I remember watching video clips and reading reports of the probing investigation conducted by the Selangor legislative assembly select committee on competency, accountability and transparency (Selcat) into the spending by the Khir Toyo administration and remarking to someone that perhaps MACC could learn a thing or two about getting at the truth.
Then, the select committee appeared to be armed to the teeth with facts and figures to allow for some very effective examination of state civil servants who went before the committee.
I fear now that I may have spoken too soon.
Malaysiakini reported yesterday that Selcat chairperson YB Teng Chang Khim announced, after three days of public hearings, that there was no evidential basis to support the allegations of corruption against the state government-owned sand mining company, Kumpulan Semesta Sdn Bhd.
“All we have is one person claiming that there is a demand made by someone else. And it is unfair for the person who was complained against (since the claimant has not acted further). So where is the scandal? I never saw any scandal,” he told a press conference after today’s hearing ended this afternoon. At the moment (these complaints) are just contract issues. These are to be determined by the courts, not by us”, Teng is reported to have said.
Let’s be fair and see this conclusion in a fuller context.
On 18th May, 2010, Selcat announced that it would hold a public hearing into allegations of corrupt practices by KSSB, from 2nd to 4th June, between 10am to 1pm on each day.
The first thing to note is that if the committee had indeed kept to the time allocated to this public hearing, the entire investigation was concluded in 9 hours.
Let’s not be misled by the reported ‘three days of public hearings’.
The scope of the intended public hearing can be discerned from the following statement of Darren Ong, the private secretary to Teng :
“Selcat will investigate the matter from the administration aspect to determine if there were weaknesses in administration which must be addressed and improved by the state government to ensure that KSSB adheres to the policies and instructions of the state. Selcat hopes that all parties would grant their full cooperation during the public hearing and present relevant documents to expedite investigations“ .
I cannot help but observe that there is no mention whatsoever about looking into the allegations of corruption.
The second observation I will make is that Selcat expressed the hope that all parties would fully cooperate and present all relevant documents to make for an expeditious investigation.
All this has been captured in the Malaysiakini report dated 18th May, 2010.
Two days before the commencement of the public hearing, YB Manikavasagam, at a press conference at his office, released a video recording taken by a former KSSB contractor, Zahar Rusuli, of alleged illegal sand-mining operations being carried out in Rasa, Hulu Selangor.
Zahar, too, attended and spoke at the press conference.
Both Malaysiakini and FreeMalaysiaToday reported on this press conference and the revelations made, but I would urge you to give the second report mentioned a close reading.
I want to reproduce the following explanation Zahar gave of the video recording he had made, as reported in FreeMalaysiaToday.
Zahar explained that in January, he went to the site where alleged illegal sand-mining was taking place, armed with a video camera and took footage of the operations going on.
“By a stroke of luck, I suddenly realised that officials from KSSB and the land office were also present at the area, so I filmed them entering their vehicles. The workers later told me that the officials had met privately at the site’s cabin inside the area.”, Zahar said.
“I sent the copy of my video to the menteri besar’s office, KSSB and also the Malaysian Anti-Corruption Commission (MACC). I have since received two threats from people who were hired by Alex and another person called Dr Zul.” , Zahar added.
YB Manikavasagam has the following video clip on his blog. A phone call to him yesterday confirms this is the same video clip that was disclosed at the press conference.
I think the video clip does appear to bear out quite a bit of what Zahar said and does give rise to serious questions about the possible involvement by state civil servants in corrupt practices involving sand-mining.
Certainly, it warrants an investigation.
Watch the video clip and judge for yourself.
Let’s turn now to the public hearing conducted by Selcat from 2nd to 4th June.
On day 1, the committee quizzed Selangor cabinet member Yaakob Sapari, KSSB non-executive chairperson Abdul Shukor Nagor and Selangor Land and Mining Department director Abdul Nasir Hassan. You can read about the day’s proceedings in Malaysiakini HERE.
Day 2 saw the committee quizzing Abdul Shukor again, this time on the huge amount of bonuses that the state-owned KSSB had paid its directors and employees.
Malaysiakini’s report on the second day’s proceedings can be read HERE.
That Malaysiakini report also quotes Manikavasagam as saying that he had obtained more documentary evidence implicating KSSB in the alleged corruption, more witnesses had come forward, including three KSSB contractors and two staff members, and that he would apply to the select committee on the last day of hearing to have the testimony of these witnesses presented.
“I am satisfied so far, but I think the hearing should be at least a week longer to hear the testimony of the witnesses who can nail the case against KSSB” , Manikavasagam is reported to have said.
Manikavasagam did in fact attend the final day’s proceedings yesterday.
Another Malaysiakini report yesterday on the final day’s proceedings suggests that the same was fiery.
I quote from the report :
“Tempers flared and voices were raised today when Manikavasagam insisted on calling his “witnesses” to testify before Selcat, while Teng maintained that they would first have to submit their written statements” .
“We have written to you to provide written statements from the witnesses so that they can be called. And you never even did it. This is a select committee of the state legislative assembly. You cannot just parachute in witnesses at any point of the hearing. You have to follow the Standing Orders. Or else this committee will be a laughing stock of the entire country” , Teng shot at Manikavasagam.
“There should be no cover-up. You have to call the witnesses” , Manikavasagam countered.
The Malaysiakini reporter describes Manikavasagam’s evidence as having ‘failed to impress Teng’ and comprised of a statutory declaration from one of his witnesses alleging price discrepancies, evidence of cheque transactions and an anonymous letter allegedly by a KSSB staff.
Let’s say she was right.
Let’s say Manikavasagam’s evidence was pathetic.
He, however, wanted to produce other witnesses to testify before the committee.
Teng wasn’t having any of this.
Manikavasagam, it seems, had been asked to provide written statements of those witnesses and he hadn’t.
Had not Teng or any of the other committee members seen the news reports of the press conference held by Manikavasagam on 31st May?
The video clip?
Zahar’s statements during that press conference?
Only the select committee members can shed light on these questions.
Did Teng or any of the other select committee members inquire as to the nature and purport of the evidence that would be tendered by those witnesses, if called?
Nothing in the Malaysiakini report suggests that they did.
What is reported, though, is that Teng was firm in insisting that the written statements that were requested by the select committee of those intended witnesses was required by Standing Orders of the state legislative assembly.
I made a few phone calls to a number of Selangor Aduns. None could categorically confirm if the Standing Orders necessitated such as was insisted by the select committee.
Had the witnesses on day 1 and day 2 all given prior written statements before they were called to give evidence?
Select committee members and the witnesses can confirm this.
What I had confirmed to me yesterday by someone who had recently testified before another select committee was that this person did so without having to first furnish a written statement to the select committee in question.
Let’s take stock again of the context in which Teng has declared that following upon due inquiry by the committee, there is no evidence to support the allegations of corruption against KSSB.
The announcement of the intended hearing clarified the same to be, not about allegations of corruption, but to investigate ‘the administration aspect to determine if there were weaknesses in administration’ .
On day 1 and day 2, the evidence elicited seemed to pertain more to the management of KSSB.
On day 3, when the select committee was urged to receive evidence of corrupt practices from other witnesses, they declined to do so.
So that the Standing Orders of the legislative assembly of the state of Selangor might not be disregarded, lest the select committee be the laughing stock of the nation.
What were the numbers quoted by Zahar?
500 35-ton lorries registered as 10-tonners illegally carted sand out of the area in a two-week period?
What’s this worth?
Maybe the select committee can confirm this.
Teng, trained in law, and a senior practitioner of the Malaysian Bar, in insisting that evidential material said to be proof of corruption be sacrificed in deference to the strictest compliance with house rules, appears to have lost sight of a legal maxim that is second to none.
Justice must not only be done, but be manifestly seen to be done.
On 11th May, 11 PKR MPs proposed an independent body, and not Selcat, to investigate the allegations of corruption against KSSB as “Selcat cannot investigate this… state-owned company”. Malaysiakini has that report HERE.
Another legal maxim comes to mind.
No man shall sit in judgment of his own cause.
ceo,suasa efektif
June 5, 2010
noway i m voting pkr ever.this pasty ids the real pengkhianat.asshole
hostage88
June 5, 2010
Either Selcat and Selangor state government is blind or the Rakyat is dumb!
Having followed the Sand Mining Industry since Aug., 2009, I can say definitely there is Cronysim and Corruption in Semesta.
The most shocking that appear before my eyes is the operations at Bistari, opposite the fruit Valley.
Besides that, UMNO boys are openly offering sand for sale from illegal operations at Sg Buah, Sg Chandan, Labu Lanjut.
They even openly say, they have to pay undertable royalty to Semesta.
The recently concluded Selcat hearing is definitely a cover up.
DSA
charleskiwi
June 5, 2010
But these are Umno members, they don’t get charged instead they charge people that
are their opponents !
More than that they run the police force, tell the AG who to indict and the Judiciary
who are to be found guilty and who are not ! This is bolehland.
Leong Yook Kong
June 5, 2010
Having conducted a check with the Registrar of Companies, the Department of Skills Development (DSD) under the Ministry of Human Resources has confirmed to me that it is satisfied that the change of name was effective on 2.4.2008. Why did DSD give a “blind” approval for accreditation to the private limited company to conduct skills training prior to registration and incorporation between the period 29.8.2007 and 1.4.2008 (more than 7 months)? By virtue of accreditation, the stakeholders had been cheated.
It is evident that an abuse of power or corrupt activity was created when DSD acknowledged the private limited company in the letter in 2007, which I received on 8.12.2009 to discredit and undermine my allegation. For almost 9 months, I am still following up on the issue.
Cheah
June 5, 2010
Thanks bro for posing the questions. The result of the Selcat enquiry was an anti-climax and “Mike” Manikavasagam must continue to pressure the state government. Has he appointed his own lawyer? Looks like he “let the cat out of the bag” and Selcat is selling its own version of the cat.
KS
Lynn
June 5, 2010
Thanks Harris for highlighting this. I had the niggling thought that all is not right when I read that Teng declared that ‘there was no evidential basis to support the allegations of corruption against the state government-owned sand mining company, Kumpulan Semesta Sdn Bhd’after 3 days of public hearings. My first thought was, he is either trying to ‘protect’ somebody or his prejudice against Mike Manikasagam has caused him to be partial. Your observations just confimed my thoughts.
If this is the way PR is going to behave, they no better than the current BN. Let us all stand up and speak out and demand that PR do the right thing.
nonymus
June 5, 2010
rocky bru trying to carry ur balls a bit.
donplaypuks
June 5, 2010
Selcat and Teng’s performance on the sand-mining inquiry have been pathetic to say the least!! More so after it strail blazing inquiry into Toyo’s excesses.
They should not stand on ceremonies or “rules”!!
The objective is to expose corruption and illegal practices and that, they should attempt without appearing to be eslective or protecting certain individuals.
Teng’s conduct has lost him a lot of friends and Pakatan too!!
Lastly, they should get the directors to return 4 months bonus. Really, paying themselves 6 months bonus even before the financial year was over, and then trying to justify it as though they were in the frontlines of Iraq and Afghanistan is not only laughable, but downright criminal!!
dpp
we are all of 1 race, the Human Race
steven
June 5, 2010
The past govt have used administrative weakness to cover up corruption. The present govt have adopted it. The public inquiry is just a show, again a strategy adopted from the previous govt. And I do not trust the Chairperson one bit…he is an actor.
Pee Right
June 5, 2010
The fact that Mike was threatened after lodging police report shows that there is truth in his allegations. Why would anyone threaten him if there is no truth at all?
tom yam
June 5, 2010
what the hell. just submit a written report. why so hard?
Habib RAK
June 5, 2010
Bro, I attended the 9hrs of hearing in person. I invite you to watch listen to the 9hrs of recording and then you tell us if it was conducted fairly or not. Even this video clip, as a lawyer, do you see any irrefutable evidence of corruption. Its just a clip of activities and a narration. Its allegation. YB was asked to submit it earlier but did not. Anyhow, he was still given the opportunity to submit it in writing and they will be called. Hearing was adjorned only till a later date. Its not over yet. Thus far, I too did not hear or see any irrefutable evidence of corruption. Anyhow, the hearing helped to expose many bad business practices which im sure will be included in the recommendation of the Selcat panel.
Habib,
Hence I said the contents of the video clip warrants an investigation. I could not say if it evidenced clear acts of corruption.
If the hearing has been adjourned to another date, Teng ought to have been more guarded when he issued his statement that was quoted in this post.
Your views always appreciated, Bro.
men@work
June 5, 2010
Blame no other for our own deficiency, NOT the past neither your enemy. PKR manned by human & to err is human ! BN,PAS,PKR,DAP are no-angels,its all about politic & survival.
Men@work
Artic turban
June 5, 2010
Did we trade one bunch of crooks for another? DOES PAKATAN WANT THE PEOPLE OF SELANGOR TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT PAKATAN, than clean up this mess without fear or favour, pakatan you are warned, I think time has come for you Harris to put up or shut up, come next elections I think we need people like you, bernard, art, malik and civil society bloggers, CLEAN AND PRINCIPLED PEOPLE SHOWING THE WAY FORWARD> to put up your candidature for state elections. If Pakatan covers this up than they are no different from Umno. I think it is time for Khalid-Umno mentality to step down and for somebody else to clean house. SACK THE CIVIL SERVANTS, ZERO CORRUPTION, Not words but action. I think time has come to kick Pakatan in the butt. I am totally pissed off with this business as usual attitude by the KHALID ADMINISTRATION. ANWAR EITHER YOU CLEAN HOUSE OR WE WILL DO IT FOR YOU COME NEXT ELECTION.
At least with umno we knew where we stood. Pakatan Selangor has betrayed the trust. YOU HAVE SLAPPED THE FACES OF THE VOTERS. GET RID OF KHALID.
Joea
June 5, 2010
Teng, if you can’t hack it, please quit. The Pakatan Rakyat State Government is behaving much like the BN whom we voted out.
I said you are stupid to declare that there is no corruption when you reject the offer of the complaint to show further proof.
Don’t tell me that the state Pakatan Leaders are being blackmailed by the UMNO civil servants so much so that you appeared to be afraid to find them guilty. It, at least, seems that way to me.
We are waiting to see those uncooperative civil servants sacked. Much about Khalid is ok but his soft touch with the recalcitrant civil servants is testing our patience.
mlm
June 6, 2010
I actually sat thru’ the entire inquiry too.
Teng seems to me like he’s asking all the right questions and made those on the hot seat quite uncomfortable throughout. He did not conclude the hearing, it is to be continued on an unspecified date should Mike submit the info required and follow due process.
Not defending Teng here but ‘Mike’ has been flip-flopping about testifying from day 1 and even before the inquiry was set up, he was already insisting there will be no fair trial and he decided to show up at the last minute and expect the session to run according to how he want it to.
So is it a cover-up or simply lots of unnecessary drama going on?
Osama
June 6, 2010
I agree with mlm and Habib RAK, those who attended and sat through the entire inquiry. It is better to form opinions from hearsay.
Both Habib and mlm had said that they the matter had not concluded, just that it will continue later, with all information and witnesses tendered in a proper manner for inquiry to be properly heard.
Mike could do better in this connection, and to please submit all relevant information to Selcat so that a thorough investigation can be carried out. Right now, with bits and pieces coming out of the blues, just how can an inquiry be conclusive? Mike’s efforts must be appreciated and applauded for fighting corruption, whoever they may be, but, please Mike, get all the information ready and if Selcat finds no fault, pass all the information to the MACC. Well done Mike, well done Selcat.
Osama
June 6, 2010
I agree with mlm and Habib RAK, those who attended and sat through the entire inquiry. It is better to form opinions from those who were there than from hearsay.
Both Habib and mlm had said that they the matter had not concluded, just that it will continue later, with all information and witnesses tendered in a proper manner for inquiry to be properly heard.
Mike could do better in this connection, and to please submit all relevant information to Selcat so that a thorough investigation can be carried out. Right now, with bits and pieces coming out of the blues, just how can an inquiry be conclusive? Mike’s efforts must be appreciated and applauded for fighting corruption, whoever they may be, but, please Mike, get all the information ready and if Selcat finds no fault, pass all the information to the MACC. Well done Mike, well done Selcat.
omaigod'
June 6, 2010
As one of those Selangoreans who voted YB.KHalid & co in GE12, I am really dissapointed at not only the way the enquiry was conducted but also the dictatorial attitude of Teng. Not only that the ‘verdict’ was tainted with personal feelings but grossly unjust. He had an axe to grind with Mike.No wonder Mike did a flip-flop whether to attend or not. Personally, I feel that this enquiry is still a long long long way go. Definitely, there is a sort of cover-up on the part of KSSB/contractors.Is there any valid explanation for the huge bonuses awarded ‘to themselves by themselves’ in a short service period.When you could grind and punish the beEnd cronies to the maximum why did you let the KSSB/contractors scott-free? Perhaps, your political will !!!!!!!!!!!!
sampalee
June 6, 2010
Selcat is going to be a mini version of umno courts.It stinks of politic.
nstman
June 6, 2010
Selcat has made the right call. There is no reason to doubt their sincerity and transparency. We should be going after Toyo and his bandits instead of internecine bickering among themselves. Pse dont be fooled by Barisan agents like Rocky and Ahmad A. Talib.
Mad Logic
June 6, 2010
Mani seemed a bit excessive in this belligerent behaviour. He should have expanded some of this energy in preparing well for the hearing. He had ample time. Mani seemed more a publicity seeker than a justice fighter.
Teng seemed excessive in his adherence to protocol. If justice is to be served there must be some flexibility.He should have at least listened to the testimony and then make a ruling or facilitate the witnesses to prepare a report if they are not able to do so. Mani should have done this in the first place but it is also well within the responsibility of Teng to help the witnesses by appointing a lawyer to help them.
On another note, 500 lorries carrying an extra 25 tonnes come to 12,500 tonnes. Each tonne is approximately 5 ringgit in pahang’s standard(pekan to be exact). This comes to RM63,000/=. Not much to be gained for such a massive operation. Even if the cost of sand is twice that of pekan,pahang that only worked out to Rm126,000/=. I am talking of ex-site price.
Sharing
June 6, 2010
When CM of Selangor called for exposure of land “irregularities”, a complaint on the Water Retention of Subang Jaya had been emailed to R Liu and the Office. But, there is no confirmation of receipt nor any feed back.
How can a Water Retention to be under Private Title to Sime UEP? How can part of the Town Park, enclosing the Water Retention Pond be given to PKNS to joint-venture with a Developer for the Wangsa Baiduri for a Condo Project? And, yet the land of the Club House was transferred to the sister company of the Developer before even the land for the Town house was sub-divided. And, this piece of land (and the club house) can joint with another half piece of condo land to give rise to an Hotel with service Apartment under the sister company?
At least half piece of the land for the Town park has gone to build Highrise, Medical Centre, hotels and Townhouses. These are reserved land under the National Land Code that cannot be re-alienated after the development of Subang Jaya.
Until now, 30 something years later, Wangsa Baiduri – Condo project is without even a recreation area as repeatedly specified under the Housing Approval of MPPJ/MPSJ.
Most of the 10% recreational area for each section of Subang Jaya had gone for commercial or other building. The areas were meant for public amenities for each section.
Other reserved land which should also not to be re-alienated in SJ, such as Highway borders, greenland has almost all gone for buildings. They are on the Structural Planning in 2007/2008. But, a lot has buildings or under construction.
These are billions of public land being mis-appropriated by the previous state government!! House buyers, residents of Subang are all victims!! Also shareholders who have share based on properties on those “missing” or “stolen” land.
Do they know what is Administration instead of Politics? Or, Laws?
Do they understand why People had voted them in?
RastamanJB.
June 6, 2010
Bro Haris,
With more clearer pictures emerging of the hearing,
me thinks Mike is like a chilli…..all hot in the begining..but selepas gulping a glssful of water….semua sejuk and kool….
Yes, now it appears the guy has turned cold.Just like the last time when he threat to quit.
Maybe this guy needs some intensive and rigourous coaching to conduct himself has an honorable MP…as of now… it appears his feet are too big for his shoes.
Maybe the party leadership should think of devising behavioral coaching sessions for these greenhorns.While the behavior of BN MP’s is bizzare (to say the least),Pakatan MP’s are turning out to be idiosyncratic.
Grow up Mike…..don’t go cutting your feet…go cut your large shoes…..otherwise your fight will be a vain attempt !!!!
Cheers
RastamanJB.
oA
June 7, 2010
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the video seems like it is a scripted “show” to set up the PR state govt.
didnt the grand old devil himself brought the sand issue up months ago … and now followed by this video just so to justify his allegation???
a coincidence???? … maybe not.
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temenggong
June 7, 2010
Mining sand without a license or a contract is theft. This can only happen with the collusion of the state owned KSSB and state bureaucrats, and that is corruption!
Trivialising this as ‘mismanagement’ is being an accessory to theft and corruption!
damansara
June 7, 2010
I’ve said then and repeating it now!!
Many of us were fooled thinking our vote that changed the government were well placed…. a heavenly act
The fact is, as long as the ‘alternative’ is led by Anwar Ibrahim and supported by the bozzos from DAP, might else well we give the premiership to Khairy Jamaluddin.
At least we dont have to bother about being shortchanged…kira halalkan je sume!!!
omaigod'
June 7, 2010
SO,YB.Mike, finally you compromised with your Selangor bosses. Don’t you think you owe an explanation to the rakyat who voted you in. The question is WHY did you compromise so easily? Where is your ethics? You were unhappy and said Selcat didn’t allow witness to testify, had strong evidence but was prevented from presenting and only given 10 minutes to speak. In the end you told the Selcat ‘not to cover the scandal. Well, the Selcat ‘dictator’ says there was never a scandal: it is all your imagination.You went to all sorts of trouble for a Selcat inquiry, finally to submit meekly to an injustice. Perhaps, the answer lies in POLITICAL WILL.
Sharing
June 8, 2010
Fighting for Justice in Malaysia is always a Uphill job as corruption parties have all the resources, gang-up not only with Power, but also all kind of Bullies or even “shits” – that put Laws in their own interpretation, if they want, or simply ignoring the Law, or, out-track proper procedures.
The Developer of Wangsa Baiduri told the Proprietors they have no Strata Title in place, when they were conducting the AGM of the Buildings. They did not provide list of registered proprietors for rights of votes or quorum checking. They used a lawyer to “confirm” non-resident parcels which were approved a Management office, Maintenance Office, Mini-market, Hair Saloon as being not a Common area or Common facilities!!They even asked security to bar registered proprietors to participate so that they can vote to give away the Common areas to the Developer.
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When Teng publicly announced:
“All we have is one person claiming that there is a demand made by someone else. And it is unfair for the person who was complained against (since the claimant has not acted further). So where is the scandal? I never saw any scandal,” he told a press conference after today’s hearing ended this afternoon. At the moment (these complaints) are just contract issues. These are to be determined by the courts, not by us”
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He already gave his own view before hearing!!
It is very similar to the opening of the Lingam case by the so called RCI.
What Mike wants is to investigate if there is Corruption. Whereas Teng already mentioned SELCAT is not in that direction. So, what the point of asking Mike for all the Evidences? And, so for the hearing?
Courts and a number of public hearings had shown the Public that almost none of these type of demand by the Public for Justice had ever been duly, fairly and correctly done. The hesitation of Mike to provide full list of evidences and witness are understandable. Same for Anwar to expose the Lingam tapes!!
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1. Construction sites are under supervision of the Authorities. Therefore, it should not be too difficult to get a rough guess of the monthly/annually consumption of sand. If the estimation is far from what KSSR is doing, there must be something wrong! Either the price is too high, so that the contractors are getting from nearby states.
Or, they are too far away from the construction sites. Or, the sales figures are not right!!
2. For a responsible State Government, they must be able to tell the public how are they going to “auditing” the amount. CCTV with recording should be a good choice with fence enclosing all the sand bays.
3. Construction sites should be instructed to file their record of where they bought the sand, or, the State should give them some convenient options.
4. Price wise, the State must regulate it so that if give some premium for those taking from their own state.
BASICALLY, IS WHETHER THE STATE HAS A MIND TO KEEP PUBLIC RESOURCES UNDER REASONABLE MONITORING AND BE RESPONSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC.
HAVE CAT BEEN REALLY AND EFFICIENTLY IMPOSED?
Sharing
June 8, 2010
Being a MP under a PKR, I wonder if he has lawyers to support him before, during and after the hearing?
Or, it will be very frustrating or a one-man fight which is not fair for him, as well as the public.
Or, where are the Rules and Proceeding governing such a hearing?
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http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/131374
May 9, 10 10:32pm
Kapar member of parliament S Manikavasagam has been urged to reveal the name of the Kumpulan Semesta Sdn Bhd (KSSB) official which he alleges to be corrupted.
Selangor Menteri Besar Abdul Khalid Ibrahim said Manikavasagam had nothing to fear as the state government would investigate his allegation.
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So what Teng said is contradicting what Khalid has said!!
BAISCALLY, WHEN THE VIDEO IS FILMED AT AN ILLEGAL SAND MINE, then, at least an explanation should be sought from the State Officials and the Land Office why they were there?
How long that illegal sand mine had been existing? And, what had those official been doing when illegal mines had been reported to them?
DID THE STATE GOVERNMENT PROVIDE THE INFORMATION?
sampalee
June 8, 2010
YB Teng,
You have ******-up.Just correct your obviouse mistake instead of destroying your reputation and that of dap unnecessarily
amd
June 9, 2010
I agree Haris. I am getting a bit bored with subscriber’s comments in malaysiakini. Most seem to be really pro PKR with very little sense of balance. I think malaysiakini ‘s comments will no longer be useful as a public forum to gage sentiments across the board. So I am glad there is your blog to read : ) Well done! Can you check Chang Kim’s background? He runs the show in Selcat and I wonder what kind of baggage he has.
amd,
My informants are checking as I write this.
In fact, they are digging deeper than you can imagine!
burn
June 9, 2010
something odd on this video. it seem, this video guy can openly videotape every happening without being interfere, warn or being catch. would a thief let ppl openly videotape them? this guy really have the time to add-in music and words in this video too? not bad! don’t you smell something fishy? could this video being make belief on purpose?