12.33pm : Imtiaz closes submissions. Nik Hashim adjourns proceedings until 1.30pm to deliver the decision on the recusal application.
12.29pm : Imtiaz refers to an authority in the bundle of the Senior Federal Counsel where a judge chose to not hear because he had previously formed a view adverse of a litigant.
Whether what RPK has written of Augustine is contemptous of court is a separate issue. The question is whether those writings may occasion a bias on the part of Augustine?
Would the public think that the Augustine suffered the taint of bias arising from those writings? How would the public, thinking Augustine to be biased, view his continuing to hear this appeal. How would this impact on public confidence in the administration of justice.
12.24pm : Imtiaz undertaking his reply.
12.22pm : Sorry, back from washroom and nicotine fix call. Senior Federal Counsel closing his arguments.
12.06pm : Imtiaz closes his submissions and Senior Federal Counsel commences his submissions.
12.04pm : Imtiaz points out that Augustine having previously formed the view that RPK is a threat to naitonal security, and in this present appeal, the Hoem Minister has states as his grounds for the detention as being that RPK is a threat to national security, the re is a risk of Augustine bringing to the hearing of this appeal a pre-disposition to the view that RPK is indeed a threat to national security.
12.01pm : Draws the attention of the two judges to the statement that was issued by the IGP in 2001 and was the basis of RPK’s ISA detention in 2001.
Augustine Paul, Imtiaz explains, then, dismissed RPK’s habeas corpus when the former was a High Court judge. That decision of Augustine was subsequently set a side by the Federal Court.
11.56am : Imtiaz emphasises that RPK’s complaint is the risk of bias, and not actual bias.
11.54am : Justice Nik Hashim appears to be agitating for Imtiaz ‘to move on’.
11.49am : Justice Zulkifli raises the question of what if a person before the court now writes nasties of the presiding judge. Does this mean that the judge must recuse himself?
Imtiaz responds to clarify that all the written material by RPK were well before these proceedings commenced.
There is no way these writings could have been contrived with a view to build a foundation for these recusal proceedings.
11.37am : Imtiaz now starts to make reference to the facts giving rise to RPK’s concerns of bias on the part of Augustine.
Imtiaz informs the judges that for a long time, RPK has been long critical of Augustine. This goes back to when Augustine was hearing Anwar’s corruption trial in 1999 when RPK was the editor of the online Free Anwar Campaign.
Imtiaz starts to detail what RPK had previously written in criticising Augustine.
Nik Hashim interrupts, inquiring how RPK’s writings might bring about bias by Augustine.
Imtiaz points out that a reasonable person could well see that the subject matter of RPK’s criticism would be angry with RPK.
Imtiaz draws attention to RPK’s reference to Augustine as part of a ‘gang of slimeballs’.
Imtiaz draws attention to a recent criticism by RPK of Augustine, where in reference to the impending charges of sodomy against Anwar, that the prosecution could do an ‘Augustine Paul’.
Imtiaz categorically states that RPK has written to categorise Augustine as a judge lacking in integrity.
Nik Hashim comments that the articles that Imtiaz has referred to were not written in contemplation of the appeal under consideration.
Imtiaz alludes to the possible perception of a third party observer that Augustine might, in the might of all that RPK has written of him and all of which Augustine may well be aware of, that Augustine may well want to see RPK sent back to Kamunting.
11.35am : Imtiaz alludes to what appears to be a lower standard set in the Judges Code of Ethics and initmates that there is a need to harmonise the various competing principles enunciated by the various decisions.
11.32am : Test of bias, Imtiaz submits, is an objective one. Does not matter if the judge says I will not biased, how will the risk of bias be viewed, objectively. Imtiaz confirms that the applicable test in our jusrisdiction is the ‘real danger of bias’.
11.27am : Imtiaz is still taking the judges through the authorities from England. He emphasises on the concerns of possible bias arising from relationships and interest that may impinge on the ability to remain impartial.
11.22am : Imtiaz commences his submissions on the recusal application.
Makes reference to the Judges Code of Ethics that was put into place for our judges in 1994.
Submits that it is trite law thta a judge is automatically disqualified where a judge has an interest in the out come of a proceeding. This must not be limitied to a pecuniary interest.
Refers to the decision of the House of Lords in the famous Pinochet case.
11.18am : Nik Hashim announces the unanimous decision of two judges. The two judges are of the view that they have the jurisdiction to hear the recusal application with a quorum of two judges and order the hearing of the same to proceed.
11.07am : Justice Augustine removes himself from the proceedings.
Imtiaz inquires if the remaining two judges may proceed. Reference is being made to the relevant legal provisions.
Imtiaz submits that the legal provision relied upon by the remaining to two judges to continue to hear does not apply.
Senior Federal Counsel called upon to respond.
Senior Federal Counsel takes the view that the provision in question applies and the remaining two judges may continue to hear the recusal application.
Imtiaz responds to Senior Federal Counsel’s submission. Takes the court to the central question whether Augustine’s removal of himself took place before the recusal application was formally called up for hearing. Imtiaz reiterates that the hearing cannot proceed with just two judges and that a sitting of just two judges would be unconstitutional.
11.03am : RPK’s called. Senior Federal Counsel introduces all counsel involved. Justice Augustine Paul from the outset says he will recuse himself from hearing and deciding the recusal application
11.00am : Proceedings resume with the judges posing queries to the Senior Federal Counsel for details of an earlier second application that was dismissed. Justice Nik Hashim delivers a unanimous decision of the court. They are of the view that the grounds raised in this appeal ought to have been raised in an earlier that was dismissed and that for that reason the bringing of the third application was an abuse of process. Appeal dismissed.
10.30am : Mano’s counsel closes his submissions. Court adjourns for a while to consider submissions.
10.27am : Senior Federal Counsel has concluded his submissions and Mano’s counsel commences his reply and summing up
10.15am : Mano’s counsel has concluded his submissions and Senior Federal Counsel representing the Home Minister has commenced his submissions.
9.45am : The three Federal Court judges come out to a packed gallery. Hindraf 5 Manoharan’s appeal is called up. This is the only other case, besides the RPK appeal, that is to be heard this morning.












Ken Liew
February 17, 2009
We are with RPK!!
Barbara J
February 17, 2009
Thank you Haris for your live report. I’ve been worried about RPK.
Fair
February 17, 2009
RPK, please do not give up.
We need you !
Long live RPK !
eaglewings
February 17, 2009
Praying hard for RPK. We are one with him. Absolutely no reason to put him under ISA. He is not a threat so the nation. Infact he is the most lovable person around. ISA is cruel!
mosesfoo
February 17, 2009
Thanks bro for your update.
W.Y.Tan
February 17, 2009
I speak for all my friends who are with RPK…May Justice prevail, but we may be hoping against hope. God bless RPK and all his supporters out there.
Paul Warren
February 17, 2009
Steve Biko, Mandela, Ghandhi…the rulers of the day made them out to be the beasts they saw when they looked in the mirror.
All these men were imprisoned and so were many others. I should add Jesus himself was crucified because he was messing around with the powers that be who felt a little destabilised.
These three judges now, together with Najib and UMNO would like me to see all the above as a danger to society deserving of the punishment they bore. Imprisonment, dehumanising treatment, detractors, liars and a danger to society.
Well, that is what they will be telling me and our children.
Put it another way, I can now refer to Ghandhi, Mandela, Steve Biko and Jesus as bloody bums who deserved what they got. That is what my government tells me to think and say.
Raja, if the worst happens, you shall be in good company after all, with the likes of Mandela, Ghandhi and Jesus. After all their incarcerators too made their nations believe that they were a dnager to society.
Najib, how does it feel to be in the company of the Pharasees, Botha, and thecolonial masters of India?
vince
February 17, 2009
Crossing my fingers for RPK! Good will prevail!
Frank
February 17, 2009
harisibrahim,
Good job to provide update, we are so anxious to see RPK is freed like a dove! Lets pray for him!……….
FrosteeSnow
February 17, 2009
Thanks for the live update. Keep it coming and my thoughts and prayers are with RPK.
bbh
February 17, 2009
Praying fr our brother & TQ fr live rpt. Rgds
liyackat ali
February 17, 2009
let pray to ALLAH moga2 RPK di selamatkan dari sebarang penganiaan dan kezaliman.yang benar tetap benar.
Francis
February 17, 2009
I prayed for RPK last night. We have seen over these past few months that he has never been a threat to the people. He is a threat only to corrupt politicians and goverment servants.
Antares
February 17, 2009
RPK is NOT a threat to the nation. Indeed, he is the CONSCIENCE of the nation. RPK, however, is a massive threat to the political ambitions of Rosmah Mansor & Najib Razak – and EVERYBODY knows that.
Today we will know if the Malaysian Judiciary, corrupted by Dr M, will get even more corrupt with Najib in charge. Nevertheless, all decent Malaysians are praying that the forces of karma will throw a huge spanner in the works for all self-serving politicians.
kk
February 17, 2009
Thanks Haris for setting up this update.. Let us all pray for RPK
peng
February 17, 2009
Thanks Haris for this live update.
We are with RPK!
shweta
February 17, 2009
RPK pls don’t give up. We are all with you. That will be the power of people coming together. Our joined spirit will give you the strength and you have immense will power within you. If you give up it means that you have given up on us, the people.
Our prayers are for you. Be strong !
bluesailor
February 17, 2009
Dear RPK,
There is no life after death, heaven nor god at the first place. Killing yourself for these morons do not bring any good for cloned mankind. stay alive to take them another day. i beg you to keep breathing
HS Choo
February 17, 2009
I respect you RPK. You are a man with principle. We still need you. GOd bless you and your family
cat
February 17, 2009
Appeal dismiss…Does that mean RPK is free?
MTfriend
February 17, 2009
YES!!! long live RPK!!
Rakyat
February 17, 2009
Abang RPK, we will not let your sacrify wasted just like that.
No matter what is the outcome, we Malaysian will fight on.
Hidup RPK!
cat
February 17, 2009
Sorry. Wrong case. Sigh!
maran
February 17, 2009
DONT WORRY BRO, GOD WILL BE WITH YOU
Nacimento
February 17, 2009
ViVa RPK !!! PRK !!! PKR !! PR !!!
Eric
February 17, 2009
Haris, what is the meaning of this legal lingo.
Do I read “Appeal dismissed”?
sim kwang yang
February 17, 2009
makes me boiling over with rage.
sky
Argus Eye
February 17, 2009
Couldnt make it this time around as I had to get back to Kuantan. Thanks for the updates. Lets hope for the best. As Allah, Brahman, Jesus or whatever name we may choose to call Him watches, justice should prevail. It better.
Ecila Sumil
February 17, 2009
Thank You bro Haris. I am at tatters end waiting for the news.
I am a malaysian residing in a far away country,so am very anxious for the news.Praise be to God for Augustine Paul to pull out as one of the judges.
Haris,keep the Live news coming.
Thanks
thegame
February 17, 2009
long live Imtiaz.Truth is supreme and it will always prevail….where there is truth there is god..
Anon
February 17, 2009
I am a second year law student and even I can smell a real danger of bias from miles away!
Goay
February 17, 2009
Many people will come again with you, never ever give up!!!We will pray for you too.
ch
February 17, 2009
It was a clear cut case of a politically motivated one when the prosecution appealed against the dismissal of RPK’s arrest under the ISA when the most glaring case of Razak Baginda’s acquittal for a murder charge was even not appealed. The government of BN have gone to the dogs. The whole justice system is gone!
Thank Haris for the invaluable effort. May God bless and protects RPK and family.
coolmama
February 17, 2009
A Singaporean’s fervent prayers are with RPK.
liyackat ali
February 17, 2009
let pray to ALLAH moga2 RPK di selamatkan dari sebarang penganiaan dan kezaliman. yang benar tetap benar.
anak tempatan
February 17, 2009
I fear the worse but hope for the best. Malaysian courts have time and again proven to be the hopping type, you know those from Aussieland. However I see this also as an opportunity for honest judges to reclaim integrity for the judiciary, a once honored profession. Will the men sitting on the bench have the moral fiber so that they can look into their grandchildren eyes and say “My conscience is clear”.
KevinP
February 17, 2009
Great report.. but err.. the judges had nicotine fix too?
shestri ganesh
February 17, 2009
we are praying for RPK……thank you for the consistent reporting….GOD Bless…
p-loon
February 17, 2009
Hang on in there, RPK. We need and want you alive, not dead.
Haris, is a verdict expected today? Thanks for doing such a great job. We’re all in the courtroom with you all in spirit and in our prayers.
shestri ganesh
February 17, 2009
i too had to fix nicotine…getting tense while reading the reporting
mohd ali ismail
February 17, 2009
We Malaysians are all sinners as we are all shrouded with robberies,murders and lies.What can we expect in this BOLIHLAND.Shame on us!GOD has given up with MALAYSIA.
alice
February 17, 2009
Great work Haris. Thanks for giving us updates . God is with RPK and he will be protected. JUSTICE WILL PREVAIL.
alice
February 17, 2009
People who do not have God in their heart will see him as a Threat to the nation and it is utter garbage. Most people see him as a very lovable,god fearing citizen who is truly patriotic.He is willing to die for the country and so what do u can a man like that? Threat??
This poem of love is dedicated to Raja Petra Kamaruddin;
They said to him “Speak to us of Love.”
He looked upon the people, and there fell a stillness upon them.
And with a great voice he said:
When love beckons to you, follow him,
Though his ways are hard and steep.
And when his wings enfold you yield to him,
Though the sword hidden among his feathers may wound you.
And when he speaks to you believe in him,
Though his voice may shatter your dreams.
For even as love crowns you so shall he crucify you.
Even as he is for your growth so he is for your pruning.
Even as he ascends to your height
and caresses your tenderest branches,
So shall he descend to your roots
and shake them in their clinging to the earth.
All these things shall love do unto you
that you may know the secrets of your heart,
and in that knowledge become a fragment of Life’s heart.
But if in your fear you would seek only
love’s peace and love’s pleasure,
Then it is better for you to cover yourself
and pass out of love’s door,
Into the seasonless world where you shall laugh,
but not all of your laughter,
and weep, but not all of your tears.
Love gives nothing but itself
and takes nothing but from itself.
Love possesses not nor would it be possessed;
For love is sufficient unto love.
When you love you should not say,
“God is in my heart,” but rather, “I am in the heart of God.”
And think not you can direct the course of love,
for love, if it finds you worthy, directs your course.
Love has no other desire but to fulfill itself.
Khalil Gibran
et
February 17, 2009
Imtiaz you’re my hero!
peen khaan wala
February 17, 2009
the outcome is a foregone conclusion. the unconstitutionally constituted 2 man Kangaroo court is going to dismiss the application for recusal.
Muhammad Firdaus Christopher
February 17, 2009
Brother Haris,
Thanks for your crisp & real time updates. Am in deep prayer since last night for Pete and hope that justice will ultimately prevail at the end of the day !
Take care & God Bless You,
Christopher
KevinP
February 17, 2009
Malaysians are with RPK. Am following this intensely and eternally grateful to Haris for making it possible.
Haris, what is your take on the 2 remaining judges? Can the bench proceed with only 2?
Vijay Kumar Murugavell
February 17, 2009
The BN should RECUSE itself from being the government.
Katamari
February 17, 2009
I am not sure if you guys have heard about
this but in the UK there is this thing called
the Early Day Motion (EDM). An Early Day Motion
(EDM) is a colloquial term for a motion put
forward by an MP for which no date for a debate
has been arranged.
The purpose of an EDM is for the MP to put forward
and publicise their opinion on a subject and to
seek support from other MPs about the matter in
question. It is in effect a ‘petition’ of MPs and
serves to show the strength of feeling about
particular issues’.
It is very unlikely that an EDM will be debated
in the House of Commons but when an EDM recieves
a lot of support (typically 200+ signatures) then
the British government may come under sufficient
pressure that it will arrange a debate on the
subject.
EDMs can address local, national and international
matters.
You can find names and contact details of British
MPs at http://www.parliamentUK . Start writing to these
MPs. This is the least we can do to help those
detained under the ISA.
k
February 17, 2009
RPK a threat to national security? C’mon..he’s no threat to national security, not even to Najib, not to anyone. But you Najib, what are you so scared about? You did something bad/wrong? Can’t you take some criticism? What type of leader won’t accept criticism from others. The bad and inefficient type of course. So Najib, what type of leader are you?
menatwork
February 17, 2009
RPK a bonker, I’ve stopped my association with the bonker months ago. No better things other than complaining & slandering !!
elaine
February 17, 2009
Hi Haris,has the verdict out ? Tks
sambal muncha
February 17, 2009
Just heard Justice Augustine Paul is back behind the bench!
storm62
February 17, 2009
dear bro haris and all rightful Malaysians,
may i suggest we contribute say RM1-10 to all ADUNs N MPs whom are victimised by the goons to live and fight another day. Especially the Late YB Roslan Shaharum, YB Arumugan, YB Elizabeth and our beloved RPK.
hope you can start the ball rolling, bro haris.
JC
February 17, 2009
Welcome back after your long silence…missed you^o)
Thanks for the update
AnakBangsaMalaysia
February 17, 2009
Thanks for the updates Haris.
God bless Barisan Rakyat and RPK.
sharleen
February 17, 2009
thx 4 the info haris…GOD BLESS U N RPK…u r boths my HERO
taukeh
February 17, 2009
RPK,
If you are a true hero of the people then you MUST live on and not be defeated by your own ego. Planning to do what you have mentioned in your ‘last letter’ is no difference from commiting suicide. You need not go to Kamuntin to end your life, you can always do it elsewhere. You will definitely disappoint many people, all those who love you especially your wife and children.
Always remember the Chinese saying:
Keep the green forest and there will always be wood for the fire.
I am sure all good Malaysians would like to see you continue the struggle and not commit suicide.
We all thank you for the good work and efforts you have put in all these whiles, so please keep it up and continue the struggle ALIVE and not DEAD. A dead man CANNOT struggle…
taukeh
artchan
February 17, 2009
Used to vote BN in the first few elections after I became eligible to vote. The last 3 elections, I voted anything that is not BN.
Now this…Until I die BN will not get my vote.
Warrior 231
February 17, 2009
dear Sir
I appeal you to repent before its too late.
Warrior 231
Hornet
February 17, 2009
Pet, please please please, don’t give up your life if they sent you back to Kamunting. We want you to see BN being completely wiped out in the next GE. They way they buat fitnah and buying votes will send a message to all the good Rakyats to vote for the opposition in the next GE. God is watching but it is in His time that HE will take charge. All the true Rakyat stands by you and praying for you, please don’t give up your life, please think about your family esp. your dear Marina and your kids…. they need you and we need you our Hero. God continues to bless you and your family.
yh
February 17, 2009
RPK only has no more than 2 weeks to live coz he will be martyred by INJUSTICE.
Haris, gotta work out soemthing. There’s no hope in the hall of Injustice.
tkterimakasih
February 18, 2009
HARIS,
as a layman,i understand that the appeal court will require a quorum of 3 judges, and federal court, a quorum of 5 or 7 judges. why did some parts of today’s proceedings carry on with only 2 judges?
can RPK get help from people like Param Cumaraswami on impartiality of judges?
maybe RPK can also write to the CJ or the PM to complain about this?
judging from today’s proceedings, one gets the impression that the two judges who invited paul augustine back to the bench were biased too!
maybe we can think of ways to voice our objections in cyberspace or some international bodies. what say you?
best wishes always to RPK and HARIS!
Warrior 231
February 18, 2009
dear Sir,
Am deeply perplexed how counsel could have overlooked this in the course of submission for “recusal” as it is blatantly clear:
78. Continuation of proceedings notwithstanding absence of Judge.
If, in the course of any proceeding, or, in the case of a reserved judgment, at any time before delivery of the judgment, any Judge of the Court hearing the proceeding is unable, through illness or any other cause, to attend the proceeding or otherwise exercise his functions as a Judge of that Court, the hearing of the proceeding shall continue before, and judgment or reserved judgment, as the case may be, shall be given by, the remaining Judges of the Court, not being less than two, and the Court shall, for the purposes of the proceeding, be deemed to be duly constituted notwithstanding the absence or inability to act of the Judge as aforesaid
Source: Courts of Judicature Act 1964
Care to comment, Sir as to why counsel conveniently/negligently? overlooked this to client’s detriment?
Warrior 231
keneoh
February 18, 2009
Dear Haris
Please tell RPK not to be a martyr, Malaysians need him and if he is sent to Kamunting, many many people will demonstrate in the streets. We will all work very hard to overthrow BN and set him free. I had the priviledge to shake your hand and RPK’s hand in KT, and hope to be able to do that again soon.
Keep up the good work.
keneoh from London
jake
February 18, 2009
If you must wear a black armband, wear it for Raja Petra.
If you must blog, blog for Raja Petra.
If you must weep, weep for Raja Petra.
If you must pray, pray for Raja Petra.
If you must fight, fight for Raja Petra, and if you love this nation, love her for Raja Petra.
Democrat
February 18, 2009
May I table a proposal at this critical juncture to reconvene the discussions for an all out hartal in light of what might happen to RPK?
We need some heads to come together to debate ideas, processes and objectives. I used to experience up to 1 a week in the sub-continent and if done with passion and peace, it can send a strong message to all levels of civil society.
wordsmith
February 18, 2009
If justice prevails, RPK must be found innocent.
Raja Petra: Please know that you have the support of every thinking, patriotic Malaysian who shares your pains and struggles for a better nation. Stay safe, mate. All the powers of the Almighty be with you.
anna brella
February 18, 2009
Thanks for the update on RPK’s case Haris, and hope the hibernation was restful.
While watching the learned Malik Imtiaz put up a valiant effort at the recusal hearing to convince perhaps other less reasonable/learned members of the obvious and reasonable inference of non-impartiality that would be apparent to reasonable members of the general public, given the background of the facts in this matter, I couldn’t help observing my temperature rise as well.
So I can understand why you may have needed some kind of a fix to support the your ability to bear through farce in the nation’s highest court of law and worse, see the esteemed and principled church of reason we call the Law and its holy shrine of Justice being sorry, prostituted and bartered/sold off to the highest bidder like some worthless cheap trinket.
And I also feel very sorry for RPK and his family and other people of conscience like the Hindraf leaders and members, who are all being clearly persecuted with unjust laws and made to jump through and over dreadful procedural loops and hurdles laid bare for all to see in these farcical circuses in the Malaysian courts of Law.
Such shams perpetrated in the administration of justice weaken the Rule of Law and the availability of blind justice to all, destabilize good governance and in the end, demean everyone participating in it, especially those highly learned members of the legal profession.
I am disappointed enough to say that I have lost confidence in the Malaysian legal system. I have no confidence in the present Malaysian Bench either, nor respect for some who sit on it who have clearly demonstrated to me, and also to others more learned than I in the legal profession, their eagerness and ability to engage in what would clearly be viewed as questionable eye-brow raising actions and very questionable legal judgments. And that loss of confidence will remain in place until and unless the new (if truly seen as) independent JAC vets all current members on that Bench and ratifies their competencies and privileged right to sit on that Bench and pass legal judgment over their peers, who are their fellow citizens.
Harsh perhaps, but fair in my view from where I am looking at this important matter. I was taught to believe and strive for a valued justice that is always delivered fairly, impartially and consistently, being mindful of keeping both the detail and big picture in view and balance, even when it came to those difficult policy decisions.
I believe in that good way because it is absolutely right to treat law and justice in that way. That is the only way I want to see justice served for myself or for anyone else. That way of justice will serve all well when one needs to turn to it for guidance and protection. This is probably why we are all said to be equal before the Law and before God.
I am sure we all appreciate that it is the Rule of Law that is the bulwarking anchor of any good governance system, and which enables good governance of freely organized, complex civilized society. That is why I see it as being priceless at all costs and a non-negotiable good because justice delivered in any other way just is NOT justice in my books.
So I sincerely hope that my cynicism here will be proved wrong at that next hearing set aside to hear this appeal against RPK’s freedom. If the appeal is set aside or better, if it is thrown out and the Home Ministry’s unjust knuckles given a suitable rap as an appropriate reprimand for wasting the Bench’s valuable time, then I will be the first to raise a glass of bubbly from here to the Malaysian Bench!
“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.