Yesterday evening, I got a call to say someone in Putrajaya had lodged a police report against me, supposedly in relation to public statements i have made about 1,805 lives having been lost whilst in the custody of authorities here.
I immediately instructed solicitors who called the OCPD, Putrajaya, confirmed that such a police report had been made although he would not confirm what it related to, and then wrote to say that I was ready, by prior appointment, to attend at their office to render my statement. My solicitors have yet to hear from the police on any appointed date.
A little later that same evening, I got another call to say that two dogs were barking incessantly in cyberspace about how I had been dishonest about the number of deaths in custody.
One, a highly obese, blubbered bitch, and the other a rabid canine of uncertain pedigree.
No one in cyberspace with any grey matter between their ears takes these two seriously, so i was just going to let it pass.
But then, their handler decided to get in on the act.
Yes, I mean Rocky, in his blog and in his government-controlled Malay Mail.
Now, not that anyone takes Rocky any more seriously than his two charges these days, but I figured, ‘What the hell, for old times sake’ so, here goes.
Rocky and flabby jowls ask questions.
“What kind of numbers are the people behind SABM trying to do and on whom? Where did they get their statistics from, anyway?”, Rocky asks, in his Malay Mail piece.
Blubber asks : “There is a serious deficit by another 1,696 deaths in custody for the same corresponding period, as claimed by Haris Ibrahim’s ‘Saya Anak Bangsa Malaysia’. So where is this deficit is coming from? MACC/Immigration/Prisons? Or Henry Gurney school in Telok Mas, Melaka? Is it possible that Haris hallucinated these figures?”.
Now, lawyers learn very early in practise a cardinal rule of cross-examination : do not ask the question the answer to which you do not already know.
In layman’s terms : DO NOT TEMBAK BUTA-BUTA.
The reason : because the unexpected answer may end up as mud on your face.
Rocky and flabby jowls also make assumptions.
In his blog post, Rocky surmises : “Even Haris is not so sure of it now as he asked The MM: “Let’s say the figures are wrong and it is only 15. Should we still not be concerned over 15 custodial deaths?”
You know what they say you make of yourself when you assume, don’t you, Rocky?
And once that perception sticks, it doesn’t matter what you drive, you just can’t shake it off!
You’re dead wrong, Rocky. Way off
Blubber : “We are assuming that the deaths are under custodian of the law enforcement agencies”.
Now, fat jowls got lucky.
His assumption was spot on.
Thing is, fat jowl’s lucky guess just serves to spotlight his mischief and downright dishonesty and that of his handler in employing a technique that the French refer to as ‘legerdemain’.
When employed by magicians, this craft is referred to as the ‘sleight of the hand’.
In the hands of your average confidence trickster, its called plain, old, deception.
The other mutt was just plain dishonest.
Let me illustrate the craft employed by the first two by an examination of Rocky’s article in the Malay Mail.
“The Saya Anak Bangsa Malaysia group, which started as a human rights movement but has since made forays into partisan politics, claimed last week that 1,805 people had died between 2003 and July last year in our remand cells, prisons and detention centres” , Rocky says.
See the spin that SABM is now inclined towards partisan politics?
You’re slacking, Rocky!
Now, in all my postings in this blog on this matter, I have alluded to ‘1,805 deaths in custody’ without specifying how many occurred in prison, in remand cells and detention centres. Search ‘1805’ in this blog to satisfy yourself.
Not once have I said that these deaths were at the hands of the police authorities.
And neither has SABM.
Three paragraphs down, this is what Rocky now writes :
“On the other hand, according to official statistics provided by our Home Ministry, 147 people have died in police custody in the last 10 years since May 2000. For this year, the number of deaths in police custody is three so far. The highest in a year is 23 in 2003”.
And two paragraphs down, he brings the legedermain technique into play and asks :
“Which makes one wonder: What kind of numbers are the people behind SABM trying to do and on whom? Where did they get their statistics from, anyway?”.
See how he conveniently glosses over the 1,805 people had died … in our remand cells, prisons and detention centres that he earlier attributed to SABM, ties that figure with the official statistics of 147 deaths in police custody, and then posits his question to suggest that we have claimed the number of 1,805 deaths as being at the hands of the police.
Read Flabby jowls post and you find he adopts the same modus.
The other deranged mongrel simply lies through his teeth and asserts that “Haris has been openly selling the notion that 1,805 people had died in police custody since 2003 when the actual number is one tenth of the allegation”.
“…Have you any knowledge with you so you should bring it forth to us? You only follow a conjecture and you only tell lies” : Surah 6 verse 148 of the Holy Qur’an.
I’ve got to ask, Rocky, where you and your sidekicks get your figures for 2004 and 2006? Did you guys find 3 bodies under your desks and decided to stick it on the cops?
What was that about playing around with numbers?
Rocky suggests in his Malay Mail article that the number 1805 has been cooked up by, amongst others, SABM.
You want to know where we got our statistics, Rocky?
You ready for mud in your face?
Rocky, talk is cheap.
Want to put some of your UMNO money where your lying mouth is?
Tell you what, Rocky.
Take out your cheque book, make out a sum of RM50,000 to SABM as a token solatium for your sullying their good name, and I will give you the full breakdown of how the number 1,805 is arrived at, source reference and all.
That exercise, though, might prove me wrong.
The number might even be higher. By about 2.
Although I half suspect you already know this.
Go on, make my day, Rocky.
As for that rabid canine, go read this book and when you think you’ve understood enough, read it again and and again and again…
Shamsul Yunos
July 23, 2010
take your own advice first on the book
then at least you won;t sound like the arrogant pig that you are
I know you think self righteous suits you but do yourself that favour
Please don’t think that I care if you publish this or not
Admiral Tojo
July 23, 2010
The Arrogant Pigs are mostly in Parliament. They have forgotten who the real bosses are i.e. the RAKYAT. Perhaps you are blinkered anak Pak Yunos. Wake up
Shalom
Caractere
July 23, 2010
I do not quite seem to understand the language this man writes. Is it english? I see plenty of flaws this jowl has made. If he is from a missionary school in malaysia, then he had just made a mistake, which is to try writing in english.
This man is being personal here. Haris, do not bother entertaining him. Leave this jowl alone.
emastulen
July 23, 2010
Think carefully you MORON. You seem to be an Umno stooge. Who recommend the book here? It is Haris. If he had not read the book he would not ask the DOG to read it. People like you have mud for brains that you can’t even think clearly before you put your foot in your mouth. Stupid IDIOT!!!!
John John
July 23, 2010
emastulen
You are wrong, Yunos does not have mud for brains. He has shit for brains and Pig Shit at it.
Haris,
Keep up the good fight. They are no match to you. This ass has already lost when he called you a pig. Rocky lost all credibility when he sold out to his masters for money and position. He is the worst type of scum there is.
oettinger
July 23, 2010
this chap yunos fler thinks he is super brilliant. and, i would pretty well say my bloody foot!
Paul Warren
July 23, 2010
Haris, by leaving this idiotic comment on your page was it your intention to let this man sully his own reputation, if he has had any that is?
Check it out
July 23, 2010
Even the most arrogant pig pales in comparison to you, Somefool.
John
July 23, 2010
Aiya who is this idiot ?
Can’t even write properly want to come and challenge Haris, you better go improve your command of English first before commenting in this blog.
Now get lost .
sambal muncha
July 23, 2010
Go sock it to em bro!
shar101
July 23, 2010
Presumptious fler, this Sham.
Admiral Tojo
July 23, 2010
I would not worry about these Dick suckers of APCO/UMNO if I were you Haris. As usual their stupidity will be exposed. I remember someone mentioning a figure of over a thousand for death in custody, in Parliament recently. Correct me if I am wrong.
Oh the obese one is truly disgusting, if you ask me. How can anyone take him seriously if he cannot take himself seriously by overeating, a cronick eating disorder at that. For the other one, as Jeremy Clarkson said in fifth gear, anyone who buys a BMW X6 is a confused IDIOT.
Shalom
A Concerned Citizan
July 23, 2010
Haris,
The truth will prevail. At least you walked your talk and live in this life with a conscience unlike so many others who only know how to lick people’s…….
bc
July 23, 2010
Good one, Haris. You rock…no-nonsense. It would have been nice if you had thrown in a slap and kick in the groin as well. (Oh, you had?)
I wonder if Rocky has it in him anymore – to feel remorse and desire to seek truth. I am being charitable here…
In the early days, I sort of admired him. And when I sensed that he was swaying to the other side, naively I wrote to remind him to say that “your slip’s showing”.
We who walk the path admire people with a cause and a pony-tailed rebel even more.
Oh, what misery it is to be so deceived.
I am sure people like Zorro has much to say too but he has kept his counsel well. Saludar, amigo
But Camus said: we always deceive ourselves twice about the people we love – first to their advantage, then to their disadvantage.
Now Rocky is like the chihuahua in Paris Hilton’s (or maybe Kak Rosmah’s for all you know) handbag…purring gratefully for the reward thrown his way as consideration for yelping through the erstwhile Paper That Cares. I would not even use it too wipe dog’s poo off the floor. I think enough is said about the poor tabloid.
A tiger leaves behind its stripes, a man his name…
Ahiruddin Atan…is there a real one to stand up?
As for the other two canine siblings I have no bad words to say…only thoughts which are not so nice.
Wahaha
July 23, 2010
Ggood one Harris, let’s hope that these dogs will think some senses in between their dope sessions.
🙂
doggone
July 23, 2010
Just as scrotum-lickers mouth testicles for their daily requirement for salt. Testicle-kickers on the other hand is worth their salt every time they propel their foot.
Here’s my left for the Blubber and right to the Mixed !!
cv
July 23, 2010
nstman
July 23, 2010
Dont waste your time with sickos like Rocky and Shamsul. They have no shame.
nstman
July 23, 2010
Shamsul, you are an insult to humanity. You are sick. You are an inveterate liar.
ivanyang
July 23, 2010
Good one Harris, somehow the rock reminded me of the ‘arse licker’ term used by the aussie politician against the then Oz PM kowtowing to the US!
temenggong
July 23, 2010
“a rabid canine of uncertain pedigree.”
class..!
R.Ramli
July 23, 2010
You are right in crying out the injustice of the terrible deaths in custody. Barisan, Umno is a bunch of murderers, torturers, swindlers, fraudsters yakuza.
The Yakuza is run by godfather Najib, the biggest criminal in Malaysia.
Rocky should instead write about the sexual acts between prosecutor Zina and Saiful. Zina must be enjoying what bisexual Saiful does to her. I hope he used gel otherwise you cannot shit for 2 days.
His fiancee is in much stress now. What is she going to do?
Phua Kai Lit
July 23, 2010
Dear Encik Haris
Reminds me of an excellent movie directed by
Istvan Szabo called “Mephisto” starring Klaus Maria Brandauer made in 1981.
Plot is summarised in wikipedia.
Sad, actually …..
Tony Tan
July 23, 2010
Bravo Harris, I equate you to the American actor, Clint Eastwood. Locally, we call ‘dog shooter’. There is a saying “As a dog returns to its vomit, so a fool repeats his folly”.
Keep it up.
ajajal
July 23, 2010
Come on have a heart for those who died in custody. Put it this way the figures are there even it is 5 they have died unnecessary. Those who claimed they are human needs to come in and support unless they are running dogs of UMNO. I just hope one of this day one of their friend or love one will be next to died in the hands of the law and we will see how they act.
kassim baba
July 23, 2010
abg harris
target audience rocky adalah pembaca yg malas atau tidak akses internet atau yg tidak celik politik,rocky tidak akan peduli dengan jawapan abg kerana tidak menemui sasaran yg dia hendak hebahkan.
saya dapati sekarang selain dr penulis upahan umno di internet,mca pun sudah mula terutama di malaysikini dan online news yg lain.
Pak Yeh
July 23, 2010
Way to go Haris,! I like your silat kuntau against the penvium bontot kerajaan OMNO/BN.!!!
But I cannot understanf the rubbish about “Bangsa Malaysia”.!!! I think you have a “British Colonised” mind.!!!
Bead my article “Banfsa Malaysia is Rubbish” at…..
http://warongpakyeh.blogspot.com
Boomeranger Albert
July 23, 2010
Way to go, Lawyer! Kudos, keep it up and sock it to them!
Heard nephew once so admired Rocky and his blog but now, no it’s no more, gone to the rocks of destruction!
What a shame, Rocky what?!; Balboa!? “Rock To Learn Michael!? You must have ‘gostan’! Look at the words properly; live your lives to prescribed principles! Look at yourself in the mirror, Rocky and say aloud, “A BOOMERANG WILL RETURN”! Then go out to the world and live that once prescribed life, like a well honed boomerang, will you not?
DavidKongkor
July 23, 2010
Well said Pak Haris.
The minute Rocky show his true colors, I have since stop reading his blog and for that matter all MSM papers including the TV stations.
Till now, I am still waiting to see justice for Aminul Rasyid and until the police can come clean with this, I have no more trust for the man in blue
Deep
July 23, 2010
Go for it Haris! Stir it up. Malaysia’s TRUE patriots are backing you
sing
July 23, 2010
Don’t call him ‘Rock’ anymore!
‘Cess’ would suit and match his character.
Sir, may thy tribe increase and multiply in this land.
May the Lord of heaven bless thee and cause thee to see and rejoice in the fruit of thy lbour.
Gooner
July 23, 2010
Hey don’t insult dogs! These scum are more like the fleas on a dog. Heh.
Jokes aside ‘ris, if you combined all three of these lowlife scum’s credibility you still would have a 1000 times more than them. They are only relevant to their marinated in corruption umno masters.
They and their craven masters are on the last lap of BN domination of our country. God help them when the race is over and the new government comes knocking.
We should preserve the ISA (however horrible and sick it is) and reserve it ONLY for BN component party members who were all so very very keen on maintaining it.
Do onto others as they have done onto you… 😉
mslam
July 23, 2010
When a running dog barks, he has no more dignity in him.
Rocky has no more of the steam he had once. Or was he a plant ? When stuffed with banknotes, the dark becomes bright and will bark at anything whether logical or not.
Custodial deaths is a worrisome thing to all citizens and unless one’s family had not experienced one like Kugan’s, one will never know. The nightmare and the unjustice done to these families s beyond recognition.
SABM is on the right path to highlight this in the hope that someone listens. Whether it is one death or countless does not matter. It is the lives lost that we are concerned and SABM is doing it for the betterment of all Malaysians.
rjd2
July 23, 2010
the comment by pigcheeks yunos is hilarious.
its like something an angry obese child would say in retaliation.
temp0
July 23, 2010
waiting for you to give the full breakdown of how the number 1,805 is arrived at, source reference and all…
please do it soon, unless you’re still cooking up the meterials.
temp0,
Patience
Peter
July 23, 2010
Haris, as a show of solidarity,I hereby pledge RM 500 as legal expenses in the event that these malicious accusations are brought before a court of law.
Peter,
Thanks. Very kind, but there will be no legal expenses if I am charged as the solicitors are freedom fighters and will not take money to defend me.
If you wish to, you could direct your pledge to SABM. They could use the funds for the work they are doing.
Thank you again and God bless.
joenathan
July 23, 2010
Dey Rocky,take up Harris’ challenge and fix the conundrum he throws at you. Are you man enough? The mud is staring at your face, man.
Wenger J Khairy
July 23, 2010
I concur. Those 2 bloggers are the trash cans of cyberspace. Bloated, smelly and disgusting
xcman
July 23, 2010
I used to read his blog daily and totally stop reading not long after is M&A.
xcman
July 23, 2010
I used to read his blog daily and totally stop reading it not long after his M&A.
vasantha
July 24, 2010
DearHaris,
Continue to fight the good fight.I am very proud of you. History has proven that the righteous never had it easy. You are in my prayers tonite.
rajan
July 24, 2010
Hi Harris,
LET BARKING DOGS BARK (got to bark for the money they are being paid)BUT THE CARAVAN MOVES FORTH
antipas
July 24, 2010
Dear Haris,
Please respond to Rocky’s question.How did you get the figures.That’s all. Stop beating around the bush.
smirk
July 24, 2010
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
haris is ANGRY not cool man with all the name calling
heh heh so you let your guard down hee hee hee
Xenobiologista
July 26, 2010
Don’t have time or energy to argue with anybody but a while ago I took the liberty of scanning SABM’s brochure listing (in many cases by name) those who died in custody…here ya go. https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B_-GS4PuJweuM2E5NzNlNjUtOWFlNS00Mzc1LWFlYjctZGY4OWUyZmE4Nzdh&hl=en I presume posting this online isn’t a problem since you guys were giving out out the paper copies openly for free.