UMNO says these were not their boys.
PKR says the same of these.
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Posted on October 8, 2010
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Egg
October 8, 2010
UMNO & PKR are identical twins split from the same fertilized egg.
Paul Warren
October 8, 2010
Why do we let them, i.e. UMNO and PKR and the politicians generally, describe and define events? This might be one other function that the third Force can adopt.
amd
October 8, 2010
Haris
I want to KNOW why Zaid Ibrahim is going ballistic and taking his problems to town. Esp if he is going to head this third force according to a reader’s comment in malaysiakini. Similar to yours ke?
How to support Zaid if he claims he is working for change and suddenly his behavior is like he sudah kena rasuk hantu if you know what I mean.
james
October 8, 2010
it all baout repackaging isnt pkr another umno? with these bad behaviours right now ..whaT MORE WHEN THESE COME INTO POWER? this is scary !
baDboyzs
October 8, 2010
Just because you and Zorro unmasked are buddies of Zaid ( because he is friendly to Pakatan Bloggers ) & Azmin + PKR are less than perfect ( OMG who is ? ) means you should go round town to ballast PKR, then in a kind of Save Zaid Crusade posts selective articles highlighting PKR misdeeds & mindlessly selling the idea of the 3rd ( ??? ) force because RPK says so ? What ever happened to your earlier praiseworthy sense of fair play, getting all facts first and seeing things from a wider perpective ?
Your otherwise fine judgement has been clouded by unseen forces so beware
ikonoklast
October 8, 2010
In a political party the fight for positions is bound
to be fierce.So let us look at it dispassionately and
do not lose sight of our supreme goal which is to kick
out BN in the next GE.I am not blind to the fact that
there are many lowlifes in PKR but that is an issue
which can be addressed later.
Navi
October 8, 2010
Haris,
these PKR goons- who are they? Just ordinary members probably instigated to accost Rahimi.(or are they really members) What we like to know is just who is behind them? Photos will look good in the MSMs, right? Perhaps over TV3.
If they are truly members, than PKR should take action against. Rahimi has as much right to hold a press conference as the next man, however much we would like to hate him. Isn’t that what PKR is all about? Peoples’right to free speech.
Jokersland
October 8, 2010
From all the fracas, frankly I don’t see any hope with this nation. All the political party’s still use the most deadliest weapon, ‘Religion’. Gloomy days are waiting ahead for the ordinary peasants at the end of the tunnel, if things remain stagnant. When there’s an election, politicians will come to SHAKE your hands and CONFIDENCE LATER.
Anonymous
October 8, 2010
This guy says he is contesting for PKR VP post? Is it true?
Check this out:
http://neutraldaily.blogspot.com/2010/10/video-neutral-sidang-media-rahimi-osman.html
Imagine some day PR forms the government and this guy is made a minister and his machai made officials….. (SHUDERING)
ivanyang
October 8, 2010
ikonoklast has summed up best! The big picture is to kick UMNO/BN out!
ivanyang
October 8, 2010
After watching the videos, i thot i saw one similarity and one difference. The similarity was BN and the difference was Yam I C as against Dummo.
Warga Malaysia
October 8, 2010
Haris, want to draw your attention to Right 2 write: The 3rd Voice for Ampang/ Bkt. Antarabangsa Dr. Rafick: “I have volunteered my service to Haris Ibrahim several months back to participate in the formation of a strategic group that will evaluate and endorse suitable candidates that will contest in the Ampang area.”
and a comment:
Good for you doctor. If ever UMNO/BN won your “tender” and Azmin Ali get selected as candidate, I hope everyone will help pressure the civil society to put up another candidate approved by those activists like Haris Ibrahim and RPK whom we trust. This perhaps will be the only possible 3 corner contest I may support mainly caused by your “tender” and a possibility that even those who knows about the numerous problems caused and will continue to be caused by UMNO/BN, there may be 4,000 or more of them voting and campaigning for UMNO/BN candidate.
But my good doctor, if that strange situation ever arise, wonder how would you reconcile between your undertaking to vote and campaign for the “winner” and your efforts in getting a civil society candidate for Ampang area.
non idealist
October 8, 2010
Idealist Haris cannot reconcile his current muddled thoughts with the real political world as practically what we can achieve in real life will be short of a dreamer’s expectations ( or dreams ).
We have to shout really loud to Haris for him to wake up from his Azmin-Zaid-PKR nightmare, or he will become cookoo soon
Warga Malaysia
October 8, 2010
Haris, I would assume you are intelligent to see the possibility of UMNO/BN planting agents provocateur to create negative impressions for PKR and to make the press conference more believeable. I am sure you would agree that UMNO/BN in their desperations are perfectly capable of that and hope you don’t fall into those traps.
Anyone can identify those trouble makers? Perhaps that can help answer whether those bedlam were really created by PKR supporters
ABC
October 8, 2010
This guy claims he is contesting for PKR VP post.
http://neutraldaily.blogspot.com/2010/10/video-neutral-sidang-media-rahimi-osman.html
Warga Malaysia
October 9, 2010
“Jayabalan bersama enam yang lain diketuai oleh K Sureshkumar yang menyatakan hasrat bertanding jawatan naib presiden PKR mendakwa mereka berkempen bersama Rahimi ketika pilihan raya umum 2008 yang lalu.”
That post very long and in BM so no time to read and translate the whole post, but can i assume Jayabalan is that loud roudy fellow?
However, it has occurred to me that even if eventually proved that he/they are PRR members, the possibility remains that they could be UMNO/BN moles or awakened sleepers or had been “turned” like what they do to many in Kamunting.
Warga Malaysia
October 8, 2010
Let’s see if it is possible to publish photos of the main agent provocateur?
<img src="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_sEyw6txVACs/TK8pOCjM9qI/AAAAAAAACzw/eSbxSMSEHhE/s400/agent+provocateurs+of+UMNO+BN.jpg"
Warga Malaysia
October 8, 2010
Sorry try once more time, if not go view at Agent provocateurs of UMNO/BN 1 and Unruly fellow 2 or hopefully Haris will update this post with selected screen shots of those unrully fellows and hopefully someone can identify the main one:
Warga Malaysia
October 8, 2010
Errata: A question mark was left out so reposting links to the photos with the question mark intact:
Agent provocateurs of UMNO/BN????? and Unruly fellow or hopefully Haris will update this post with selected screen shots of those unrully fellows and hopefully someone can at least identify the main one.
Jack
October 9, 2010
Sudah la Sam. From school lagi dah macam ni. Be careful of Zaid, just because he ajak u to his house, makan minum and pally pally with bloggers , you feel dia great la. I expected you to have grown up and be objective and impartial. You dgn Zorro sam a aje la.
Jay Chow
October 9, 2010
Malaysia is not ready for the 3rd force. Right now our greatest concern is to work together to KO bn. The 3rd force will be out to kill PR by splitting their votes that will eventually favor bn.
The 2 videos looks similar but one is out to discredit another person/persons whereas the 2nd one is held to solve a problem and receive feedback.
Whether it is right or wrong will entirely depends on individual viewer.
I hold high respect for Zaid but only till recently. I will think twice if I were to vote for him.
shakuntala
October 9, 2010
All this is similar to the cow-head incident and in that respect was meant to disrupt the peace.
We may assume they are agents…because it is basic and unruly.
Or are we getting accustomed to these sorts of staged incidents which are designed probably to take the peoples’ attention away from the main issues and put fear into the Ra’ayat.
The kind of fear that will make people run straight into the arms of the known. We at this juncture need freedom from the known…I mean to say being aware, being selective and using our common sense which is intelligence in another form, to help weed out the weeds and the strays.
shakuntala
October 9, 2010
Mr Jack
Zaid Ibrahim is a good person, rather more idealitically inclined. Agree he is being so at the wrong time, he should not be asking for probes, when things are clear enough as to who certain perpetrators are.
Mean to say, we have that much intelligence to know who is who.
Perhaps we need to use our persuasion to point these things out to Zaid. Quite sure he is also looking for direction from us?
Do not dismiss him,in the first place you have no right, we aught at this stage, to be rather more probing.
Carlos
October 9, 2010
Anything wrong with pakatan is always Umno / BN fault – mole, agents, trojans etc. that is the easiest excuse. Pakatan are bunch of angels that can do wrong. Same excuse from the days of Eli Wong and so on. Grow up laar. This is the what pakatan will get from the crowd of rejects. They are full of shit and trouble. Especially the no1 Umno reject – Anwar!! Which also define the rest and his followers.
troy
October 10, 2010
Why this inconsequential posting ? UMNO people do this everyday , day in day out !
Thoz there are bigger issues at hand , like helping to highlight more of Najib’s treacherous and expensive apcofied speeches ?
shakuntala
October 10, 2010
What it boils down to is that both sides…UMNO/BN and Pakatan have supporters who are totally lacking in character education and the ability to carry on a decent, reasoned dialogue….without becoming a bunch of rabble rousers.
This sort of unruly behaviour is meat for any evil-minded politician and we have quite a few of those around.
That is why we are being taken for fools……that is why there is need to change and become wiser.
The videos are merely highlighting similar behaviour on both sides….they are not comparing the goodness of one against the bad of the other.
Warga Malaysia
October 10, 2010
Steadylah Zaid Ibrahim!
Haris, how well do you know Zaid Ibrahim? Tell us what you know please
matthew francis
October 11, 2010
i say just form 3rd party and challenge pr and bn. useless twits they. let rpk, haris, zaid and mahathir lead the way.
Navi
October 11, 2010
How can the parties help it. PKR was formed by ex-UMNO and consists of ex UMNO, exMIC and ex MCA. This type of behaviour runs in their blood. It will be difficult to dislodge them.
Shamsul Yunos
October 12, 2010
there is a huge difference, the goons at rahimi insist they are from PKR but PKR deny, the goons at temple event deny they are from Umno but PKR insist that they are
Mad Logic
October 14, 2010
This is perhaps the clearest indication that these were agent provocateurs from the same organisation. The first were careful in not tarnishing umno’s name. The second was bent on tarnishing pkr’s name.
You go figure.