That’s what Saiful is alleged to have complained of in his police report of 28th June, as reported by RockyBru.
I reproduce that report from Rocky’s posting below.
“Saya Mohd Saiful Bukhari b Azlan ingin melaporkan bahawa saya telah diliwat oleh majikan saya. Perkara ini berlaku tanpa kerelaan saya. Kejadian terakhir berlaku 26/6/08 di Unit 1151, Kondominium Desa Damansara, Jln Setia Kasih, KL. Oleh itu, tujuan laporan ini dibuat untuk mendapat pembelaan dan keadilan keatas diri saya. Saya juga berasa bimbang dengan keselamatan diri dan keluarga saya jika perkara ini tersebar luas di khalayak ramai. Majikan saya Dato Seri Anwar Ibrahim – Ketua Umum PKR.”
So when and how did ‘tanpa kerelaan saya’ become ‘dengan kerelaan dan kesudian saya’, so that Anwar might today be charged with consensual carnal knowledge against the order of nature?
The People's Parliament 
bennyloh
August 7, 2008
“THIS IS THE FINAL ROUND!”
Penang 71
August 7, 2008
Home Minister says Saiful cannot be charged with consensual sex as he is the “complainant” – is that how it works? Technically, consensual means both participated willingly, right? And since sodomy is a crime in Msia(since archaic crap), isn’t Saiful equally culpable?
If they are charging DSAI for consensual sex, obviously they found no evidence to suggest force. Since Saiful said he was “forced”, can they charge him with making a false report?
Penang 71
August 7, 2008
Home Minister says Saiful cannot be charged with consensual sex as he is the “complainant” – is that how it works? Technically, consensual means both participated willingly, right? And since sodomy is a crime in Msia(such archaic crap), isn’t Saiful equally culpable?
If they are charging DSAI for consensual sex, obviously they found no evidence to suggest force. Since Saiful said he was “forced”, can they charge him with making a false report?
Hoyohoyo
August 7, 2008
Mmmmm… the penetrator salah… the receiver not… mmmm…
With such a wise AG chamber… no wonder Pulau Batu Puteh went into the filthy Lee & Lee’s hand… 😉
queequeg
August 7, 2008
Utterly confusing indeed! Why charge one and protect the other? Someone not following the “script” properly…? Remember, you plan and Allah plans and Allah is the best planner of all. Better start counting your days dear Najib & Rosmah. I suggest you start packing up things of value. Don’t forget the leftover C4 yaa…
Rastaman.JB.
August 7, 2008
Dear Haris,
The BushDoctor says “Sup Kambing” will do wonders for rihinitis.Try it, will ya ?
“Wait a minute…..at the sup kambing stall..before you order the sup….tell the mamak to ensure the kambing was not sodomised…..get that ?
Just saw on TV3…..Sayeeeeed Albear…rambling some nonsense…in the presence of some Aussies….about the absence of SaiFool in court today.
I laughed so much……even my neighbour’s dog started to yelp !!!!!
With the Burmese doctor’s statement in today’s Star…..it appears finding real evidence on the sodomy act is gonna be a real challenge for the powers-be,almost as challenging as finding a comb in lawyer Sangkara Nair’s house!!!
Take care and get well soon, and I mean real soon Bro !
BR
RastamanJB.
rajraman 666
August 7, 2008
NO more further comments regarding this boy and Anwar.
rajraman666.Life had to go on beyond this two person.
Penang88
August 7, 2008
So if 2 ppl committed sodomy, the one who runs to lodge the police report first shall be freed from charge.
Is this what the statement implies ?
tmf
August 7, 2008
SPEECHLESS!
Dear God, can you please help us to safe our country?
ccs
August 7, 2008
So, it just another conclusion that this country belong to Pak Dollah! That is why he declare he will handover the PM post to Najib. And today he just acted accordingly, he is the bost of the country la.. Daulat Anwar! anyhow.
kram
August 7, 2008
So when and how did ‘tanpa kerelaan saya’ become ‘dengan kerelaan dan kesudian saya’
Thanks Harris, I just love that.
Many of us are just angry and frustrated with this charade.
int
August 7, 2008
Sdr. Haris, will you please stop sodomizing the Malaysian flag. Some idiot is going to wave it in dissent in Beijing, and then there’s going to be confusion and chaos and China will drive a tank over someone.
Littlebird
August 7, 2008
Penang88,
Yeah..now I am just getting some idea how to screw-up others by allowing to be screwed.
ram
August 7, 2008
Hello Sam,
I think we should also salute the judge for releasing Anwar on a personal bond,no surety and no impounding of passport.
Showing the kind of courage that a lot of our male judges seem to lack.
Why cares
August 7, 2008
The charge was preferred in bad faith.
The charge sheet itself confirmed no offence committed at the material time.
The Defendant should be acquitted and discharged at the first instant.
Syabas Barisan Rakyat.
Muda
August 7, 2008
Hmmm ,
Did Hamid Albar really pass his Bar exams and practised law ? I wonder …
Abdullah
August 7, 2008
No comment. The scumbag and the slimeball duo have lost the plot.
thegodfather
August 7, 2008
Bro Haris,
What nonsense is this? The charge is under consensual sex yet only one party is charged. Moreover the complainant reported that he was buggered against his wishes, but he is not charged with making a false police report. Can the Home Minister explain this.
Anwarhaqam
August 7, 2008
I wonder when he got married to his fiance (that girl not bad eh…) who will get the screw????
mwrmmg
August 7, 2008
“If it is “suka sama suka” (consensual), why was I the only one being charged? If it is consensual, both should be charged,” Anwar said after coming out of the courtroom in Jalan Duta on Thursday
from – the star, 7 Aug
So he admit it!!!
If he did not do it, then he won’t raise this.
Patek1472
August 7, 2008
Q2. Sodomy is as evil as murder. (True or False)
Sodomi sejahat Membunuh. (Betul atau Salah)
Q3. Anyone accused are innocent until proven guilty. (True or False)
Si tertuduh adalah tidak bersalah/berdosa sahingga dibuktikan. (Betul atau Salah)
Q4. Statutory Declarations and Police reports can be made to fool people. (True or False)
Pengakuan “Statutory” dan Laporan Polis boleh dibuat oleh untuk mengelirukan orang. (Betul atau Salah)
Q5. Anyman or woman will swear on his religion or beliefs to save his/her own skin. (True or False)
Sesiapa pun akan menangkat sumpah atas ugama atau kepercayaannya demi menyelamatkan dirinya. (Betul atau Salah)
……….cont’d to Q 50.
……….sambungan sahingga Soalan 50.
Answers at http://patek1472.wordpress.com
Jawapan di http://patek1472.wordpress.com
Tok Cik
August 7, 2008
Hamid Albar is a HP6 loyer burok.
krankenhschwester
August 7, 2008
if this statement is made by saiful himself then he does not fit to **** any woman in the world. Because he got dick but no sense of integrity of a man.
However i hope he was forced to do this by an eunuch in BN
rage
August 7, 2008
RPK pull a twist late last nite with the doc SD, now its twisted 180degree spin toward concensual act as force sodomy will be hard to prove. AAB and Gang is desperate, the more desperate they are, the more foolish thing they do or say.
Now, non beliverer is growing with a distaste of thr goverment who is wasting tax payers money.100% of an literated ppl would not belive this sandiwara.
10% of Umnoputras who want money and power who press hard this case to insist that anwar is not the right malay leader.
leader are readers, so pls let all the leader spread the truth so justice can live.
Parli-Man
August 7, 2008
Dear Haris,
I was driving to work today and felt really down.
What is our country becoming into ?
The shit that is going around here i don’t think happens even in some banana republic African nations.
Just what went wrong in this beautiful country ???
And then a ray of light appeared…. Just maybe we Malaysians are the chosen ones in this world to unite all races to bring down tyranny!
Why not I ask
rage
August 7, 2008
after RPK relevation and Rocky bru’s police report,our bodohwi will pull a MEDIA act (to ban alternative media)together with DNA act to be table in the parliment.
our PM is a laughing stock and proven to be sleeping or rely on an OXford brain.
patrick
August 7, 2008
If it is consensual what is the Albar guy talking abt Saiful requiring protection. Total lack of common sense.
yh
August 7, 2008
precisely, haris.
how can it be consensual sex when he is not a willing partner.
and how can it be non-consensual sex when there is no evidence that his arse has been ripped apart.
and why is he not being charged unless the laws said that the person being buggered is not against the law?
hey, it doesnt add up no matter which way you see it.
look, like 1998, they are screwing themselves up. they need to look for another “irrelevant” judge, boy oh boy.
Bro Al
August 8, 2008
Many has said that most of our ministers are really stupid … lo and behold most of them have to prove the notion right. What else can be said of our current Home Minister … making such a idiotic statements in their own controlled media. Same goes for our dicky-head PM. Enough said …
gagakdirimba
August 8, 2008
Kalau tanpa kerelaan mengapa diam saja dan tak melawan semasa dirogol dibuntut? Bodoh sangat!
abil
August 8, 2008
If two people commit a crime and one dirty fellow reports the crime, then that person is not prosecuted, but the other guy is prosecuted according to our Home Minister.This Syed Halba must be most stupid fellow to tell this to the Internatioanl Media. Both are bloody accomplish to the crime, hence both must be charged as consensual sex as proferred in the charge sheet.Leaving out Saiful is tantamount to misuse of power. So charge him for gay activity as saiful willingly admits being gay.
suresh
August 8, 2008
First of all this whole charge is nothing but a mockery. Though it is meant to defame Anwar, the actual casualty is the police and Malaysian Government.
What I find unbelievable is the intelligence level of our ministers, police and AG office so low that it equates the mentality of sub-standard person.
D.Zin
August 8, 2008
Dear All,
Why in heaven must you (or we) assume that what was written by RockyBru was the gospel truth and indeed came from the Police Report made by Saiful?
Can you guys get RockyBru to upload the copy of that Police Report? Look, even DSAI’s lawyers could not get hold of a copy of said Police Report. At least, RPK will backed up his articles with documentary evidence.
Common Haris, you are a practicing lawyer and although it’s a given that “we are friends with Rocky”, the least you should do is to authenticate that blog comment by bro Ahirudin Atan. Otherwise, we might be perceived as showing traits of “cyber anarchist”, making all this “anak Malaysia” and “flag upside down” campaign rather unpatriotic, no ?
rocky
August 8, 2008
syed albar is the tikus of malaya unlike his father and he should stop talking cos the more he talk, the more we think he is not using his brains. and this man also at one time support crooked bridge and next moment didn’t support. HP6…
Rakyat Malaysia Cina
August 8, 2008
saiful is ‘ The Last Eunuch Of Malaysia ‘
Pity his wife though
should have married a real man who is really man
(cukup jantan)
mode de la shadow
August 8, 2008
oOOhh di liwat ye? kesian nye~
Bentoh
August 8, 2008
A “refreshment exam” should be done every 2~3 years for a practising lawyer… just to make sure his/her mind not get stucked by something and accidentally forgot some of the stuff that he/she learned from the law course… 😉
my first aid cert also valid for 3 years only leh…
ttc
August 8, 2008
Haris, howdee 🙂
Section 377B of the penal code is more than penal – it is downright anal whichever way you look at it!
Suggest the rakyat bring charges on the following, if possible, for these alleged offences:
1. Saiful for sodomy, making a false police report, for criminal defamation and for boring us to death with his posterior tactics ( assuming of course he is not found to be insane first);
2. the police for being mind-bogglingly stupid and tiresomely incompetent as usual, for criminal waste of public resources, for malicious prosecution, for being embarrassing, for being thuggish, for being brutish, etc. etc. etc.
3. That civil servant who drafted that piece of Section 377B turd for arsenine incompetence;
4. SHA for opening his mouth (once too often) without checking his facts first and putting his brain into gear, assuming of course he has one;
5. The sessions court judge for not throwing out the case within two seconds of it opening in her court and for not slapping that Solicitor-General with a contempt of court order for wasting the court’s resources and her time which she could have spent more usefully on scaling down that judicial backlog mountain;
6. the AG for unacceptable dereliction of public duty in not having reviewed all stupidly drafted and pointless legislation by now, like arsenine Section 377B for instance, and not having repealed such dross ( which only goes to make the law into an ass and those who administer it into asses and worse) many zillions of years ago;
7. As this AG legal entity holds himself out to be an “expert” and a shining example of a “law professional” recommend very strongly that the rakyat consider throwing away the key for good after locking this AG-entity up for sodomising Malaysia!
WE SAY YEAH! 🙂
sjchange
August 8, 2008
How ah?
Consensual???
Why Saifool told Najis that he has been force to SODOMISED by Anwar Ibrahim???
The next PM, Najis???
Tolooooooonglah!
BoloOlang
August 8, 2008
Itu olang ciakap dia seluju kasi lia munya buntut kasi kolek, belakang lia kasi lipot lia sulah kena kolek, lia balakang ciakap lia talak seluju. Ini maciam munya olang butuk-butuk manyak bolo munya olang. Itu lagi satu olang, menteli lo.., ciakap itu bolo olang sulah kasi lipot lia sulah kena kolek, tatak moleh kasi caj sibab lia sulah latang lipot, manyak lucu munya cilita, bolo olang jugak lo…Itu lombo satu munya olang ciakap kita olang musti mau kasi alil sama sumua olang mukan anwar satu olang jugak, itu sibab musti kasi linga itu bolo olang munya lipot lia sulah sulah kena korek, butuk-butuk bolo ini olang…Ini maciam munya unlang-ulang pun ala…manyak helan…
su
August 8, 2008
Speculation ALERT!
..The fact that the victim is supposed to be a tall 23-year-old man, and the perpetrator a 61-year-old with a bad back probably just only hit them in the face, and they realised that using “assault” will probably get them nowhere. Hence “consensual”.
And besides, how else would they want to explain the medical report by Dr Osman that reported no tear, no pus, no signs of being assaulted?
..Saiful has been reported to be happy that Anwar is finally charged. I wonder if he knows the whole story.
snowbite8281
August 8, 2008
Think – do you trust that sicko? are you proud to be associated with a scumbug of a person who:
Mock Holy Quran in wanting to swear TRUTH into his LIES?
Moral that sink below the toilet bowl for those lies?
If I am an employer – I wont dare to employ this kind of character – he has the making of a TRAITOR who has not one DNA of TRUTH in all the chromosomes in his body.
mugabe
August 8, 2008
There is certainly a complete silence from Uncle Pet, Absentee Father Azlan and family from both paternal and maternal sides.
As Saiful comes from a Muslim family, it is only a good thing for all of them to offer Sholat Hajat beseeching their God to show His Justice.
In order to strenghten their prayers it would be a good thing to invite the Musa Hassan IGP, Gani Patail AG, SAC Rodwan and all those Police Officers and Politicians like Pak Lah, Najib, Syed Hamid and even Dr Rais Yatim.
If they all HONESTLY & SINCERELY believe that the Accused has done a dirty job upon Saiful. Firdaus Ismail can become the Imam and Khatib Dr Mahathir would complete the congregation.
Likewise, all the UMNO Branches should do similarly and see what their God has in store for them.
kluangman
August 8, 2008
Tafsiran undang undang adalah mengikut pemahaman dan pendekatan masing masing, ia selalunya ditafsirkan mengikut kepentingan dan keuntungan masing masing.
Pengadu dan yang kena adu ( saiful dan anwar ), polis ( siasatan ) dan peguamcara ( pendakwa ) dan peguambela ada peranan dan tafsiran masing masing.
Mereka berjumpa di mahkamah dengan bantuan pelbagai saksi untuk menegakkan ‘kebenaran’ masing masing dengan berhujah dan memberi beban bukti. Bagaimanapun di peringkat awal pihak pendakwa perlu mengujudkan dahulu samada ada kes ‘prima facie’ atau tidak.
Dalam keadaan biasa, siasatan awal polis akan dengan mudah dapat mengenalpasti samada sesuatu ‘laporan’ itu palsu atau tidak. Dengan kecekapan yang ada pada PDRM, sukar dan tidak logik untuk Saiful ‘memperbodohkan’ polis dan mengambil risiko membuat laporan palsu. Konspirasi sendiri tidak akan dibuat jika tidak mempunyai asas yang kuat.
Sementara ini, biarlah proses undang undang dijalankan dengan baik, kita jangan jadi lebih sudu dari kuah. Bacalah semula apa yang kita tulis, emosi dan kebencian melebihi fakta dan rasional.
Jawapan spontan syed hamid kepada pemberita boleh diterima walaupun kemudiannya kita mempertikaikan tetapi cara dia menjawab yang teragak agak dan tergagap gagap menunjukkan kelemahan kredibilitinya sendiri.
kluangman
August 8, 2008
Jika Anwar dan Saiful melakukan persetubuhan di luar tabii dan si pengadu adalah orang lain, kedua dua mereka boleh didakwa, itupun kemungkinan salah seorang ditawarkan menjadi ‘saksi’ polis.
Kita masih tentu ingat dengan kes Rahim Tambi Chik, bagaimana dia seorang sahaja didakwa walaupun gadis bawah umur itu mengaku mengadakan hubungan seks secara suka sama suka. Mahkamah membebaskan Rahim, tetapi kenapa gadis itu tidak pula didakwa sebagai membuat laporan palsu.
Saiful mungkin akan didakwa jika Anwar yang membuat laporan polis terlebih dahulu.
Kenapa agaknya Anwar yang tidak membuat laporan polis terlebih dahulu ? Mungkin sebab Anuar tidak melakukannnya @ Anuar tidak secerdik Saiful…
Thinkwisely
August 8, 2008
Regardless of what, for the benefit of doubt, this case is no longer valid toward the accuse.
Really sad that we have a bunch of politician who just keep putting our national interest in thier personal agenda.
Anyway, I believe in God that soon these people will face thier consequences as the sin committed is affecting the whole nation.
kluangman
August 8, 2008
‘Perkara ini berlaku tanpa kerelaan saya’
– Kemalangan juga berlaku tanpa kerelaan.
– Pujuk rayu dan janji juga satu bentuk kaedah untuk memperdayakan mangsa untuk rela.
– Ketakutan kerana ugutan dan paksaan juga sesuatu yang direlakan berlaku.
– Kerelaan berlaku diperingkat awal.
chris chong
August 8, 2008
but who dare to go and make the polis report?
Drachen
August 8, 2008
Does the Home Minister mean Saiful was basically dissatisfied with the anal sex that he and wants to put his lover in jail? Wow! You can now go to jail for not performing in bed! 🙂
This Saiful should be whipped 10 strokes of the rotan to stop such people from using frivolous accusations to bring down prominent people. Or else every Tom, Dick and Harry will be saying so-and-so shafted them in the butt. Malaysia will really be up shit creek without a paddle!
navi
August 8, 2008
As expected, the police has doctored the report to say that Saiful consented to the act. Rocky reported that it was against Saiful’s wishes; albeit he was raped. Now its proven that DSAI’s claim that the report will be changed hence the refusal of the police to release a copy of the report to his lawyers.
Conspiracy at its best.
With the new revelation of Dr.Osman and his Statutory Declaration, the charges should be dropped; Saiful should be charged for making a false report.
Mr Smith
August 8, 2008
What would Syed Albar say if Anwar had first lodged a report that he and Saiful had consensual sex. Would Saiful be charged and Anwar made witness?
veryupset
August 8, 2008
Oh.. yeah! I am very upset!
These BN people are forever saying whatever without thinking. We, the rakyat are always correcting these goons!
We are not lawyers or the goverment but we STILL know our rights & a lot of stuff..!
This Anwar issue is so…….. blown over by C4 because its ‘Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim’.
If u & i were to commit this.., we WILL both be charged for sure!
How can the complainant NOT be charge?
Oh well….!
Better release all sodomy complainants from jail than !
Yes.. ???
Nanda
August 8, 2008
kluangman Says:
August 8, 2008 at 8:24 am
Jika Anwar dan Saiful melakukan persetubuhan di luar tabii dan si pengadu adalah orang lain, kedua dua mereka boleh didakwa, itupun kemungkinan salah seorang ditawarkan menjadi ’saksi’ polis.
Kita masih tentu ingat dengan kes Rahim Tambi Chik, bagaimana dia seorang sahaja didakwa walaupun gadis bawah umur itu mengaku mengadakan hubungan seks secara suka sama suka.
Nanda says:
Perbandingan ini bukan perbandingan yang wajar kerana kes Rahim Tambi Chik melibatkan remaja bawah umur di mana merujuk kepada Akta 574 (Laws of Malaysia Act 574 Penal Code) Seksyen 375 (F), sama ada dengan atau tanpa kerelaan remaja perempuan bawah umur tersebut, lelaki yang melakukan persetubuhan tersebut boleh diambil tindakan atas jenayah “rogol”. Sila baca petikan akta tersebut di bawah:
375. A man is said to commit “rape” who, except in the case
hereinafter excepted, has sexual intercourse with a woman under
circumstances falling under any of the following descriptions:
(f) with or without her consent, when she is under sixteen
years of age.
Link untuk memuat turun akta tersebut adalah diberikan:
Click to access Act%20574.pdf
Oleh yang sedemikian rupa, saya pinta kluangman, tolonglah buat rujukan dan sila sokong hujah anda dengan bukti yang kukuh sebelum membuat kesimpulan.
Vivien
August 8, 2008
To Muda
Please forgive my offending comments here but this is true from my heart which is what most non-Malays think.
We never ever think highly of any Malays whether they are doctors, lawyers, professors unless they can really prove their worth. Reason for this is …. blame it on the UMNO for the many years of sending unqualified Bumis to university locally and abroad. Remember the top Malay student sent back to Malaysia by foreign universities? What a shame. Not only to the Malays but to the Malaysians.
One true fact to share with all – When I was working with a law firm years ago, I discovered that one of the partners, a lawyer, managed to get into the university to study law with a string of Es in her STPM result while an Indian friend of mine could only managed to get a place in some un….. course with distinctions and Bs. To all fella Malays, put yourself in our shoes and see how it feels.
I find through the blogs that there are so many righteous people, all races including Malays. Why is it that our country is ruled by a bunch of …. who talk thru their axx, have no common sense ( can’t even fool a kid) and continuously bring shame to the country. Any one of these bloggers will make a better politician. They are non-racist, nature loving and much more. The world, (Malaysia) will be a much better place if this happen. Total change to the bunch of corrupted-brainless politicians.
matt
August 8, 2008
The best part of it all, syed hamid albar saying justice will be served.I think he meant shafted this imbecile.
DalaiLlama
August 8, 2008
An ancient Chinese proverb states that a fish rots from the head down. The lesson is clear. If an organization fails, one need only look to those at the top to find the root cause for that failure.
The Rot is only beginning to Stink to High Heaven!!
Tiger woods
August 8, 2008
Yes Mr. Smith,if Anwar is the one who made the police report.saiful would be charged.
but anwar is not gonna do that.he know the malay hates gay people so much.and he is like digging his own political grave for doing that.while on the other hand,mr.saiful.hes a nobody.only that,he and his family would suffer a humiliation for how many generations i dont know.
but someone knows who anwar really is.then use saifol as bait.anwar took the bait and he swallowed it all.
malayamuda
August 8, 2008
lets sing Auld Lang Syne for UMNO/ BN
You coaliation partners of BN still got time to jump, nobody can safe the Titanic now……..
I like chopin
August 8, 2008
KAMI,RAKYAT MALAYSIA,ingin melaporkan bahawa KAMI telah diliwat oleh KERAJAAN KAMI.Perkara ini berlaku tanpa kerelaan KAMI.Kejadian terakhir berlaku pada TAHUN 2008 di MALAYSIA.Oleh itu tujuan laporan ini dibuat untuk mendapat pembelaan dan keadilan keatas diri KAMI.KAMI juga berasa bimbang dengan keselamatan KAMI dan keluarga KAMI jika perkara ini tersebar luas ke SELURUH DUNIA.KERAJAAN KAMI UMNO-ketua umum BN.
So,Haris,should we make a police report as well?As victims or as witnessess?Can we get the same attention and protection from our “fair” Prime Minister and his “wise” Minister Syed Hamid?
Sorry,just trying to make sense what is happening.
Reniv
August 8, 2008
WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU ALL? IT DIDN’T HAPPEN, DR. mOHD.OSMAN SAYS NO TEAR OR WEAR (TRO)SODOMY mean To Rule Out Sodomy and NOT (TRO) Traumatic Rapture Orgasmic Sodomy then you can debate on CONSENSUAL SEX.
I don’t want to hear about it anymore.
badman
August 8, 2008
D.Zin Says:
August 8, 2008 at 12:48 am
Dear All,
Why in heaven must you (or we) assume that what was written by RockyBru was the gospel truth and indeed came from the Police Report made by Saiful?
At the way the thing is going I rather trust rocky’s word than what police or syed hamids says kudos XD
si tongkat putih
August 8, 2008
Biarlah silunchai terjun dengan labu-labunya,
ybk
August 8, 2008
Just let Saiful say what he likes. Wait for the trial and let Anwar’s lawyers rip his balls out and feed it to the roadside dogs.
Avtaran
August 8, 2008
These incidents should inspire us to keep to our original aims before the general election of having good representatives in the legislatures, accountable state governments, accountable federal government ( be it BN or PR) and work towards a united Bangsa Malaysia.
We should not get ourselves down and feel helpless. We as a nation can do wonders, if we want to. But we must base our actions on ethical conduct. We must not sink to the depths of what we condemn in the BN. No dirty tricks and no money politics.
Let’s have a Bangsa Malaysia get together this Merdeka day- 31 Aug and 16 September.
We need to evaluate thing. BN getting worse. PR- well there are some issues they need to iron out.
yorgyb
August 8, 2008
Mari kita tengok, siapa yang KENA!!!!
fergie
August 8, 2008
Thank you, Haris, for all your hard work and sacrificing your time to help the ordinary citizens fight for justice in this country. Please take care of your health. It gives me a headache every time one of our ministers opens his mouth. No logical thinking. If Anwar is a sodomite why wait 10 yrs and on the brink of returning to power before committing this “act”? He abstained for 10yrs? Aiya .. we are taken for FOOLS!
neutronic
August 8, 2008
kluangman
Pasal apa DSAI nak buat laporan dulu sedangkan dia kata dia tak buat.
Persoalannya, heboh satu dunia saifool kata dia diliwat secara paksa. Najib buat press statement saifool datang mengadu dia diliwat secara paksa oleh DSAI – tiba2 DSAI kena tuduh consensual sodomy!
Kalau suka sama suka, kita semua bertanya mengapa kedua-duanya tidak didakwa. Jawapan hamid alba yang teragak-agak menambahkan lagi quriousity masyarakat.
bat8
Vince
August 8, 2008
This case should then be thrown out of court already.
This also proves that the police have nothing and is buying time to do what they can to get DSAI.
Then as for the “tidak rela” to “rela”, I guess if you hang around Badawi’s cronies/gang long enough, you too will be infected by the “flip flop” virus……no cure for the time being.
peng
August 8, 2008
Sigh! Haris it seems you have to give some tuition to our boys in the AG department! For our sake, please do it pro bono….
kluangman
August 8, 2008
Oleh yang sedemikian rupa, saya pinta kluangman, tolonglah buat rujukan dan sila sokong hujah anda dengan bukti yang kukuh sebelum membuat kesimpulan.
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Hal remaja bawah umur, dalam pengetahuan saya, tetapi apa yang saya contohkan ialah, seseorang yang mengadu kesalahan orang lain walaupun melakukan perkara yang sama (suka sama suka), termasuk meompak misalnya, tetapi sebagai pengadu dan pemberi maklumat awal dan pertama akan mendapat kelonggaran dari didakwa sebaliknya menjadi saksi bagi pihak pendakwa.
Shoe polish boy
August 8, 2008
That the accused was eventually charged under Section 377B rather than 377C could be a manifestation of some form of dissent against executive pressure (note Abdullah Badawi’s ‘study law/rape’ press statement).
Tilted
August 8, 2008
By charging Anwar for the offence of consensual anal sex with a person of the same sex, the prosecution is in effect prosecuting him for the “crime of homosexuality”.
For the Malaysian homosexual community’s take on this whole debacle, please see http://tiltedworld.org/2008/08/08/dangerous-precedent-may-be-set/
Ahjajal
August 8, 2008
To the HM Syed Hamid. Please answer this should i in the possible next few days go and rob the bank with some illegal PTI and immediately report it to the police can I be enjoying the same status as Saiful.
Dame stupid law of UMNO.
ariefdj
August 8, 2008
..konspirasi.. yup, i smell it..
Nanda
August 8, 2008
kluangman Says:
August 8, 2008 at 1:05 pm
Hal remaja bawah umur, dalam pengetahuan saya, tetapi apa yang saya contohkan ialah, seseorang yang mengadu kesalahan orang lain walaupun melakukan perkara yang sama (suka sama suka), termasuk meompak misalnya, tetapi sebagai pengadu dan pemberi maklumat awal dan pertama akan mendapat kelonggaran dari didakwa sebaliknya menjadi saksi bagi pihak pendakwa.
Nanda says:
Baiklah. Namun bukankah isu yang diketengahkan dalam posting tersebut adalah bagaimana dakwaan yang dahulunya menyebut ‘diliwat tanpa kerelaan’ telah di tukar menjadi ‘dengan kerelaan’ ?
Jadi, sekiranya pada mulanya Encik A membuat dakwaan telah diliwat dan dirogol oleh Encik B dan Encik A membuat laporan polis, namun atas sebab-sebab yang masih tidak dapat diterima umum, Encik A kemudiannya boleh menukar dakwaan tersebut kepada beliau sebenarnya secara rela hati diliwat, di mana beliau dengan sedar dan dengan penuh kerelaan telah mengizinkan diri beliau diliwat? Hebat sungguh pemikiran beliau sehingga idea tahap tinggi berkenaan liwat ini melewati minda Encik A.
Apa yang dipersoalkan adalah mana hilangnya kepersisan dalam dakwaan ini?
Mungkin esok dakwaan ditukar lagi dengan menyatakan sebenarnya Encik A rela diliwati namun Encik B segan-segan meliwati beliau jadi Encik A cuba menggoda Encik B sehingga Encik B sanggup meliwati Encik A. Memang genius Encik A tersebut.
Mr Smith
August 8, 2008
It seems to me some people have thrown a spanner in the conspiracy. Surely this is not going according to plan.
The RM2,000 personal bond, no objection from the prosecution to bail, no confiscation of passport – all point to a mouse squeak compared to the lion’s roar the previous day.
There are two forces at work here within the establishment. One pushing on with the conspiracy and the other against it. Which will win?
One thing I am sure, Abdullah is eating humble pie?
Alex
August 8, 2008
The 23 year old boy is 6 feet tall. It may be difficult to prove that a 61 year old could hold him down and ‘liwat’ him. It may sound more plausible to say that it was consensual.
But the nature of these ‘liwat kakis’ is a bit strange.
There is a video of another fellow, a former university lecturer, confessing to Ustaz Taib Azimuddin that he was liwatted by the same dude over ten years ago. In the video the ex lecturer says that ‘saya tidak terdaya nak buat apa pun, dia tindih saya’ (or words to that effect. Strange behaviour.
My conclusion (feel free to shoot holes in it) is that these liwat kakis can become like the hysteria girls in Malay schools. They just freeze when they imagine they see a hantu or something. Then they may go into convulsions and even punch their teachers.
Or other Malay girls who say that they kena pukau. Some guy comes up, takes away their money, jewellery and hand phones and just walk away. After everything is over they start yelling and screaming.
Maybe the liwat guy has a magic wand! He could hypnotise people with it. But if the boy had stated in his Police report that he was liwatted without his consent, how is the prosecution going to present the Police Report in Court as the basis for charging the liwat guy with consensual liwat? The Police Report is also evidence. That is where it all began.
meor@maru
August 8, 2008
this is getting weirder and weirder…
Stingray
August 8, 2008
kluang man – kalau buat hubungan seks dengan budak bawah umur memanglah sorang kena dakwa…kerana diistilahkan merogol …tak kira dia rela ketidak…dalam kes Sodomi sekarang ni dua dua rela…dua dua pulak tu dah lebih dari 18 tahun….jadi dua dualah kena dakwa…kalau saya pergi mencuri dengan kluang man …sama sama pergi mencuri sekali saya buat repot “saya bersama kluang man mencur” adil ke tidak kalau keluang man sahaja kena dakwa? jenayah macam ni kena pakai akal…dalam undang-undang syariah..orang yang mengaku berzina dia yang akan kena hukum sebab dia yang mengaku ….apa yang hermit katakan amat merbahaya …tak lama lagi perompak berkumpulan nak lepaskan diri dia buat repot terhadap kawan kawannya dan dia akan terlepas…wajar ker?
yh
August 8, 2008
mwrmmg
you know why BN is in such shitty hole. coz there are too many pygmy brains there, like you.
they cant even frame a man properly, just like in 1998.
BoloOlang
August 8, 2008
Olang bohong apa-apa pun boleh lia cakap sibab sulah silalu ciakap bohong. Jali lia ciakap mau sumpah atak itu Kolan pun talak moleh picaya munya sibab olang sulah silalu ciakap bohong mana ala lakut, mau lunjuk kasi olang tau lia ciakap butuk saja. Itu RPK pun sulah ala ciakap sumpah atas Kolan mukan butuk-butuk munya Islam. RPK ciakap butuk-butuk munya Islam talak buat itu maciam munya hal. Butuk-butuk munya olang Islam talak sumpah atak Kolan munya. Dia ciakap itu Mulayu munya Islam. Manyak olang busat-busat maciam itu menteli-menteli, lia olang pun angkat sumpah atak Kolan atau Bibel itu jam mau jali menteli,lipan Agung pulak. Bila sulah jali menteli lia olang manyak ciakap bohong, lasuah, makan luit, gila pompuan, binih olang, lagi maciam-maciam kilija jahat. Mana ala lia olang lakut sama itu angkat sumpah atak Kolan atau Bibel, tipu bohong sana sini jugak. Ini sumpah atak Kolan atau Bibel mau kasi lunjuk saja lia olang moleh kasi picaya. Jali itu mudak bolo, talak guna lu kasi ciakap lu mau angkat sumpah atak Kolan mau kasi lunjuk lu butuk-butuk sulah kasi Anwa korek lu munya buntut. Lagi lu ciakap mau angkat sumpah atak Kolan lagi olang talak picaya. Olang bohong mau kasi itu binang basah bangun lulus apa-apa pun dia olang moleh buat dan ciakap. Itu binang basah mana moleh bangun lulus? Olang sulah selalu ciakap bohong mana ala lakut muat kelija jahat. Olang bolo, olang sulah makan luit, olang sulah muat kilija jahat, olang sulah kasi janji lapat itu ini saja picaya sama lu. Olang bohong jugak kasi tolong sama olang bohong.
Som
August 8, 2008
Will Rais Yatim’s proposal for a law to punish foreign based websites realised? Will his campaign to “inform” foreigners about the Anwar case work? May be we need to visit history. Pliz read the two articles below.
1. http://dinmerican.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/for-the-record-playing-kampong-politics-with-the-united-states/#comments
2. http://dinmerican.wordpress.com/2008/08/08/kampong-politics-with-the-united-states-part-2/
mwrmmg
August 8, 2008
377B and 377C are on different scenarios, the later with threat/aggression.
The power of persuasion and reluctance does not fall in 377C.
What about if the victim was drugged ?
kluangman
August 8, 2008
Stingray Says:
August 8, 2008 at 3:46 pm
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Ini bukan kira wajar atau tidak, setiap kes ada meritnya dan dikaji setiap kes dari pelbagai sudut, tidak ada kes yang sama kerana tarikh, masa, tempoh, jumlah, dan sebagainya berbeza.
Ini bukan kira wajar atau tidak, tetapi begitulah undang2 sivil Malaysia. seperti yang saya katakan sebelum ini, dalam membuat tafsiran undang2 tidak ada siapa yang betul dan tidak ada siapa yang salah, hanya mahkamah di tempat pengadilan berdasarkan prima facie, beban bukti dan kebijaksanaan peguambela dan peguamcara.
Nanda Says:
August 8, 2008 at 2:48 pm
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Dalam membuat pendakwaan selalunya pihak yang mendakwa pastilah juga mengambilkira peluang ‘menang’ berdasarkan bahan bukti yang diperolehi hasil siasatan. Beberapa contoh ialah seperti dakwaan membunuh dan dakwaan membunuh secara tidak sengaja (tanpa niat membunuh) atau mencuri atau memiliki barang curi sebenarnya adalah pilihan yang selalu digunakan untuk disesuaikan dengan kekuatan ‘bahan bukti’ yang ada.
Dalam kes meliwat secara sukarela atau paksa, juga merupakan satu pilihan, soal pokoknya, adakah ‘LIWAT’ itu berlaku atau tidak, itulah sebenarnya yang dicari dan perlu dibuktikan.
Anggap sahajalah si Saiful ini seperti kura kura yang mengajak si Anwar (arnab) untuk berlumba lari. Arnab sudah tercungap cungap, tapi kura kura masih cool..
Jangan marah…
kluangman
August 8, 2008
Pembetulan: Ini bukan kira wajar atau tidak, tetapi begitulah undang2 sivil Malaysia. ( undang2 sivil dan jenayah )
sam
August 8, 2008
Why Saiful cannot charged like DSAI? The answer is simple.Read Sec.377A & 377B and understand it.This section of the law does not apply to him [Saiful].Sec.377B clearly provide punishment to whoever commit the offence of carnal intercourse against the order of nature.In this case DSAI.The punishment here applies only to DSAI who has sexual connection with Saiful by introduction of his penis into Saiful’s anus.In short the law in this section only applies to the person who commit the act of sodomy i.e DSAI but not the person being sodomised.
kluangman
August 8, 2008
” Menurut Syed Hamid, Saiful tidak boleh didakwa kerana dia kini menjadi saksi utama dalam tuduhan liwat yang didakwa dilakukan oleh Anwar.
Anwar yang berang dengan kenyataan tersebut terus menegaskan jika beliau didakwa di bawah akta yang memperuntukkan kesalahan suka sama suka, Saiful perlu turut sama didakwa.
“Kalau suka sama suka mengapa beliau sahaja didakwa?,” katanya ”
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Sayang seribu kali sayang, anwar ada 9 peguam hebat untuk membelanya, takkan tidak ada seorang pun boleh memahamkan Anwar dalam hal tersebut.
Apapun Anwar sengaja terus memainkan ‘sentimen’ tersebut untuk mendapat simpati rakyat. Kenyataan itu tidak lebih dari kenyataan politik untuk keuntungan pengaruh menjelang pilihanraya.
Anwar memang bijak ‘bermain’.
yh
August 8, 2008
mwrmmg
did saiful complain he was drugged?
pgymies are pygmies, i guess.
by the way, i have never seen a sodomised or raped victim who is as alert and confident as him.
whats next, mwrmmg.
bung hussein
August 9, 2008
Tigerwoods,
You are spot on. Gila ke Anwar nak mengadu dia main belakang atau dia kena sondol belakang ? Gay PM-in-waiting ?
kluangman,
Rasanya akan ada pengakuan suka-sama-suka dalam perbicaraan nanti. Kedua-dua mereka dibebaskan dan kes ini digugurkan. Mulai itu Malaysia jadi negara bebas sex homo macam zaman Nabi Lut. Masa lari ke kedutaan Turki dulu Anwar bertanya di mana letaknya Sodom.
Other bloggers,
This is a very simple case for Anwar. He just have to convince the world that he was not with Saiful between 3 to 4.30 p.m. on 26 June 2008. Because that Saiful guy busuk sangat.
Syahredzan Johan
August 9, 2008
mwrmmg,
Drugging negates consent.
mwrmmg
August 9, 2008
Who said he was drugged? If he was drugged he probably wouldn’t remember being sodomised.
The point of my note is where, if such cases would fall? 377b or 377c? persuasion with reluctance or drugged, or whatever.. apart from the case with aggression or threat (377c)
ibat
August 9, 2008
bung hussein betul ‘correct correct correct’ (forgotten phrase already! – what is the progress of lingamgate? – another story). Lets look at the charge without emotion (I know this is emotional to many supporters of DSAI). A coffee shop legal expert will see that defence of alibi will kill the prosecution. Anwar had said on BBC he has alibi for every minute of that day!! He’ll win the case. But he will not completely extinguish the doubt of some who may feel ada something queer about the guy. Ye, he is turning his unwanted problem with the law into an opportunity to enhance his political martyrdom ‘perception’. He’s cool – he has alibi, so he said.
navinda
August 9, 2008
Even if we were to assume that DSAI is gay, the whole charade stinks of conspiracy. The extreme stand taken by Abdullah and his not so intelligent stooge Syed Hamid, with their idiotic statements, the great pains the police took to investigate and fabricate evidence, the direct involvement of the deputy IGP in the investigations and press releases, the needless protection provided for Saifool and his going into hiding, Najib’s counseling of the ‘poor boy’ and his meetings with him to hold his ‘cold’ hands, all stink to high heavens. There is definitly conspiracy on the part of the BN leadership to frame and commit DSAI as was done ten years ago.
Kenny Gan
August 9, 2008
Whether or not sodomy is consensual, a medical examination will determine whether the anus has been penetrated. (sorry to use such crude words.) I believe once the act is committed and “anal virginity” lost, the physical evidence is there.
The first thing DSAI lawyers should demand is medical evidence that sodomy has occurred. Only if that is established they should go into the defense of alibi. As RPK said, Dr. Osman found that Saiful’s ass was a virgin as his.
C
August 9, 2008
I am truly sad and shameful on Malaysia. What have the Malaysia government in the past and current been doing?
WE ARE MOVING IN SNAIL’s PACE in every sectors in this country.
People with the right mind worldwide are moving foward and so much ahead of us. Brazil is bidding for olympic 2016. Look at what the once way back China has produce in this olympic. Extraordinary , Spectacular , Amazing ,Stunning and Honourable are the words in hand. Here we are still stuck in a 10 years old unimaginative sodomy conspiracy story.
Where are we when others are finding way to learn from one another and improve? Huh? Our government fellows are wasting valuable time and resources in this ridiculous activity beholding justice and greed and unlawful sins to prevail.
Racists,inequalities must be erased for the sake of the country so that we can create and have champions in every sectors whether it is sports,academics,researches,transports,services,tourism,technologies,business….etc. Why are we comparing with those worsts in the 234 countries worldwide? Are we choosing to be in the list of junk food rather than nutrition food?
We have such a useless,incapable,selfish PM and government. The French president Nicolas Sarkozy who are famed for making many unwise statements and decisions is just a lttle better than ours. Just like Raja Petra said there are brains that need to be unclogged.
Malaysia has become a laughing stock after just holding 1998commonwealth games by going to bid for olympic where we are not even entertained in the qualifying round.Look at where we are now and back then? Mahathir and the govt were sleeping in Bolehland back then and we are still not awaken yet. Lets turn Malaysia from an ugly duckling to a swan or should I interprete as let the prince awake the sleeping beauty.
anna brella
August 9, 2008
From an initial reading:
Section 377B appears to be drafted wide enough through the words “against the order of nature” to make ANY consensual sexual act other than consensual “penis-and-vagina” sex a crime, irrespective of whether the consensual act in question is done between single/married heterosexuals, bisexuals or homosexuals.
Section 377C is the crime of rape involving penis-anal penetration. The need for a section 377C suggests that there may be another section drafted for rape which would specifically cover rape involving penis-vaginal penetration.
The mindset and focus of the legislators and civil servants who discussed, deliberated and drafted this type of legislation, and the mindset and focus of those who continue to use and administer such ludicrous and regressive legislation well into the 21st century, is frankly very revealing as to why Malaysia finds herself in dire straits now, and why after fifty years of independence, she is still a “developing country” lagging so far behind so many others on that world league board, when with so much potential now, and right from the start back in 1957, she should have been so much further ahead in that benchmarking scale than the lowly position she languishes in today.
It is sad isn’t it? To see so much good potential for growth and development of your country go to such waste and be destroyed so unthinkingly and so uncaringly by the irresponsibility of those with the power to prevent it. The succinct Malay saying “saperti kera mendapat bunga” comes to mind.
We need a seismic shift in the nation’s thinking. A shift that will break through and remove once and for all the growth-limiting chains and straightjackets imposed on Malaysian minds from the pathetically small, narrow and destructive petty-mindedness that seems so prevalent even now well into the 21st century.
We need radical transformational evolutionary change, a sort of warp speed jump into the hyperspace of the mind.
As everyone can make that jump at any time through free will, what are you still waiting for?
“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon
cruzeiro
August 9, 2008
mwrmmg Says:
August 7, 2008 at 11:04 pm
“If it is “suka sama suka” (consensual), why….
So he admit it!!!
If he did not do it, then he won’t raise this.
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Dear Pygmybrain,
If the word “IF”, in your perverted mind translates to an admission, do yourself a favour & get an education before you poop in public ….
Meanwhile, just restrict your amazing mental faculties to mickey mouse comics.
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Jeez, man – Mr. Kris must be sodomizing the ministry real bad ….
cruzeiro
August 9, 2008
BTW, I somehow feel that the whole case is a sham,
and will be thrown out, as the charge itself is quite frivolous –
after all, the report was about “non-consensual”,
but the the charge is “consensual”.
Mr. Egghead is just court jester who has to spout something/anything – as long as some of the audience is “entertained”, his job is done.
The case will be thrown out …..
Menyalak-er
August 9, 2008
Bro. Haris,
I might be wrong, but my take on this 377a-c etc. stuff, is that SG is not entirely pleased with the polis ‘evidence’ and is going through the motions as per intruscted. There is much consternation amongst the powers that be, as the plot unravels.
The ‘Rubicon’ has been breached, and only the ‘Waterloo’ awaits the behinders.
It is also heartening to watch the lack of dpp’s braying to regards of Sdr Anwar’s personal bond and surrender of his passport. If there was any sort of unanimity initially, its breaking into pieces now.
Yup, it time to end this sandiwara – if the main purpose is still hell-bent on pursuing a ‘moral’ blemish on dsai.
But then again it does open up another can of worms viz. the soiled hands of najis, mdm. dottie lumpiolus and chorts doesn’t it?
Kapitan
August 10, 2008
Harris
D.ZIN is right, don’t trust this Rocky anymore. This Rock has turned into a TauFu.
Remember the recent bloggers’ gathering, this TauFu bought along the Mamakutty’s son? And Scomi was a sponsor of the event that evening!
TauFu is paid handsomely by Mamakutty’s son to write Chedet blog…rumoured????
yh
August 10, 2008
cruizero
sad to say, pygmy brains are plentiful among the cybertroopers. gosh, where do they recruit such cybertroopers? the recruitment agency should be shot, no?
anyway,shall we move on and use our energy for a better cause.
doggone
August 11, 2008
2008 Beijing Summer Olympics – Swimming.
Men’s 100m Backstroke – Gold Medal Winner- Saiful Buttkari, Malaysia.
Men’s 200m Backstroke – Gold Medal Winner- Saiful Buttkari, Malaysia.
Men’s 400m Backstroke – Gold Medal Winner- Saiful Buttkari, Malaysia.
Malaysia will celebrate the sensational triple Gold harvest in the Men’s 100,200 and 400m Backstroke from the Beijing Olympics with an equally sensational ‘suka sama suka’ air of festivity. When arse to comment on his stunning victory in the three events, the strapping local ‘kamp-on boy’ Saiful Buttkari, humbly shrug off his formidable feat to having strong legs and thigh muscles gained from years of practice. Like a true champion preserving the spirit of the Olympics, he offered a hint to hopeful backstrokers. “The secret is in the tooshies.” he said with a smirk before swaggering off to loud applause.
Nanda
August 11, 2008
kluangman Says:
August 8, 2008 at 8:51 pm
Dalam kes meliwat secara sukarela atau paksa, juga merupakan satu pilihan, soal pokoknya, adakah ‘LIWAT’ itu berlaku atau tidak, itulah sebenarnya yang dicari dan perlu dibuktikan.
Anggap sahajalah si Saiful ini seperti kura kura yang mengajak si Anwar (arnab) untuk berlumba lari. Arnab sudah tercungap cungap, tapi kura kura masih cool..
Jangan marah…
kluangman Says:
August 8, 2008 at 10:57 pm
” Menurut Syed Hamid, Saiful tidak boleh didakwa kerana dia kini menjadi saksi utama dalam tuduhan liwat yang didakwa dilakukan oleh Anwar.
Anwar yang berang dengan kenyataan tersebut terus menegaskan jika beliau didakwa di bawah akta yang memperuntukkan kesalahan suka sama suka, Saiful perlu turut sama didakwa.
“Kalau suka sama suka mengapa beliau sahaja didakwa?,” katanya ”
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Sayang seribu kali sayang, anwar ada 9 peguam hebat untuk membelanya, takkan tidak ada seorang pun boleh memahamkan Anwar dalam hal tersebut.
Apapun Anwar sengaja terus memainkan ’sentimen’ tersebut untuk mendapat simpati rakyat. Kenyataan itu tidak lebih dari kenyataan politik untuk keuntungan pengaruh menjelang pilihanraya.
Anwar memang bijak ‘bermain’.
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Nanda says:
Mungkin kluangman dan juga menteri berkaitan boleh menerangkan apa beza kes kali ini bila kita bandingkan dengan 1998 di mana adik angkat Anwar turut menjadi saksi yang memberi keterangan terhadap Anwar dalam dakwaan kes ‘liwat dengan kerelaan’ di mana adik angkat tersebut juga didakwa dan dipenjarakan selama 6 bulan?
Setahu saya, undang-undang berkaitan masih tidak berubah sejak 1998 sehingga sekarang. Mengikut semangat keputusan mahkamah pada 1998, persoalan yang ditimbulkan adalah berasas.
Seng
August 11, 2008
This sodomy charge – twice – against DSAI is one of the silliest, stupidest, time-wasting, money wasting charge I have ever seen!
The nature of the charge is completely mind boggling.
What boggles me is why the clearly and indisputably selective prosecution?
Under the present definition of “sodomy” which also included oral sex and anal sex, in Malaysia alone, we must have at least 10 million plus sexually active citizens, out of 25+ million population.
Making some simple assumptions, we know for a fact that in a week, we might have millions of such “crimes” being committed.
Over the last 10 years, perhaps it’s safe to say that we have 1 Billion of such crimes being committed.
And yet, in the last 10 years, we have this unique situation where DSAI is charged twice! The other 999,999,998 crimes were not charged in the same manner as DSAI!
Yes – when have you seen the government spending tons of resources to push through the DNA Bill so that they can get hold of DSAI’s DNA? For what purpose is this so urgent and so critical that Bills like JAC gets pushed away?
Any right thinking individual can see how ludicrous this charge is!
Not only that, any right thinking individual can see how disproportionate government resources have been used to prosecute DSAI!
And any right thinking individual can see that this is obviously selective and political prosecution.
And a clear waste of taxpayers monies – imagine how much of the government machinary have been mobilised to prosecute DSAI! The latest which is Rais Yatim’s planned international roadshows will make Malaysia an International Fool in the eyes of the Global Community.
The manner in which this Saifool changes his mind, from involuntary to consensual further reinforces the government’s stupidity.
I’m sorry for being harsh, but this government is indeed stupid, and simply do not have Rakyat’s best interests!
I sincerely hope that we all here will do our civic and national duty to make sure that this government do not win the next election. It is obvious they no longer have Rakyat’s best interests in mind and in their hearts.
Seng.
storm62
August 11, 2008
can anyone tell me..
1 – where is sialfool guy now? enjoying sodomee?
2 – why uncle pet pet so quiet now? holidaying?
3 – where is mrs. sialfool now? shopping?
4 – where is Dr. Osman? missing?
5 – where is PI Bala? missing?
6 – where is policeman on syabu case? shot in the head – police says sudden death.
7 – where is adik Nurin murderer?
8 – where is Norita’s murderer?
9 – where is adik Sharinine?
10- who killed Aminah? not Altantuya, it’s true Najis did not know Altantuya but he should know who is Aminah!
that’s why the PDRM is so busy. no time to ronda and take care of our neigbourhood, so many criminals around.
ttc
August 13, 2008
doggone, howdee 🙂
That last sentence in your last posting is priceless!
WE SAY YEAH! 🙂