Beng Hock’s family has spoken.
Yes, they want to know the truth.
Yes, they want a Royal Commission of Inquiry.
However, they’ve also asked that Beng Hock’s death not be politicised.
Both sides of the political divide must respect their wishes.
That means don’t make this young man’s death a political football, to score goals against political opponents.
I attended the memorial at Kelana Jaya yesterday silently hoping that this wish of a family in mourning would be honoured.
I have to say that I heard speeches that payed scant regard to this simple request.
Not many, but even one is too many.
Sad.
Must politicians always look to make political mileage in every issue that crops up?
Can we not come together as we did yesterday at the stadium to just do what is right, without looking to score points?
Can we not demand to know the truth about Beng Hock’s death, without more?
Soon after I arrived at the stadium, and before I had a chance to listen to the speeches, PKR treasurer William Leong came up to speak to me.
I told him that if the memorial at the stadium and the convoy to accompany Beng Hock’s remains to its final resting place today is not just a case of Pakatan seizing the opportunity, brought on by the circumstances surrounding Beng Hock’s death, to hammer away at BN, we would expect the four Pakatan state governments to continue to hold these weekend memorials in stadiums in their respective states until the BN authorities give in and allow for the appoint of the Royal Commission, with terms of reference and composition that will us in no doubt as to its independence.
Then I heard the speeches. You can read about them in the Malaysianinsider and Malaysiakini.
And I heard Guan Eng make a promise to take a campaign through the country to force the government to appoint the Royal Commission.
I’m all for this, and I’m going to badger Guan Eng’s office to honour his word to the crowd gathered at Kelana Jaya yesterday, but only if they will strictly honour the family’s wishes.
If they can’t, then don’t bother.
The crowd yesterday?
Malaysiakini puts it at more than 3,000.
I think that’s about right.
Which brings me to my next question.
Where were the rest of you?
Couldn’t bring yourselves to give up you Sunday siesta?
splim
July 20, 2009
We must not only ask how did Beng Hock died. We must also ask why did he had to die.
His death is the proof that Malaysia is a failed nation. This happens when institutions of law and governance are being misused to perpetuate the power of the ruling elites and when the ordinary people no longer trust these institutions.
As much as we want to respect the family wishes, we can’t run away from politicizing it. I don’t think Pakatan need to do very much to score political points. Their opponents are already scoring many own goals.
Leaving aside the question of who actually killed Beng Hock, he would still be alive today if he didn’t walk into the MACC building that day. That came about because of the blatant political persecution of Pakatan’s ADUNs by the MACC.
So I don’t really understand when people say don’t politicize the issue. The whole tragedy is about politics.
Matteo
July 20, 2009
If a politician makes a negative statement regarding a government institution how cannot it be a political statement?
If politician speak out against abuses and misdeeds by such an institution how cannot it be a political statement?
Are politicians suppose to be silent?
If the politicians does not speak out who should?
Why do we elect them in the first place.
If the government fears negative political statements shouldn’t they stop abuses and corrupted practices?
The citizens are angry and UMNO people are angry because people are angry?
tmf
July 20, 2009
Yes, where arwe the rest os us? Get to Nirwana Memorial Park or wait along Plus highway ready to join the funeral procession from Alor Gajah to the memorial park in Semenyih to pay out last respect.Please join us so that Beng Hock’s tragic death will not be in vain.
Littlebird
July 20, 2009
One alleged thief Kugan and one so called suspect Teoh. See how differently the politicians and Malaysian react. 1Malaysia(n) – me think is still far away. We are still chained to racial and economic prejudices.
Pratamad
July 20, 2009
And can you believe it that Utusan can even squeeze further mileage from its racist reporting agenda? It is the ultimate sadness that we feel for Beng Hock’s tragic death. I do not know how those people who continue to write behind Utusan find peace in their sleep.
Charlotte
July 20, 2009
I thought it would’ve been better if those who were given a chance to speak, spoke about Beng Hock himself – his characteristics and mannerisms.
AND also talk about the standard operating procedures during such a questioning. Get at least a qualified doctor and/or lawyer to talk about these things, instead of hitting the BN in every speech. Leave the rakyat with something harder to chew on upon leaving the stadium.
Though, I’d like to make mention that Nik Nazmi did share about Beng Hock’s personal character. Only 1 out of 10 speakers? Most to most, 2 out of 10…
Patriot
July 20, 2009
How to distinguish between what need to be done and politicizing? The nation need to know the truth. The nation need to bring to justice those responsible. The nation need to ensure no repeat. All these need citizens to put pressure on the government of the day. Fortunately or unfortunately the people who are in the position to do so are politicians. So when they apply pressure for a Royal Commission, are they politicizing the issue or are they just doing what justice demand?
Answer me Harris
KaKiaYam
July 20, 2009
Haris,
kelana jaya stadium is seriously not a convenient place to be in. I am pretty sure, most of those who were there, stays around PJ area and drives their own car. In addition to that, the announcement came too late and I guess people are getting tired with all these rally and speeches.
I got tired when Khalid Ibrahim started to speak, and went back (which is towards the end of the rally). Personally, we were there so that we could show our support for the cause and make up the numbers. We think that is important, whether or not there will be good speeches or otherwise.
Like you, i hope that the DAP will not politicised the matter, and that PR will somehow facilitate the public in showing their disgust and anger towards the authority in their handling of the case.
Honestly i think those leaders who made speeches, need to take lessons in making good ones. They sound too shallow and does not really express their heartfelt sadness. But this is only my personal opinion lar….
I think the selangor Speaker made a good speech. Was surprise with his fluency in bahasa.
Finally, good to see you there.
KaKiaYam
Patriot
July 20, 2009
I remembered what Edward Ling (PA Hannah Yeoh) said at No to ISA candlelight vigil at MBPJ some time back when he described his disappointment over the difficulties in getting his friends involved, them saying no politics please. Edward Ling asked. Is the petrol prices etc. politics? Yes because the petrol prices are determined by politicians. If even this everyday issue is politics, how to avoid politics?
constalam
July 20, 2009
The problem of this nation is because it is governed by an evil destructive regime, umno led by evil men who behave as men possessed by the devil. Every evil you can think of including murder, is perpetuated. Thats why life is cheap for them. The few good ones couldnt, wouldnt or refused to do anything to stop their wicked deeds.
ICE
July 20, 2009
You cannot separate politics from daily life after all politicians are handpicked by the rakyat to speak on behalf of them of issues that crop up from time to time….If politicians don’t talk about custodial death then who else? If the BN, MACC or the police do not want the rakyat or the politicians to talk then they should of followed establish principles of law in investigation and prevent untowards incidents….I see that the BN is actually using their executive powers to silence the rakyat.
Patriot
July 20, 2009
A lot of what you and People’s Parliament involves politics even if you yourself is not a politician. So what exactly is politicizing and how not to politicize when we have to deal with political issues?
Leong Yook Kong
July 20, 2009
Until this very hour, we have yet to hear that the Royal Commission is appointed. Will the government confirm the appointment of the Royal Commission soonest? The answer is either a YES or a NO only.
Bigjoe
July 20, 2009
The fact of the matter is politicisation of Teohs’ death is UNAVOIDABLE. This is something the parents don’t get it. Teoh WAS a politician. BN is a political animal unlike any other, its member live and breath it like oxygen – they have little else. They were way ahead of politicising this before anyone else.
In addition, BN is already guilty politically firstly because the root of this is their political system (why is Teoh being investigated in the first place?). After Teoh’s death, the machinery when into full swing from a political point of view first and foremost.
How to avoid the politics? The parents of Teoh don’t understand it, but you don’t get it is dissapointing. True many apathetically did not show up but its also because its political many did not show up.
This is political but for the right reason. It must be political not only because if not for politics, Teoh would not be dead AND in addition, only by politics can justice be served.
Lizzie wong
July 20, 2009
Teoh died because of politics.
Much as he did not wish to be involved, since he was reported to be quitting shortly as the ADUN’s political secretary. Still, there was no escape for him.
In the final moments before he breathed his last, what do you think teoh wants. Buisiness as usual? 308 change agenda? Would he be offended if his death, just as altantuya’s death, be used as a battle cry to open the eyes of the blind in beautiful & harmonious 1Malaysia?
HOw does one define politicking. If the issue is brought up by PR politicians, does it make it politicking. If PR does not take it up, who would? If PR leaves it to civil society to pressure the govt, what would we say of PR…
Please don be so harsh on PR. BN has enough help as it is.
OneRepublic
July 20, 2009
Haris, I used to go for Pakatan rallies and candlelight vigils, but over the past months I have gotten fed-up with Pakatan because they seem more interested in politics than governance. Teoh Beng Hock case is one example, another example is revenge against Khir Toyo.
We all know UMNO and BN are corrupt, but what we really want is good governance from Pakatan, in Pakatan controlled-states. We want prices of electricity to come down. We want food prices to be stable instead of going up every few months. Pakatan talks a lot but not much action. For me, I’m beginning to think that Pakatan will be no different from BN if they come to federal power.
As has been said, GE13 is Pakatan’s to lose and the way they are going now… For sure, they are losing the support of people like me, who used to support them passionately.
Focus on serving the people, and not on dirty politics – right now, I cannot differentiate between BN and Pakatan politicians.
And where is RPK? Why run away like a coward, after we have all supported you at vigils and through petitions? Gandhi never ran away. Martin Luther King never ran away.
wishediwaswrong
July 20, 2009
RPK’s in town wearing a skirt.
garfieldcity
July 20, 2009
Do you think PR can govern in peace. Dream on. As long as PR is not the Federal Government, don’t blame them yet. Just like people say ‘let me be King and I will slay all evil’. Reserve your judgement.
Bessy
July 20, 2009
Initially, I was appalled at what seemed to be opportunist politicians who’d grab this chance to politicize the issue. Not just any issue, but the unfortunate death of a young man.
But the fact remains that Teoh Beng Hock died under political circumstances, a victim of political suppression.
As the above commentator summarized it aptly: This whole tragedy is about politics.
Peter
July 20, 2009
Is expressing anger political?
eagle
July 20, 2009
Whatever it is he died due to his political affiliation. Like it or not it has to be that way.
Political persecution must be countered with political manuever and those responsible for must be taken to task.
Malaysians know it and when they don’t respect GOD given life, anak Bangsa Malaysia must wake up. It is too much and it has to stop.
Sam
July 20, 2009
What is the meaning of “politicize”?
Knowing BN and its media, what do you expect Pakatan leaders to do. How to call for a RCI? How to seek answers?
The cover up is glaring.
Come on friend, this is a political killing, no ifs no buts. It happened on the course of a silent plan to topple the Selangor Govt, the paint its leaders as corrupt and MACC was the tool to arrive at that verdict.
Now, a political party worth its salt will have to speak up. What language it uses will be deemed political.
Now you tell me, what should Pakatan have done? Just stand before the coffin and cry?
New Malaysian
July 20, 2009
And why should this not be politicised, Haris?
And what is meant by politicising this anyway?
It seems a convenient call by the IGP because his ass is on fire! MACC of course would want this not to be polticised. Was MACC being apolitical in investigating a slew of Pakatan politicians? Is the PDRM apolitical? Is the Judiciary apolitical, for that matter?
Coming back to my first question, it is not a question that can be answered to satisfaction to all parties. The very definition is murky.
Calling the authorities to be investigated is not polticising this episode; calling for a Royal Commission is not polticising this; asking for answers and the truth is not politicising this….
It all depends on your perspective, I suppose…….
New Malaysian
Malaysian
July 20, 2009
“In this context, none should be so naïve as not to recognise that Teoh is the victim of political persecution, the latest in a series of hardly concealed acts of subversion and sabotage against Pakatan Rakyat (PR) since the Mar 8, 2008 election exposed UMNO’s precarious political future.” (Thousands say goodbye to Teoh
Phua Kai Lit
July 20, 2009
Dear Encik Haris
Could it be that (at least some of the) people were so upset that they could not restrain their anger while making their speeches?
colimac
July 20, 2009
harris what’swrong with guan eng’s ststement? with the bn people the only way out is to crush them under the chains of bulldozer and even with that we may not be able to the bare truth.guan eng is only showing his anger with what has happen aren’t you angry harris/
TYKo
July 20, 2009
Dear Haris,
I was there, with my wife, brother in law, and 2 friends.
Others chicken out when we asked them to join us although they were the most vocal in kopitiam etc.
I expect more too. I was hoping for 30,000 not 3,000.
Most of them were just good in talking and come to walk the talk, they are scare.
Unless we learn to face the fear, things would not change. How are we going to educate Rakyat that they have and must FACE the fear and not suppress by fear?
garfieldcity
July 20, 2009
Spot on. Just like a road leading to the peak. Everybody wants to use it but nobody wants to help build it.
dbctan
July 20, 2009
I’m not sure how to respond to your comment, Haris. I’m not sure I know how to handle this delicate issue myself. But I think a certain ‘tension’is to be expected between respecting the family’s request (private grief?) and the present reality (public outrage?). Teoh was a political assistant; he joined a political party because he believed it was the way to take to contribute to change in the country; and he died in the course of his duty.
The party he represented and the Pakatan coalition he was a part of are right to take umbrage first as friends and colleagues, and secondly, as political parties that needed to address a politically charged tragedy.
After all, the tragedy is not merely a disconnected incident without a larger context. That context is also political, which by and large and for better or worse, is synonymous with the public square.
Outreach
July 20, 2009
All Malaysians are OUTRAGED!!!First with the death of PPSMI and now with the death of Beng Hock. Is this 1Malaysia supposed to be??Angered and frustrate the people with all these intimidation and the death of democracy in human rights and people choice of education?? The successors of Tun have turned our beloved beautiful multiculture, multi racial & multi lingual country UPSIDE DOWN!!! – OUTRAGED!! WHERE IS JUSTICE & DEMOCRACY?? CORRUPT POWER RULES NOT JUSTICE RULES IN MALAYSIA.
umar rentaka
July 20, 2009
I was in another funeral
Crystal
July 20, 2009
Sad to say, Malaysia, has almost everything under control of politic. All Malaysia’s money are roller party’s money? Look at what happen when Penang change party? Penang’s money all gone, same goes to Selangor case.
When money is taking charge… & when these money are under control of one political party, think of what will happen??
There are bigger corrupters which already an open secret to Malaysian, why aren’t these people go & investigate them?
Many politician accept so call LEGAL Commission from all kinds of projects in Malaysia, most Malaysian are able to name a few, & why no action is being taken?
This is what happen when money roles, & this will happen when money are in control of one party.
garfieldcity
July 20, 2009
May I add on. A political party is just like a corporate company, it has no life like a human being. It only comes to life when it is stuffed by a management (people). Just like a beautiful country, it can turn ugly when it is not properly taken care of. Blame on people’s actions, not a lifeless thing.
dmh1876
July 20, 2009
Dear Splim,
There is so many possibility as to the cause of his fall but to think MACC is directly involved in the fall is beyond comprehension and the easiest thing to do is blame MACC and the Gov.
In reality to me one possbility that the majority of the people refuse to consider or accept is that he’s the author of his own misfortune.
Think rationally and dont be clouded by your emotion to the extend that you your self could not think straight
dannicash
July 20, 2009
Agree! One cannot just people just like that, and of course a thorough investigation must be set up.
Justice for all!
ktteokt
July 20, 2009
What’s more Beng Hock is in politics itself, being the assistant to a states assemblyman. So how not to associate him with politics? How not to politicize the issue! Muhi talks rots!!!!!!
The Whisperer
July 20, 2009
Bro,
I don’t think the politicians were there to seek mileage. They were there to call for justice to be served.
But you are right about the crowd. Disappointing as it fell below my expectation. I was expecting two-folds of what we had yesterday.
Salute to all who came!!
garfieldcity
July 20, 2009
The youngest attendee award should go to the less than 2-year-old toddler who was having a good time on the field under the watchful eyes of the mother. My belief is there is no need for a 100k-strong attendance in a stadium. To deliver, you either vote PR into Parliament with a 2/3 majority or IF you could gather a 1million-strong people-power march to Putrajaya.
anonymous dud
July 20, 2009
3000 / 25,000,000, that makes < 1% and using Nazri analogy, majority malaysians believe in MACC and opposition are spinning hatred. you need 100,000 in the rally next time..
whatmeworry
July 20, 2009
Yes, the whole damn thing is about politics and why some don’t bother turning up at the stadium … typical Malaysian attitude … tidak apa … until it really affects someone closed to them then only will they react.
Admiral Tojo
July 20, 2009
The MACC was instructed to harass the Pakatan Rakyats ADUNs. Who gave this order??? They stole PERAK through unconstitutional means, against the wishes of the people. Now they are trying to steal Selangor using the MACC. MACC or SPRM (Suruhanjaya Pembunuh Rakyat Malaysia as I call them now) is a tool of UMNO, indoctrinated by the BTN. They are answerable to the PM’s department. Yet, the hypcrite dare send a wreath to the family of Beng Hock. The cheek of it all.
They have acted against the people who voted the Selangor ADUNs in the State Government. So far, they have not taken action against Khir Toyo and the people behind the PKFZ scandal. WHY????
Najib will have to answer. In Japan, Jibby would have committed hara kiri, but then again hara kiri is for the noble, which jibby is not.
Shalom
Thomas Mok
July 20, 2009
I was there. I was disappointed with the turn out. I was expecting bigger crowd but then, given the short notice, I think it was ok.
I wish I had the chance to meet you though.
I managed to record part of the speeches. I have to say that despite the political nature of it, I think there is no two way about it because otherwise, how else to get the message across?
I would also like to state that I am pleasantly surprised that many of our speakers, spoke very well in Malays and English and special mention to the Selangor State Assembly Speaker for one of the best, understated speech. I have uploaded his speech in my blog (www.tmithomas.blogspot.com)
I just want to share some valid questions raised in his speech with readers who were not there and also share the speech of one politician who rarely got mentioned, hahaha. I hoped you don’t mind, Mr Haris.
splim
July 20, 2009
dmh1876
I suggest that you go to Teoh Beng Hock’s grave tonight and tell him that you think there is possibility that he is the author of his own misfortune and putting the blame on MACC is beyond comprehension.
Maybe he will tell you what actually happened. Then you come back and share with us so that we can get the facts right and not be so clouded by our emotions. Will you do that for some of us who so irrational?
esse
July 20, 2009
Teoh was a DAP and PKR man, and he died in the course of his duties as such. Wouldn’t it be natural for the DAP and PKR leaders to be at the forefront calling in anger and urgency for answers to a sudden/suspicious death of their own member/comrade/staff in the course of an investigation which is obviously a political persecution of their parties? Teoh didn’t just belong to his family or fiancee; he belonged to PKR and to us all in the family of Anak-anak Bangsa Malaysia. His sad and untimely death will be in vain if we just grieve for him as a young man and do not let that grief and anger move us to act to move forward the ABM agenda.
I was there and did not find the speeches untoward, although I admit that perhaps some colleague/s who knew Teoh personally could have said more about him as a person to help us get to know him. Perhaps those who really knew him were not there but were at his home with his family in Alor Gajah, leaving those of us there at the Stadium who did not know him personally before. We do not need to have known him to grieve and mourn for his death, or feel anger and rage at the way he had been interrogated and the responses of the authorities to the whole affair.
Kalambong
July 20, 2009
To Haris,
You ask
“Where were the rest of you?
Couldn’t bring yourselves to give up you Sunday siesta?”
My answer
I ain’t gonna attend any function where el-cheapo politicians like Lim Guan Eng gives speech
I do give respect to the dead, but I will NEVER be used by Lim Guan Eng for his cheap shot
Kalambong
July 20, 2009
One more thing, Haris,
I do not trust bijan, on the other hand I don’t trust Lim Guan Eng more
Lim Guan Eng only know one thing — scoring political points, and whatever he is involved turned into a political thingy, witness the Kampung Pala incident in Penang if you don’t believe
Hussin Yusof
July 20, 2009
Teo Beng Hock was an active member of Malaysian Politics. I can bet that he would want his death to further the political agenda that he so fought for in his life.
Sometimes, families don’t understand oneself. In this case, I rather respect Teo’s wishes. which is for a democratic Malaysia.
OneRepublic is barking up the wrong tree. The changes you want made can never be possible without the federal government being in PR control. Electricity and food prices, all federal.
Its our responsibility to ensure that next general election, There will be changes. you can give up if you want. Not me.
sampalee
July 20, 2009
Good to know the truth behind a death.Do not stop there and proceed to investigate to know the Truth about life itself.Be fully aware of the oneness of all and the absolute umity of Tuhan and ALL beings and non-beings.With that home is where peace IS.
Vinod
July 20, 2009
I was there at the KJ gathering but was not screaming Reformasi or anything else.I was quiet all the way as for some reason there was sense of helplessness and anger that engulffed me.
All of us may continue debating whether it is a political matter or not but the way I see it, it is our fault. Yes, our fault! His death was our fault! Why is it our fault? It is because we Malaysians are flat out selfish cowards who think ” as long as it is not my family or friend and I have food on my table, who cares?”
The crowd yesterday was not something to be proud of…it was pathetic to the core. Mere 3K..
Sorry Haris for my emotional rantings here but I think another couple of months Malaysians will forget his death just like Kugan’s death. Come next GE all the coffee shop heroes wanna-be will leave their balls at home and vote for BN all the way. Some may not even turn up to vote anyway..
Mahi Ramakrishnan
July 20, 2009
I think we have to strike a fine balance here. The family wants a royal commission of inquiry, yes. But they do not want political speeches lambasting the ruling government over various issues. I agree with Haris. The family’s wishes must be respected. I am a TV journalist and work for a foreign station. I have seen a total disregard for the family’s wishes outside the MACC building and at the Kelana Jaya stadium. Please do not get me wrong -issues raised are crucial but these were not the avenue to talk about them, that is if one wants to abide by Teoh Beng Hock’s family’s wishes.
lizziewong
July 20, 2009
Teoh’s death is not a private matter. It affects every citizen of the country.
We grieve together with the family. The place for respect for the family’s wishes must surely be confined to their private space, the privacy of their home, their mourning, their private grieving. Obviously none of the family members shld be expected to participate in whatever activities or protests that PR or any civil group wishes to stage. That I totally agree.
If to politicise this is wrong since you said it is against the family’s wishes, do I take it that we shall wait for the next victim whose family is open to the idea of this so called politicising before we can politicise the issue?
Just as some people say they are tired of the bickering, etc of the PR, I am equally tired of people who are putting so much expectations on PR. It is as though, BN is evil, they don play by the rules, they will always be bad, and we accept it. But not PR, they are supposed to the opposite, the good, the righteous, so lets make them live up to that. with supporters like us, even without the antics of BN, PR would still not win GE13.
Is Rome built in a day?
What is our alternative? Stick with BN?
If any of you think sticking with BN is not going to work, and if you think PR is doing so badly, I suggest you get involved. Join PKR or PAS or DAP, and serve! Better still, offer your service as the next ADUN or MP.
MADEinPERAK
July 20, 2009
Why is this not a political problem? First & foremost , why is MACC selective prosecution just on Pakatan Rakyat folks in Selangor?
Why is others particulary the UMNO corrupted goons escape from all this ordeal.
It is this, that the Pakatan Rakyat raised anger on…its Death Under Custody. Thats big problem its political motivated.
CHIA Chin Yau
July 20, 2009
Haris,
Politician being politician speaks nothing but politics, they even fart politically.
We should look at the facts:
1. there were thousands died in the Authority’s custody in the past years, including Kugan.
2. The way MACC handles the case, claiming that TBH’s death is nothing to do with them (What MACC implies? Act of God? Blame God again?
3.If this is not a political issue, I wonder why MACC not acting high profile on Balinese Palace or PKFZ of which review report is readily available, and instead hunting for RM2,400 state allocation that ONE MAN DIED?
4. If it is not political, why should Nazri jumped out and shouted that TBH jumped himself?
5. If not political, why MACC not report to Police at the very hour it happened? If it is TBH who decided to jump then someone would surely know about it, else MACC cannot even guard their own house, how can we expect them to do their job?
6. If not political, right minded murderer will remove the body from the scene or have it destroyed (with C4?) instead of letting it there. Only those who are confident that the death will not cost them a leg and an arm will leave the body there to be discovered later.
Btw, is Kugan being politicised? where is justice for Kugan and the thousands died?
Johan
July 20, 2009
Kalambong, I’m sure you’re able to let your compassion and sadness over TBH’s death overcome your hatred for Lim Guan Eng and show up in solidarity?
Yow Chuan
July 20, 2009
Yes, we all went to the stadium to demand the truth.
Why all these twisting and spinning?
And for those who didn’t turn up, and are reading this now, I hope you would start spreading awareness about this issue.
I know some might feel offended but innocent people will continue to die in vain because your silence has allowed the ruling Government to abuse their power.
kellykhoo
July 20, 2009
Gosh, so many things have happened since i’ve been in hibernation. my sincere condolences to ancient mariner’s and tan boon hock’s family.
My exams seem so insignificant among all these happenings yet its something I have to get through.
shar101
July 20, 2009
It’s Teoh Beng Hock, dearie.
johnny soo
July 20, 2009
We must unite to kick umno goons out from our country. They are the most cruel peoples in m’sia.
lizziewong
July 20, 2009
There was no independent autopsy done on Teoh. From reports, it appears that it was the family’s wish not to politicise his death. Could this desire had led the family to decide against a second autopsy? There could be other reasons, I don know.
However, after the kugan’s case, can we trust the 1st autopsy? I don know. Not allowing a second autopsy certainly was not helpful towards getting to the truth.
Will not politicising the death prevents further loss of innocent lives? Do we think MACC and similar institutions will voluntarily out of the goodness of their heart and good conscience to do what is right?
thurisingam
July 21, 2009
if politician don’t get invold will our stupid citizen who voted for this evil gov can get the justice
thurai
July 21, 2009
i wonder weather this people pray 5 times a day
TYKo
July 21, 2009
Dear Haris,
We need to start ask the person in the mirror to do their part if we want to see a better change. Otherwise, it is all just wishful thinking!
You and me are the guilty ones!
I was certainly dissapointed with the number of attendance in Stadium Kelana Jaya yesterday evening (July 19, 2009).
I was expecting a larger crowd, perhaps, 30,000 instead of a meagre 3000.
No wonder Najib only send message from Saudi Arabia about Malaysia being defeated by MU by 2-3 rather than 0-6. That’s all he care because during this match, more than 80,000 crowd went for the game in Stadium Bukit Jalil.
For him, the 3000 crowd in stadium Kelana Jaya is far insignificant to send a personal message of condolences to Teoh Beng Hock’s family nor does he care that Teoh’s die in the custody of MACC.
Who’s to blame?
Blame ourselves as we allow the tyranny to frighten us with their threats. Blame ourselves as we allow the tyranny to create fear and coerced us into submission. Blame ourselves for not dare to make our voice heard and our presence felt.
Yes, indeed we are all scare. We are all fear of the harrassment and intimidation from the tyranny.
But will we let the fear to conquer our inspiration? Will we let the fear to kill off our spirit slowly and surely? Will we let our passion and self-esteem die away from fear?
Do we allow ourselves to become a dead man walking in our own country?
Why don’t we face the fear directly?
Don’t want to the risk?
It we can’t take the risk today, we and our children all will be going to pay much higher price and much greater risks in future, won’t we?
Imagine if we have 100 000 crowd in stadium Kelana Jaya, won’t that awaken the Rakyat, and let everybody knows that enough is enough?
No, we have not done it. We are still too frightened and were swallowed by fear. That’s exactly what tyranny wants. They want us to remain silent, obedient and consent, no matter what happens and no matter what our heart is telling us that it is all wrong.
As V for Vendetta quoted “How did this happen? Who’s to blame? Well certainly there are those who are more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable. But again, truth be told…if you’re looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror.”
If only we listen to what our heart is telling us to do, if only we dare to embrace fear and do it, things will not going to change for better.
Not when we remain sit back, relax, enjoy the show and hopeful that somebody like Anwar Ibrahim or Lim Kit Siang would do all the job for us. Without the people like you and me, do you think AI or LKS could succeed?
It is time for us to raise from our chair, to get out from our comfort zone, to make our presence felt and unleash our anger towards the tyranny before we reach the point of no return where people would be silenced not through the media anymore but through manipulation of law and in Beng Huat’s case, death!
You and me are the guilty ones!
A Voter
July 21, 2009
I have always maintain my stance that without Anwar Ibrahim, there is no Pakatan Rakyat coalition that resulted them to for few State Government.
DAP(excluding Lim Kit Siang maybe) and PAS faction led by Hadi/Nashiruddin are my least choice for I have branded them the lesser of the two evils comparing them with UMNO/BN.
The DAP is also quite troublesome – I personally do not believe the recent call by an eminent man like PKR’s Azmin Ali to reshuffle the State Exco/Councillor is built of reasons of greed, power-play but there must be something that merited his call for such actions.
However, my condolences to the family of Teoh and I do agree with you that it should not be poliicised. Today’s NTV7 News at 8.00p.m. poll showed clearly that most viewers who participated in the SMS agree that the death of Teoh Beng Hock have been politicize and they are right.
If Raja Petra would have known the state-of-affairs and spats between the PR coalition, I am not sure whether he will play the game of brinksmanship till he has to abscond?
Ervin Sholpnick
July 21, 2009
I like beans
Lizzie wong
July 21, 2009
I went to lunch yesterday, and the restaurant owner and her crew tells me that Teoh had committed suicide. Thats the stand of people who have no access to electronic media. Thats the spin they got from msm.
On the other hand, those of us who read the electronic news and blogs, are being critical of how PR handles the matter.
So, lets be good boys and girls and not politicise. Lets leave it to the PRDM and our 1Malaysia PM to do justice for Teoh. Lets hope they learn their lessons and we will not have another innocent life lost.
NTV7 polls? If thats the result, I can only conclude that the pollsters have bought the spin of the msm.
Don be surprised at the next GE, that the spin would have morphed and the rakyat will be told that Teoh is a victim of PR’s politics.
The battle is not on even grounds… Rules for the ruling are none, while rules for the PR are doubled. We have the PDRM, MACC, Royalty and Judiciary applying their own brand of rules on PR. We the rakyat, particularly the so called civil society and enlightened ones, also have rules for PR. Even senior members of the PR such as Azmin Ali cannot work out the Selangor problem (as perceived by him and wee choo keong), and he had to resort to making press statements. what hope is there for PR to strive? If there is a real problem with the sgor exco, isnt there a mechanism within PR to sort this out? IF there is no mechanism, isnt he in a position of influence to set up just such a mechanism? The way the problem is handled by Azmin, would not even be accepted in a workplace, as a problem needs solutions, not bitching.
There is no hope for us, at this rate. BN will yet rule us with for another 50 years. Get used to it, people.
Me Luv Guan Eng
July 21, 2009
Before Setting up Royal Commission:-
KJ & UMNO Youth: Royal Commission! Royal Commission!
Ronnie Liu: Royal Commission! Royal Commission!
Minority Rakyat: Royal Commission! Royal Commission!
Majority Rakyat: What’s the Buzz?
Lim Guan Eng: No Royal Commission kalu, we go candle vigil every night!
DAP: This is not Politicising Issue maa! This is asking for Justice!
After Setting up Royal Commission:-
KJ & UMNO Youth: Royal Commission! Royal Commission!
Majority Rakyat: Royal Commission! Royal Commission!
Minority Rakyat: Woi! No RC also can maaa. What for waste rakyat money?
DAP: Why must they politicise issue? DaPPPPPPP only kena?
Ronnie Liu: Alamak!
Lim Guan Eng: Alamak!
DAP Underworld: Cabuuuuuttt!
Me Luv Guan Eng
Mimi
July 21, 2009
I agree with below blogger.
Shame on those depriving Teoh Beng Hock’s loved ones privacy on their dear loss
http://bananachinese.wordpress.com/2009/07/21/shame-on-those-depriving-teoh-beng-hocks-loved-ones-privacy-on-their-dear-loss/
Ah Beng
July 21, 2009
It’s very difficult not to politicize the issue when the cause of his very death is political to begin with.
romerz
July 22, 2009
Haris,
Penang did not disappoint. About 2-3,000 people showed up for the “Justice for Beng Hock” forum tonight. Not to mention the many hundreds if not a thousand people who went home because they could not find parking.
Pictures from the forum here.
http://romerz.blogspot.com/2009/07/public-forum-justice-for-beng-hock.html