Zaid’s Common Policy Framework vs Zul Nordin’s ISA
October 22, 2009
If you don’t know it already, Zul’s ISA stands for his Islamic State Agenda.
Whilst Zaid busies himself trying to put in place a common policy framework for the three Pakatan Rakyat parties to forge a viable, long-term working relationship with a view to finally registering a coalition, Zul seems equally busy doing everything he can to throw a spanner in Zaid’s efforts.
If I have correctly understood yesterday’s Malaysianinsider report, Zul has submitted 24 Private Members Bills into Parliament, one of which relates to Zul’s obsessive vendetta against Sisters In Islam whilst many, if not all, of the other bills call for amendments to the Federal Constitution with a view to bringing this nation closer to the status of an Islamic one ala Zul aka Taliban Nordin.
If I have read that report correctly, one must ask how this MP found the time to churn out all these bills, particularly when one remembers that he’s been away for the UN General Assembly, having been hand-picked by the BN government to represent Malaysia.
It would appear that there is a team of busy lawyers behind Zul and those 24 Private Members Bills.
Now, anyone who has a basic understanding of the workings in Parliament will tell you that a Private Members Bill that is not sponsored by someone from the side of the government of the day does not have a hope in hell of seeing the light of day.
Seen in that light, two possibilities come to mind.
One, Zul knows that the bills will go nowhere in Parliament but their submission into Parliament and subsequent publicity of that fact through the media enables Zul to profile himself as a ‘Jaguh Islam’.
Two, Zul is working with those in government on some agenda. This might be confirmed if any of the bills do in fact proceed to the tabling and reading stages in Parliament.
Assuming the second hypothesis to be spot on, one needs ask what agenda Zul and his BN cohorts might be working on?
Speculate again.
Following the news of Zul’s bills, some within the media corp now make a beeline to the DAP and PAS leaders to get their respective reactions to the same.
DAP’s reaction : possibly an outright condemnation of Zul’s efforts to undermine the secular status of our constitution and urge the PKR leadership to take disciplinary action against this renegade MP.
As for PAS, the media might first seek Hasan Ali’s response which might be resounding support for Zul’s bills. Other PAS leaders might suggest that in principle, they have no objections but that the proposed amendments are premature in that the general public are not yet ready for the same. In any event, they take exception to DAP’s call for disciplinary action against Zul, taking the view that Zul’’s actions are not inconsistent with Islam.
Short term result : another public spat between DAP and PAS.
Long term result : Zaid’s CPF down the toilet bowl.
I spoke to a reliable source in PKR today. I wanted to know what had become of the show cause proceedings against Zul that was initiated last year following Zul’s involvement in the riotous disruption of the forum at the Bar Council auditorium.
I was shocked by what I was told.
The PKR Disciplinary Committee, headed by Deputy President Syed Husin Ali, it seems, had recommended that Zul be suspended from the party.
Anwar, my source tells me, had decided not to give effect to that recommendation but to ‘deal with Zul’.
You cannot be faulted if you now ask who’s in the driving seat in PKR!
The voice of reason in PAS
October 7, 2009

Could someone please tell our Deputy Prime Minister that when a sitting MP or ADUN is declared a bankrupt, is convicted of an offence that attracts a certain term of imprisonment or a fine of a certain amount, or dies whilst holding that office, the office becomes vacant by operation of law and does not turn on that person resigning from office!
And if any of you decide to do this nation a service by passing on the above info to him, maybe you could also spare the rest of us further agony of having to endure his drivel by also alerting him of this little dose of wisdom : better for a fool to bite his tongue and shut up, rather than to open his mouth and thereby remove all doubt.
NSTonline reports today that Muhyiddin took Kota Alam Shah state assemblyman and ISA detainee M. Manoharan to task for using his present detention in Kamunting as his reason for wanting to reason his ADUNship.
“After winning an election, it’s time for him to get to work. He should be responsible enough and not step down unnecessarily as is being done by those from some political parties. The exceptions are when he is declared a bankrupt, convicted or dies.”, NSTonline quotes the deputy premier as having said.
Die and then step down?
Do we have an idiot in high office or what?
This, though, takes the cake.
NSTonline also reports that Muhyiddin opined that DAP’s Manoharan could still perform his duties despite being under ISA detention.
This must surely reflect Muhyiddin’s dim understanding of the functions and duties of an elected representative to a legislative assembly, both federal and at state level.
Or perhaps Muhyiddin’s rationale is that MPs and ADUNs don’t do much anyway, so what’s the difference whether Mano is in detention or not?
And he’s the number two in the country?
No wonder this country is smelling more and more like a cesspool!
The political chameleon
April 24, 2009

a distinctive and highly specialized clade of lizards. They are distinguished by their parrot-like zygodactylous feet, their separately mobile and stereoscopic eyes, their very long, highly modified, and rapidly extrudable tongues, their swaying gait, and the possession by many of a prehensile tail, crests or horns on their distinctively shaped heads, and the synonymous ability to change color. – Wikipedia
Rais on the ISA, in 1995, when he was in the political wilderness : “The ISA does not speak well for the future of the rule of law in Malaysia. In fact, it is the main adversary of the rule of law. The abolition of the ISA is imperative.”
Rais on the ISA in 2009, as Minister of Information and long out of the political wilderness, in an interview on BBC’s Hardtalk : “The mechanism that we have under the ISA, specifically Section 8 and 73, can be challenged through the process of habeas corpus, which system is also prevalent here, and therefore, to say that the ISA is not up to the standard of humanity is wrong”
Oh, how thy complexion changes with thy fortunes!
…and then there was Khalid Samad
November 28, 2008
I had the honour and the privilege of joining Yang Berkhidmat Khalid Samad as a speaker at two public forums this year.
I do not really know this PAS man but on both occasions, I was left with the sense that this was a man who was sincere about wanting to bring about a positive change in our country.
Don’t get me wrong.
I’m sure that along the way, differences of opinion on a lot of issues will crop up and will have to be ironed out, but it will help if all parties will keep a level head and an open mind and take note that this is a nation with a very diverse population.
YB Khalid strikes me as being such a person.
Soon after he won the Shah Alam seat in Parliament after the last election, YB Khalid addressed churchgoers in Shah Alam. Watch the video below of his speech at the church.
Encouraging!
And in the Malay Mail yesterday, YB Khalid, who had recently been sidelined in PAS Selangor led by Dr Hassan Ali, disclosed that this was because he had, in the days immediately after the last elections, thwarted Dr Hassan’s efforts to to form a BN-PAS state government in Selangor.
We owe YB Khalid a big ‘thank you’ for keeping the Selangor state government BN-free.
I’ve heard rumours that MBSA had recently approved a move to ban the sale of alcohol in Shah Alam. Don’t know how accurate this is, but if anyone who lives in Shah Alam is concerned about this, maybe you should make the effort to see your MP.
Shah Alam, I think you have a good man in Parliament.
Aci, Aci, buka pintu…
October 28, 2008
‘Ya, mahu apa?’
‘Aci, saya Zulkifli Nordin, calon Parti Keadilan untuk Kulim, mahu minta sokongan Aci punya family. Mahu sembang sikit apa pasal mahu kasi buang sama BN dan kasi undi sama saya’
‘Aiya, saya punya suami tada rumah, lah. Saya tak tahu politik, lah. Sapa saya punya suami undi, saya ikut saja, lah’.
‘Suami Aci balik pukul berapa?’
‘Tak tahu, lah. Dia ini hari pigi Penang. Mungkin dua tiga hari baru balik’.
‘Aci jangan marah, ah, saya mahu tanya, suami boleh baca Melayu, kah?’
‘Haiya, mestilah. Orang Malaysia misti boleh baca Melayu. Apa hal?’
‘Ah, lagi dua tiga hari kalau saya mari kawasan ini, booleh saya mari jumpa Aci punya suami, boleh sembang. Tapi sekarang saya kasi ini surat daripada kita punya parti bos, Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim. Ini surat kasi terang apa Parti Keadilan mahu buat untuk semua rakyat Malaysia kalau kita jadi gomen lepas pilihanraya. Parti Keadilan mahu jaga semua rakyat, bukan macam itu BN. BN punya calon bila mahu undi cakap banyak cantik. Rakyat punya hal semua boleh dia jaga. Tapi lepas sudah menang, lain dia pikin. Saya janji, Aci, kalau saya menang nanti, semua Parti keadilan janji dalam surat ini, semua saya mesti pasti kita punya parti kasi pikin. Kalau tidak, saya sama BN apa beza? Sama saja, bukan? Ini surat Aci kasi sama suami, ya. Mintak suami baca. Misti semua dia setuju, semua dia suka. Semua bagus. Kalau senang, Aci sama suami mari kita punya ceramah dekat pekanlah. Makan besar takda. Sorilah, kita tada kasi makan besar-besar macam BN, tapi apa kita cakap di ceramah dan dalam ini surat semua betul punya. Aci sama family tolong sokong saya, undi sama saya, saya mesti jaga Aci sama family. Sokong, ah’.
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Among his proposals to strengthen the position of Islam, Zulkifli called for amendments to the Federal Constitution to clearly regulate conversions to and from Islam.
He also called for those states who have yet to put in place constitutional provisions relating to restrictions against the propagation of religions other than Islam to do so immediately.
In addition to the current civil-criminal division, a Syariah division should also be added to the Federal Court, said Zulkifli.
There should be a separation between the prosecution and enforcement of Syariah laws, and the equivalent of the Bar Council should be set up for Syariah lawyers, he added.
He also agreed to the suggestion by Puad Zarkashi (BN-Batu Pahat) that the Syariah equivalent of an Attorney-General’s Chambers be set up to coordinate Syariah matters – Yang Berbohong Zulkifli Nordin in Parliament, as reported in Malaysiakini.
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Was Zul’s campaign during the 12th general elections built on the party manifesto?
Did Zul appraise Aci that he would be pursuing these new institutional changes that he is now pressing for in Parliament?
The 2004 general elections results reflects that 33.3 percent of the voters in Kulim are non-Malay and, presumably, non-Muslim.
Did he inform any of the voters in Kulim, Malay and non-Malay, Muslim and non-Muslim, that he would be pursuing these changes to our various institutions?
Or did he see it as more expedient to keep silent, get voted in, and then do what he pleased?
Fraud on the Kulim voters?
Anwar, what say you?
How long more must we endure this lying racist in Parliament?
October 24, 2008
Confound not truth with falsehood, nor knowingly conceal the truth – Surah 2 verse 42 of the Holy Qur’an.
The Holy Qur’an is replete with verses, such as the one above, that again and again extol truth as a virtue to be upheld by every Muslim.
This, I presume, will not be disputed by Yang Berbohong Zulkifli Nordin, who, as is reported by Malaysiakini today, appears to be trying to create the spectre that Islam is under siege and then going to great lengths to set himself up as the defender of Islam from the enemies that he has conjured up in his own mischievous, miserable mind.
With this liar, though, who can say?
In the ‘Who caused the confusion about the forum, and why(2)?’ post, I had accused Yang Berbohong Zul Nordin ‘of giving false testimony in claiming that Article 11, through its forums, was urging that children should have no religion until they reach the age of 18 after which they should have the right to choose their own religion’, and that he is a ‘lying, deceiving and manipulative’ politician.
This is a serious allegation.
I repeat the allegation again here, and to back my assertion that he has in fact said so, I produce the evidence below in the form of a link to a video clip of this man uttering those words at one of his many ceramah.
http://www.4shared.com/file/3079113/54f8bcec
I will assert that in all of the four Article 11 forums that were held in 2006, not once was it ever advocated by any of the speakers at any of the forums that ‘children should have no religion until they reach the age of 18 after which they should have the right to choose their own religion’ .
The rapporteur’s report of the first Article 11 forum on 12th March, 2006 in PJ, in pdf, is linked below.
Malaysiakini quotes Yang Berbohong Zul as saying :
” I am not afraid of what people may say. I am more concerned with how I answer to God who will question me (on Judgement Day).”
Well, Yang Berbohong Zul, I don’t know what God is going to say to you come Judgment Day, but this is what I am commanded to say to you now :
“Have ye any certain knowledge? If so, produce it before us. You follow nothing but conjecture; you do nothing but lie.”- Surah 6 verse 148 of the Holy Qur’an.
I now challenge Yang Berbohong Zul to produce the proof to back his assertions as depicted in the video clip.
How did this rubbish get past quality control?
September 3, 2008
Update at 3.06pm on 4/9/08 : PKR Kulim-Bandar Baharu MP Zulkifli Nordin will be facing the party’s disciplinary committee on Saturday over his involvement in the disruption of the Aug 9 Bar Council forum – Malaysiakini report
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Correction & Update : I gave you guys the outdated address of PKR to write to.
Leithaisor, in a comment to this post, has saved my bacon and provided such a comprehensive list of addresses that you have no excuse for not writing now. Cheers mate.
Here’s the list of addresses.
Current address as per PKR website
http://www.keadilanrakyat.org/
A-1-09, Merchant Square, Jalan Tropicana Selatan 1
47410 Petaling Jaya
Malaysia
Tel: 03-78850530
Tel: 03-78850531
On-line message form available at:
http://www.keadilanrakyat.org/index.php/component/option,com_contact/task,view/contact_id,1/Itemid,23/
Contact form on Anwar Ibrahim website:
http://www.anwaribrahim.com/contact.asp
“Office of Anwar Ibrahim” newsletter e-mails have this reply address:
info@anwaribrahim.com
Based on that address, it might be worthwhile to try these possibilities:
anwaribrahim@anwaribrahim.com
anwar@anwaribrahim.com
ai@anwaribrahim.com
dsai@anwaribrahim.com
And thanks to Doc Saravanan, we now have the remaining two video links.
Part 7 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UefxgpQe1E
Part 8 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTpu_M-IhXc
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Yang Berbohong Zulkifli Nordin, on the demonstration outside the Bar Council on 9th August, and his involvement in the same :
‘There was no question of us stopping the forum. They have already discussed with the police to stop it… it’s not because of us. We were just there to put forward our views… you mean the Muslim cannot stand up and protect their rights,’
‘We Muslims have been tolerant enough all this while… so many years we have been forced to live under law that is not Islam. It is time for the Muslims to speak up and I would take the lead for the Muslims to speak up,’
- Malaysiakini report on 18th August.
Yet in an earlier Malaysiakini report on 9th August, this lying bigot is reported to have broken ‘ranks with his opposition colleagues when he called on the crowd to storm the building should the forum continue’.
“If you don’t hear from us at 10am, you should all storm the building,” he is reported to have said, before he led a four-member delegation to meet the forum organisers to voice the protesters grievances.
In the first Malaysiakini report referred to above, Yang Berbohong Zul is reported to have said that his stance did not conflict with the PKR position.
‘That’s the beauty of PKR because we have different views but we can get together… sometimes even contradictory views but we still sit together,’
Wong, in a comment to this blog, wrote :
While everyone was very much focused on Ahmad’s diss towards the chinese, we must not forget this other dude here, Zulkifli Noordin, the Kulim MP.
No doubt I love and want Pakatan Rakyat to take over, but Zul’s rhetoric that he played under PKR’s banner seems to collide with his Hyde’s side when he is representing the Malay Muslim Lawyers club;
Check this videos out and feel my worries;
Part 1 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=badZdXOt4CU
Part 2 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99yOPMhHR8c
Part 3 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrb6eAtcAvU
Part 4 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04czSwCykhk
Part 5 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjg3tXwXwVs
Part 6 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvQOW0TSBfI
(Note: Part 7 & Part 8 is not available yet during this posting)
That is one case of a rotten bad apple.”
Watch these videos and ask yourself if this is what he means by his stance and that of PKR are the same?
Better still, don’t ask yourself. Ask Anwar.
Here, I’ll make it easy for you.
Y Bhg. Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim,
Advisor,
Parti Keadilan Rakyat,
No.17, Jalan 16/2,
Petaling Jaya,
Selangor.
( Fax No. : 03-79565444 )
Go on, write Anwar and ask him if Zul’s stand as depicted in these videos reflects the stand of PKR, and if not, why in heaven’s name is this man representing the good people of Kulim in Parliament?
Ask Anwar how did this bigot get into Parliament? What went wrong with PKR’s selection process?
I’ve had occasion in the past to call this bigot a bearer of false testimony.
I’ve watched these videos and I’ll say more now.
Zulkifli is a liar who uses alarmists tactics, subtly merging race with religion in his sermons to get the Malays agitated say that he may achieve his ‘Islam-as I say-ist’ ends.
Now, I will await his writ so that I can plead justification and repeat the same in court.
Liar, liar, pants on fire!
July 9, 2008
Update at 3.43pm :
Malaysiakini has the full report HERE
It’s really quite incredible how low this low life can sink to.
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Update at 9.24am - Lifted this photo from theSun online with the following.
theSun reports that Bung maintains that he had not made any rude gesture, but had slapped the back of his one hand with the palm of the other, and proceeded to demonstrate as in this photo.
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“I never made any lewd gestures at the opposition,” – Bung Moktar Radin (BN-Kinabatangan)
Read the rest of this in the NST online HERE.
Ya, ke?
Well, artic turban, who comments here frequently, did a little bit of snooping around and found something telling on youtube and sent in this link.
Unless Bung now tells us that his Johnson clap was directed at the Speaker, in which case I apologise for calling him a low-down, good-for-nothing liar!
Duh minister
June 9, 2008
Zahid has advise for bloggers, it seems.
Bloggers should shift their focus from politics to the plight of the needy and the marginalised, NSTonline reports this newly minted minister in the PM’s department in charge of Islamic affairs as saying.
Either this man is daft or, like the rest in his party, he simply refuses to face up to the reality that he and his ilk no longer have a 2/3 grip of parliament and are now left to ponder whether they will still be in government by year-end.
Why?
Because the rakyat decided at the last elections to kick out bloodsucking, money-grabbing politicians who have for so long now ignored the plight of needy and marginalised Malaysians.
Why?
Because bloggers contributed to the 8/3/08 tsunami by focusing on the plight of the needy and the marginalised by spotlighting those bloodsucking, money-grabbing politicians.
Zahid also thinks bloggers should visit Lorong Haji Taib in Chow Kit to see how people there live.
Minister, for your information, this blogger and friends used to visit the area every Sunday for 2 years from 2001-2003 to distribute food and old clothing to the destitute there on a ‘no questions asked, we don’t judge you’ basis.
However, the then Batu MP from Gerakan complained that there was a group of irresponsible citizens who were encouraging vagrancy by providing food to drug addicts and the homeless.
And there are many more people today who, without seeking any press coverage, quietly do their bit to provide for the homeless.













