Late last night, a group of us met up and, very quickly, the conversation turned to RPK’s ‘Probably my last message’ post.
The discussion became very heated.
Tempers flared.
At the heart of all that was said was an earnest concern for a man who has come to mean so much to so many of us.
A man who has thus far displayed such tenacity in pushing for change, in pressing for greater transparency and accountability in governance, and tirelessly working to free so many from the mental bondage inflicted by a media so long subservient to their corrupt, political masters.
Yet, we feared that it was this same tenacity that would leave our friend dead in less than two weeks.
A suggestion was made to mobilise a huge turnout for the hearing in the Federal Court next Monday of the Home Minister’s appeal against the order of the Shah Alam High Court that set RPK free last November.
Even as the merits of this suggestion was being deliberated, the task of speaking to and persuading RPK that that which he now contemplated and had made known through his last post could not serve the best interests of the people that he had surely come to love, was thrust upon me.
Back at my hotel room and alone, I revisited RPK’s post. As I read each of the almost 300 comments, I could not help recall my thoughts that I had shared with you last September in my ‘Have we misrepresented ourselves to RPK?’ post.
I had breakfast with RPK this morning.
For a change, I did most of the talking whilst RPK did most of the listening.
I presented to him what I thought were viable options to that which he vowed to do.
He said that he would give due consideration to all that I had said.
Frankly, I felt that this concession that he offered was with a view only to bring the discussion to a close, and I told him so.
He smiled.
I told him that I had one more thing to say before we parted. In his post, he asked that we all continue the struggle to make this country a better place. I told him that the many who worked with him to this end, myself included, were not as yet prepared to continue the struggle without his leadership. I said that if indeed he lost the case next Monday and was packed off again to Kamunting, and it became obvious to us on the outside that he was carrying through with that which he said he would do, I wanted him to know that, with a view to persuading the authorities to end his detention or him to end his vow to ‘fast to the end’, a number of us would join him on the outside in a ‘fast to the end’.
RPK eyeballed me, for almost a half minute, as if trying to suss out if I were bluffing, then asked, “How many?”.
“For now, just a handful”, I replied.
“You?”, he asked.
It was my turn to smile.
We embraced and parted.
For the unfamiliar, the title of this post was taken from the Gospel according to John, Chapter 15 verse 13.





February 18, 2009 at 4:19 pm
Najib will be happiest man if RPK dies but lets pray this will not happen.
We have a government and a PM-in-waiting who do not fear God. Can they defeat God’s will?
In fact I pray he will succeed in his appeal.
February 18, 2009 at 4:22 pm
If you must wear a black armband, wear it for Raja Petra.
If you must blog, blog for Raja Petra.
If you must weep, weep for Raja Petra.
If you must pray, pray for Raja Petra.
If you must fight, fight for Raja Petra, and if you love this nation, love her for Raja Petra.
February 18, 2009 at 4:30 pm
May the God of peace be with you all!
February 18, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Amen to that. Though RPK is not Yesus, he upholds principles that would be a testimony to many.
February 18, 2009 at 4:41 pm
and me
February 18, 2009 at 4:47 pm
May god bless the endeavor of the righteous and destroy this corrupt UMNO regime. The 3 judges would definitely have to answer in the hereafter.
Korean
February 18, 2009 at 5:00 pm
RPK’s fate has been sealed from the start. All these shenanigans are only a show to satisfy UMNO’s own twisted ego that he got a “fair” trial.
Much as it pains me to see heroes like RPK put his life and liberty on the line, I cannot afford to do the same. My family needs me – it may sound lame but its true.
All I have are my words. And by all that is good, I shall unleash them like the Hound of the Baskervilles upon the wicked rampaging in this country!
Meanwhile, I record my thanks to RPK, Haris and others who are the true heroes of this nation. May our history books one day look upon you as the ones who fought for our country’s 2nd Merdeka!
February 18, 2009 at 5:06 pm
“The smile on the face tells all”
RPK must have known this will be his lone battle. When the chips are down, how many of us are prepared to stand by his side.
Monday, the verdict day, will be the test of the peoples’ resolve. Will there be a 100 or a 1,000 strong crowd?! Will the people, whom he dearly loves will repay him with just their presence at the court? Action speaks louder than words.
I shall wait and see, before thinking the next step…fasting with him outside Kamunting.
February 18, 2009 at 5:13 pm
My dearest RPK,
WE rather see you live a HERO,
THAN to die a Martyr.
A hero will live to fight another day.
But a dead Martyr will serves the interest of BN/UMNO to see all critics silenced.
Viva-lah RPK
February 18, 2009 at 5:28 pm
Take hear Haris,
Genesis 22 verse 8
And Abraham said, My son, God will provide himself a lamb for a burnt offering: so they went both of them together.
Haris, Isaac survived. God is faithful
February 18, 2009 at 5:31 pm
civil society and the opposition do not have enough MONEY to fight the evil UMNO/BN regime…
like rpk suggested, i pray non-UMNO parties jump ship and let UMNO collapse.
but easier said than done…
sigh..
carmanio.
February 18, 2009 at 5:33 pm
I am moved to tears by this post of yours. We are all sad and affected by what is to come. I pray that you and all the unnamed others do not have to go to the extend of fasting.
February 18, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Haris,
With this kind of Gomen, Polis, Judiciary and other powers-that-be …. it makes me feel “there’s nothing else we can do about it”. Its terribly frustrating and perhaps its one reason why many of us are not strong enough to be a RPK, but only be with RPK …
February 18, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Hi Haris,
I used to see you at vigil every sunday but not anymore since the heavy police attendance. I’ve been longing to send u a personal email but I do not have your email address.
So much so I would like to be one of them to fast with RPK but if I die fasting, there won’t be any difference because I am nobody.
I then decided to make an appearance in court this coming monday to show my support to RPK but I have not been to a court house before and this shall be my first time.
I tried searching online on the guide line or regulations but can’t seem to find them. Ok, am not really tech savvy kind of person therefore i was hoping if you can share with me on dress code, time and how do I go about when I am there. Sorry for the inconvenience but I am seriously clueless.
You may email me personally or reply here. I’ll check.
Thanks a bunch.
Wern Nee
wernnee,
Just be decently attired.
Court will start at 9am ( in theory ), but if you’re late, you may not get a place in the public gallery.
Federal Court is on the second floor. Two court rooms. Just ask anyone there which courtroom RPK’s case will be heard in.
See you on Monday.
February 18, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Raja Petra, we are behind you all the way, for your most courageous and persistent bravery! But we hope you would not sacrifice yourself to such an extent because we need your brilliant critical mind, to keep on writing. Remember, a pen is mightier than the sword. This unjust UMNO and its viciously corrupted politicians and their tools that include the PDRM will fell one day. But we need you to go on struggling for this, as we need Anwar and many other PR politicians and conscious and just-thinking public. We must think of a new strategy to fight against ISA, from abroad even. Uthaya is losing his leg; such barbarity! Altantuya and many more murdered/raped women and girls still haven’t got their justice….
Katharina Sri (former: Noor Aza Othman)
Germany
February 18, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Dear Haris,
After reading all the stories put up by RPK on the DPM and if RPK believes that all info that he has in hand are true, perhaps this is the best time for RPK’s sources to reveal all, and what this means is to substantiate all that RPK has said about the DPM, his wife and their involvement in the Mongolian lady’s death by having the people whom RPK claims has told him the gospel truth to speak up before the decision comes up at the CA on Monday. Perhaps the PC should be held at the CA itself …Just a thought
February 18, 2009 at 5:51 pm
I’m afraid he will die in vain and also those handful who will be following after him. Many of his so-called supporters dare not even light a candle for him the last time when he was in there.
I believe in the sanctity of life and we have to right even to take our own lives.
I hope he will reconsider and be the Nelson Mandela of Malaysia.
It’s much easier to die than to live without freedom.
I will not mourn for him if he dies.
But if he is prepare to lose his freedom so that I or my next generation can be free, then I will forever be grateful to him.
February 18, 2009 at 5:55 pm
In part response to Eyes Wide Open, I have the same thinking, that I cannot afford to do the same for the responsibility that I have for my family.
However, my sentiment regarding detention under ISA, a draconian law that sees no end and have no redress of any injustice upon oneself, I would do the same as RPK vowed to do if I were thrown into Kamunting.
What RPK has vowed to do has further highlighted the very injustice and cruelty in ISA, something that modern Malaysia must do without. Each and every Malaysian who has voted for the BN government, which openly declares its intention continue to operate the draconian law, has his/her hands tainted with blood of ISA cruelty.
February 18, 2009 at 6:01 pm
Hi Haris,
I have been a supporter of RPK from since the day I heard about his writings and blogs from my brother and have since then been a fervent follower. However tho I believe and respect much of what RPK has done in attempting to make our country a better place to live in, I’m ashamed to say that I myself have done very little to show my support and belief in his cause, not because I don’t care enough but perhaps more so because I don’t have much time or resources to. Yes I am ashamed of myself for not doing enough.Yes, I have now and then been passing his messages through to friends and family but that’s about it. Oh yes, he gets my VOTE during elections too. To whichever party he believes in.
It will be a sad sad day for Malaysians if truly RPK sticks to his word to fast till death takes him, if he is returned to Kamunting and I am not quite sure what I can do to help in any way to reverse his decision. You are right when you said that should he as a leader goes, a lot of his followers, myself included, will surely likely fall aside and may not have the will to carry on his struggle as he hopes. So you have to convince him that if he goes, all his struggles thus far for a better Malaysia will come to zilch. So he CANNOT stop fighting. As long as he is among us, there will be millions who will support him. The authorities knows this. The most RPK will be in Kamunting will be another 4 years max, after that a new government will take over for sure and RPK and his struggles will live on. Am I being naive? Maybe. But we have to have some idealism rite to have hope? I believe in RPK and so do millions. In him we all have the HOPE and dreams that our children will get to live in a better tomorrow> Thank You RPK
February 18, 2009 at 6:03 pm
RPK is a true patriot and Malaysian hero. Allah will guide you.
February 18, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Hi bro,
I know RPK is absolutely serious about the hunger strike to the death. The signs are apparent that he will be sent back to Kamunting come next Monday but the judges cannot be seen to be pressured to reverse their decision, can they?
As a lawyer, can you tell us what would be a legal (and face saving) way out of the ISA (for BN/Judiciary) if indeed RPK is forced into the hunger strike and is dying? Certainly, to reverse a decision because of a hunger strike would not be a good precedence for the country.
Royal pardon perhaps? Or Pak Lah finally deciding to one last good thing before he rides off into the sunset. Would there be enough time?
For you and others to join his hunger strike outside the walls of the Kamunting Detention Camp may be a means to a noble end bro, but two wrongs do not make a right.
Cheah
February 18, 2009 at 6:05 pm
Dear RPK, your last message to us, has really disturb me. I am trying to look at all that has been happening till now. You have set yourself as an icon to everyone of us. People have been putting their comments…some showering praises and motivational comments…some commenting their views on what you should do…some just for the sake of commenting to be in the limelight. At the end of it all, you are the lone warrior in battle. I think there is so much pressure for you. Have we failed you, I just wonder…for you to bring you to such a conclusion…If we have then it is to our every irreversible conscience of guilt that we have put you in such a predicament…we have exposed you to the dogs of corruption that prevails…the dogs that are waiting to tear you apart.I honestly do not know what to do…I am looking for divine intervention, as I am sure others are too. But I have this tinge of guilt that I may have failed you. Haris can we all meet to discuss on possibilities???
February 18, 2009 at 6:05 pm
May be a form of silent protest could be a beginning bro.
February 18, 2009 at 6:13 pm
“I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves”
Even if you think that the devil diguises itself as a snake, show the snake what it is to choose to be a snake but be as harmless as a dove to do it. YOU WILL crush the snake under your feet in no time!
Greater is He that is in you than he (the Devil) that is in the world! You should not attempt it in your own strength but by the power of Him who lives in you, for He is mighty and powerful. More powerful than the burning sun!
Do not be afraid of him who can kill your body only, but be afraid,very afraid of Him who can destroy right to the rotten core of everything!Be patient.
February 18, 2009 at 6:16 pm
I will also fast to the death alongside RPK. Heck, I have eaten and lived enough.
Peace
February 18, 2009 at 6:28 pm
[...] Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends [...]
February 18, 2009 at 6:43 pm
many couldn’t afford to lose RPK but few couldn’t care less about you. why don’t you start earlier so you can die faster? today would be best.
February 18, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Hidup RPK!
Hidup RPK!
Hidup RPK!
February 18, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Sir Haris, you have just earned yourself a place in the new pantheon of true Malaysian patriots and a bona fide knighthood. RPK is a king to the very core, one of the very few on Earth truly worth dying for. What he said in his latest post has been on my mind since, and I find it well nigh impossible to think about the crisis looming upon us all come Monday, 23 Feb 2009, in a dispassionate manner. And yet, in all honesty, I cannot see myself embarking on a fast to the death. I know myself well enough to admit that my will power isn’t that strong.
Thinking about Marina and their beautiful children, I can only imagine the anguish they are undergoing. It’s horrifying that the news media (even Malaysiakini) are headlining something as trivial as Eli Wong’s being photographed without knickers when a matter of life and death demands national attention. The fact that some folks think Eli should quit as Selangor exco over this fiasco (which is none of her doing) is indeed worrying if it serves as an indication of how mature or enlightened we are as a society.
I’m in favor of RPK’s entire legal team crying foul at this point and refusing to participate in the charade unless the 3 federal court judges accede to sitting as a 7-member panel sans Augustine Paul. From what I’ve heard the proceedings in court on Tuesday were absolutely Kafkaesque. RPK himself should stay clear of the court rather than walk straight to his own demise at the hands of the irredeemably corrupt.
Never has this nation known a darker moment. Yet, despite the gloom I see around me when I look through the filter of politics, my entire being tells me that all is not lost… that there are many surprises in store that will shift the balance of power and bring about the happy ending we all crave. At the same time I can totally empathize with RPK when he says he won’t allow his spirit to be encaged, and that he is prepared to leave his enemies an empty husk to gloat over.
February 18, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Count me in!
February 18, 2009 at 7:06 pm
The rakyat seemed to be helpless as the evils use the rule of law to their whims and fancies.
Let us unite to fight and destroy a common enemy once and for all before they destroy this country.
http://kingsmary.blogspot.com/
February 18, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Oh Haris.. and now u pulak is joining RPK.. so the captain, generals, commanders are all gonna follow.. and the cause will be left to weaklings like me to fight.. how lah…
Mati senang, oi RPK and Haris, it’s really so easy.. but think of the people, and the cause you are leaving behind..
Come on lah.. Malaysia is a No Country for Dead Men!
Janganlah mati.. kalau GOD yang request, tak boleh buat apa.. fasting yourself to death is as sinful as C4ing another person to death.. think about it..
What more now, RPK, Haris dan lain-lain will follow you…
FIGHT the Evil BN Bastards with a human life!!!!
Thats why i have soo much respect for Atuk Lim Kit Siang and Pak Nik Aziz.. they’ve been fighting it for how many years already now… and still is fighting… learn from them!! Furthermore.. deorang have to lead the parties… lagi susah…
So.. RPK.. Marina and your kids still need you… dont think twice.. think otherwise..
Same with u Haris.. and you delcapo.. and whoever of thinking of joining them…
PS: I dont think they sell good cigars both in Hell nor in Heaven.. so… why not have a few more couple of good ones before u go?
February 18, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Haris,
I just cut and paste an article on Gandhi’s for all to recall. Do you think Malaysians are prepared. I dont think so?
The 1930 Salt March
Gandhi began a new campaign in 1930, the Salt Satyagraha. Gandhi and his followers set off on a 200-mile journey from Ashram Ahmedabad to the Arabian Ocean where Gandhi wanted to pick up a few grains of salt. This action formed the symbolic focal point of a campaign of civil disobedience in which the state monopoly on salt was the first target. Prior to the beginning of the action, Gandhi sent a letter to the Lord Lieutenant “Dear Friend (…) Whilst, therefore, I hold the British rule to be a curse, I do not intend harm to a single Englishman or to any legitimate interest he may have in India (…) My ambition is nothing less than to bring round the English people through non-violence to recognize the injustice they have done to India. I do not intend to be offensive to your people. Indeed, I would like to serve your people as I would my own (…).”
Yet the Lord Lieutenant didn’t even reply personally to his letter. Gandhi held his last prayer meeting on the evening of the 11th of March 1930. “There can be no turning back for us hereafter. We will keep on our fight till swaraj is established in India. Those of them that are married should take leave of their wives. We are as good as parting from the Ashram and from our homes.— Let nobody assume that after I am arrested there will be no one left to guide them. It is not I but Pandit Jawaharlal who is your guide. He has the capacity to lead.”
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It was hoped that this action would spread across India. Wherever possible, civil disobedience was to be used to counter the salt laws. It was illegal to manufacture salt, regardless of the location. The possession and trading of smuggled salt (natural salt or salt earth) was also illegal. Anyone caught selling smuggled salt was liable to prosecution. To collect salt from the natural deposits at the coast was also illegal.
Gandhi had a large group of well-trained Satyagrahi available to him; as well trained in observation as they were in spreading propaganda among the masses. They were bound by a joint pledge and by the principles of the “Ashram in Exodus”, which encompassed three points: prayer, spinning and keeping a diary. They wore uniform clothing (a sort of Khaki uniform) and wore the headwear of prisoners.
After a 24-hour long march to the Indian Ocean, Gandhi picked up a few pieces of salt – a signal to the rest of the sub-continent to do the same. This raw material was carried inland before being processed on the roofs of houses in pans and then sold. Over 50,000 Indians were imprisoned for breaking the salt laws. The entire protest was carried out almost without violence. Indeed, it was this that annoyed the police.
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A report from the English journalist, Webb Miller, who witnessed one of the clashes, has become a classic description of the way in which Satyagraha was carried out at the forefront of the battle lines. 2,500 volunteers advanced on the salt works of Dhrasana:
“Gandhi’s men advanced in complete silence before stopping about one-hundred meters before the cordon. A selected team broke away from the main group, waded through the ditch and neared the barbed-wire fence. (…) Receiving the signal, a large group of local police officers suddenly moved towards the advancing protestors and subjected them to a hail of blows to the head delivered from steel-covered Lathis (truncheons). None of the protesters raised so much as an arm to protect themselves against the barrage of blows. They fell to the ground like pins in a bowling alley. From where I was standing I could hear the nauseating sound of truncheons impacting against unprotected skulls. The waiting main group moaned and drew breath sharply at each blow. Those being subjected to the onslaught fell to the ground quickly writhing unconsciously or with broken shoulders (…). The main group, which had been spared until now, began to march in a quiet and determined way forwards and were met with the same fate. They advanced in a uniform manner with heads raised – without encouragement through music or battle cries and without being given the opportunity to avoid serious injury or even death. The police attacked repeatedly and the second group were also beaten to the ground. There was no fight, no violence; the marchers simply advanced until they themselves were knocked down. (…)”
Following their action, the men in uniform, who obviously felt unprotected with all their superior equipment of violence, could think of nothing better to do than that which seems to overcome uniformed men in similar situations as a sort of “natural” impulse: If they were unable to break the skulls of all the protesters, they now set about kicking and aiming their blows at the genitals of the helpless on the ground. “For hour upon hour endless numbers of motionless, bloody bodies were carried away on stretchers”, according to Webb Miller.
What did the Satyagrahi achieve? Neither were the salt works taken, nor was the Salt Act in its entirety formally lifted. But the world began to realize that this was not the point. The Salt Satyagraha had demonstrated to the world the almost flawless use of a new instrument of peaceful militancy.
[Taken from: Günther Gugel, Wir werden nicht weichen. Erfahrungen mit Gewaltfreiheit. Eine praxisorientierte Einführung, Verein für Friedenspädagogik e.V., Tübingen 1996, 51ff.]
February 18, 2009 at 7:12 pm
RPK has been out for some months and he has not caused any chaos whatsoever. So what justifications do they have to lock him up without trial. Pak Lah and Tuanku please do something, have mercy for your innocent and loyal subject before our country becomes a laughing stock of the whole world.
February 18, 2009 at 7:15 pm
As soon as I read that the government is determined to lock him away I prayed for him. Just when the rice is about to boil don’t turn off the fire, RPK, don’t leave us in the lurch (sorry) in this time of need.
February 18, 2009 at 7:16 pm
As for me, this nation history will be only about RPK and dare anyone try to convince me its the politicians.
No amount of Agongs and Sultans can compare to this One man who means and touched so many ordinary lives today. Honestly, other than RPK, the rest with powers can just drop dead for all I care.
February 18, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Dear RPK,
Please do not do this to Malaysia, and all anak Bangsa Malaysia.
You know we need you to lead us. You are not a politician and we all know you have no personal agenda for opposing the ruling party other than preventing Najib from being the PM.
Do not let them win by default. You should not die and pass on the torch. I’m sure I am not exaggerating if I say millions of Malaysians are dreaming of a Malaysia you are dreaming of.
Live to fight another day. Nelson Mandela did it, so can you. At the very least, live to see how GE13 turns out. God willing, you shall be pleasantly surprised.
TQ
cksaw
February 18, 2009 at 7:53 pm
What the wicked dreads will overtake him;
what the righteous desire will be granted.
When the storm has swept by, the wicked are gone,
but the righteous stand firm forever.
Long live RPK!!!!!!
February 18, 2009 at 7:59 pm
Haris, the trial is going to be a sham.
Can’t u just spirit him out of the country?
Having u all die is not going to do any of us any good.
50 years of indoctrination cannot be undone overnight.We have to chip slowly, brick by brick.
The battle is being slowly won.
And no way we will succeedd without u guys.
GET RPK OUT NOW!
February 18, 2009 at 8:04 pm
Haris,
I am a 52 old man from Sabah and have great respect for you and RPK for what the both of you have given to this country.
If you propose to join RPK in his fast,I want to be with you and I mean it. I do not know if my wife and children will support me in this matter and I don’t even know if I can fast till I die but I sure can fast till I collapse.That you can count on it.
So if you really mean it, mobolise the people.
February 18, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Dear RPK, please please do not do what you have plan ie to fast till you die… Don’t ever let the bunch of monkeys laugh to their hearts content. I know it is a long way before the next GE but come next GE I am sure the angry and faithful Rakyat who are behind you will wipe the monkeys out flat. Please please don’t take your life … still praying for you and your family. Please think think and think before your do anything to take away your life…. your life belongs to God and only God can take you….
February 18, 2009 at 8:17 pm
My dearest RPK,
WE rather see you live a HERO,
THAN to die a Martyr.
A hero will live to fight another day.
But a dead Martyr will serves the interest of BN/UMNO to see all critics silenced.
Viva-lah RPK
(echoing fslam)
February 18, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Count me in!
angela ooi
February 18, 2009 at 8:19 pm
I am sorry Haris, I use the wrong phrase: RPK is not under pressure on himself. The seeds of evil are too great. He is a man of principle and uphold his principles of righteousness and justice. And he will by virtue of the above go down whilst trying to right the wrong. All for the good of the nation and a better tomorrow for all of us.
February 18, 2009 at 8:38 pm
what a bunch of stupid cult followers…wake up lahh!!!
February 18, 2009 at 8:40 pm
I post this remark in MT. Just for the thought -
If the Federal Court sends RPK back to Kamunting, Najib signs an Executive Order when he becomes the PM to set him free. And that would make Najib the Hero in the eyes of Malaysians? Oh maybe that’s not what Najib wants. Let’s say it’s Datin Rosmah who so compel Najib to sign. Ghee, a strange twist on the pages of Malaysian history? IF that happens, I wonder whether RPK would want to walk out from the Kamunting walls!
malsia1206
February 18, 2009 at 8:41 pm
“I told him that the many who worked with him to this end, myself included, were not as yet prepared to continue the struggle without his leadership. I said that if indeed he lost the case next Monday and was packed off again to Kamunting, and it became obvious to us on the outside that he was carrying through with that which he said he would do, I wanted him to know that, with a view to persuading the authorities to end his detention or him to end his vow to ‘fast to the end’, a number of us would join him on the outside in a ‘fast to the end’.”
A really strong statement here but I can’t agree with you more. Many of the rakyat, yes including myself, can’t take up the lead without RPK. We need him to lead us to fight till the very end. And I am sure there will be a chaos if RPK indeed carries out what he said he will do in Kamunting.
Thank you for posting this article and having the conversation with RPK.
Lastly, to everyone out there:
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. (Matt 10:28)
February 18, 2009 at 8:46 pm
Haris
Words failed me at this moment and I despair at the prospect of RPK and your sacrifice by fasting to the end. I share your pain at the injustice that is about to happen. Even if I am to be condemned to share the same fate, I cursed all these slimeballs to eternal damnation of hell.
I going away now to get drunk
February 18, 2009 at 9:08 pm
Pete, the battle is almost won. 5 States (we will take back Perak) are now with us… and UMNO is reeling from the groundswell of right thinking citizens opposing it’s corrupted rule. You have been a major galvanizing force for all of us but the race is not finished yet. All of us need you now, more than ever before, to continue to lead, inspires and provide us the co-ordination to see this great country achieve its final destiny.
February 18, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Haris,
I too am lost for words. RPK is as stubborn as a mule, once his mind is made.
You can count on me to join him in his fast to death.
Living and dying is fated. If many like us do join him, it could be the only way to get him to change his mind.
If not dying together with him is JUST CAUSE. We cannot allow him to do this alone.
My only fear is that I may not have the strenght to see it to the end.
But it is the least I must try to do.
You have my email address, mail me asap so that I can get my things in order, then to Kamunting here we go.
February 18, 2009 at 9:12 pm
Haris,
I’m sorry, but heroic as it may sound, what you guys are proposing to do is inane. It will not serve much purpose. Do you think that the people will be so moved by your deed that they will storm the Bastille? This is Malaysia, for God’s sake! And the 21st Century. The BN bastards will dance on your graves. Your detractors will have a party.
We’ve only met a few times but I cherish you and RPK too much — and what you stand for and have been doing — to see you give your lives in vain. And what about your families? How will they take it?
You can achieve so much more by using your gift of life to continue fighting for a better Malaysia — for all the Anak Bangsa Malaysia who deserve that better place.
So please don’t talk about doing a far, far better thing than you’ve ever done and going to a far, far better place than you’ve ever been. Talk about the next thing Malaysians can do to bring down the corrupt government. Talk about the bullshit that those BN bastards would have us believe and point out what is right — as you did eloquently last night in Klang. God knows we all need eloquent voices to tell us the truth.
Actually, I’m not a God-fearing man and if you want to commit suicide, it’s no skin off my nose. I don’t consider it a sin. But I consider it a sin and a shameful waste if the drastic measure that you consider taking ends up achieving nothing.
Take care, brother. And RPK too.
February 18, 2009 at 9:22 pm
That’s the best definition of love I’ve ever come across.
Does N know what will happen if RPK becomes a martyr? Malaysians become fearless. That will mean TOTAL DISASTER for BN. I hope they are not that dumb.
February 18, 2009 at 9:26 pm
Hi bro,
Take it easy, will you …there are many ways to skin a cat and this way is definitely not it !!!
February 18, 2009 at 9:29 pm
Haris
My concern is that knowing the dark sides of Malaysians, our collective spirit and love for freedom and for Malaysia is not yet strong enough. Perhaps you are right to impress upon him that his idea is right, the timing for such an idea is not. 50 of us may fast and die with him, but what after that? not yet, soon, but not yet. He needs to continue to fight the battle so we malaysians can win the WAR
February 18, 2009 at 9:35 pm
To my hero rpk —you are god sent to us. righteous man who fought for what is right. I and my family are praying for you. God bless you, sir.
February 18, 2009 at 9:39 pm
To YM RPK, I was wondering the fact that you’re the cousin to HRH Sultan Selangor. HRH did speak up in defense of his uncle HRH Sultan Perak ( your uncle too)but he didn’t even mutter a single word about your rights to a fair trial….hmmmm….Blood is supposed to be thicker than water…You can be the cousin, uncle and relative to all Malaysian if your blood relative doesn’t want you. We’ll take you in. In fact all Malaysian already consider you their own…malay, chinese, indian and org asal…
February 18, 2009 at 9:53 pm
RPK sat
He knew his fate
Looking at the judges
They played the script
Choreographed on the hill
The game they acted
Let the audience thought legitimate
The wind of change
The judges must smell it
Past mistakes now is the time
To make a stand
Bring back the glory of its name
No person must be sent
Into Kah Moon Thing without trial
The excuses of the ruling elites
Of national security
Though many express
The outcome is gone
Until the fight is in the arena
Then we will know
The King says
Honor and protect the Constitution
Will the judges take a leaf?
Let RPK walks out free
Judges make your seats relevant
You can make the changes
Pull in the ruling elites
Telling them you are independent
Let the year of the Bull
Be the year changes come within
The chamber of judges on the hill
Let freedom rule let the wind sing
February 18, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Haris,
Thank you for conveying the voice of the people to RPK as only you can.
SM
February 18, 2009 at 10:02 pm
My prayers and love for a man called RPK,who have exhibited such immense courage and resiliency,may god always be on his side.
May god always bless you,Sir.
February 18, 2009 at 10:25 pm
Do not give up easily Pete! If you do, this would be exactly what those scumbags want happen. Rome wasn’t built in a day, political reforms in every sense of the word, takes a long long time to achieve and we must chip at it. If we all have the will and courage, even though we may not have the full fire, an six-inch thick iron would turn into a fine sword if we keep on hammering it. We may have a mountain in front of us, but if we move one stone at a time, eventually we are going to flatten it. Let’s persevere and stay alive to fight another day. We need your leadership and wisdom!
February 18, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Unfortunately in this modern age and in Malaysia, we the helpless Malaysians still need to fight for our basic human rights. Even worst and humiliating as we are fighting for these civil rights in a country like Malaysia which never fails to boast how great they are as Muslim country practicing Muslim values giving misconstrued idea that Islam encourages exploitation.
The few good men with clear conscience like RPK, you and others have to sacrifice your own comforts to help fellow Malaysians. All I can say for now, sorry my brothers for our inability to free ourselves from the exploitative government.
And of course whatever is the outcome, RPK is “THE MAN” that Malaysians can’t afford to lose!
February 18, 2009 at 10:42 pm
Brother Haris, the longer these Bee-End goons confine the righteous people like RPK in Kamunting prison, the more anger and rage will be stirred up in the heart of the Rakyat.
It will definitely bring down this atrocious and corrupted Guomen in the next GE.
If this happen, all cases connected to these goons will be reopened, and Rakyat will demand the new Guomen to track those goons (from Bee-End, the police, the judiciary etc) one by one, and detain them under ISA, charge them in court and let them taste their own bitter medicine.
Yes, no mercy for them (even if these goons kneel down and beg).
If they don’t believe, just do it.(Hope they will always remember the 16th century French revolution?)
February 18, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Notwithstanding what we’ve been through since March 8, we’re closer now than we’ve ever been to realising our dream for the Malaysia that we long for. Our dream is but another general election away, another four years away, at the very most. What’s four more years in the big scheme of things? Where’s the urgency? Sorry, I just don’t see it.
Don’t go making martyrs of yourselves now because when our time comes, we need all the talent and leadership we could lay our hands on, lest we end up with more like Hee Yit Fong, Jamaluddin Mat Radzi and Mohd Osman Jailu.
You’re worth infinitely more to Malaysia alive than dead, RPK, Haris, Angela Ooi, and the “handful” of those pursuing this senseless plan.
February 18, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Thats being reckless ! What happen to patience , preserverence etc etc I know he’s totally disappointed with the rest but still…
We cannot lose him and more , like this …the ultimate sacrifice is not right . there must be another way . Find it Haris we know you can
February 18, 2009 at 10:56 pm
Dear Haris and YM RPK,
It is a great challenge for people who are willing give their life for a noble and just course.
To fast till the end-an act of noble sacrifice.
To fight till the end-an act of continue struggle with perseverance till we see the light shine.shine in Malaysia.
There are people willing to joint in the course for justice in Malaysia.
Maybe it is still not the time to die for this course yet,when the time comes and the people are ready.You will see many are going to be you.
The people still needing your leadership,so hang on there.May I call you all then,brehren head high and hang on.
February 18, 2009 at 11:10 pm
RPK is a one of a kind. Many who love him for what he stands for, including those here in this blog, should also learn something else from him.
RPK does not blindly ‘attack’ for the sake of attacking. There is a sense of fair play in him that is lacking in many Pakatan supporters and blogs- that of a reality check. RPK has no qualms of taking on Pakatan when it is required. Take the Perak fiaso. RPK was bold enough to say Anwar was playing the same game and when the game backfired in Perak we all cry foul- just take it like gentlemen and carry on the fight to win the war!
How many of us have that kind of insight? So many pakatan people are drawing differences between Anwar’s tactics for party hopping and the BN’s tactics. The point remains that whatever the tactic and the semantics- party hopping is unethcal. Simple.
My salutation to RPK, a true Malaysian. And RPK there is no need to sacrifice yourself. Your insight is needed to give a balance to partisan stands that are biased and wrong.
We have not reached a situation where its hopeless. On the contrary its full of hope. Any honest march will succeed. Any unethical march will fail. Pakatan- get your bloody act together and stop unethical practices.
Long live RPK.
Peace.
February 18, 2009 at 11:28 pm
Dear RPK,
As I had pleaded to you through ‘The Might of the Pen blog’ this morning, be positive trusting only in God. All our prayers will not go in vain. Without faith it is impossible to please God. The battle has just begun and God w2illing, the ultimate war has to be won. Do’t make your enemies laugh at you.
In fact by pressing on with the TRUTH you and all of us will have the last laugh. Our righteous God will give the victory, but let us please Him by doing His will. Your defeatist resolve negates all the ideals that you have built up and firmly stood for to-date.
You,Sir, who have been a symbol and cause of strength, inspiration and resurrection to so many of us cannot resign yourself to defeat. “Those who wait on the Lord shall renew their strength;; and mount up with wings like eagles,They shall run and not be weary,They shall walk and not faint” Isaiah 40:31. Press on, abiding in God who will never leave you nor forsake you. Responsibilities to Marina, your children, friends and most of all to God cannot be compromised, RPK. Many are laying down our lives by interceding for you and your family and your noble cause. We, including Haris, will not be disappointed, as God will answer our prayers (John 14:14). The evil of man will be duly rewarded.
We all can leave for our next abode only when He decides when we should i.e after fulfilling His will. Please take good rest, brother, till we meet on Monday morning in Putra Jaya. God bless!
February 18, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Najib will be to dumb to think that RPK’s death will be to his advantage. He probably initially thinks it will be negative but long run it will be to his advantages. Probably he will back it up with liberal use of the ISA in the near future to cripple PR. Rakyat need to stick together to brave this out if the Evil one become PM on April Fool’s day.
February 18, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Haris, please not you too .. Fasting till the end does not work in this day and age of the internet . Those slimeballs won’t give a damm and they will be only too happy to see RPK , you and the others “fast till the end ” .. There are only a handfull of you brave guys around to lead us. Wipe off this new resistance idea of RPK …Please don’t even think about it !!! Thanks.
February 18, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Kudos my friend,
Thanks for reading all those comments at MT.
I was one of them who left a comment.
I feel RPK ’s struggle will be nothing if,
the rakyat fails to realise,
THEY/WE have to put a hand and make HISTORY happen.
Nothing will happen, if we choose to be silent.
I see/feel that the rakyat (most of them) are just not driven enough. They still do not realise the government works for them and not vice-versa. How can we animate this sleeping GIANT?
February 18, 2009 at 11:50 pm
The tragedy is that even such an act of sacrifice may not even be enough to move the stubborn hearts of those leading the country.
Shame…
February 19, 2009 at 12:06 am
dear haris,
i know you mean well with this post. i know you dont mean any malice with it. i admire you and rpk very much and i am not as eloquent nor am i as brave as you are.
however, please understand the verse you have quoted is reserved for Jesus and Him only. For us believers of Christ, Jesus is God in flesh who came down to lead a sinless life and He died on the cross for the redemption of our sins.
“For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son, so that whosoever beliveth in Him will not perish but have eternal life.”
To equate RPK with Jesus Christ is not right. It would be blasphemous, brother. I admire RPK very much for all of his scarifices and good works for the benefit of the nation but he will never replace Jesus Christ in my life.
The love in the passage above is apape love and only God is capable of it.
I know my comment may cause many to anger but I have been staring at this post for a few hours now. I had to speak my peace.
I will continue supporting you and RPK always.
February 19, 2009 at 12:07 am
I am speechless, but this won’t be the end and we should keep the spirit up! Stay positive, you both mean so much to me, with people like you around I see hope for my nephews and probably my own children..Hang on there.. we will be there for you just like what both of you have done for us, my fellow Anak Bangsa Malaysia.
February 19, 2009 at 12:12 am
Dear Sir/Madam,
“FEW GOOD MEN” I never seen any man as RPK. Apart from my GOD, If iEVER, have to die, surely I wIll be glad to die for the TRUE ROYAL BLOOD, HM RAJA PETRA KAMARUDDIN. If my life can keep him from the walls of Kamunting, then I SHALL be glad to do that. This beloved nation known as MALAYSIA, need RPK more than me. In my life I am yet to come across, a human being so selfless, yet with full of principle and dignity like HM RAJA PETRA KAMARUDDIN. Dear, RPK, I AM WITH YOU.
February 19, 2009 at 12:33 am
So, is anyone here prepare to lay down their lives for his brother?
NO? NO ONE?
Thought so.
February 19, 2009 at 12:40 am
Dear Haris,
I know you and RPK meant well.
In my blunt opinion, only cowards take the easy way out – commit suicide.
So, you and company want to fast to the end?. Like hell you are!
You think a thousand hunger strikers culminating in death would change this country? Umno/BN will thank you for that for the voices of change meet early demise. And we will be back to where we were if not worse.
Mandela spent 27 years in prison doing hard labour in Robben island. And he brought down aparteid as a result.
Communism in Europe fell because the people fought to their death.
But if we must fall let it be for a worthy cause and not because we are afraid to go to jail or lock under the ISA, for which our enemies meant to break our spirit.
If we must fall, let it not be by our own hands. Let the blood be on the hands of our enemies.
If you are not carrying the fight for yourself, then do it for your children and our future generations.
We don’t need any more worries especially coming from our own camp, to add to our existing worries. So, stay with us and fight!
And that’s coming from a Sabahan who went through many injustices and pains yet, live to fight another day!
February 19, 2009 at 12:47 am
The prayers of millions are with RPK.He has the soul of a true warrior, that of honour and integrity.I am humbled by his courage and sacrifices.I know God will be with him throughtout the challenges that he faces.Miracles have happened before and I pray that God in His mercy will deliver this towering Malaysian from clutches of evil doers.
February 19, 2009 at 12:52 am
My dear RPK
I have been sermonising about you to one and all who were willing to lend me their ears these last few days.
I am now left with the last few words for you.
If I lose you, I will lose my will to fight for our cause. Without you to guide me I will not be able to find the direction and destination that we have all fought all this while. If you choose to leave and abandon your comrades-in-arms so prematuredly, then our hopes, our dreams will be condemned to eternity. There wont be another warrior like you to bring about a better and changed Malaysia for the anak-anak Malaysia.
So, my dear friend, damned it, think with your head.
February 19, 2009 at 1:14 am
I am ready, willing, and able to support RPK on Monday. We need a coordinated effort Haris, please let us know what you (RPK’s close friends) have planned to do and how we can support it. We cant lose RPK now, especially when we just have a bit more to go before we can see the finish line and sprint across it.
February 19, 2009 at 1:30 am
Dear Haris,
I pray that justice will prevail so that RPK and you will not have to take the drastic actions. Not to dissuade you, but I wish to consider things from another perspective with you.
BN government is going to topple. I have no doubt about it. The current global financial meltdown will be like a death sentence for BN. It will dry up the gravy train and crumble the whole structure built on corruption. It will trigger a massive implosive from within. BN will collapse on its own weight without anybody doing much to it.
The real challenge is actually how to navigate past the global environmental and financial crisis that is already at our doorsteps. The crisis is MASSIVE. The efforts to topple BN will pale before this daunting task. It will require large scale change in our social and economic structure. It is going to require true leadership from heros like RPK who can speak across the racial and religious barriers and who commands trust and respects from all.
We need to organize ourselves and give an institutional form to People Power. We will need a vehicle with unity as a working presumption. This has to happen – otherwise it will be complete chaos. Pakatan Rakyat may not even be able to hold together with the factioning within and amongst the component parties.
There is much to be done. I wish I can catch up you on this soon. There is so much anguish and pain in my heart now. Please let RPK know that no matter what happens I will not let him down.
Best regards,
Yee
February 19, 2009 at 1:31 am
Dear Harris and RPK,
While I am aligned with you, my mind is full of this thought:
We need Living Heroes more than we need dead martyrs.
Please, let’s fight another rational way.
February 19, 2009 at 3:00 am
Hi Haris,
i have said before, that you are the elder brother that i do not have and i respect you. I do not have the strength like you or RPK to fast till the end as i have a young family. I will see you and be there to light a candle and i pray that this will never materialise and i do not have to make the trip.
The fight for a better Malaysia is a long and steep, why stop now?
February 19, 2009 at 3:48 am
we will continue supporting him. we need him!
February 19, 2009 at 3:51 am
God is getting sick with malaysia.The civilians have no protection of the uniform forces and have to defend themselve.Ghandhi was a politician and it was a political struggle.Why are apolitical activist dying for the nation and the political PR looks on and yet claim the rakyat flock to them in the last GE.
I too would consider the fast,but knowing that PR have not a clue of how to respond to RPK ordeal and yet expecting to benefit from RPK’s sacrifice awake me to GOD’s intention.Tuhan want us to realise the system of democracy which allow voters to be bought as well as elected Wakil Rakyats,the police,the judges,religeos authorities and even the palace is the root of the sickness.
Not a single kithab ackowledge the ballot as the way to TRUTH.If majority believe is indication of what is right,then our world will still be flat.Politic IS shit and there is no such thing as good or bad shit.At time like this,we seek refuge in Allah and pray that GOD send his chosen one to free us from the evil umno.But then could RPK be the orang tuhan and we are stupid not to realise what he pleads and exhort from us Anak-Anak Bangsa Malaysia.All praise to Tuhan and his will br done.
February 19, 2009 at 4:11 am
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February 19, 2009 at 4:11 am
Hi Haris, RPK, and all other well intentioned brethren who are considering fasting to the point where it affects your health:
While on the subject of Holy Messengers, I pose this question to all of you…what did the good Prophet Muhamad (PBUH) do when he learnt about the impending attack by his enemies?
Being fully responsible for the well-being of his followers, did he walk and wither away? Or pass the baton on to Hamza or Aly to carry on while facing possible annihilation? A BIG RESOUNDING NO!
Rather, he got SMART despite being outnumbered and out equipped. He led his very passive and faithful people by outsmarting his enenies! Built and disguised large and deep trenches in the Battle of Trenches to trap horses and soldiers on the attack kan? In another battle, he asked his followers to light up numerous bonfires to pretend they had a large, well heeled army!
So please look deep within yourselves, your conscience, search for that light that’s within you for God is “closer to you than your jugular vein” and don’t do anything to jeapordize your health, your ‘temple’ so to speak. All is not lost yet. Please use logic, your gift of ‘akal AND PLAY SMART. Let’s all do something just as effective in spreading the message, while not harming ourselves.
You’ve managed to create sympathy and publicity, now is the time think outside the box like the great Messengers, in the context of the 21st century. I just can’t accept that all our options are exhausted.
We are but mere followers. Wherefore art our inspiration if you, our heroes, go falling like flies?
February 19, 2009 at 4:21 am
Hmm, this is bad.
And very hard. Just think
of not eating any morsel at all.
Hmm.
And slowly starving very painfully to death.
And who will be IGP if RPK is no more?
Who will be here to go arrest
havoc-causing entities like loony SHA, P Arsewiper and other non-legal, brown-nosing or corrupt yuk yuk yukky entities when the
time comes soon for serving their tasty just desserts?
Appeal to RPK:
RPK, people’s pahlawan
please reconsider your highly noble decision not to eat any tasty, or not tasty, morsels at all and so slowly wither away and die defiantly in detention in nasty Kamunting if the UMNO-BN yukky baddies put you there.
What can the rakyat do for you, good RPK, to make you change your mind from this disastrous foodie-less course of action which will
deprive you of life maybe pointlessly, and the rakyat and nation of a good people’s pahlawan and future ass-kicking IGP?
The rakyat are all ears RPK so purrleese tell them how to
save you from potential lifelessness.
WE SAY YEAH! & NO TO ISA!
AND HARIS FOR AG & RPK/? FOR IGP! GO FOR DSAI FOR PM & LKS FOR DPM & KIND WAN AZIZAH FOR HOME MINISTER.
2009 Resolution: Seek out all garbage and recycle or dispose post haste for a healthier life and planet!
February 19, 2009 at 7:29 am
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February 19, 2009 at 7:41 am
May God bless this country….
February 19, 2009 at 8:11 am
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February 19, 2009 at 8:16 am
Dear Haris,
I am confident that through “Devine Intervention”, the “Opressors” will “FAIL” & Allah will ensure “Justice” will be done.
Have no fear, RPK, yourself including all the “Defenders of Truth, Justice, Freedom & Equality” will prevail, Insha’Allah.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
- Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
We must accept finite disappointment, but must never lose infinite hope.
- Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
True peace is not merely the absence of tension, it is the presence of justice.
- Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
We know through painful experience that freedom is never voluntarily given by the oppressor; it must be demanded by the oppressed.
- Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
May God bless, guide & protect this great nation, its remaining assets & its Anak Bangsa Malaysia forthwith.
Makkal Sakti.
February 19, 2009 at 8:46 am
Dear Haris
Only prayers can save RPK. Its better than fasting to death because if true leaders like RPK and you are gone, who will lead ? There are’nt many who are selfless in fighting for justice – there are only a handful of you. So RPK, Haris and others, please reconsider your decision for the good of the people and country. As I had also proposed in MT, we should all unite and pray at the same time – 9.00am Monday 23rd Feb. “Faith can move mountains” and if all of us have faith in God, I don’t see why our cry for justice would not be answered.
Cheers
February 19, 2009 at 8:49 am
Dear Haris and friends, please do not do what RPK intends to do if the supreme court overturns his release order.
If prominence members of civil society like you all are not around, there will be no hope for Malaysia, it will degrade into another Zimbabwe. We will have to wait for another 50 years for another opportunity for real change in this country..
As the Chinese proverb says ” Reserve the forest and you do not worry about lack of wood fuel “.
Please talk to Marina’s and her children to get RPK off this “fasting to the end ” idea.
Nelson Mandela spent 27 years in prison to fight apartheid ,Anwar Ibrahim vowed the same to champion reform and 13th GE is only 4 years away at the most, I am sure you guys will want to see the current federal government be booted out from Putrajaya.
February 19, 2009 at 9:09 am
RPK is going through a very deep spiritual journey. He is a righteous man and God is definitely on his side. RPK has to really believe from the bottom of his heart that God is with him. He has no right to look too deep into his future and come to such a conclusion . Death is not in his hand. ONLY GOD DECIDES WHEN WE SHOULD DIE. RPK has to surrender his predicament to God totally and then God will guide him on. It is too heavy for him to handle on his own. He must surrender it to God and totally believe in him. I TOTALLY DO NOT BELIEVE THAT HE WILL DIE IN KAMUNTING!!!!
GOD IS ON YOUR SIDE RPK . CLAIM IT!
LOVE YOU TAKE CARE
February 19, 2009 at 9:44 am
errr… dudes n dudettes – instead of talking The Man out of his death-wish, you are gonna join him ???!!!!
So in one single swipe, all you warriors be wiped out and all that has been fought for is kaput?
Come on mannn…step up the plate! FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT – do an RPK and fight the evil tooth and nail. YM RPK begun an awakening of all the sleeping giants who can and will win the war against injustice, corruption. The time has come for the Giants to take on the baton. If you warriors cannot fight side by side with RPK, at least fight for him.
AMAR MAARUF, NAHI MUNKAR !
February 19, 2009 at 9:48 am
If RPK goes off, there will be one thousand more “RPKs” created.
I do not want to see RPK go, but if he doesn’t change his mind, then who are we to tell him he is wrong?
Travel well.
February 19, 2009 at 9:54 am
Without the struggle for justice and freedom is going to be much more difficult. It would be a great setback and blow to the movement. If RPK stick to what he plans to do, it would be like playing into their hand and UMNO would be smiling from ear to ear.
RPK, you can do much more being alive than dead. You can do much more staying outside than inside.
Please consider the option of seeking political asylum if possible. Doing so doesn’t mean you are a quitter but rather you are continuing the struggle. You will actually do much more as it will draw international attention and pressure that it lacks now. Think of the sensational impact political asylum will bring when it’s flashed all over CNN, BBC etc.
On the other hunger strike to death may cause some short term sensation stir initially but it will die off eventually. It may even be interpreted as quitting on the part of RPK by some.
Please RPK, abort your plan and consider political asylum SERIOUSLY for you wife, children’s and Malaysia’s sake if not for your own sake!!!
February 19, 2009 at 9:57 am
Without RPK the struggle for justice and freedom is going to be much more difficult. It would ……………
February 19, 2009 at 9:57 am
RPK is no different from MSM.
At least MSM speak the truth.
They just censor what may hurt their political masters
February 19, 2009 at 9:58 am
When I think of RPK’s struggles, I can’t help but be reminded of Tunku Abdul Rahman, first PM and the man that represent the original ideal of this country. The similarities in their ideals is so similar and their willingness to put themselves on the line further than others.
The struggles of RPK is more than just about him or anti-BN, its really about what we want ideally. Giving up and losing is giving and losing for the highest ideals and possibilities of this country.
RPK can take consolation that at least historically, after Tunku, there will be him before anyone else. He is our Nelson Mandela, our Martin Luther King,
February 19, 2009 at 10:46 am
Haris,
You guys have my utmost respect, even from Day 1. Your passion and commitment is truly like no other.
I know you meant well when you quoted John 15:13, but as Christian pointed out, this would not be so appropriate.
I would however, liken RPK to Gandhi, for both have no qualms about sacrificing for the greater good……but I hope someone can talk sense to RPK…….we need him around……we can’t let the evil trolls of UMNO destroy all the good that’s left in this country……..
My prayers are with you guys!!
February 19, 2009 at 11:04 am
People, I have listened to all the outpourings of grief, disappointments, heart-breaks, and self-sacrifice and I have also witnessed the threat to self-immolate. To what end? We are living in irrational times and irrational times need more thinking men and not dead men. I know Pete as stubborn and not easily moved but I know that under normal circumstances HE deliberates every move he makes. I told him so. I told him that I do not agree with what he wrote. He wrote under great STRESS. His finger-tips were hot with raging anger. He gave up! But he would be the last person to ask anyone, “Come Die With Me.” So people, cut out the theatrics and heroics. Start thinking how best you as an individual can confront this crisis. Crisis in mandarin, means opportunity, I have often been reminded. Lets not over-react. Let the head rule the heart. Just take heart that Pete will never do anything if Marina disagrees. Take heart from that and lets get on with the work in hand. Give Kee Thuan Chye’s comment another reading.
February 19, 2009 at 11:20 am
Let us know what to do,Bro Harris
But,one thing for sure,we MUST pray for him!
I have Faith we’ll prevail victoriously!!
February 19, 2009 at 11:24 am
Dear Haris,
I am shattered with this whole ordeal since Monday. Our courts, the people, the system…..its all so corrupted and senseless. Right now, it looks like everyone has more or less predicted the verdict and just waiting for these people in power to spill it out. Soon,we will be having the most corrupted man in Malaysia leading the nation. I am feeling hopeless and helpless and right now I can only turn myself to God, praying that RPK will not have to endure the injustice and cruelty of ISA. FREE RPK!
February 19, 2009 at 11:40 am
Dear Haris,
I leave you and others with some wise words to reflect as well as to ponder on…..
Secretarinism, bigotry and it’s horrible descendant, fanaticism, have long possesed this beautiful Earth.
They have filled the Earth with violence, drenched it often with human blood, destroyed civilization, and sent whole nations to despair.
Had it not been for these horrible demons , human society would be far more advanced than it is now.
But their time is come; and I fervently hope that the bell that tolled this morning in honour of this convention, may be the death knell of all fanaticism, of all persecutions with the sword or with the pen, and of all uncharitable feelings between persons wending their way to the same goal.
Swami Vivekananda at the Chicago convention on 09/11/1893
February 19, 2009 at 11:43 am
HARIS,
I thoughtin one of your previous postings,You mentioned RPK said we must think N act CUNNING ?
What happens to all our brains ? We must find some courage n sly plans to fight till we WIN!!!
Appeal to CJ (even though he is zaki ),PM,SULTANS n AGONG,let the whole world know that what happened in the Federal Court was not fair !
Paul augustine went behind the screen,2 judges form a “quorum”in FEDERAL COURT,declare “no basis”to
recuse paul,
out come paul, joined the 2 to make quorum of 3 again
next we hear is “dismiss”,”dismiss”
look like CONSPIRACY before hand!
are we really so short of judges that no other 3 may be found to give a fair hearing?
what is the rush? RPK is not a killer or murderer,
RPK does not endanger anyone’s life
why appeal against setting free of RPK instead of murder suspect baginda razak?
Can we complain about all these to the world……?
Meanwhile i think RPK should seek shelter(palace?),
avoid arrest n keep on guiding Malysians until we succeed.
Come on,don’t abandon the cause now,we need your leadership,all of you!
and i know u can all do it,because all us
anak-anak Bangsa Malaysia
LOVE MALAYSIA !!!
February 19, 2009 at 11:57 am
Harris,
You a just a GEM!!! Love you bro…God be with you
February 19, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Bro,
Life is too precious. It’s God given.
We define our lives as to how we live it.
Intending death prematurely does not get us closer to our goals when we have not done the best we can.
I know you meant well when confronting RPK with your own ‘death wish’ thus am hopeful that he would recognise your ‘dare’.
The good fight still awaits us and the People’s Voice must be heard.
I expect more from the persons who launched the People’s Declaration. Let’s bring it to fruition.
February 19, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Dear Haris,
I have just finished reading all the comments and went back to your sept 2008 article…I am feeling very guilty now and I (speaking for myself only) must admit that I, too, have misrepresented myself.I do not know how to make it right!!!
February 19, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Haris and RPK, fasting till death cannot be found anywhere in Islam, in achieving success. I know RPK is againts being a hypocrite, but killing oneself by any means is the characteristic of a hypocrite.
I have never in my life read any stories of the prophets (may Allah be please with them all) that would come close to the act of killing themselves. Even prophet Jonah, who was thrown into the sea, undress himself before being thrown to signify his will to live.
Haris and RPK, know that Allah is in control over all things. When He decrees a matter; be, and it is. Both of you are not agents of change. Allah’s Will will decide the changes. You strive for success, and pray that Allah will accept your effort.
In Islam, striving for Allah’s mercy is far better than any good deeds that you can do. Do all the good deeds for Allah, and to Him only.
p/s: it’s easy to say that all that we do is for Allah, but question your intentions all the time if you are sincerely doing this for Allah or for worldly gain.
February 19, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Hi Haris
Both you guys RPK and You are our inspiration.the live wires..so do not talk about negatives. We need to transfer whatever good courage we have on to him. Nearly Everyone talks as if it will be the end….no, we are going to strive, to seek to find and not yield….we look upon both of you as our beacons, otherwise we would not take up the torch for all Malaysians to live free.
Sure some of us will do what you two are talking about..but why plan what is not inevitable…God gave us tenacity and the will to overcome evil…let’s talk about winning…our positive vibes will bring RPK into the clear and expose the truth
I read your breakfast chat and was so impressed that you quoted John.shows the expanse in your thinking…”Greater love…..” it is a beautiful thought, but we must not allow that to overtake the miles that RPK has already travelled in search of truth. He and you have been planted there to propagate the truth so please, carry on….
February 19, 2009 at 1:28 pm
some of you are missing the point.
The objective NOW is to “STOP RPK”.
If i’m not wrong.. Haris is NOT matyring himself, nor “joining” RPK… but as a friend who vows to fast, if RPK does what he said he would… hoping to Stop RPK from doing it.
delcapo,
You are absolutely spot on.
February 19, 2009 at 1:28 pm
“Without God, man cannot. With man, God will not.” …John Wesley.
So let us fast and pray for RPK’s hearing on Monday.
“For the effective fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.” … James 5:16
February 19, 2009 at 1:29 pm
All you bonkers ! Wasting time on slandering !!!!
February 19, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Here is something that always comes to mind:I submit this in Dedication to our heros and champions.of human rights..RPK & HI & Others….
The woods are lovely dark and deep
And I have promises to keep
And miles to go before I sleep….
Life is real, life is earnest and the grave is not its goal….
February 19, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Ini bukan untuk RPK…
Melayu Yang Mati Katak Itu
February 19, 2009 at 2:08 pm
MR.RPK,
Whatever decisions you take ,we know we can’t change your mind.JUST THINK FOR A MOMENT!!. IF YOU GO,THEN THE BLOGGING COMMUNITY WILL NOT HAVE A PILLAR AS STRONG AS YOU.YOU HAVE EASILY GIVEN UP TO THEIR VICTORY THROUGH THEIR DECEIT AND TREACHERY.MADE THEIR LIFE EASIER AND THEY HAVE TO FEAR OF NO ONE ANYMORE, NOT EVEN THE SULTANS.CHANCES ARE OUR INTERNET BLOGGING WILL BE CURBED BY THEM. THE WEAKLINGS LIKE US WILL BE FURTHER DENIED OUR RIGHTS. I KNOW YOU WILL BE SAYING THAT WE SHOULD STAND UP FOR OUR OWN. BUT YOU KNOW THEY FEAR YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE THE BACKING OF THE PEOPLE AT LARGE AND A WIDE NETWORK OF INFORMATION TO CHECK AGAINST INJUSTICE TO US.I PERSONALLY HAVE EVEN THOUGHT OF YOU TO BE THE RIGHT PERSON TO BE IN CHARGE OF ACA. BUT GO AHEAD AND KILL YOURSELF AND LET YOUR FAMILY AND US IN A LURCH. ALL I CAN SAY YOU ARE UNTELLIGENT IN YOUR DECISION.( Because I have so much of respect for you I don’t even want to use the word st…. on you.)JUST CONSIDER THIS FORA MOMENT.
February 19, 2009 at 2:31 pm
Sorry to say that you & RPK are not the “Towering Malays” simply becoz you two indeed “Towering Malaysians”
I am very proud of what you guys fighting for future generation known as generation X, and generation Y.
Pls keep fighting the battle and win the war alive !.
February 19, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Yo people,
You are all over-reacting here! Take it easy – all is not lost yet. Look at the writing on the wall — its end of days for BN and the Sultanate … of that there is no doubt. We will get rid of these robbers and gangsters yet! And we will all live happily ever after!
So, just hang in there!
February 19, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Dear RPK,
Here is my view on this. BN wanted to get rid of RPK in whatever ways.
RPK wanted to fight the regime by using passive resistence non-violence. RPK had done it before and willing to do it again. This time he is ready to die.
My questions to RPK?
You have set your target to fight the regime. You are willing to pay the price. You are ready.You ready or not someday it will all come to an end. It will not matter what your grudges, resentments, frustrations, and jealousies or ideal. It will finally disappear.
Your grudges, resentments, frustrations, and jealousies will finally disappear.
My question to you is if you die, so what?
The wins and losses that once seemed so important to you will fade away. You want to encouraged others to emulate your example. So what?
Your life is from god and not from UMNO. So what?
UMNO is more powerful than God? UMNO is greater than the love of your life? Fighting UMNO is more important than looking into your own heart.
Where is the greatest turmoil in the world? There’s no greater turmoil than the one in the heart. If we talk about things murky and turbid, there’s nothing more murky and turbid than the heart. There’s nothing at all that can compare with the heart in being troubled and pained. Even fire, which is said to be hot, isn’t
nearly as hot as the heart aflame with the power of ignorance.
You may decide that you would rather put an end to it all.This is because you’re so disgusted and fed up with life. And all of this is because the heart is very murky and dark, to the point where it becomes a smouldering fire.
Purify your heart. Polish the heart every day. Polish it every day. When the heart is polished every day, it’s bound to shine. And when the heart is shining, you’re bound to see your reflection, just as when water
is clear you can see clearly whatever plants or animals are there in the water.
Take pain and the heart as your battlefield.
Investigate them so as to see their truth. No matter how great the pain may be, it doesn’t go past death. Pain goes only as far as death.
Dear RPK,
Please. Please cleanse your heart.
February 19, 2009 at 3:30 pm
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February 19, 2009 at 3:50 pm
ohh RPK.. u make my day.. u r the one..
i will always love u..
February 19, 2009 at 4:00 pm
In every democracy that desrves any measure of respect, a selfless ombudsman such as RPK will surely be appreciated by all and not prosecuted by the regime of the day.
In prosecuting RPK, the BN/UMNO regime has proven to all of us that this beloved land is really heading towards regression.
February 19, 2009 at 4:06 pm
10 things i hate about RPK..
I hate the way you blogging,
And the way you cut your hair.
I hate the way you drive my soul,
I hate it when you stare.
I hate your big dumb hat.
And the way you read my mind.
I hate you so much it makes me sick,
It even makes me rhyme.
I hate the way you’re always right,
I hate it when you lie.
I hate it when you make me laugh,
Even worse when you make me cry
I hate it when you’re not around,
And the fact that you didn’t blog,
But mostly I hate the way I don’t hate you,
Not even close…
Not even a little bit…
Not even at all.
February 19, 2009 at 7:49 pm
This reminds me of the classic movie “SPARTACUS” starring Kirk Douglas in the lead role.
Spartacus, a slave and gladiator lead a slave revolt against the might of the Roman Empire to free all slaves.
In the end he was defeated and together with thousands of his men, captured.
In one of the most moving scene in the history of cinematography, the victorious Roman general Crassus rode out to the captured multitude amidst the wooden crosses put along the Appian way, Crassus promised amnesty to anyone of the captured slaves who would point out Spartacus or die hanging on the crosses.
Spartacus was about to stand up when a slave chained beside him stood up and declared “I AM SPARTACUS”, suddenly the entire 6,000 captured men stood out declaring “I AM SPARTACUS” in unison ( I was moved to tears during that scene). They were all died on the crucifixes along the via Appia.
Are we going to stand up and declare ” I AM RPK” and accompany him to Kamunting?
February 20, 2009 at 1:16 am
Bro. Haris and RPK,
Its such a relief to be assured that you both will press on the struggle for a future nation of dignity where its peoples can walk with heads lifted up. Malaysia has to become a nation with leaders of integrity, with divinely-guided values steering it to greater heights of spiritual and emotionally fulfilled and meaningful life.
ITS CERTAINLY NOT OVER …in fact its only the beginning. The right thinking and God-fearing amongst us will be with you until ITS OVER.
Keep up this positive and unwavering spirit of hope, always having the vision of a .heavenly. state before us.
Its going to be a holy pilgrimage to achieve a a beatiful Malaysia enjoying justice, peace, righteousness, unhindered freedom of worship and prosperity. We are confident that God …”walks in the midst of your camp to deliver you and give your enemies over to you. Therefore your camp may be holy, that He may see no unclean thing among you, and turn away fro you” (Deut.23:14).
Let all supporters be at PUTRA JAYA come Monday in His presence.
Takr good rest in Him till then and God bless you and your families.
February 20, 2009 at 1:45 am
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February 20, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Dear Haris,
reading this post brought tears to my eyes. i have read it 3 times and tears all these 3 times.
the country, the rakyat, anak bangsa malaysias are so blessed to have people like you & RPK who are so much for justice and the country.
i fervently pray that the ‘fast to the end’ will never ever see the light of day here.
February 23, 2009 at 12:18 am
Hi Harris,
Let Pete know that there is one more added to the handful that will fast till the end with him, until he decides to keep us all alive together!