“Pakatan Rakyat leaders met and decided that we will field a PKR candidate and we will make the announcement (on who it is) soon. We hope SAPP won’t contest, because we want a straight fight with BN” – Anwar Ibrahim, reported by Malaysiakini today.
The same report, and an earlier report yesterday, has it that whilst PKR has yet to decide on their candidate, possibilities who have been identified include PKR Sabah chief Ahmad Thamrin Jai, Tuaran division chief Ansari Abdullah and newly-elected Batu Sapi chief Hassnar Ibrahim.
The earlier report also quoted Tian Chua as saying that Pakatan Rakyat is attempting to negotiate with SAPP in the hope of making the Batu Sapi contest a ‘one-on-one’ fight with BN.
Hassnar Ibrahim being considered?
You know this man’s resume?
If you don’t, read THIS, THIS , THIS and THIS.
My sources in Sabah tell me that this man brought absolute thuggery to the Batu Sapi divisional elections in order to secure his win.
I called Tian Chua this morning to find out if there was truth in the report with regards to the report that this man might be PKR’s choice of candidate for the forthcoming by-election and to say that if this was so, I was going to crucify PKR in blogosphere for this.
Tian said that there was no truth in the report.
‘There is no list of prospective candidates yet”, he said.
In my ‘Batu Sapi : SAPP or Pakatan Rakyat?’ post, I had suggested that both Pakatan and SAPP should come to the negotiation table, disclose their respective proposed candidate, who should be Sabahan, measure both by an MP-Aptitude test and an Integrity test and see who comes out tops.
Why should SAPP give way to Pakatan without even knowing who the latter’s candidate is?
Conversely, why should Pakatan back off from the contest without first knowing who SAPP will be offering?
Should not all parties determined to see BN beaten come together and objectively settle on the best man for the contest?
Shawn Tan
October 19, 2010
Here’s to – wishful thinking!
baDboyzs
October 19, 2010
Looking at the Grand Scheme of Things, we suspect PKR is starting to smell the holy stench of Putrajaya & beginning to feel a certain kind of power they never felt before. Those good ole days Anwar & Co Tian Chua included spend time patiently to listen to you bloggers ( like RPK etc ) for feedback and stuff like that. You guys were important to their info raw strategies vis a vis UMNO cyber-troopers. Today they feel just like that naked Emperor and has begun to rely more and more on their team of con(men) wardrobe designers. Power corrupts ! History is on course !😦
Before long they will collapse in high heaven. By then it will be too late as one more ( promising one ) bites the dusk. You 7 Malaysia just gotta be ready, as we are ( thank God we still have yede olde faithfuls PAS & DAP ):D
tkosong
October 19, 2010
Let a Sabah Local political party contest for Batu Sapi. PKR or PR should support SAPP. A Win for SAPP mean a lost for BN. And it mean a win for PKR or PR. Are PKR too power crazy to see that?
hakka
October 19, 2010
I totally agree with you on this. In view of the bad press PKR has been getting (and serve them right) recently, they should put party politics aside and concentrate on fielding the best candidate for the post.
khoo
October 19, 2010
SAPP concentrate on the state seat and PR on the palimentary seat
Balik
October 19, 2010
PKR balik lah or prepare to lose your deposit.
CYC
October 19, 2010
Why should PKR be given the seat without justification ? Who are PR to decided the fate of Sabahan without consultation ? Is SAPP raw meat just for PKR’s consumption ? The arrogance shown by PKR will resulted them being buried alive in Sabah & Sarawak. Let Sabahan lead in this by election for heaven sake.
Sean
October 19, 2010
Sorry for offtopic, but is TC still an MP? What is the score with that? Are we all closing one eye, pretending that the judge wasn’t an innumerate idiot and that the ‘movement for change’ can more effectively bring reform to the legal system if it breaks the law en route? I’m only asking, natch.
nathan
October 19, 2010
Yes I totally agree with Haris, that the ‘Best/Better’ man form either party to contest to make it Straight Fight againt the BN!
ps.
arianna
October 19, 2010
Taadaa! I’m back. When it comes to Sabah, I just can’t stay quiet.
Hi Haris, how are you?
Ahmad Thamrin, Ansari and Hassnar? Field them anywhere in Sabah and they will never win! We, Sabahans, know their true colours only too well.
Sapp or DAP have a better chance than PKR in Batu Sapi. Seriously, PKR would be doing itself a great favour if the party stay out of the by-election. PKR IS in for a humiliating defeat. Period.
Still, don’t expect too much for a Sapp victory. Even if Datuk Yong Teck Lee contests. It will take a miracle for them to win. There are too many backdoor voters, courtesy of Project IC. And, we, in Sabah wonder how Batu Sapi has so many muslim population!
There. I’ve painted a bleak picture for the oppositions but that’s the truth.
A decrease in the number of votes majority for BN and an increase in votes for the opposition is considered a victory for the latter. That’s the best scenario we can expect.
You’ve been busy, I see. But take care, will you.
Cheers.
arianna,
Always good to hear from you, especially your take on Sabah.
You come back real soon , you hear
shar101
October 19, 2010
Aaahhh .. PKR’s very own Bung Mukhtar.
Anwar would be proud.
Jong
October 19, 2010
Since when has Anwar/PKR ever practised the policy of getting “the best man for the right job” without self-interest and the insecurity of being threatened?
For the sake of Pakatan Rakyat, Anwar should realise his limitation when his own party election is in a mess. He should seriously see to it that those ‘trojan horses’ are driven out before more damage is done to PKR and Pakatan Rakyat!
Rightly PKR should step aside and let DAP within the PR coalition lead the way in Batu Sapi.
DAP and PAS are definitely more stable, competent and in capable hands but since PAS has to concentrate on homeground to ensure a Galas win, the right choice should be a DAP candidate for Batu Sapi!
AgreeToDisagree
October 19, 2010
That is why even a 3rd Force candidate is better. We can’t be subject to the whim and fancy of a political party all the time. Anyone who means well for the people should run and the people should vote for him too. What do they think they are brokering for straight fights or what not? It’s the citizens who will decide, and if thugs can be among the choices, or lists of preferred candidates imposed on citizens, then the political party’s judgment and culture become immediately suspect. Who needs that sort of MP to write policy for the Rakyat? So run for election if you the grassroots Rakyat see fit and give your fellow citizens other choices.
And 3rd Force candidates should band together with whatever friendly coalitions to rubberstamp that election deposit from 15,000 to 15.00 so that every Malaysian can join as an MP as is their democratic right, we are not here to breed a plutocratic culture, we are here to ensure every citizen not be barred from running for election simply because he is poor.
Paul Warren
October 19, 2010
Here we go again. PKR assuming that the way the political game is to be played is that they decide who the candidate should be for any one constituency.
I just want to ask them one question. What it is exactly that qualifies their choice? How does their chosen candidate qualify to be the candidate? What criteria was used to select him or her? Do they dare set out the criteria?
If they cannot respond to this, can we, the people go all out to undermine their candidate at this election?
It is about time we the rakyat use this Batu Sapi election to tell the vote bank (By vote bank, I mean that number of voters who will not vote BN under any circumstances) to let PKR and PR know that it is not for them to select their candidate.
We the people, as represented by SABM, can show what it is we want. Does the candidate know and can he commit to the People’s Declaration? Does he know what his tasks and responsibilities are as an MP? Does he have the required skill set and knowledge to be an MP?
Honestly I have had enough of political parties telling me that this or that guy is the best man for the job. I want to see how this guy scores when tested against these criteria before I give him my support.
Haris, it is about time PR know that we mean business. If they are going to name anyone before I can see the criteria against which he is assessed, I’ll do what ever I can to ensure his loss!!
looes74
October 19, 2010
Harris,
When the American government announce of giving free lands in the west, you think that they are going to be civil about. Rather it’s about flag planting session.
Hence, while Fuziah made the announcement immediately after the death of Edmund Chong. I am extremely unhappy over this because one need to go through Pakatan Rakyat High Council first before any decision is made. Then, SAPP comes in
Furthermore, negotation with SAPP is more like playing poker game. Worst still, strategically, it would be extremely stupid to reveal your would be candidates. Right now, it’s a brinkmanship game between SAPP, PBS & PR.
I believe PR has known its strength before going for the kill. Of course, further negotiation can still go on but then, if all things fail…..I say lets have threesome.
Anyway, it’s been decided that PKR would stand in as PR candidate. I strongly suggest that folks like Jeffrey, Ansari, Thamrin & even Christina should thrown out of the competition….Why? If I got a chance, I tell Anwar in the face…..Remember Bagan Pinang or Hulu Selangor…..
Regardless of polls irregularities, choosing the right candidate woudl be vital in winning Batu Sapi. I heard Kong Hon Min is good….Better still, if Anwar can rope in Francis Chung. If he’s indeed humble or good at serving the community.
I supported Shanty Chong, former magistrate but since it must be from PKR, I hope that Anwar would choose the right candidate for the right job.
In Batu Sapi by election, 3 corner fight can be good too. I am a bit relieved that Hiew, Kota Kinabalu MP leading the operation. In his 3 corner fight, he won. With the right strategy, PR will win…
Jong
October 19, 2010
Looes74,
Keep hoping! Anwar never have eye for good people; he never has and will never have – he’s that dumb otherwise he won’t be going through “Sodomy II” so soon after “Sodomy I”!
And he is still so stubborn.
abuzar rashid
October 19, 2010
It will not be polite to call PKR bodoh or bangang even though they behave exactly like one; so lets just refer to them as kurang cerdek. To top it all the bossman in PKR just never knew how to assess a person – PKR’s history is full of the shits who were selected to contest for posts but who never performed but instead turned around and hold the party to ransom. And they never learn. High time Zaid and Izzah takes over.
looes74
October 19, 2010
Abuzar,
Honestly, Zaid is the drummer. Heard of S Rajaratnam. Azmin Ali with correct organisational skills should fit in the role as Party man. Sorry to say, it’s still lacking. Nurul is kinda too young…I don’t mean age but in terms of political acumen.
You know LKY was 32 years old when he set up PAP & 37 years old when he becomes PM of Singapore. Unlike Najib, be built the party with the help of right candidates from scratch.
If Azmin wanna get the DP, he must show the leadership. At times, he must be magnanimous. Certain actions say otherwise.
You know, in PKR, you have MTUC….Harnest them. Instead of gunning down people, you can be the unifier…..If Zaid can demonstrate that skill, he can have the job….
Abuzar,
To me, Zaid is more like Rajaratnam…The drummer, the Thinker who look things from bird eye view
Jong
October 19, 2010
LOL!!! Abuzar Rashid – Terima Kasih for reminding with those polite words but can you blame the frustration many of us feel after having helped and supported those elected MPs/Reps to where they are today and they turn out to be monkeys ‘kurang cerdek’? Sigh!
Batu Sapi voter
October 19, 2010
If this guy is to contest for PKR, it will be tragedy for PKR. PKR still has plenty of trustworthy leaders and how the hell if they really select this fellow. PKR is really a tong sampah party. Should I go to vote or stay at home.
AgreeToDisagree
October 20, 2010
Don’t waste your vote. How about running for candidacy yourself if you can afford it?
PeeKR
October 20, 2010
Cast a spoilt vote. If possible scribble on the ballot “PKR sucks”, not sure if it’s an offense though.😉
looes74
October 20, 2010
Batu Sapi voters,
Who then? Kong Hon Min as you mention. Don’t mind if you provide more information on those PKR leaders that would be more suitable to lead the fight.
However, if it’s Ansari, Thamrin, Jeffrey or worst Christina, I suggest Anwar should just hand over to DAP.
By the way, DAP is leading on the operations. 3 corner fight can be a good thing
AgreeToDisagree
October 20, 2010
As a guiding criteria in choice of candidate :
Anyone who causes conflict of interest via family Oligarchy/Nepotism, patronage politics, vested business interests or writes policies/by-laws that indirectly benefit him through related or unrelated proxies should be identified as *UNSUITABLE*.
Politics should be the skill of the righteous within any political party SPECIFICALLY in rooting out and identifying such people *FOR* the Rakyat. Otherwise it is mere thuggery as evidenced by the violence in the guise of ‘peoples power’.
Ansari, Thamrin or Christina, even if from DAP, if not part of the ‘unsuitables’ list would be better than someone who will cause trouble by who they are later. Remember, those too powerful, well networked or wealthy will end up controlling the party and the voters, so make sure that such people never are chosen for anything as they will not be there for the Rakyat but rather themselves.
looes74
October 20, 2010
Ah so, Nurul was not qualified….You should stood for parliament or DUN
Aiyaaa……
Oooi,
Harris & Zorro supported Nepotism????
Ellese
October 20, 2010
It’s pkr election time. Of course it has to nominate someone from pkr to contest. Otherwise someone will loose votes for deputy president and vp positions.
k1
October 20, 2010
Off topic…Tan Zhong Shan, best student in Cambridge Law School from Ipoh “but” with scolarship from Singapore. Lucky that he will practise his law in Singapore, because in bolehland, only the jagung kampung lawyer can do law here..all control by makmak correct correct correct lauyah
kumaresan atthapilai
October 20, 2010
The fact is that SAPP and PKR also want to seize power in Sabah…the Sabahan especially in Batu Sapi should watch out for PKR is coming to your hometown to make good deeds at the same time they are poisoning your mind so that they can take control over you…
Why don’t PKR let SAPP pave the way in Batu Sapi? PKR should know that they are not the local based party. To all Sabahan, be grateful that under BN coalition adminitration, Sabah also has achieved prosperity and developed…all of a sudden the outsider political party had become the people’s champion of justice and democracy while all this time there has been no improvement on their own side..we should take a look at PKR party election with chaos, DAP racism agenda and PAS that had been neglected by PKR and DAP…would we want this type of coalition to rule our country?
looes74
October 20, 2010
Kumaresan,
Taib Mahmud is using the same reason to stay in power. As so….SNAP in Bumi Kenyalang never claim to be liek Taiko unlike SAPP….Ah so…
Have you really checked the taiko of SAPP? First, he condemn the rest opposition parties saying that they ain’t local enough….Hello, DAP had 4 MPs in Sabah during the 1986 GE…..Guess what, Sandakan was one of them. Batu Sapi was part of Sandakan then. You mean that in those days, Sabahan are stupid. According to YTL’s perverted logic, my question would be why DAP MPs was elected. That’s 1986. Almost 10 years, YTL goes on his own with SAPP from PBS
Then, Yong Teck Lee demanded for 40 state seats unilaterally….Hiew, Sabah DAP chairman blew his top over this very high handed strategy by this Taiko. Harris has highlighted this Hasnar fella, Batu Sapi chairman.
Kumaresan,
Tell me what so difference between Hasnar & YTL. YTL was the leader of SAPP. Ask SAPP….What happen to those 2 state adun under Sandakan? It speaks wonder on YTL’s political management skills…..as much as you condemn….seems SAPP not much different.
With such kinda leadership plus high handedness, I say lets have a threesome
taufiq
October 22, 2010
if u call joe fernandez a reporter, the najib is an angel!!
looes74
October 23, 2010
Harris,
So chai so how so now, supporting SAPP? Yong Teck Lee as candidate for SAPP…Well, you can accuse Hasnar as thug ( I am not supporting Hasnar to be candidate), Yong is worst…..Eat this
http://selvarajasomiah.wordpress.com/2010/08/11/yong-teck-lee-sinking-in-his-own-spin-the-art-of-bullshit/