On 21st September, in relation to the alleged sacking of PKR former deputy sec-gen Jenapala Perumal subaan, I wrote in my ‘The noose is tightening…’ post :
“I spoke to Saifudin a little while ago, whilst earlier this morning, I spoke to Jenapala and another PKR insider who would definitely be in the know as to the goings-on in the party at the material time.
Jenapala confirmed that he had never received any show cause notice from the party, nor was called to attend any disciplinary committee inquiry. He said that to-date, he has not received any formal notification of any decision by the party supreme council of his sacking and his right to appeal any such decision.
“If I was sacked in February, 2009 as they now claim, why would I join Dato Seri Anwar and campaign in the Hulu Selangor by-elections last April?” , Jenapala asked.
The party insider who spoke to me earlier today confirms Jenapala’s claims.
“Salleh ( the former party Sec-Gen ) would be able to confirm whether any disciplinary proceedings were commenced, but I am very certain there has not been any decision of the supreme council in February, 2009 or before, to sack Jenapala. Something is not right. Saifudin better check his facts”, the person said.
Saifudin informed me that when he checked the records at party HQ yesterday, he came upon a letter issued from HQ to Jenapala of and concerning the latter”s sacking from the party.
I asked who had signed the letter.
Saifudin said that he could not recall and that he would be re-checking to ascertain that fact”.
On 23rd September, in my ‘Was Jenapala sacked or not?…’ post, I wrote :
“PKR Sec-Gen Saifudin Nasution held a press conference yesterday where he reiterated once again that deputy president aspirant Jenapala Perumal Subaan had been sacked from the party. Malaysiakini has the report HERE.
I was on the phone with Saifudin twice today.
In the first, I asked if he had confirmation of the letter that he had told me earlier had been sent to Jenapala to notify him of the latter’s sacking from the party.
What was the date of the letter and who signed it, I asked.
Saifudin confirmed that the letter was issued in February, 2009 and signed by the then Sec-Gen, Sallehuddin Hashim”.
My several attempts to get a copy of that letter proved futile.
Jenapala took the matter of his alleged sacking to court.
He wanted the court to declare, amongst other things, that he was still a member of PKR.
He named Wan Azizah, Syed Husin, and Saifudin as defendants.
The matter came up for hearing today.
To oppose Jenapala’s contention that he was still a member of the party, Saifudin filed an affidavit-in-reply.
In this affidavit, the letter by which Jenapala was said to have been notified of his sacking was finally disclosed.
It is a letter dated 2nd February, 2009 and purports to have been signed by then PKR sec-gen Sallehudin Hashim.
Sallehuddin then filed an affidavit to refute the authenticity of this letter.
These documents have now all been posted at MalaysiaToday.
Sallehuddin emphatically swears that :
- the letter was never issued or authorised to be issued by him
- Jenapala was never sacked during Sallehuddin’s tenure
- the minutes of the meeting of the party politburo on 30/8/2009 bears out that the party was then contemplating whether to suspend Jenapala
Malaysiakini reports today that the High Court dismissed Jenapala’s suit.
According to counsel for PKR, “the judge had found in their favour after a three-hour proceeding in chambers based on section 18(c) of the Societies Act”.
Co-counsel for PKR, Razlan Hadri Zulkifli, is quoted as saying : “The judge is essentially saying, ‘Politicians, take your woes elsewhere’ or else the courts will be filled up with complaints from disgruntled politicians”.
For the uninitiated, Section 18C of the Societies Act, 1966 was introduced by an amendment in 1990 following the mess that UMNO found itself in after the numerous challenges to decisions taken by Mahathir.
Section 18C : The decision of a political party or any person authorised by it or by its constitution or rules or regulations made thereunder on the interpretation of its constitution, rules or regulations or on any matter relating to the affairs of the party shall be final and conclusive and such decision shall not be challenged, appealed against, reviewed, quashed or called in question in any court on any ground, and no court shall have jurisdiction to entertain or determine any suit, application, question or proceeding on any ground regarding the validity of such decision.
Basically, Mahathir did not want any decision of the party to be challenged in court.
So he contrived to have the ouster clause that section 18C really is introduced into our law.
Malaysiakini also reports PKR v-p Sivarasa to be quite pleased with the outcome of the case today.
I guess Siva’s viewpoint on ouster clauses has changed somewhat of late.
Can someone please remind me what the ‘K’ in PKR stands for.
The People's Parliament 
Rahman Hyder
November 25, 2010
“Konfused”?
Sulaiman Yusof.
November 26, 2010
“K” mean Kongkolikong”. Apparently PKR does look like Party Kongkolikongkan Rakyat”. Sorry to be blunt.
Jong
November 25, 2010
Aptly, “Kelamkabut”?
AgreeToDisagree
November 25, 2010
This is a sham election! 8% members?!? How does this count as democratic? *WAIT* for the other 92% or try to look them up with form in hand to ask them to vote! Don’t be lazy or undemocratic. This sort of kelam kabut attitude makes Malaysia into a joke.
I propose the entire election be carried out in a proper manner at once. This is a farce! Bloody murder of democracy!
How should this Local Council Election have been done?
1) Put out adverts (as they did) asking PKR members to nominate or apply for candidacy. This nomination form will be sent to ALL members to fill in.
2) The top 20 will candidates who pass vetting will be put on a form. Send this form with that list of candidates to EVERY member’s address nationwide asking them to vote.
3) Wait 6 months for the recipients to post back this form with the 20 selectable candidates.
This would cost 20 sen per letter to send making the cost 1M for PKR which has 5 million people. To absorb the cost, 50 sen in stamps must be sent in with each vote as well.
4) Counting begins. results posted in newspaper.
NOT get a bunch of 10% cronies to effectively FIX the election by effectively not making elections available to the public! Someone should sue DAP! So what if Nurul or Tian Chua got top votes? Thats not even 1% of the entire PKR membership!
REDO ! REDO ! USE THE ABOVE METHOD!
And again, please end the APARTHEID as well!
1) Freedom from Apartheid/Fascism
2) Freedom from Religious-Persecution/Religious-Supremacy.
3) Equality for all ethnicities and faiths in all aspects of policy, Law and Constitution.
Put someone neutral in charge of this new election, like your coalition partners – DAP or PAS could watch over PKR elections and PKR-PAS for DAP, and DAP-PKR over PAS! That’s REAL democracy!
REDOOOOO!!!! Takbiiiiirrrr…!!! (Takbir for Muslims heh.)
shar101
November 25, 2010
Sooo … does this mean that PKR won’t get de-registered by the ROS?
Or perhaps, UMNO Baru, with its stranglehold on the Judiciary, would rather let loose PKR within the PR stable in order to kick up more dust to choke on their journey towards ‘Pootrajaya‘.
Jenapala may have lost out but Sallehuddin’s affidavit challenges PKR’s raison d’etre i.e. its party Kons … errr … Constitution.
And the konstipation kontinues ….
Bob
November 26, 2010
Korek
Tidak Bernama
November 26, 2010
K = Kemut
adiltakadil
November 26, 2010
how ironic…a party that was formed to fight “fitnah” is now resorting to fitnah…sheer hypocrisy!!!
Malaysian Care
November 26, 2010
Kebohongan?
kiasu
November 26, 2010
“Kroni” only exclusively!
jaas torres
November 26, 2010
Kenakan?
alibabu
November 26, 2010
Parti Kelentong,..kuntau,..kucing,..kurap,,,Keranamu Anwar,..Keranamu Azmin,..Rakyat (PKR)
urangsabah
November 26, 2010
I m Konfused..look like an UMNed campaign to bring PR down……
Say up front la….now it is just like PKR bashing…..seem UMNO is now a darling….
Maybe $$$$$ is very strong…….Yah PKR is now shit, bring down….if PKR is taken out…I guess definite the UMNO $$$$$ WILL FLOW IN……
Sulaiman Yusof.
November 26, 2010
“K” bermaksud “kongkolikong”. PKR seumpama Parti Kongkolikongkan Rakyat”.
wandererAUS
November 26, 2010
Move on fellas!!!…this is not a perfect world.
What is our priority? To capture Putrajaya in the next GE or, prematurely establish a Third Force with one common ideology. Worse of all, wasting precious time engaging in trivial matter/s which in this case was already decided by the court!
Guwawijaya
November 26, 2010
K = Koruptsi, Kronisma, powerKrazy
clear conscience
November 26, 2010
Knock Me Out
Guwawijaya
November 26, 2010
If Saifuddin said the dismissal letter wa ssigned by Salludin Hashim, who in turn filed an affidavit to refute the authenticity of this letter, then what does that make Saifuddin?
More importantly, what does this say of Saifuddin’s claims that most complaints on the questionable integrity of the party polls for the deputy president’s post have been solved?
shakuntala
November 26, 2010
Malaysian style, substitute C for K and you get KOWARDS,
Boleh lah, for everything. This is Bolehland,now, after Mahathir….anything goes.
Are our courts increasingly becoming places to dismiss rather than defend …according to the interpretation of the PKR counsel.
Then where do we go to seek proper justice?
Jong
November 26, 2010
“a party that was formed to fight “fitnah” is now resorting to fitnah” – adiltakadil
Hypocrisy it is! Worst is the whole election is allegedly fraud and Anwar condones it, screamed its own member CheguBard! Anwar sure looks good at throwing stones, …lempar batu sembunyi tangan!!!
And Pakatan Rakyat wants him to be PM if and when PR gets to Putra Jaya? Will Pakatan Rakyat supporters agree? The man cannot be trusted anymore, he has failed us and pkr is no more relevant to Pakatan Rakyat.
The PM post should be left to able and capable leaders within Pakatan Rakyat and Anwar needs to get in the long queue!
Remie
November 26, 2010
Now that the Trojan horses are embedded in PKR, why does UMNO want the dissolve it?
PKR will now allow the Trojan horses to win the next elections, then, defect to BN.
How convenient.
It will be instructive to see Anwar’s reaction from behind his jail bars. As he will be in there before GE13 is called. His new Deputy overseeing PKR’s return to UMNO.
steven dass
November 26, 2010
hidup mahathir!
charleskiwi
November 26, 2010
Is that why Mahathir is better known as a shenanigan ?
The one thing he is good at is his training for Anwar.
utopia unlimited
November 26, 2010
You have through this posting, once again laid bare your true motives which is to pronounce PKR guilty of all those irregularities that you have alleged & highlighted some many months ago.
All of which belies your self proclaimed status of being fair & neutral in the local Malaysian political arena-the so called pursuit of absolute truth.
By aligning yourself to the other de facto Champion of Malaysian Truth & Justice RPK ( now based in London ), you have inadvertently elevated your status from a mundane “civil rights” lawyer into a considerable higher (advanced) level in the Malaysian Political landscape to those unknowing couldn’t careless readers of your blog.
Under the disguise of the Guardian Angel 3rd Force you have plans of becoming a Kingmaker – of which we shall be watching you closely, not as being concerned of you succeeding but as of when you will become ultimately exposed for your true motives knowing that you will have no impact of the outcome of the 13th GE of Malaysia, save for achieving your ulterior motives of which we can only speculate as of now
Sabahan18
November 26, 2010
Well said Utopia. You seem to have a good grasp of what the writer’s intention is in wanting to become ‘somebody’ in Malaysian politics.
I seriously wonder why the blogger is hell bent on trying to convince the readers that PKR and its de facto leader are nothing but evil reincarnates.
Is it to pave way for his ultimate desire of being somebody? He has been quoted as saying that the Third Force may force 3-corner fights but RPK always maintain that the Third Force is to ensure the opposition have better candidates.
Moreover, RPK also wrote that the office bearers won’t be offered as candidates, it begs to be seen if the blogger will keep a position for himself.
If he doesn’t, then it’s clear that he has had ulterior motives all this while…
Rahman Hyder
November 26, 2010
we want umno out, AND we don’t want another umno in its place. don’t you guys get that? we want an honest and transparent government in malaysia. if pkr can’t organize party elections freely and fairly, can’t address all the complaints convincingly, what does that tell you about the pkr leadership?
grow up, guys.
shar101
November 26, 2010
Listen up both of you,
On the eve of nomination day for GE12, Haris received a call from LGE who wanted to ‘assign’ a seat for him in Penang.
Another blogger and I were with Haris at the time and we heard him say “Let me consult my team (Barisan Rakyat Bloggers)”.
By the time Haris turned towards us, we were already shaking our heads.
Without any hesitation, Haris called LGE and said “Sorry, no can do” and he has remained that way ever since.
Meanwhile, I have seen on numerous times when the temptation to be ‘turned over’ by both PR and BN were evidently great. And yet, Haris kept his word.
RPK went through the same predicament.
MCLM is a platform to inculcate and restore good governance for the nation.
I am therefore glad that both RPK and Haris are helming it. And they are not alone.
GE13 is for PR to lose, not for BN to keep Putrajaya. Bear that in mind.
Sooo … what’s your ulterior motive for writing as you did?
Sabahan18
November 26, 2010
shar101,
Let me start by telling your goodself that I have no ulterior motive, not all. I’m just an ordinary Malaysian who wants to effect changes as much as most people out there.
My point is that, if the blogger’s intention is to ensure that the coalition the people hope to replace BN is kept in check, it’s all good. But unfortunately, most of his articles are nothing but a PKR and Anwar bashing.
Is PKR perfect? Hell no! Is Anwar a saint? Hell no! But rather than point out things that are, at best, mostly hearsay and acts of internal sabotage
to side certain parties, why doesn’t he instead write articles on how to better things?
GE13 is for PR to lose? Come on now! I want BN out as much as the next guy but let’s be realistic; we need Sabah and Sarawak. I’m not sure about the latter but I can tell you this, in my state, the only way for BN to lose is if PBS pulls out of BN.
And I’m sorry but if you have been to Sabah and actually speak with the people there, they will tell you this; who cares about Jeffrey Kitingan?
And to add to my point of this blogger going on a witch hunt against PKR and Anwar, he makes it sound as if Jeffrey is a political powerhouse and just because someone else was made head, the blogger envisions that PKR is doomed in Sabah.
Oh, btw, Zaid was never the favorite in Sabah; it’s nothing but spin doctoring by those who are aligned to him. Majority of the PKR members there find him ‘temberang’ and would have never voted for him.
Lastly, as for your claim about the blogger being offered a seat in PG, I’m not gonna doubt you. I just find it strange that LGE will offer a seat to a non-DAP member.
‘s all.
Thanks 🙂
kiasu
November 26, 2010
PKR and its de facto leader are indeed evil reincarnates.
There’s nothing to prove….we can all see what’s happening around them now.
shakuntala
November 26, 2010
Mr. Rahman Hyder
You only addressed the guys…..here’s a gal saying yes, in answer to your question. PKR leadership seems weak and self-serving. And dishonest.
We cannot oust them totally, we have to keep reminding them to reform, at least those that sincerely want to.And some of them, we do know are sincere.
Those who want change like us, have to sincere and inform us ….what are their plans, what are they trying to achieve for the people and the country? Please let us know.
Rahman Hyder
November 26, 2010
dear ms shakuntala
if you want to know, please watch this space.
kiasu
November 26, 2010
PKR leadership DISHONEST.
That about sums up their integrity….and we expect these dishonest leaders to lead their followers and become our leaders?
durvan
November 26, 2010
k stands for Kucar-Kacir…
-D
temenggong
November 26, 2010
Section 18C is unconstitutional, as citizens should always have the right of redress in the courts. It is a basic principle of law. The same applies with shareholders, who take the company and other shareholders to court, after exhausting appeals at the EGM.
But I guess our judges are not activist minded and not not set aside the amendment.
temenggong
November 26, 2010
correction last line:
…would not set aside the amendment.
sensible guy
November 26, 2010
Rahman Hyder/Shar101
Both are you appear to be firmly entrenched on the side of steroidised Haris ( means good over evil ) and seem to think PKR is bad/useless/failure and should be neutralised ( or eliminated ).
You might be sincere &/or honest but to my mind, like Haris lack a strategic focus as when you are into the bigger battles, you freeze and behave with lostness/illogical emotion.
Just remember this ancient military adage of effective war commanders – the enemy of my enemy is my friend and vice versa, for now. For tomorrow is another day. Utopia/perfection is in the realm of children’s fantasies
“Idealist” Haris ( so it seems, but now extremely arrogant ) is too emotional and unsuitable to be in combat ( as he is now trying to, as a stooge of RPK ). He should write in the background ( safe in the office ) but not expose himself in the killing battlefield as what he pretends to do now, sleeping with PKR’s enemies and rubbing asses ( like a “prosecuting laywer”). He should stay clear of PKR sniper battles/skirmishes and concentrate on writing about the bigger WAR ( the GE13 & Putrajaya of course ), like the super award winning CNN War Correspondent/Journalist that he aspires to be all this while.
Most of all he must stop pretending that he is the ultimate harbinger of all that is right. Politics is complex and things might not appear to be what it is , and vice versa. Right now may be wrong tomorrow. Understand what is a mirage. Red herrings might even be blue !
A war is frequently won on unique leadership,bravery, stamina, risks and yes, luck & right timing.
Neither RPK nor Haris has what it takes here to be in real combat. Maybe Anwar…who knows
Mad Logic
November 26, 2010
Sensible guy seem to be anything but sensible. The oft-repeated “imperfection” of PKR and DSAI seem to be a ready excuse for all manner of corruption, injustices and most important of all subversion of the will of the people.
To pretend that nothing is happening other than our basic human imperfection is to be like the ostrich with its head stucked in the sand. Now that’s a great military strategy 😉
Always remember that in any political war the prize is NOT putrajaya but the hearts and minds of the rakyat.
I suppose this silly little foot soldier is achieving much in this respect 😉 .
utopia unlimited
November 27, 2010
Exactly Mad Logic ( hopefully you are not really mad ! )
Haris should ( by intelligent logic ), move away from his wobbly wishy washy ” Hey I am blady lost ” stand now as a pretender “Devils Advocate”, & as a furious scorned PKR Ex-Lover, and go back to his original Peoples’ Parliament of wiping out evil BN.
His many frantic & biased postings and artificial writing here of late may confused the weak and the lost, which sadly will be the 95 % of the Rakyat, whose hearts and minds we must win to eject BN.
Fast becoming senile Haris is doing the exact opposite, & may yet kill the Golden Goose…being the office boy that he really is.
Leave the hardened battle & fights on the battlefield to the Commanders & soldiers of PKR, DAP & PAS…
…and the willy nilly 2 sen comments/gossips to us inconsequential armchair/sofa aircond gossipers
(like me & you )
shar101
November 26, 2010
Sensible guy,
I much prefer ‘the enemy of my enemy is my ally’.
Because to be my friend, one needs more than just to apply military strategies. Never mind, you won’t be able my follow contention.
Sooo .. let’s make do with an extrapolation of Sun Tzu’s Art of War – In waging war and before the first warrior steps on the battlefield, the scholars have done their homework in enemy territory.
And let me throw you a curve ball – What makes you think PAS and DAP are NOT preparing themselves in light of PKR’s troubling times?
Haris’s life is like an open book (through his postings here at TPP) with his name prominently shown on its cover. So is RPK via MT. Rahman Hyder is .. well .. Rahman Hyder. I’m shar101 in cyberspace since June 2006, a derivative of my real name – Sharifuddin.
We have stood up and moved beyond words in order to take back this nation from BN.
What have you done lately, Sensible guy, apart from commenting under a pseudonym?
Rahman Hyder
November 26, 2010
sensible guy
take a deep breath and calm down.
i didn’t say pkr is bad/useless/failure etc etc.
i agree with haris that there should be transparency in EVERYTHING that they do. and right now that’s missing.
Midnight Rider
November 26, 2010
In every establishment there will definitely be an Ah Long, Ali or Samy who will be the Trojan horses and bring the establishment down for good. As far as I am concerned,lets focus on how to get to the common folks and start canvassing for the coming election. One will never know when the election is coming. One thing I am certain. That is, they will destabilise as many oppositions as possible with every possible means, confuse the general public, wear them out and in the end the common person will go out and vote for the corrupt politicians as before.Therefore I have started my canvassing, i.e.” IT DOES NOT MATTER WHO STANDS AGAINST BN, JUST VOTE FOR THE OPPOSITION.” Otherwise all our cries for change will come to naught.I suggest you big guys sit down at the round table and settle your differences as quickly as possible. “ANY THREE CORNERED FIGHT WILL DEFINITELY BE A DISASTER FOR PR, PERIOD.” COME ON GUYS, GET MOVING !
shakuntala
November 26, 2010
Fire away, Mr. Sensible Guy….facts are sacred, opinion is free. Your tirade against Haris is, remember one man’s opinion.
Think he’s used to itching opinion makers, like yourself who stretch it a bit too far,sometimes, to sound wise and convincing…..all the ideas of war, battle, combat,Utopia,strategy…for goodness sake stop scratching so hard. You may hurt yourself….tomorrow.
On this blog there are as many opinions, as there are people in the world.
So feel free.
sensible guy
November 27, 2010
Thanks for the feedback shakuntala
You & I are just armchair gossipers so there is really no need to get upset by my frank opinion !
I believe Haris is off track & need help from us. He analyses complex issues for analysis sake, and provides blurred/biased remedies. Then more seriously he is seen to be anti PKR. He can of course criticise intelligently but not get emotional and let people think he has an ulterior motive ( which I suspect ). He should be neutral & be able to see the big picture with a long term view.
Do not praise him, just hammer him because he is really lost. Or is he ? 🙂
urangsabah
November 27, 2010
Again I read but I still dun understand….what exactly do you guy hope 2 achieve by highlighting all thing bad abt PKR…….I can understand if it come from Ridzuan Tee, A Money Safe of the lost making Utusan…..theie aim is simple ensure UMNO remain in power.
But u guys..I dun get it……I do not see it. PR is not i power yet and in state they r in power, they r subject to shot from all …..
Guys simple question this world is not perfect..we in Sabah hv been suffering all our 47 yrs in Malaysia…all under UMNO. U decide who u want..dun beat around the bush……
I can only hope n pray that UMNO n UMNOed Be End b wipe out in the next GE.
Rakyat is King……….but sad 4 Malaysia..$$$$$ seem to be the power.
PKR is no saint, but UMNO n UMNOed Be End has proven for 53 years 2 be the greatest devil of all.
Remie
November 27, 2010
You in Sabah should be ashamed of yourselves. While West Malaysia created a tsunami, you guys simply decided to play safe and continue to vote BN. You deserve the Government you have since independence. Including the turncoat KDM leaders of PBS/PBRS/etc. Those guys are still leaders of Sabah, no? They do an Anwar on you and you continue to allow them to do so, year-in & year-out, election after election.
Simply collect the payout from BN each election time and vote them in. Then, bitch some more until the next election time. Then, collect & vote BN in, again.
Same way you bitch about the illegals. Bitch like crazy but you collect rent from the rooms/shacks you built for them. Employ them in your businesses & plantations or rent out your lands to them to cultivate. Because you simply pay them pittance compared to what you have to pay other Malaysians (like all those unemployed Tamil youths in Semenanjung). But you keep them out, don’t you? Flexing your immigration rights under the 20 points.
Then, you complain about the local Chinese businessmen charging high prices as they are in cahoots with BN. Yet, you will not allow Semenanjung Chinese businessmen to come to Sabah to compete against them to break the monopoly.
Go figure!
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