang tactics and accepting tainted ADUNs….. Your Royal Highness, you have done a big setback to democracy in Malaysia and all anak Bangsa Malaysia will remember you for allowing this black day of 205 to happen.
Jong
February 6, 2009
The Sultan had his last word but the Rakyat will have their last say. Bring it on if they dare March, April or May 2009 or GE-13 in 2012, we will bury them, no ifs no buts!
HRH should rise above personal interests and get his priorities right but did he? When he was dragging his feet for more than 24 hours just to give a ‘nod’ on the Advice of MB Nizar for dissolution of Perak State Assembly(his job as required by the Law), I knew what his decision would be; he was waiting for BN(Najib) to approach him!
Anyone with GaM*da shares, sell off before too late!
melayu jawi
February 6, 2009
Justice is partiality towards the TRUTH!
The TRUTH of the matter is that the Dewan Undangan has NOT been sitting to for the members of the Dewan Undangan to put forward of motion of no confidence against the Menteri Besar.
Istana Kinta is NOT the Dewan Undangan Negeri Perak.
The “assembly” of 28 BN members and/or another 4 “independent” members DO NOT CONSTITUTE the sitting of the Dewan Undangan Negeri Perak.
That’s why the Queen of England has to attend Parliament thru’ the House of Lords ..
Therefore, the Sultan has erred and show partiality towards untruths.
Batu Ferringhi
February 6, 2009
It is my opinion that whatever Raja Azlan or Raja Nazrin may say from today onwards, nobody will listen or believe in what they say anymore. They had the chance to show they ‘walk the talk’ but they screwed up big time. Integrity, once you lose it, is forever gone… you cannot get it back.
C
February 6, 2009
Amid my busy schedule , I have to voice out on this filthy win of govern.
For the best interest of the Perakians, the Sultan should let the people speak for themselves and go for the election. Malaysia is afterall a democratic country and fair and just election lead the way.
The undemocratic way played by Najib and his friends are most inferior.
YB Mhd Nizar and his subordinates have done a great job in their months of duties. I think the people will miss them.
The titles,positions and jobs have been pass on to the devils. I guess the people power is still the strongest as they can’t bribe thousands of thousands with millions of money each afterall few hundreds RM will not make a person rich. Lets hope the people power can turn the table around. It’s disappointing the Sultan doesn’t let the people speak for their own interests in this age of democratic systems.
amoker
February 6, 2009
I am irritated on reporters who tried to say that the sultan does not have the choice/ not easy in making this decision. A real leader makes tough but right choices. In this case, the Sultan choose the easy way out for himself, but not for his subjects. We have been praising him and his son when they make those ‘integrity’ speeches, but it is this conduct that people will remember. Their words now sounded hollow.
sitha
February 6, 2009
born and studied in Perak. Till yesterday was very proud with Sultan Perak and Tuan Muda. Proudly told my friends they are one of those highly educated people in the country with far visions.
Now, very very disappointed. They had the chance to prove to the world that the people can always trust the Sultans and they do care for the rakyat.
Sigh….well what we heard about the role and so called power of Sultan in this country turns to be true. Puppet.
I guess, it only sounds nice in school books.
xyz
February 6, 2009
whatever it is the sultan cannot be given excuses. look here people, he is a multimillionaire, ruler of a state with super education and super former job. such a man can be expected to do the right thing in his formal capacity all the time. no excuses. if he does not then we must think deeply.
malsia1206
February 6, 2009
The very obvious clear fact -
“It was never credibly shown the Menteri Besar had ever lost a vote of no-confidence passed by any proper motion from eligible members sitting in session at the State Legislative Assembly at all material times”.
Chew on this glaring fact carefully.
And neither was the Menteri Besar incapacitated, insane or a bankrupt for the Sultan to invoke exercising his power under the prevailing circumstances to deny him his office. Yet the Sultan had came to this conclusion, for reason(s) best known to His Highness, to command the Menteri Besar to surrender his post, failing which it shall be deemed vacant. That is highly presumptious to say the least. Are we not stepping out of the realm of the State Constitution? Barsian had not even shown they had commanded the majority in the Assembly as a matter of a simple fact. Only pure conjecture. There are too many pre-supposed assumptions which are all interpreted to favour the Barsian. This is unjustly wrong by all measures, and definitely unconstitutional to say the least. What crap is this country coming to?
My2cen
February 6, 2009
IF I say I am neutral and not taking sides, then I will return the power to decide to the 3rd party, in this case the rakyat at the polls. Very easy mah, either: 1. Instruct the 3 stooges to vacate and conduct 3 by-elections, or 2. Call for a Snap election sebab semua pun tak boleh dipercayai. This is provided for in the constitution, tak payah scratch my head.
Win-win for all. But that’s because I’m not a hypocrite.
Hoyohoyo
February 6, 2009
If we found Sultan is wrong… We should let the court to tell Sultan that he’s indeed wrong… and set an example to future similar scenario…
Fully supporting YB Karpal Singh’s move to sue the sultan…
elizabeth wong
February 6, 2009
Dare I say the Sultan and Raja Nazrin are fraudsters? They led us round the mulberry bush, with their enlightened outlook, leading us to believe that the rakyat can look to them to do the right thing?
Their scheme would hve been successful, if not for the tricky situation that has arisen … Wat to do, to keep up the facade of uprightness and righteousness, they have to incur the wrath of the mighty C4 weilding brute. 5/2/09 is not just a day when democracy dies, but the Perak royal household’s star with the people has also fallen..
Dear Majesty, Raja Azlan Shah and Raja Nazrin, if you cannot act on what you preached, you shld not have misled us and gave us false hope… the outroar now is ever so severe against you, because you have raised our expectations.. Next time, talk about global warming, healthy living, or other safe subjects where you will not be called to account…
I hvae read abit about the rumours concerning our PM in waiting’s role in the poor Mongolian soul… for the life of me, I could not believe it… The other day, somebody whispered to me, that, shld he ascend to the throne, he will rule us with an iron fist… Now that I witness Mr C4 in action, I shudder at the what is in store for us all .. He is truly a blatant, brutal person, who has no regards for public opinion, law & order, and human lives even…. to him, the ends justifies whatever the means!!! what a shame for us to have such a man as our leader….. Thank you, Tun Mahathir for handpicking just such a man… you hve been too kind…
In opposing the tyranny that is forced upon us, I think we shld use the due process of the law…. explore all angles to show our collective contempt fow what is happening…
ajajal
February 6, 2009
ALLAH IS GREAT let see Najib how far he can go. I bet his time is kicking away very very soon. Somewhere somehow he will be trapped by his own doings None can beat the ALL MIGHTY he can beat us on earth. In spirit he is lost .
Bluekinetic
February 6, 2009
does Sultan Perak has a heart of his citizen? I doubt so. This will be in history and will be remembered by Malaysian. So pitty that Sultan Perak name is tarnished this way.
Katharina Sri (former Noor Aza Othman)
February 6, 2009
This is the reason why Monarchy must be abolished, in a progressive century of achieving true and secular democracy. The monarchy in Malaysia, with 9 Kings who are mainly millionaires, are a travesty of justice and equality in a progressive modern world, and to the poor in Malaysia! And to fair and just-minded Islam.
Katharina Sri (former Noor Aza Othman)
Germany.
ylcw
February 6, 2009
The whole script is too well written. A good leader would take time to think carefully before making an important decision. It was like bang, bang, bang – habis. Sounds too easy and efficient for my intelligence.
conscience
February 6, 2009
HRH a learned man and a previous Lord President, one will think his neutrality will bring a fair decision, to the satisfaction of all parties involved. Sadly, he has only the politicians on his sight and shut off the voices of his rakyat. His performance was disappointing, not even seen to be neutral, without respecting assembly democracy.
His single action has opened the floodgates of dirty politics with no respect for the Federal constitutions. UMNO with the dirty money, will have head start to pursue in this manner to gain power.
God Bless Malaysia but, nothing will save the Sultan of Perak!
telur dua
February 6, 2009
PAS = God fearing good muslims & trustworthy
UMNO = munafiqs & evil personified
Royals are human too. Death overcomes all eventually. They are not immuned. Allah is the Supreme Judge.
Yam
February 6, 2009
Pls stop judging our beloved Sultan. He is a wise man and of course know what He is doing. We must always respect Sultan and Raja no matter what. He is the supreme head of states. Or if you wish to have your IC revoke,then you keep insulting Him,which I dare you to challenge. I would say this situation may drive UMNO to the end in near future if they dont rule Perak well.Now the question is how BN going to distribute EXCO and councilors seat.Will UMNO take 90% of it?How about MIC and Gerakan who lost everything in Perak?A few councilor?Will MIC make noise?Or will Gerakan accept?
Julian
February 6, 2009
Your Highness,
It was a joy to listen to you and your son and even your other Ruler brothers on your vision of a unified country, a fair and a peaceful one for your subjects.
Then, it’s sad to know that when the best opportunity came by, you did everything contrary to what was said.
How then can the people look up to the Royalties? We’d respect you but do you think we still hold you dear in our hearts?
It’s so true that we lived in different worlds, different daily routines, and feel differently. We don’t care if we only have only a meal a day to save up but we’re angry, to say the least, when even our only power i.e. our voice were taken away from us.
I know what the word biadap means but give a thought to what I’ve just said. Come by my world and see for yourself what it’s like.
garfield city
February 6, 2009
I m very sad because I watched my favourite football team play a match but they lost bcoz that goal was scored by the referee. I think I don’t like football again. Cry………………….
mamanview
February 6, 2009
Perak MB should have step down as instructed by HRH Sultan of Perak.
It would the most honorable thing to do. And since when PR have the authority to talk about giving the Rakyat the right to elect, after which there is a defection. Wasn’t that PR leadership who was suggesting defection from BN ADUN and MP to enable them to wrest power last September?
Why now the double standard? I think that this would be a bitter pill to swallow for all of PR supporters.
For the rest, please stop claiming that you are talking on behalf of the Rakyat.. Remember that still majority voted for the current government!!
Please let us be realistic here..
Thanks..
RAJABAT
February 6, 2009
His majesty,the sultan of perak,even as a former well known judge and etc,he is a human being and as a human being he has his own short coming and weakness.
WE CANNOT ASSUME THAT ,JUST BECAUSE HE WAS A FORMER JUDGE,HE IS WELL VERSED AND AN EXPERT IN LAW.
NORMALY PEOPLE WHO ARE WELL VERSED IN LAW LIKE TO PLAY THE LAW TO THEIR OWN ADVANTAGE FOR THE REASON THAT THEY ONLY KNOWS!
WE MUST UNDERSTAND THAT THE PRESENT DAY ROYALTIES ARE NOT LIKE THE ONE 30 YEARS AGO.
NOW THEY HAVE BUSSINESSES EMPIRES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.THIS CONTRACTS AND TENDERS ARE GIVEN BY THE UMNO PEOPLES WHO CONTROLS THE FEDERAL GOVERMENT.
THE SULTANS AND RAJAS ARE NO LONGER BOTHER ABOUT RAKYAT.THEY ONLY BOTHER ABOUT THEIR BUSSINESSES.
THEY,THE SULTANS AND RAJAS WILL ONLY COME TO THE RAKYAT WHEN THEY HAVE CRISIS WITH THE UMNO PEOPLE (CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS).
HIS MAJESTY`S BUSSINES AND FAMILY INTEREST HAD CLOWDED THE INTERPRETATION OF THE STATE CONSTITUTION.
HIS MAJESTY HAD INTERPRETED THE LAW OR STATE CONSTITUTION FOR HIS OWN INTEREST RATHER THAN INTEREST OF THE PERAK PEOPLE.
THE IRONY IS THAT SOMEONE ALL THEWAY FROM FEDERAL LEVEL(NAJIB)HAS TO COME DOWN TO THE STATE OF PERAK TO ADVICE THE SULTAN ON LEGAL MATTERS!
I WOULD LIKE TO QUOTE WHAT HIS MAJESTY HAD SAID A FEW DAYS AGO IN LOCAL NEWS PAPERS-`MISDEEDS WILL SPELL DOWNFALL FOR MONARCHY-MONARCHY COULD BE REDUCED TO A`MUSEUM PIECE`IF IT WAS AFFECTED BY MISDEEDS`.`INTERNAL BICKERING AND THE RULER BEING WRONGLY ADVICED BY NOBLEMEN AND COURT OFFICIALS,WHO HAD VESTED INTEREST TO AMASS WEALTH OR POWER,WERE AMONG THE CAUSAL FACTORS`.
Rakyat Malaysia Cina
February 6, 2009
Asalamualaikum,
Rakyat Perak dan seluruh Malaysia marilah berkabung atas kematian demokrasi
dan berdoalah kuasa kepada rakyat untuk memilih di kembalikan serta merta.
InsyaAllah MB Nizar akan kembali berkuasa.
Ameen.
Shamsul Yunos
February 6, 2009
I believe the Sultan did what was best for the country, he was fully briefed of what the state Government was doing and there must be a good reason for.
Politicians the world over are the same, they are greedy and power hungry, if you guys think that Nga and Ngeh, the real MBs of Perak are any different, go ask around
AM
February 6, 2009
After all the things Raja Nazrin talked about in his public speeches and lectures, I wonder how he can continue to do so with a straight face ..
Raja Chulan
February 6, 2009
Hold your horses my fellow citizen. The BN is already in its last throngs. In my view the BN is finally being handed a piece of rope to hang itself. What seems to us a bitter trial is often a blessing in disguise. Be patient, having waited 51 years what is another 4 years.
Only truth shall free you.
Wassalam
Jude
February 6, 2009
The Sultan’s decision merely demonstrates how low values like honesty, trust, fair play, justice, responsibility, leadership, etc in so called democratic Malaysia has sunk too. The worse part is possibly HRH’s role himself. Believe me, he didn’t do anything to tell Perakians anything they don’t already know. In short, HRH like those jumping jackasses has sold his soul.
peopleisme
February 6, 2009
I am utterly disappointed with the decision. Can’t be right
PeoplePower
February 6, 2009
Perakians,
Tomorrow isteri Rosmah -Najis will be in Ipoh to attend CNY open house organise by MCA(I’m not sure on the exact location. Pls find out).
Everyone are invited! Pls bring along the telur busuk or kasut or whatsoever. Sure you know what’s the purpose for!
fandango
February 6, 2009
If the sultan has any conscience left, he should reverse his earlier decision to sack MB Nizar, go down to the ground to talk to his subjects to assess their opinion, then give his consent to the dissolution of the state assembly to allow for fresh elections. Why is the sultan placing so much weight on the 4 defectors when everyone knows their dubious and evil intentions. The sultan is a big disappointment as he has stooped so low to involve himself in the gutter politics of Najib and UMNO to subvert the rights of his subjects!
chong
February 6, 2009
it’s all a myth that sultan will look after his people. sultan is merely an ordinary person who has greed and looking after his personal interests will always be his priority like any other ordinary person.
khalib
February 6, 2009
HRH should have given the option to establish the fact that the MB has ceased to command the confidence of the Assembly to MB Datuk Seri Ir Nizar bin Jamaludin as Leader of The House by a vote of no confidence during sitting of the Assembly and to give consent to his request to dissolve The House/Assembly wih a view to call for a fresh state election, sort of going back to the Rakyat for their verdict. HRH shouldn’t have consented to UMNOBN request instead of the MBs’ who by all rights is the legitimate representative of the Rakyat of Perak.
arianna
February 6, 2009
Dear Haris,
And just today, Raja Nazrin talked against turning Malaysians court into a kangaroo courts or subject to political influence, to that effect.
Well, let’s see what will happen in court when PR sue his father concerning MB Nisar’s case.
Really sad that of all Malaysian royalties whom the rakyat thought would defend their democratic right, the Sultan of Perak is a big let down.
I think the pak ciks and mak ciks themselves can easily figure out what is morally right (I’m being nice here!).
kensball
February 6, 2009
Of cos the sultan make the wrong decision, the sultan should let the rakyat decide, and we know who is holding his ball
Maizatul Ahmad
February 6, 2009
habis tu anwar nak buat mcm mana tu yang sep 16 tu?
Cat
February 6, 2009
Dear Malaysians,
Do not despair. Good will ultimately triumph over evil. Truth will prevail over deception. We may lose a state now but we will win the country later.
Maybe...
February 6, 2009
Maybe you all should look at this article
http://sjsandteam.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/does-azlan-need-money-for-his-family/
and this article
http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDMS/hsubweb.nsf/1c0706d8c060912d48256c6f0017b41c/48256aaf0027302c482569bb002674f6/$FILE/Gamuda-Circular.pdf
and try to look for subsidiaries.
Still remember the concessionaires that increased the toll from RM1.00 to RM1.60. That’s right
Mr Smith
February 6, 2009
It seems that the events unfolded on a prearranged script. Even before step one, it was already determined that BN would form the government. The subsequent events and interviews with the ‘frogs’ were to arrive at the preset decision.
Then why the total refusal to give an audience to the Pakatan leaders, namely Anwar, Kit and Hadi Awang to say their piece?
Why the refusal to convene the assembly when the speaker requested for it?
Why the refusal to consider the position of the three defectors which is pending the the courts?
Why the refusal to consider the corruption charges facing the two frogs?
Why the refusal to consider the total absence of any Indian reps and a mere two Chinese reps who are unfit for public office?
Why the haste in swearing in the phoney MB when he first one is still in office?
Why cordon off the state secretariat?
Who gave the authority to the State secretary and Police to order out the MB.
Why the haste in asking for the return of the official car keys and the MB to vacate his residence?
The sultan was NOT neutral at all.
Mr Smith
February 6, 2009
Dear Raja Nazrin,
These words (below) were spoken by you just 3 days ago at about the same time the present crisis was unfolding in Perak. May I draw you attention to Quote No 4 below.
Did you say something about the “reality occurring in the state.”
Your people and their duly elected government were pleading, crying and begging for mercy, for justice and for their will to be heard. These were the realities I heard in Perak, did you? Perhaps the fence was too high.
What say you, Sir?
These are your own words:
1.”The Ruler, as the head of state and country, needs to be neutral, non-partisan and free of having personal interest to ensure justice for the people”.
2.“As the head of state at the state level and head of the country at the national level, the Ruler plays a role in upholding stability and justice, and strengthening solidarity and unity.
3.“The presence of the Ruler helps in enhancing the effectiveness of the check and balance mechanism, thus strengthening the institutions of the legislature, executive and judiciary that have been created in the country; lifting the level of public confidence in the system of government and system of nationhood based on democratic practices, and the doctrine of the division of power.”
3. “A Ruler should always ensure that whatever he said and did were not misinterpreted or misunderstood. As such power must be exercised to implement good practices. The Ruler’s nobility and honour, position and sovereignty do not come automatically.”
4. “The height of the throne has never caused my father to ignore the welfare of his subjects; the fence surrounding the palace has never prevented my father from seeing the reality occurring in the state.”
Reference: http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2009/2/4/nation/3191526&sec=nation
sang kancil
February 6, 2009
Dear barry says,
I like your ‘money talks and bullshit walks’. However, I am indeed very very despondent and very sad for the good people of PERAK. I feel very very stronly that a WRONG has been done to the good people of PERAK.
I pray with all my heart and hope that with the good grace of the Almighty Allah the people of PERAK rights restored and JUSTICE prevail.
However, they must stay calm and deal with this with absolute sense of balance as rights and justice are on their side.
markky
February 6, 2009
The sultan seems to be concerned only on the letter to the law but forgot about the spirit of the law.
What is the point of being legally correct but morally wrong.
Law is made to serve man, not man to serve law.
And no king can survive long enough if he goes against his subject.
Al-Sadr
February 6, 2009
When deputy Prime Minister Datok Seri Abdul Razak march in to the kuala kangsar to request the sultan to install the BN Goverment in perak it remind us of the history in which our British colonial master JWW Birch (the first British resident in Perak )who is also the adviser to the sultan of perak then advise the sultan to sign the in famous pangkor treaty back in 1874.
This treaty which established Perak as a British protectorate state.The treaty is significant as it signalled official British involvement in the policies of the Malays back then.
My history teacher has always told me that history will repeat by itself and I guess she was right.
Pegasus
February 6, 2009
Its a shame indeed,that Sultan Azlan Shah had opened the back door for the corrupted BN regime to walk in into his state to rule…These are corrupted leaders with tainted character from Najib down to some of the assemblyman. The work has actually just begun..Perak is not moving anywhere,lets vote PR back in the 13th GE and kick out the BN regime for good!!!
Jacksojulian
February 7, 2009
Dear Haris,
I am truly sad and angrily beyond words. What i can do is looking forward for the next General Election that would bury BN. Kindly create a countdown column of next GE on your website so that people like me would feel better after looking at it. Please ask your fellow bloggers like RPK, Zorro and etc to do so.
Cheers
Jacksojulian
February 7, 2009
Commented by Fudzail
“Sultan Perak has just C4ed his own convictions”
As a Perakian, i feel like i was C4ed by our Sultan
ruzaimi ramza
February 7, 2009
sultan azlan shah was the lord president, he’s more than capable of making the best decision, he knows law better than 99.9% of all bloggers and commenters. I would rather take his say rather than any of u guys here.
Rasupal
February 7, 2009
My question to you Harris,
The sultan of Perak is no ordinary man. He is an ex-Lord President who has been the envy of many, a respected Judge in the commonwealth countries and a sultan who has just celebrated his 25th anniversary. He has a genius prince who is a PHD holder, who could be referred for views and advice and who is a renown public speaker and think-tank in Malaysia.
Having this much of advantage and knowledge can anyone possibly think the sultan could have mistaken in his decision? The fact is, here I am an ordinary with other ordinary fellow citizens to some extent think wisely (I suppose) on the could-be repercussions and solutions. If we the ordinary think this carefully would anyone believe the sultan failed in his decision?
Let me say this (I’m sorry if I sound bias to his HRH) I think the sultan for some reasons favoured BN instead of PR. And in doing that he deprived the interest of his subjects and has disappointed them. How he is going to be remembered, well I think for all the wrong reasons!
oA
February 7, 2009
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with due respect, the sultan is a disappointment. he has forgotten that when come to important issues concerning national interests one has to play by the rules for the benefit of the people and country not to mention that such interests are protected and regulated by the rules of law.
he has brought much shame and disrepute to his own sultanate.
however, truth must be told when all else failed as the people should know and need to know inorder to put in position their(public) own interest in this case in order to overcome such abuses by the power be.
a wrong is a wrong and it needs to be set right else another 50 years down the drain.
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Chauncey Gardener
February 7, 2009
The Sultan may have been right to be the one to determine the majority but he would have been undeniably most correct if he had dissolved the Perak DUN and allowed new elections.
Agree with Sam Sambal that this would have been fair and provides a path of least resistance to the widest group of people.
TJ
February 7, 2009
Haris,
We have all been fools. This is a wake up call. We are placing too much hope on the sultanates and the monarch. Perfectly understandable given that many of us are despairing over the rubbish that is BN.
Time to peel away the naievete that the monarch will swoop in in time like a knight in white armour saving Malaysian damsels in distress.
They are born with silver spoons in their mouths. All their lives they are cocooned from the toil and sweat and tears that most ordinary Malaysians go through.
What do they know about eking out a living in times of escalating costs and diminishing purchasing power of RM? Do we seriously think that the monarch knows what’s really going on on the grounds?
Seriously folks, perhaps we have imbued them with too much of our desperate hopes.
Terribly disappointing but let’s get on with life.
I am looking forward to the day when Malaysia will be a republic. A monarchy has no use in modern lives. This sordid chapter in Perak proves this point.
panca
February 7, 2009
As far as the Rakyat, Pakatan Rakyat was and still is the the legitimate government of Perak.
The thief of course is the najis government of the state now called Berak. Berak Najis! Bogus MB Zombie!
Observer
February 7, 2009
Haris, I’m surprised at you for not publishing my comment on your blog post on Markus Ng. I think the world should know how two individuals born in the same year, were good friends and classmates, and went to the same school, turn out to be; one is the admirable and noble Markus Ng, the other the despicable Saiful Bukhari.
ttc
February 7, 2009
Haris, howdee
Hope the pesky rhinitis is keeping far, far away from you btw what with all the hectic politicking comings and goings on.
Hmm. Something curiously strange befell one today you see. While relaxingly sitting here mulling over some now new-brand brew with
goodfellow Tom and his teacup, this strange thought suddenly came out of the blue yonder from who knows where and 
struck Tom and I very hard on the head like two of strong Thor’s thunderbolts!
Hmm. You know how that Brahim’s sauce-making Pak Lah-one ole’ sleepy head is into cooking courses and also rocking the stateship with his statesmanship rudder set to go off strangely in all directionless directions towards all sorts of rocky places with that good Tok Guru on board acting as navigator for him?
So, do you wise Haris, also suppose for just one minute at least, that it may quite well be very probable on that balance of probabilities justice scale, that a certain wise silver-haired mentor in a silvered stateship could also very well have become exposed to that very same contagious contagion that has now caused Pak Lah-one ole’ sleepy head to strangely fall under the even stranger spell of that mysterious affliction of rudderless statesmanship?
Hmm, anyways,
nice tasty new flavoursome tea leaves these, so anything can be possible you see, even 
strange, swirling storms in one’s teacups!
WE SAY YEAH! AND NO TO ISA!
AND HARIS FOR AG & RPK FOR IGP! GO FOR DSAI FOR PM & LKS FOR DPM & KIND WAN AZIZAH FOR HOME MINISTER.
2009 Resolution: Seek out all garbage and recycle or dispose post haste for a healthier life and planet!
nspirasi
February 7, 2009
mmm…has BN got the same ‘mud’ on the Sultan as they have on the PKR defectors…to ensure they all sang and danced to the same BN tune?
surely the great sultan of perak hasnt been bribed with dollars by the dpm!!!!
why then has he turned his back on his own people?
cowardice?
cari makan?
im baffled!!!
Drachen
February 7, 2009
I think you should get your lawyers friends to draft a set of anti-hopping laws. Start with that.
flyer168
February 7, 2009
Dear Haris,
Nice article on the subject matter.
Sad to see this great nation Malaysia administered by the British Tuans, then handed over to the Malaysian TUANS under Bapa Malaysia Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra & his Malaysian cabinet of TRUE TUANS managing the system of Wesminster style Democracy & with the Rule of Law in 1957, getting “Hijacked & Betrayed” by the “Elite UMNO Ketetuanan BEGGARS” in 1969.
For 40 years, instead if teaching their own kind to “Learn to catch their own FISH”, they took the easy way out to maintain their “False” sense of Security & Power by using the “Ketetuanan (BEGGAR)” policy – you vote UMNO, we give you “Fish” & the rot set in to what it is today & the beat goes on….!
For the others, “Either you are with us…..or else….you will be “MIA or Eliminated”, period !
I had the honour of meeting & sharing a discussion with the late Tun Tan Siew Sin & Tun Hussein Onn prior to their passing & their words & statements still ring clear in my ears….”There is no more Honour left amongst our new leaders unlike during our time with Tunku!”
To be a Public figure, one must be established, sincere, honest, credible, transparent & above board – should be opened to scrutinization like in the US.
Many of our Leaders today have “skeletons” of their past in their closets (some have their family’s baggages as well!), so how can they be “Honourable” to carry out their duties diligently without “Fear or favour”, even after taking an “oath” to the King/Sultan/the nation & rayaat. Ultimately they “Buckle” under pressure.
The Desperate PM wannabe & his Goons must have used pressure on DYMM with the issue of “rightful” Royal “Succession”, business deals, etc to get his wish this time!
How “Desperate” & “Pathetic” can our PM wannabe get to be, to pursue this “FUTILE” Perak “Hung Exco” when the logical would be to “dissolve” the assembly.
We are witnessing the Desperate “Gutter Politics & Law of the Jungle” vs the Perak Mentri Besar Mohd Nizar Jamaluddin’s courage, integrity and mental clarity in the face of grave adversity.
This Desperate PM wannabe has “lost the Plot” completely & “blown” his last “Trump card” to be the incoming UMNO President.
The son of our 2nd PM has now “Destroyed” his own party UMNO beyond “Redemption”
So he might as well forget about being the 6th PM of Malaysia…
Maybe we should send him out as our Ambassador to Mongolia !!!
imwatchinu
February 7, 2009
Agree with Sam Sambal. At the end of the day, it’s all about self preservation. Royal families are all involved with businesses and have to live on the charity of the government of the day. Some manage their wealth well while some blow it away. We all know how cunning and unprincipled Najib is. Even murder is not out of his radar. To hell with us peasants as far as royalty is concerned. Since when did a royal household takes the interest of the people first before self? Figure it for yourself.
imwatchinu
February 7, 2009
Another thing. Are some of us still thinking that the power of royalty should be enhanced? This is a classic case of how things could go awry if power is rested on one person. It’s the law we should be looking at.
Wiseman
February 7, 2009
Well this episode taught us one main lesson.Never ,never depend on those Royals and our mistake was to look to them for guidance.Do matured Perakians really that stupid to need them ?It’s the people who is in awe at this hollow royals and make them high on their pedestal.Personally i could ,nt care a dammed when they give advises.
If not of our good wise TDM ,the people would most be properly living in a feudal system.The King can do no wrong crap will prevail but fortunately thank God the Almighty its powers has been clipped.
Sad day when the so called learned Sultan failed miserably in a decision expected from his people.
The gist of the peoples displeasure is the way he bulldosed the approval and swearing of those lackey BN sycopants.Instant sacking of the MB , siding the 4 scums knowing very well they are tainted.
Did he expected the Perakians to be fools and waltzed with him.They wanted him to use his so called wisdom.
Today this will be history but the perakians are not likely to forget .Meanwhile when the royal bees have their say and advise learn the fine art to snub them politely.
AnwarBigJoker
February 7, 2009
All of you should go back and study the Constituency before saying anything, dumb!
marcus63
February 7, 2009
Dear Haris,
IMO the answer is no…and yes.
no because malaysia is a constitutional monarcy, which means the constitution comes before the monarchy. the wise sultan should exhaust all avenues as enshrined in the constitution before making his final say. Tuanku was once lord president, which today equates chief justice, and his highness had sworn an oath to uphold the constitution. Tuanku should not have so HASTE, as correctly pointed out by Tengku Razaleigh to override the constitution, and now bear the burden of his highness’ decision. of course it pains his highness to see his loyal subjects take to the streets but…
Yes because the deed is sealed. It was a brilliant strategy on DS Najib to shoot the chicken before bargaining for its price. By all accounts, DS presented a very compelling case to hoodwink his highness. dont forget even monarchs are human and they do err. a decision has been made. no right minded judge in the land will rule against this sultan who had such a high standing in the judicial community. PR has lost this battle, but not necessarily the war.
PR should attack BN’s weakness. BN is scared shit of elections. But PR will never get the DUN dissolved. however, they can engineer an election at the Parliament level and must do it in perak. this will give a clear signal as to who has the perakians’ mandate. it would be also good if PKR offer their seat to PAS as a good gesture as it was PKR that screwed up with defections and PAS was hurt the most. this will go a long way to strengthen the pakatan.
Red
February 7, 2009
Haris,
Remember the appeals by petition to the royalty you launched over a series of issues last year and the year before? RPK did the same. In those petitions there was the inference that all the institutions available for the redress of public grievances had been stumped and could no longer be trusted in their respective roles. (Think of the police, the judiciary, and elections commission.) This is also to say that, by petitioning, the royal court was the last and perhaps only available recourse left – it could be trusted to side with the people.
Now, after Perak, you can conclusively see on whose side – self-serving politicians or the people – is the royalty. It is conclusive because the issue went before a sultan who was once Lord President who knows the law and who, through various communications, have indicated he would side with the people. The sultan’s decision is now proof you were not just wrong to deepen people’s trust on the royalty, but you were also naive in that kind of thinking. And, so too, RPK.
Note, meanwhile, that another institution – the Perak State Secretariat in the person of the State Secretary – had joined forces with the police to remove a legitimate government.
Here’s the point, as well as the lesson to you and all the others who went along with the petitions: problems beget by politics must end by politics.
Peter
February 7, 2009
All I can say I am deeply disappointed by the Sultan’s decision.
BTW – may I draw your attention to this Kang Benny
For Benny, the choice was clear. He drafted one of his friends – a fellow activist to stand as an independent candidate in Bandung’s Mayoral contest and sought to gain the 50,000 signatures necessary to run. This was another disappointment: his network only managed to secure 20,000- a sign that the movement was less influential and effective than he’d thought:
Gan
February 7, 2009
I think the Sultan of Perak’s decision just shattered our hope and faith in counting on the royalty to do by what’s right for the rakyat !
To think that highly educated, qualified, thinking people such as the Perak royalty can come to such a decision – what else can the rakyat hope for from the other royal households?
Paul Warren
February 7, 2009
This is what I posted in Art’s blog:
Thank you sir for this most instructive clarification.
Now this irritating discomfort that I have been having about the HRH Sultan Azlan Shah’s actions has been put to rest.
For a lot of us lay people, we can only feel the injustice as well as the error of the decision and actions of the Sultan without a clue as to how we might put these feelings to rest. Your explanations here are like the anti-dote for the poison that was working inside.
Once again, thank you sir!!
Fact is, UMNO likes a leashed Royalty inside their own pen. Post March 8 the Royalty found an escape from UMNO’s leashand pen. But it would seem like with this decision, they might have gone back into UMNO’s pen, willing to be leashed once again.
When I ask the question, why would a caged animal always wanting to be free want to go back to its cage, the answer becomes just too obvious soon enough.
tmf
February 7, 2009
A retired British politician confessed during an interview, on the tactic they used in frustrating the true meaning of democracy:-
“If we were to allow the people to actually have faith in democracy, then we would be ended up being their servants, working day and night, attending to all sorts of requests or needs; or addressing all sorts of issues or problems faced by the electorate.
No, we don’t want that; all we really want is power to control, power to maneuver. Honestly, it’s all about having good lives and excitement for ourselves.
How we go about achieving this was rather simple. First, we used propaganda to confuse them (the electorate), then we used all sorts of government apparatus, such as police force and other enforcement agencies to strike fear into them, and finally we demoralized them by all means during any election to ensure that they lose faith in the democratic process and do not bother to vote. So, eventually, we got elected or gained power with the silent majority watching helplessly.”
From the 5th till 6th of Feb, by taking over power in Perak from PR in the most grotesque way ever, BN/UMNO had succeeded in demoralizing me and my whole family on the democratic process in this country.
PISSED
February 7, 2009
For the latest on ‘The Prostitute of Jelapang’ click below:
http://thedandelions.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/the-prostitute-of-jelapang/
Anyway this Slumbitch Millionaire is laughing all the way to the bank now.
2sen
February 7, 2009
A sultan is only a sultan as long as he has subjects to rule, subjects who have the highest respect and regards for the Sultan as he cares for them and look after their interest and welfare. The moment he turns back on them, doesn’t give a shit over their wishes and electoral rights, he loses that precious respect and is only a Sultan in name but not in substance.
Peter Sng
February 7, 2009
Art Harun, Malik Imtiaz & Param Cumaraswamy has all concur that HRH has err in this most important rule of Law.
With his most EMINENT & IMPECCABLE Reputation, this highly respected former Lord President has tarnish his name in history. The Perakians are certainly Shock beyong Disbelief by his ACTION! What more to say? If it is a lesser mortal than the Perakians might not be surprise but HRH? Wow!
In this desperate worldwide Financial Turmoil, HRH should have try his level-best to unit his subjects together with the Enlighten leadership of Dato Nizar to save jobs, businesses, etc. But by this ruling, instead it create Political Uncertainty & Unhappiness amongst the Rakyat in the days,weeks, months, years ahead until GE13.
God Bless those whose uphold Fair Play.
Paul Warren
February 7, 2009
I have also commented this in Art Harun’s blog. Haris, maybe you can also address this little confusion:
Dear Art,
Kim Quek has extracted the following from both the Federal as well as the State constitutions respectively: (http://thedandelions.wordpress.com/2009/02/06/urgent-appeal-perak-constitution-crisis-from-misinterpretation-of-words/)
Federal constitution: Article 43 (4): If the Prime Minister ceases to command the confidence of the majority of the members of the House of Representatives, then, unless at his request the Yang di-Pertuan Agong dissolves Parliament, the Prime Minister shall tender the resignation of the Cabinet.
Perak state constitution: Artikel XVI(6): If the Mentri Besar ceases to command the confidence of the majority of the Legislative Assembly, then unless at his request His Royal Highness dissolves the Legislative Assembly, he shall tender the resignation of the Executive Council.
He argues that the Sultan would have been correct if it were the Prime Minister in determining if he had lost the confidence of the majority of the members of the House of Representatives.
Whereas, in the State’s constitution, it refers to the Majority of the Legislative Assembly.
You on the other hand, having checked with Imtiaz confirm that the legislation refers to “members of the Assembly”, but you fail to mention which legislation. State or Federal that you are quoting?
Following Kim Quek’s argument, if you are right in taking “members of the Legislative Assembly”, then the Sultan may have adequately satisfied himself that the Menteri Besar did not have the confidence of the majority of the members of the assembly as he could determine this by himself by interviewing each one of them.
On the other hand if Kim Quek’s version is right, then obviously without the Legislative Assembly coming together there cannot have been a determination of whether the Menteri Besar did not have the confidence of the Assembly.
Hope you can clarify this.
Joric
February 7, 2009
Hi Haris,
Is it time for a mini hartal? Strike it small when the fire is hot!
Yvonne Young
February 7, 2009
Najib’s popularity is already on a downward spiral. Now with this “coup” and his smirk in the news, he has descended lower. The people of Malaysia can see for themselves what sort of leader he will be.
Let the people decide before the people take alternative measures into their own hands. The measures may not be pleasant.
dummypod
February 7, 2009
Dear Sam Sambal,
We have to bear in mind that there are many possibilities in this incident. The King may be forced, threatened, or even bribed. Like you said, he is still human, and as such he do have his fears. The UMNO always have been doing the evil deeds and yet when it is obviously obvious they can still get away with it.
magickman
February 7, 2009
Very simple: if Azlan Shah had done the popular thing & allowed MB Nizar to dissolve the state assembly, there would have been fresh elections which would certainly result in Umno losing even more clout in Perak. Indeed, it may even be completely wiped out after Najib’s ugly & ludicrous display of infantile back-alley politics.
What’s wrong with that scenario? Again, very simple: a stronger Pakatan govt in Perak would spell the complete ouster of Umno/BN from power in very quick order. The rakyat would celebrate such a victory – but would the monarchs & all the corporate Umnoputras who have fattened themselves over the decades on elitist crony capitalism?
If the sultans were as keen on participatory democracy as most of us are, they would have intervened soon after Syed Hamid Albar ordered the ISA detention of RPK & granted Anwar his audience with the Agong.
However, everything in good time. One thing nobody wishes to see is martial law being declared. Maan maan lai continues to be the operative strategy.
senkoh
February 7, 2009
Yang Amat Mulia Raja Eleena binti Sultan Azlan Shah is a daughter of the current Sultan of Perak, Sultan Azlan Shah.
Upon returning to Malaysia, she joined Messrs Skrine & Co and was called to the Malaysian Bar in 1986. She set-up her own legal practice Messrs Raja Eleena, Siew Ang & Associates in 1987 of which she is presently a senior partner.
Y A M Raja Dato’ Seri Eleena Azlan Shah was appointed to the Board of Gamuda on 1 June 1992.
She is the niece of Y Bhg Dato’ Ir Kamarul Zaman bin Mohd Ali. She is a Director and major shareholder of Generasi Setia (M) Sdn Bhd, which is a major shareholder of Gamuda.
Her directorships in other public companies are with KAF-Seagroatt & Campbell Holdings Berhad and Danau Permai Resort Berhad.
Raja Datuk Seri Eleena Raja Azlan Shah was named in May 2007 as Malaysia’s 25th richest in the country with assets worth over US$228 million (MYR 773 million). She becomes the list’s second woman after Puan Sri Chong Chook Yew who occupies number 18th with US$320 million (MYR 1.085 billion).
no such thing as ABM
February 7, 2009
Javanese (Malay) values are not compatible with Islamic values. The informed and educated know this well. So does PAS, though they will not admit it openly.
Related info:
http://margeemar.blogspot.com/2009/02/nizar-derhaka-atau-sultan-yang-abaikan.html
http://scottthong.wordpress.com/2008/09/08/michael-chick-who-are-the-malays-and-how-to-unite-them/
Maybe Indonesia should invade the fake country called Malaysia, throw out the government and corrupted system including the monarchy, and call it the straits settlements of various races and religions from all over the world, especially Asia.
We would be more developed, diverse, strong and cosmo compared to Australia if the British had done a HK on us.
The current system, rules, constitution and rukun negara were just put in place by UMNO to prolong their (fake and manipulative concept of) Malay Elite dominance, which is in actuality only for UMNOputra dominance; and to allow their divide and conquer tactics and methods to fester and disunite.
Ketuanan UMNO boleh! People deserve the government they get! Time for the people to rise and rebel!
Sam Sambal
February 7, 2009
ALERT. ALERT.
Rocky’s Bru has fired his first, major ‘spin’ missile at Ketuanan Rakyat.
See here: “Ketuanan Pakatan Rakyat”
Nanda
February 7, 2009
mamanview Says:
February 6, 2009 at 7:42 pm
Perak MB should have step down as instructed by HRH Sultan of Perak.
It would the most honorable thing to do. And since when PR have the authority to talk about giving the Rakyat the right to elect, after which there is a defection. Wasn’t that PR leadership who was suggesting defection from BN ADUN and MP to enable them to wrest power last September?
Why now the double standard? I think that this would be a bitter pill to swallow for all of PR supporters.
For the rest, please stop claiming that you are talking on behalf of the Rakyat.. Remember that still majority voted for the current government!!
Please let us be realistic here..
Thanks..
Nanda says:
While I still subscribe to the view that Haris put forth in regards to crossovers, that the electorate should have the say and the MPs who would like to hop should go get the blessing of the electorate, I’d like to point out (based on my understanding, in other words, I may be wrong) how what Pakatan planned differs from what was done in Perak.
Pakatan’s game plan, if my understanding is correct,is to go through the constitutional means which is to table a motion of no confidence and then seeking an audience with the King. In other words, to formally have a vote rather than stage a ‘coup’.
In Perak, this was not allowed to take place by the extra mile that the HRH went by not giving time for the issue of the validity of resignation of the 3 ADUN to be settled and ordering the MB to resign and as clearly explained by Art Harun, the MB does not hold his/her office at the pleasure of HRH.
And in regards to your argument that the majority voted for the current government, I assume you are referring to BN at federal level because if you are referring to Perak, then I beg to differ simply because in Perak’s case, the majority voted for Pakatan government and the ‘so called new government’ did not obtain its mandate from the people.
So, yes, let’s be realistic.
telur dua
February 7, 2009
A dangerous precedent has been set in Perak.
Mr Smith
February 7, 2009
Why should a sultan, so highly respected, allow himself to be so viciously vilified and damned during this tail end of his life.
He is the most condemned ruler in this country’s history. What a curse?
bayi
February 8, 2009
I have this to say.
Once an action is taken that sullies a reputaton, not even a thousand subsequent actions that try to repair the reputation to its original state will be totally successful.
Suspicions will linger and they will continue to linger. This applies to everyone, be it the person is a clerk, a state assemblyman, an MP or a ruler.
vsp
February 8, 2009
It was said by many that the hopping game was started by Anwar. I think it’s totally fallacious. The hopping game was actually started by the BN immediately after the 2008 electoral tsunami. Toyo was trying his best to topple the Selangor government by enticing some PAS members, led by Hassan Ali. This was confirmed by Abdullah Badawi himself. So Anwar, in order to protect the fledging coalition from the BN wolves, decided to initiate the crossovers game to confuse the BN.
In Perak, it took a glacial 2 weeks for the sultan to recognize the Pakatan government. In the meantime, the BN was given time to feverishly try to buy some Pakatan MPs but was unsuccessful. Then the Sultan refused to appoint the MB from the DAP and instead chose the one from PAS hoping that the Pakatan coalition would collapse due to different ideologies between DAP and PAS. Fortunately, DAP swallowed their pride and was able to accept and work with Nizar. At that time I had the sneaking suspicion that the Sultan was trying to sabotage the Pakatan state government from forming. Recent event strengthens my suspicions.
The present Perak imbroglio is caused by the Sultan himself. Nobody questions his right to accept or reject the dissolution of the state assembly. But I think he make a terrible mistake: instead of stopping at this point he went beyond his powers and issue a diktat to bundle off and humiliate Nizar. The democratic process should have proceeded from the stage of rejection but the Sultan short-circuit it by swearing in the replacement MB from UMNO in lightning speed even before the democratic process could begin. Thus the constitutional crisis of the two Mentri Besars.
Another thing: would any insane employer hire a person with dubious reputation into his organisation? This is exactly what the respected Sultan of Perak has done with his famous interview with the three unsavoury characters.
Out of this episode I can conclude:
1) The greatest loser is the Sultan himself. He was one of the most enlightened and respected sultans in the country. With this incident, straight thinking and good judgement seem to have mysteriously abandoned him and he could have short-circuited himself from being the sharpest legal mind and well-beloved sultan and landed himself into the rogues’ gallery.
2) Would the Perak Watergate be the Waterloo for Najib?
3) Would Anwar Ibrahim have the last laugh?
Let’s wait and watch.
sampalee
February 8, 2009
GOD will chose appropraite time and event to expose the hidden evils of all includinding kings and lords.As Allah chose his villians,he also chose his heroes to put thing along his script.BR and NOT PR will save the day.
John 316
February 8, 2009
Dear Raja Nazrin, from now on, please do not make any more of your speeches on impartiality, neutrality of royalty, or rulers must be fair to the people etc. perhaps you did not expect to have to walk your talk. but God has his ways of putting you to the test and right at your own doorsteps (your homne state). and every malaysian says “You have failed miserably” .if the newspaper stil continue to print your fancy speeches, we will all say “What a lot of verbal diarrhoea”. I was born and bred in Ipoh Perak and I am disspointed with the perak royal family. Everyone will be watching Gamuda with interest from now on.
Reniv
February 8, 2009
Marie Antoinette, Queen of France WHEN TOLD THAT THE PEOPLE ARE STARVING BECAUSE THERE IS NO BREAD….SHE RETORTED “CAN’T THEY EAT CAKES INSTEAD.”
IS OUR ROYAL HRH SULTAN OF PERAK SO OUT OF TOUCH? THE RAYKAT ARE HUNGER FOR HUMANITY, FAIRNESS, TRANSPARENCY,CLEAN & EFFICIENT GOVERNMENT.
tanni
February 8, 2009
We felt exactly the same way as “Red” 11.18 am. That while you have been extra noble in spirit & proactive representing the People , but has been terribly naive and misled by the Royals (can’t really blame RPK too since he claims to be one himself ). Let this be a drastic eye opener and we accept that Mahathir had been right all along.
Finally the long hidden secrets out , that the royals are the real scumbags of the country
Patriot
February 8, 2009
I rather be a lifelong man on the run, constantly been tracked down by bn goons; than accept buyout by them, and live a life of cowardice and shame, and betray my people!
Lu Xun, famed patriotic Chinese writer poet 1918-1936
Shamsul Yunos
February 8, 2009
Saturday, February 7, 2009
Nizar sacked himself
This little clause below is what PKR quotes as the defining legal rampart from which they want to hurl accusations and abuses that the Sultan has overstepped his boundary.
“If the MB ceases to command the confidence of the majority of the members of the Legislative Assembly, then, unless at his request His Royal Highness dissolves the Legislative Assembly, he shall tender the resignation of the Executive Council.”
Let us look at this sentence very carefully, first we will remove the bit between commas and see what we get
“If the MB ceases to command the confidence of the majority of the members of the Legislative Assembly he shall tender the resignation of the Executive Council.”
Once the MB ceases to command majority, he is to tender his resignation.
Did he lose command of the majority? If he did not why on earth would he go and ask the Sultan for a dissolution.
The resignation here is for the whole executive council or Exco.
Here is where the Sultan’s role comes in;
Once Nizar has come forward with request for dissolution, he has effectively put the Sultan on notice that he has lost command of the majority.
Remember this; at no point has anyone come up to say that he has lost command of the majority, all we had notice that BN was goign to hold a Press conference to announce that Bota has returned to the fold and three ADUNs have resigned from PKR and DAP to become independent.
If he did not ask for dissolution then it woudl be a different story, since there would still be room to wriggle and leaves little or no opening for BN to come in and make a claim of majority.
If Nizar HAD NOT asked for dissolution, it would be hard for the Sultan to entertain BN’s request, at the most he may suggest that they should hold an emergency session to see who’s got the bigger bat.
NIZAR’s first course of action should have been to ask for an emergency session to sort it out like politicians but I guess he figured he woudl lose in an emergency session so he jumped the gun and asked for dissolution, If you follow the logic train, this route would also bring you to the conclusion that Nizar did not command the majority
But since Nizar has put the Sultan on notice that he no longer commands majority when he asked for a dissolution, there is every reason for the Sultan to receive BN’s proposal for a new Government.
Once he has received assurance from all 28 Umno reps and three independent tha they are indeed in support fo the single largest party in the state assembly, the Sultan can now decide whether he should accept Nizar’s request for dissolution.
All he did was deny that request for dissolution (this is the bit between the comma.
then, unless at his request His Royal Highness dissolves the Legislative Assembly
When the Sultan refused to entertain Nizar’s request for dissolution, by virtue of the bits after the comma AND without any further action from the Sultan, Nizar is required to tender his resignation, failign which the seat becomes automatically vacant.
In effect Nizar sacked himself by asking for a dissolution of the state legislative, in fact he announced the dissolution even before getting consent from the Sultan ( which is, by the way, a departure from the rule ( ultra vires kata orang loyar – salah dari segi undang undang, melangaku had kuasa). but never mind that little anomaly, by annoucning the dissolution, Nizar told the world that he no logner commands majority.
So you see Nizar really did sack himself and he did publicly, without asking the Sultan, who had fought hard for his post to receive and accept his resignation by agreeing to a dissolution.
After the MB, requested for dissolution and the sultan declined, the MB’s office automatically becomes vacant, (read the Sultan’s office statement again for he articulated this legal point very clearly and at no time did he say that he sacked Nizar, it simply stated the cause and effect)
Faced with a vacant chair of the state executive, the Sultan has to move quickly to prevent a power vacuum.
At this point what the Pakatan people should have done is gone to present their case to the Sultan, that they still have command of over the legislative council, though it may be a minority Government…
Oh they may have vaguely mentioned it to us but never made this representation to the Sultan you see…
So, faced with only one representation from BN for forming a new Government despite Nizar coming for a second time before the Sultan, (Nizar went again to plead for dissolution – thus providing double confirmation that he has no majority to offer to the Sultan) he had no choice but to accept the BN’s proposal.
What happened here is an example of a lack of understanding of how the law works,
If you tell the Sultan that you no longer command majority, by asking for dissolution then you have basically shot yourself in the foot
which is surprising because I am sure that Pakatan has an army of lawyers, Karpal is famous , I was told Kit Siang is legally qualified and many others….
In Conclusion, Nizar sacked himself publicly first then told the Sultan he wanted dissolution which effectively means he has lost comand of the majority, which means if the sultan does not agree to dissolution his seat becoems automatically vacant (sultan did not sack him), if the Sultan agreed to dissolution – it would also mean that the MB has lost his seat so you must be careful with request for dissolution because it is a very dangerous option.
Anwar tried this trick on Pak Lah on Sept 16 but Pak Lah did not fall for it, just sat it out until next session and nothing happened…
Stop blaming the Sultan for making the choice that he did, he is well within the law and a massive statewide election is an unnecessary distraction and expense at this point and a BN Government will likely get more support from the Federal Government, crucial during times of recession. He simply took the option that would better serve the people.
stcin
February 8, 2009
R-A-H-M-A-N(Nizar !?) why NOT !?
Al-Sadr
February 8, 2009
Kami tak setuju ,apabila sahaja BN berkuasa di Perak , menteri Besar di lantik oleh pihak tingkat empat putrajaya.
Mana boleh? Sudahkah kita siasat siapa dia ni Dato? Bolehkah kita percaya Dr Zambry ? Sudah 48 tahun saya duduk di perak tak pernah pun mendengar nama dia , baru minggu lepas. Untuk menjadi ketua menteri atau wakil negeri , kenalah dicalunkan dan mendapat sokongan padu dalam BN diperingkat negeri barulah boleh diterima. Ini bukan pakai hentam saja!
Mudahnya kita lupa bahawa Dr Mahathir telah melantik DS Abdullah Badawi untuk menggantikan tempatnya dalam UMNO enam tahun yg lampau tanpa pengundian dan sokongan akar umbi.Lihatlah apakah nasib yang telah melanda arena politik negaraku? Tidakkah kita serik dengan perlantikkan yang membabi buta sebegini.Mahukah kita mengulangi kesilapan Dr Mahathir yang lepas?
Rasupal
February 9, 2009
YB Arumugam of Kedah resigns, according Malaysia Today.
hartalmsm
February 9, 2009
IT AIN’T OVER TILL THE FAT LADY AND PINK LIPS SING
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Only too predictably, The Star pontificated on “the predictable protests” in the wake of the Perak state government ouster.
The voice of the paper – or should we say Star’s political masters – was conveyed in its Sunday, 8th February editorial headlined ‘More civilised reactions in protests needed’.
Preaching that “Rioting for whatever reason can never be condoned or sanctioned as part of any political process”, the editorial characterized to be “ugly mob violence” conscientious objections by Pakatan supporters to the lightning speed installation of Perak’s replacement Menteri Besar.
The Star leader writer piled on the propaganda using labels such as “unlawful acts”, “anti-social actions”, “disgraceful and unwarranted”, and “self-demeaning and counter-productive” to describe the supporters as “threatening public order”.
Actually, these strong words can easily be turned around to describe a whole slew of ‘ugly mob violence’ perpetrated by Umno in recent memory (we don’t have to go all the way back to ’69 as MSM is wont reminiscence).
In fact, the entire governance of the BN has been ‘a riot’ – pun intended.
But of course the ruling coalition of 52 years is incapable of realizing itself as the pot calling the kettle black. So, repeating the tired leitmotif, the Star gives its brainwashing another spin cycle in the wash: “Threatening public order is no way for supporters to press their case …”
The rag does not disappoint in delivering on cue the by now entirely ‘predictable’ and officially endorsed punchline : “There are proper channels to utilise in expressing disagreement …”
What’s with MSM’s love affair with ‘proper channels’, eh?
http://thestar.com.my/columnists/story.asp?file=/2009/2/8/columnists/thestarsays/3222490&sec=thestarsays
AP Queen Rafidah used ‘proper channels’ (the government’s media mouthpieces) to slam Nizar for not recognizing the legitimacy of his sacking. Umno politicians used ‘proper channels’ (the government’s strong arm enforcers) to record police reports against Nizar.
However, there is a silver lining behind the dark cloud of this Perak episode. Nizar has demonstrated his spine and his party PAS demonstrated that its Aduns are not tainted with Umno DNA, unlike the briefly PKR man Bota, and his colleagues Behrang and Changkat Jering.
The DAP woman Jelapang may likely be conferred bumiputera status for her services to the nation and we reckon she can qualifly for Wanita Umno membership soon.
While we wait for Perakians to show their will on the calibre of men and women they desire as their representatives, the People’s Parliament and decent Malaysians who love our country stand steadfastly with Nizar.
Valga Makkal Sakthi!
no such thing as ABM!
February 9, 2009
Hey Barisan Rakyat bloggers, time for you to work your magic and to get the Chinese and Indians who are still sleeping and afraid, to rush to Perak and protect our next Pakatan leader and PM, Nizar.
Breaking News from Malaysia Today — PAS Youth has called upon all its members to go to Ipoh immediately to safeguard MB Nizar as there are rumours the police is planning to arrest him for sedition to the Sultan.
Reniv
February 9, 2009
THE WORD CRISIS ORIGINATED FROM THE GREEK WORD MEANS RETHINK! I SUGGEST COMPONENT OF PR PAUSE FOR A MOMENT HEAD ON CONFRONTATION MAY NOT BE THE BEST SOLUTION. LOSING A BATTLE DOESN’T MEAN WE WILL LOOSE THE WAR, STRATEGY, WITHOUT STRATEGY IT COULD MEAN TRAGEDY. PR SHOULD CHOOSE THE TIME & THE BATTLEGROUND RIGHT NOW IT SEEMS BN IS FORCING THEIR HAND.
farida
February 9, 2009
stcin above said:
R-A-H-M-A-N(Nizar !?) why NOT !?
Why not indeed? We have someone hastily wanting to ascend the ‘throne’ because he thinks it is inevitable with his name beginning with ‘N’ and all the time the right ‘N’ was waiting in the wings.