Secular state? Islamic state? Or near-bankrupt state?

Posted on October 23, 2012


In parliament yesterday, replying to a question by Seremban MP John Fernandez, Minister in the PM’s Department, Nazri Aziz, according to Malaysiakini, stressed that we are not a secular state and stopped short of declaring Malaysia to be an Islamic state.

In 2001, his then boss, Mahathir, did not stop short.

He declared Malaysia to be an Islamic country.

Then, MCA and Gerakan acquiesced to this by their total silence.

Six years later, Nazri’s present boss, then only DPM, was reported by Malaysiakini to have declared Malaysia to be an Islamic state, and not secular.

Again, where were MCA and Gerakan.

I reproduce here what I wrote then.

“Have you not read the Reid Commission report, that document that bears testimony to the selfless work of our leaders of days gone by?

Tun Salleh Abas did, in extenso, in the case of Che Omar Che Soh. I have referred to this in an earlier post entitled ‘Historical and Constitutional Position of Islam Judicially Examined’

Let me reproduce for you here the relevant excerpt from Tun Salleh’s judgment.

…we have to set aside our personal feelings because the law in this country is still what it is today, secular law, where morality not accepted by the law is not enjoying the status of law. Perhaps that argument should be addressed at other forums or at seminars and, perhaps, to politicians and Parliament. Until the law and the system is changed, we have no choice but to proceed as we are doing today.”

Do you know what Tunku’s view was on this secular / Islamic state issue?

See what Tunku said on the occasion of his 80th birthday as reported by the Star in February, 1983.

Tunku said :

‘The country has a multi-racial population with various beliefs. Malaysia must continue as a secular State with Islam as the official religion’. 

Tunku was not alone.

This is how the report in the Star reads :

‘Former Prime Minister Tun Hussein Onn has supported Tunku Abdul Rahman’s view that Malaysia should not be turned into an islamic state…”The nation can still be functional as a secular state with Islam as the offical religion,” he said’

So, Nazri, go stick your head up an elephant’s arse!

Kit Siang, who was in parliament then, I supposed had to reply and said much of what I had said in 2007.

And today, FMT, it would seem, has taken the lead in trumpeting that Pakatan is divided on this ‘secular or Islamic?’ issue.

Read that FMT report and tell me if I have missed something, because I do not see any great divide between the Pakatan reps quoted in that report.

Tony Pua thought Nazri was talking through his rear, but put it more politely.

Nurul hit the nail on the head, and I pray that the other Pakatan leaders will take a leaf from her.

Nurul is reported to have said that ‘BN had always used the secular state and Islamic state argument to confuse the masses for its own political advantage‘.

“I think it’s a bait. As far as we are concerned, we will continue to uphold and respect all that is enshrined in the constitution” , said Nurul.

Smart lady.

PM material, this.

Khalid Samad said this matter ought not to be debated now as it would be politicised.

PM material, too, if you ask me.

I suspect John Fernandez question must have collected dust in the chambers of the parliamentary clerks only to be listed now to enable Nazri to resurrect this issue so as to, as Nurul put it, bait the Pakatan leaders into another round of internal bickering and controversy and to lend the mainstream media fodder to spin this into an issue.

Well, from the FMT report above, it would seem fodder for some online portals, too.

Remember Mahathir agitating Tok Guru last year about implementing hudud in Kelantan?

And Anwar’s response to media question relating to this issue precipitating a crisis in Pakatan soon after?

I touched on this in my “Will they never learn?” post.

FMT has been quick today to report Gerakan’s Baljit urging Guan Eng to pass an anti-Hudud law.

Guan Eng, please ignore this political has-been.


And all you Pakatan leaders, please heed the words of your young colleague.

80% of the rakyat are feeling the effects of the price of essentials sky-rocketing.

And many are concerned if the state of indebtedness of the nation will bring us to a state of bankruptcy.

Please do not be distracted away from the real issues that confront the nation.