Last Monday, in Parliament, Karpal asked Najib if he had raised a keris at an UMNO youth rally in Kampung Baru in 1987 and uttered racist words to the effect that the blood of the Chinese would be spilled.
Najib flatly denied making such utterances.
The next day, in response to Najib’s denial, RPK published a post entitled ‘In response to Najib’s denial in Parliament yesterday’ in which Pete reproduced a press release by YB Lim Kit Siang dated 27th April, 2007.
In that press release, YB Lim alluded to a Government White Paper entitled “Towards Preserving National Security” wherein the goverment had reported that, quoting YB Lim, ” in an Umno Youth rally led by Najib on 17th October 1987, banners bearing strong words were displayed, including one which said: “SOAK IT (KRIS) WITH CHINESE BLOOD” ‘.
Yesterday, I got my hands on that White Paper.
It’s a damning document of the messages of hate that emerged from that rally 22 years ago.
I also got my hands on reports on 18th October, 1987 of that rally that appeared in our then still largely independent MSM.
Malaysiakini reported yesterday that Anwar had said, “I was not at the rally, I was the Umno vice-president then… it was organised by Umno Youth and by Najib, (so) I have to just take Najib’s assurance and denial in Parliament,” and “…I am not in the position to discuss or accuse Najib, because I am not aware of what he had said,” and “To be fair, my only statement is that, Najib has denied… but documents and banners are available (and) there were very extreme positions, racist and extreme demands and statement (on them),” and “it is best for Najib to make it clear, if there were excessive (statements) made… and admit it, so that we can move on”.
Let me just say now that what Anwar is reported to have said is amply supported by the White Paper and the news reports of 18th October, 1987.
Yesterday, the Malay Mail reported Karpal as now saying that “I wanted to know if he said it, and he gave his answer, let’s just leave it as it is, the matter should not go on further,”
I disagree with YB Karpal.
Why should we leave it as it is? Why should we not pursue this matter any further?
Don’t we have the right to know the kind of man who purports to lead this nation forward?
Was Najib at the UMNO youth rally on 17th October 1987?
Yes.
Was he leading that rally?
He was then acting UMNO youth chief. I’d say yes.
Did he raise the keris and issue words to the effect that the blood of the Chinese would be spilled?
Don’t know.
Even if he did not, was he not leading a rally that had on display enough paraphanelia that spelt out the threat to spill blood of a particluar segment of our Malaysian community without the need for Najib or anyone else to vocalise it or brandish weapons?
Is this not enough to make his denial in Parliament last Monday somewhat hollow? Deceitful?
Again, that government White Paper and the 1987 news reports bear this out.
Now this man wants us to swallow his 1Malaysia hook, line and sinker .
Does he not first owe this nation an explanation?
Does he not first owe us all an unqualified apology?
The People's Parliament 
shar101
June 18, 2009
Bro,
An ex-Bernama reporter wrote the following at Rocky’s –
zv said…
Yeah… he said it alright…that incident ws only 21 years ago la, not 30 years…
And he was not alone in doing this, in fact the others had fanned the atmosphere to point of being that the TPCA Stadium was supposed to be the remake of the a la May 13 launching pad to lynch sombody or some group of people.
Mat Taib was among those who were there to “lend support” and support they did, to the point of being culpable…there was a banner in the background which had an image of a keris drippping with blood…
Lee Kim Sai was to be blamed also for his hard words had “offended” the Malay leaders. These blokes were retaliating to that…
Hey, i was there reporting the rally for Bernama…
10:15 AM
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ZV (Zukri Valenteno) has blog –
http://utarawan.blogspot.com/
unkerlai
June 18, 2009
Whether he actually uttered those infamous words is beside the point.
The banners proclaiming them were prominently displayed for all to see.
As a leader, he should have taken steps to remove them or admonish those who put them up.
Keeping silent is tacit approval and support of such extreme views..
Najib will NEVER get my vote !!
ktteokt
June 18, 2009
Denial has been the traditional culture of all BN people. Why deny something which has happened and actually recorded as history?
shamsul yunos
June 18, 2009
Haris, kalau ada itu MSM report for 1987, scan it adn put it up, we want to see whether he actually said those words because that is the accusation
don’t cop out and say that it is about the banner pulak… banner sapa pun boleh letak, kalau dia tak nampak macamana? kalau gambar itu diambil sebelum dia sampai dan banner to dibuang selepas itu macamana
if you are interested int he truth you would also question this
as for anwar fanbiy media, the gospel of pete is that he said it and you guys even created a wikipedia entry for najib saying that what he allegedly said was widely reported and when we check the three notes (35), (36) and (37)… the earliest ws the 2007 Press release by LKS, a malaysia insider comment on the same report and a n aliran article commenting on the same report… so the widely reported appears to stem fro mone Press release 20 years after the fact….
read it all here
http://marahku.blogspot.com/2009/06/all-evidence-came-20-years-after-event.html
… mana reports from the year, scan it and publish it in your blog so we can see how ti was reported, whether reporters on the ground actually heard those words coming out of Najib’s mouth.
If not then you are a worse spinner than Rocky or any BN supporters who you claim are spinners… at least they don’t stand on a high horse and claim to be guardian of human rights and morality lah….
shamsul yunos,
Did he raise the keris and utter the words?
I said I don’t know.
The point I seek to make in this post is that sometimes you do not have to utter the words. Your stance and the surrounding circumstances may amount to your saying as much.
Scan the paper and put it up? All in good time. Meanwhile, I’m sure you have access to the archives at all the MSM. Go dig it out yourself and put it up on your blog.
Check my post. I did not say the news reports had it as asked by Karpal. Please don’t put words in my post.
shamsul yunos
June 18, 2009
BTW that picture at the start of RPK article is typical of his and your misleading ways, it was created in 2008 by a pastor and now it is pasted at the head of RPK’s article as if it was an original report of the event or intended to look or create and impression as if it was an original report of the event
rocky
June 18, 2009
why wait till now to deny? why not in 1987 to calm things down. He was the leader and should have taken action to bring down banners which are worded such that will cause problem.
anyway why deny now?
Umran
June 18, 2009
At the very least as the person who led the procession Najib should now distance himself from those bearing inflammatory messages.
It is just foolish to just end it with “I didn’t say anything racist so YB Karpal should apologise”.
Unless he is not distancing himself for other, as yet unstated, reasons?
Shower
June 18, 2009
Now see whether MCA( the running dogs) will act or not.
backStreetGluttons
June 18, 2009
The flesh was willing and the spirit was strong, but wtf !
Somebody find the video or audio tape , get it from TDM ! the one holding his balls !
mat t
June 18, 2009
Bro they god works in mysterious way’s and usually what goes around come’s back to give a person’s arse a good wallop so that he or she shall not forget.
mat t
June 18, 2009
sorry typo they say god.
Soul of Malaysia
June 18, 2009
Brother Haris, what do we expect from our leaders and government, not once have they ever accepted that they are fallable and made mistake and need to reconcile and made an apology.In our kingdom the leaders will not make mistake.
Perakborn
June 18, 2009
It take a man, a real man, a brave man, an honourable man, to admit a mistake and say sorry.
But then Najib is NONE of those. He has no character, no morals, no principles.
What makes him think that Malaysians are all bumbling illiterate fools who do not know history?
Ziggy
June 18, 2009
You are dead right Mate, for Najib Razak, his wife
wears the pants. Najib has got no Balls as a man,
he only puts on a brave front in the Public, at
home he is a wimp.
dragon
June 18, 2009
Hey guys please leave that matter which happen 21yrs ago as a bad history. please don t stir this kind of sentitive issue now. please stop it.
4RAKYAT
June 18, 2009
no, no stopping it. if najis is not our pm or a vip, i may consider it.
but now he is our freaking pee-m.
so i say dig till the ends of the world.
4RAKYAT
Mala
June 18, 2009
At least he implicitly agreed that it was an unacceptable act for he dare not take credit.
Meng
June 18, 2009
I once had the pic of the banner but lost it. Anyone with the pic please post it in the net
Disgusted
June 18, 2009
stop talking nonsense, scan the paper and publish em
put up the pictures of the banners
show concrete evidence, proving that the photo has not been doctored
you guys are the accuser, please, for the love of god, if you want to PURSUEEEE matters, provide the evidence laaa, what ur doing right now, is SPINNING.
najib punye kes 22 tahun dulu ko sebok, yang calon PM korang tu dok cakap dia akan pastikan loceng-loceng kuil tak berbunyik lagi dekat beberapa tahun lepas tu je ko buat senyap
korang ni nk ape sebenarnye? biskut?
frankie
June 18, 2009
Looks like me, sounds like me, why don’t you ask Rosmah?
MsDaff
June 18, 2009
Actually, that’s not the only answer he owes the nation……
shanghaifish
June 18, 2009
bro,
Correct me here, was it also on the night of 18th. October 1987 that a certain Private Adam something, armed with a M16 went on a shooting spree mayhem and brought the whole city to a stand-still, killing 1 chinese and 1 malay and fatally injuring another malay in the Chow Kit area ?
Was he motivated or “inspired” or “worked-up” from the frenzy the evening before at the TPCA rally ?
He was later certified “mentally unstable” by the authorities though. Sad indeed cos on Monday morning (19th.)I couldn’t get to my office in Plaza Pekeliling. Just curious !
Bro,
You’re right about the night of the 18th.
Can’t confirm the rest
Robert
June 18, 2009
The 2nd May 13 would have started on that if not for the power of God.I remember. First LKS was fighting about the NS highway given to cronies. Some Bumi Companies who quoted the lower price but not cronies did not get the project. To divert attention from this Corruption by the Mamak ******* Mahathir, he sent headmasters and Senior Assistants who do not speak Mandarin to Chinese schools. All opposition parties started attacking this action and the Mamak ******* Mahathir purposely turn it into a racial issue. The rally was called by UMNO Youth to protest against the Chinese Educationists and opposition parties. I saw a TV telecast with Najib and the banner behind him. God cause a thunderstorm to occur on that day with thunder and lightning and the clash did not happen. Anybody can obtain some press photos or TV footage that shows Najib and those ******* UMNO Youth leaders in front of the banner? May God curse vcme if this is a lie. If this is not a lie, let God curse the leaders of UMNO of the past and present esp the Mamak ******* Mahathir.
Rene R. Especkerman
June 18, 2009
on another matter. Is Malaysia Today blocked. How am I to get acess to Malaysia Today. I have been trying since this morning. Can anybody help me please.
My2cen
June 18, 2009
To me, it doesn’t matter whether he uttered the words or not. The fact that he led a rally where a banner was put up with those words and picture of a soaked keris, tells me very clearly what a BIG TIME LIAR AND RACIST he is. We cannot allow a BIGOT to rule this country. And he is repeating his tactic by allowing Utusan Melayu (Meloya) / Awang Selamat to write what he really thinks. If that’s not instigating the Malays against the Chinese, I don know what is. It’s open instigation. And it will only ruin the people.
najib manaukau
June 18, 2009
Just ask Najib to swear in the name of Allah that he he did not say those words !
By now he must be used to call Allah to be his witness because he is immune to going to hell !!
Besides Allah will only get him at the end of his life or at the end as P.M. so go and swear that he did not say those words, after all Allah can only punish him only once. He can swear many more times !!!
telur dua
June 18, 2009
He is just mortal, nothing great, but I do agree he is deceitful. He can take his 1Malaysia and shove it.
We need sincerity and political will not slogans. And certainly not illegal power grab.
shamsul yunos
June 18, 2009
dey rocky,
dia tak deny in 9187 pasal benda tak pernah jadi – that , if if anything, is a big proof that he never even said it. macamana dia nak tefikir nak deny
letme ask you this
kenap kau tak deny kau ni gay? kenapa kau tak deny kau ni rasa Anwar to seksi?
it’s probably because it never occured to you to deny a negativekan… kata bodoh nanti marah pulak
najisb
June 18, 2009
Don’t you know the racist Mamak Mahafiruan was the mastermind behind this? Mahafiruan should be sent to hell 10-times for all the sins he had commited during his 22 yrs destructive reigns.
mickey
June 18, 2009
This is just like that alleged dinner photo. Never really exist.
Same thing goes to this one. I don’t think anyone can dig this out, coz it never exist.
If it exist, it will be out by now as fast as the photo of Saiful Bukhari.
The proof would have been out TOGETHER with the allegations!!!
Whoever brought this up must have a strong basis.
So where is the proof?
Haris, don’t be slow at this. find it fast laa…
wandererAUS
June 18, 2009
dragon Says:
June 18, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Hey guys please leave that matter which happen 21yrs ago as a bad history. please don t stir this kind of sentitive….
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Sorry my friend, we don’t have to be a apologist for Racist Pig A#ses!!!
It runs in that privileged political family…raising the keris to show their false bravery…a noble swordman will not behave like a samseng….ooops! we are on the subject with characters linked to Celaka UMNO permuda…
F.Xavier
June 18, 2009
If he had made that remark, demonic spirits are released and will continue to plague him to carry out those words unless and until he renounce and break it. I believe he was pressured or carried away as a young man, but now since he is PM and more mature he should be responsible enough to unsay those words. Never underestimate words uttered no matter innocently, for in the spirit realm they will activate a force for good or evil.Everyone make mistakes, but it takes courage to admit and rectify and move one.This is a mark of a great man and its a shame because our Najib is such a polished and learned man.
aca
June 18, 2009
a great leader would hv acknowledge what has happened but thats 22 years ago. surely an apology would be accepted by all fair minded msians. yet, as PM he didnt dare to be honest. what can we expect from him then?
fireduck
June 18, 2009
Fact remains that Najib did lead a rally that carried all those banners and overtones. That fact is not can cannot be denied. Even the UMNO Youth website sings glory of that (they also sing high glory of Anwar then too).
Fact remains that Ops Lalang net over 100 people, including social activists and NGOs personnel, but Najib who was leading and instigating a potentially explosive situation was left untouched. He was not even taken in under ISA for HIS OWN PROTECTION!
Which posed a greater danger to the nation’s stability? Someone firing up a segment of the people and verbally whipping them up into a frenzy, or an activist who was only fighting for compensation for the victims of the Asian Rare Earth incident?
Antares
June 19, 2009
Najib the Ultimate Denier. All he ever does is DENY he did this, DENY he said that, DENY DENY DENY. Time he changed his name to Najib Denyro!
joolee
June 19, 2009
Robert said, “The rally was called by UMNO Youth to protest against the Chinese Educationists and opposition parties. I saw a TV telecast with Najib and the banner behind him. God cause a thunderstorm to occur on that day with thunder and lightning and the clash did not happen. Anybody can obtain some press photos or TV footage that shows Najib and those ******* UMNO Youth leaders in front of the banner?”
I watched that newscast too. I don’t remember exactly what Najib said but I can never erase from my memory the image of him standing and haranguing the cheering crowd, ratcheting up anti-Chinese sentiments. At that point I was convinced violence was imminent.
While I don’t know whether Najib actually uttered the words, “soak the keris in Chinese blood,” I do know that he was a key player in that rally because I watched it on TV.
Frankly, I hate what’s happening now. I hate all this talk of Malay unity when Malaysian unity is what is important. 1Malaysia is meaningless as long as the man who promotes it continues to deny his past indiscretions and refuses to disavow communal politics.
Lynn
June 19, 2009
Do you hear this, Shamsul Yunos? Citizens of this country actually saw on TV on that fateful night, Najib “standing and haranguing the cheering crowd, ratcheting up anti-Chinese sentiments”.
Even if those words did not come out from his own lips then, all those banners with ‘soak the keris with chinese blood were all around him, so were all the racist comments coming out from the crowd. If Najib is at all prime minister material and his 1Malaysia is inclusive of all Malaysians, the right and decent thing to do is to apologise NOW that he is the PM of Malaysia for what happened during his tenure as UMNO Youth Head/Deputy Head to seek a closer and move on.
Chan Ching
June 19, 2009
He can deny till the cows are back but we will
never never and never believe in him!!
Napalm
June 19, 2009
A long time ago, my dad told me that N will step on the Chinese to advance his political career.
Bigjoe
June 19, 2009
Of course he said it. That is not the point. The point is, in Malaysian context, what should he have done?
The problem with what Najib did in Parliament is it was predictable, very mediocre. Did he not expect this question to come up once he started on 1Malaysia idea?
The man is no intellectual although he likes to speak like he is and pretend he is. He is more fluff than real. Its not he is without substance but for his job at this time, he is just lucky NOT deserving.
The problem is the job now calls for someone actually really good, someone better and he is not it. He does not deserve to stay long. His moral duty is to find someone who can do the job better than he because no one is expecting him to do a great job although they want him to. That is why people are highly critical of him because they know he must not stay long. Malaysian voters know they must have someone better and the faster he goes the sooner they have someone better to take his place.
Wartanegara
June 19, 2009
Scan and release the report and the rest will be answered automatically. Simple as that.
Bigjoe
June 19, 2009
We can all learn from LKY on how to deal with Najib. LKY threw the sand issue to Najib on his offer of a bridge because he is knows the man is just full of crap. More talk than real. He treats Najib like one of his apprentice that he is putting through the grinder to see if he is made of sterner stuff.
LKY knew what he was doing when he brought the sand thing up specifically. He knew it was going to raise ruckus and but he also knew if Najib cannot handle it, he can’t handle much and not much is going to get done….
osamaalgendy
June 19, 2009
Don’t you know the racist Mamak Mahafiruan was the mastermind behind this? Mahafiruan should be sent to hell 10-times for all the sins he had commited during his 22 yrs destructive reigns.
http://forex-trading-forex-books.blogspot.com/
http://www.ipod2world.blogspot.com/
mauryaII
June 19, 2009
The only true Malaysian leader of intergrity, ablity, substance and vision was the first PM, Tuanku Abdul Rahman. The others who followed as PMs were just mediocre racists who created and used divisive policies of the NEP kind to divide and rule.
None were true leaders of all the races in Malaysia. They were only jajuh kampung who could only relate to the rural folks and take them for a jolly good ride.
The worst of the lot was the Mamak a/l Iskandar Mohamad Kutty. He abused his power as PM and turned Malaysia into his personal fiefdom with the other donkeys in MCA, MIC, GERAKAN and the beggar coalition partners from Sabah and Sarawak playing second fiddle to him.
Najib could not have done what he did during the said assembly at TPCA stadium without the blessings of the despicable Mamak. He would have encouraged Najib and others to show he is a TRUE Malay, more Malay than anyone else.
Najib denying about his purported anti-Chinese remarks is nothing new. He is a habitual liar. When he gets cornered he would resort to swearing on the holy Quran. A good and devout Muslim will not sully the holy Quran for personal gain. But then Najib is a UMNO Muslim who is above God and the laws of the nation.
Najib is in denial mode. He is another Lingam who is notorious for his infamous words of denial: looks like me, sounds like me but it is not me. The best part is he got away scot-free.
Is it any wonder Najib is following Lingam’s modus operandi? The MSM is there to lap it up and give the widest coverage.
hamderhak
June 20, 2009
When you lead UMNO Youth organising such a function, you are indeed being an interested party in allowing such phrases to be displayed. These words angered all parties both Chinese and Malays for sure.
Whether you said these words is immaterial. This stance showed the true inner self of a person.
Such a person is not fit to lead a multi-racial and multi-cultural nation like Malaysia.
The UMNO Youth leader then must have given the go-ahead to make those seditious banner anyway.
BANGKALIPOEYLUKIAKA
June 23, 2009
This is the worst kind of leader Bolehland ever had.
A disgrace to the Malay’s dignity and the sacred religion, indeed.
Jumilah Abdul Malek
June 23, 2009
Dear Haris,
I was there. I cud see him on the stage from far waving the keris. There were a lot of people cheering Najibwhen he uttered on the stage at TPC Stadium Kg Bharu on that day,”… kita akan basahkan keris ini dengan darah cina di segenap lorong-lorong, chow kit..” I was scared as I was staying with my nephew and a niece renting at KL Tradisional Apartment at Kg Bharu and my mind that time was wandering what wud happen to my nephew and niece who were in school if i were to go out to work. Another 13th May in making? I quickly went home and on the way home I saw a mercedes benz if i was not mistaken 280s with a small tv in the car and happened i asked somebody near the car whose car was it, and he replied it belonged to a guru silat malaysia.
Jumilah Abdul Malek
June 23, 2009
I was there. I cud see him on the stage from far waving the keris. There were a lot of people cheering Najibwhen he uttered on the stage at TPC Stadium Kg Bharu on that day,”… kita akan basahkan keris ini dengan darah cina di segenap lorong-lorong, chow kit..” I was scared as I was staying with my nephew and a niece renting at KL Tradisional Apartment at Kg Bharu and my mind that time was wandering what wud happen to my nephew and niece who were in school if i were to go out to work. Another 13th May in making? I quickly went home and on the way home I saw a mercedes benz if i was not mistaken 280s with a small tv in the car and happened i asked somebody near the car whose car was it, and he replied it belonged to a guru silat malaysia.