Update at 3.06pm on 4/9/08 : PKR Kulim-Bandar Baharu MP Zulkifli Nordin will be facing the party’s disciplinary committee on Saturday over his involvement in the disruption of the Aug 9 Bar Council forum – Malaysiakini report
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Correction & Update : I gave you guys the outdated address of PKR to write to.
Leithaisor, in a comment to this post, has saved my bacon and provided such a comprehensive list of addresses that you have no excuse for not writing now. Cheers mate.
Here’s the list of addresses.
Current address as per PKR website
http://www.keadilanrakyat.org/
A-1-09, Merchant Square, Jalan Tropicana Selatan 1
47410 Petaling Jaya
Malaysia
Tel: 03-78850530
Tel: 03-78850531
On-line message form available at:
http://www.keadilanrakyat.org/index.php/component/option,com_contact/task,view/contact_id,1/Itemid,23/
Contact form on Anwar Ibrahim website:
http://www.anwaribrahim.com/contact.asp
“Office of Anwar Ibrahim” newsletter e-mails have this reply address:
info@anwaribrahim.com
Based on that address, it might be worthwhile to try these possibilities:
anwaribrahim@anwaribrahim.com
anwar@anwaribrahim.com
ai@anwaribrahim.com
dsai@anwaribrahim.com
And thanks to Doc Saravanan, we now have the remaining two video links.
Part 7 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UefxgpQe1E
Part 8 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTpu_M-IhXc
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Yang Berbohong Zulkifli Nordin, on the demonstration outside the Bar Council on 9th August, and his involvement in the same :
‘There was no question of us stopping the forum. They have already discussed with the police to stop it… it’s not because of us. We were just there to put forward our views… you mean the Muslim cannot stand up and protect their rights,’
‘We Muslims have been tolerant enough all this while… so many years we have been forced to live under law that is not Islam. It is time for the Muslims to speak up and I would take the lead for the Muslims to speak up,’
– Malaysiakini report on 18th August.
Yet in an earlier Malaysiakini report on 9th August, this lying bigot is reported to have broken ‘ranks with his opposition colleagues when he called on the crowd to storm the building should the forum continue’.
“If you don’t hear from us at 10am, you should all storm the building,” he is reported to have said, before he led a four-member delegation to meet the forum organisers to voice the protesters grievances.
In the first Malaysiakini report referred to above, Yang Berbohong Zul is reported to have said that his stance did not conflict with the PKR position.
‘That’s the beauty of PKR because we have different views but we can get together… sometimes even contradictory views but we still sit together,’
Wong, in a comment to this blog, wrote :
While everyone was very much focused on Ahmad’s diss towards the chinese, we must not forget this other dude here, Zulkifli Noordin, the Kulim MP.
No doubt I love and want Pakatan Rakyat to take over, but Zul’s rhetoric that he played under PKR’s banner seems to collide with his Hyde’s side when he is representing the Malay Muslim Lawyers club;
Check this videos out and feel my worries;
Part 1 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=badZdXOt4CU
Part 2 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99yOPMhHR8c
Part 3 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zrb6eAtcAvU
Part 4 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04czSwCykhk
Part 5 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjg3tXwXwVs
Part 6 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvQOW0TSBfI
(Note: Part 7 & Part 8 is not available yet during this posting)
That is one case of a rotten bad apple.”
Watch these videos and ask yourself if this is what he means by his stance and that of PKR are the same?
Better still, don’t ask yourself. Ask Anwar.
Here, I’ll make it easy for you.
Y Bhg. Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim,
Advisor,
Parti Keadilan Rakyat,
No.17, Jalan 16/2,
Petaling Jaya,
Selangor.
( Fax No. : 03-79565444 )
Go on, write Anwar and ask him if Zul’s stand as depicted in these videos reflects the stand of PKR, and if not, why in heaven’s name is this man representing the good people of Kulim in Parliament?
Ask Anwar how did this bigot get into Parliament? What went wrong with PKR’s selection process?
I’ve had occasion in the past to call this bigot a bearer of false testimony.
I’ve watched these videos and I’ll say more now.
Zulkifli is a liar who uses alarmists tactics, subtly merging race with religion in his sermons to get the Malays agitated say that he may achieve his ‘Islam-as I say-ist’ ends.
Now, I will await his writ so that I can plead justification and repeat the same in court.
The People's Parliament 
Peter
September 3, 2008
PKR is no longer in Section 16. Their office is now at Merchant Square, Kayu Ara
sheriff
September 3, 2008
Haris
Is there an e-mail address for DSAI? I would very much want to know what he’s doing about Zulkifli Nordin. After all, my family and I voted enbloc (4 votes) for PKR in the last GE. That would be 8 votes for the federal and state seats.
I am sure other would want to know the e-mail address too.
cancan
September 3, 2008
This is trait no.1 in “Traits of the Malaysian politicians”.
Link: http://www.kingsmary.blogspot.com/
suresh
September 3, 2008
When we speak for Malaysians or Bangsa Malaysia we mean what we say. Likewise we expect the leader DSAI, possibly the only leader we believe who could help us realizing the dream in the present moment, to clear the air affecting this black spot named Zulkifli.
I agree with you and Wong that Dsai is obligated to all Malaysians who support him. It is a must he shows us that he too means business when comes to racist and hypocrite like Zulkifli Nordin
Pichai
September 3, 2008
You are rotten Zulkifli! People like you bring shame to Islam! Grow up kid! Grow up!
SR2
September 3, 2008
But Harris, that’d be true of all whom the PKR would be inviting into their folds to form the next government.
In fact, if all goes well, we’d have a brand new government of “Zulkiflis” in 2 weeks, and they’d would look, sound, behave, talk, walk, do, shout, rant, complain, lie, cheat & close one eye, almost exactly like the current government, the ones before this. Is this what we are all waiting for so anxiously?
Whilst I support the PR and voted for them, I wish they would put in the effort to find suitable candidates, set themselves a more realistic deadline and stop making earth-shattering announcements.
mark c
September 3, 2008
representative like this needs to be dealt with decisively.
it would put more credence to the rhetoric of a bangsa malaysia rather than just loose talk by PKR.
Avtaran
September 3, 2008
Well said Haris.
Interesting that PKR has not done anything about this black sheep. Should we take PKR to task on the manifesto they endorsed before the general elections and are now looking sideways.
Which is why like I said before that we must not make the same mistakes we made with the BN, where we did not take them to task all these years. We must take PKR and their partners to task to ensure what we carry out what we all set out to do here- to make our representatives accountable to the rakyat.
I wonder what will Zulkifli Nordin do if his constituents see him and ask him if he endorses the idea of Bangsa Malaysia.
The ball is in Anwar’s court. Will he walk the talk on this.
Barbara J
September 4, 2008
I’ve written to Salehuddin Hashim (salehuddin.hashim@keadilanrakyat.org) wrt to Zulkifli. I felt I had to because he was undermining all the good work done by PKR and Anwar. As you’ve asked, I wonder how he got passed the gate keepers.
artic turban
September 4, 2008
The answer is very simple Harris, kulim election results are being contested, and there is a very good chance that there will be a bi-election, now if PKR puts this moron up to stand against the bn opponent, very simple tell everyone to boycott this moron and in other words pkr, if the politicians don’t want to listen than they have to face the rakyat’s reaction.
For DSAI, it would be wise to cut his losses and put in another candidate in this morons place, anybody will do.
Saravanan
September 4, 2008
Part 7 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UefxgpQe1E
Part 8 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTpu_M-IhXc
wandererAUS
September 4, 2008
Be patient with Dsai, nothing comes perfectly, as one may wish. It was in good faith, this Parliamentary seat of Kulim was offered to him by PK. Zulkili has now shown his true color, as an unsuitable and unworthy YB. Still without remorse, he has tainted the good name of PKR for what it stands for, “REFORMASI”. He should be principle enough to resign from his seat.
His extreme views contradict PKR polices. This bad apple has taken advantage of PK and used it to cater for his selfish beliefs…his beliefs, do not sit well with a multi-racial and multi-religious country like ours. Let’s respect his right to his beliefs, equally, we demand, he does like wise with others.
flyer168
September 4, 2008
Dear Haris,
That is a great piece of “Investigative” compilation of evidence on this MP for Kulim involved in the Bar Council Forum fracas.
I believe Bloggers are not pro any party nor personalities, except to establish the “Truth” to restore “Justice, Freedom & Equality” you have achieved just that – syabas Bro.
About time we “Identify” with evidences and “Shame” them “Opportunists, Bigots, Traitors, etc” within the fold of PR if we wish to establish a truly new “Ground Zero” Government “By the People & for the People” with the new dawn of this great nation – Malaysia for Anak Bangsa Malaysia.
Abdul
September 4, 2008
There was a MalaysianInsider commentary, the Kalimullah type commentary titled:
Abdullah and Anwar — flip sides with the same thinking. This is what I wrote in response:
1. Zul didn’t call non-Muslims names but demanded the stoppage of a meeting.
2. Zul didn’t call the Chinese squatters and immigrants unlike Ahmad.
3. Zul didn’t represent his party but his Lawyers’ Association unlike Ahmad who represented the campaigns of his party.
4. Zul didn’t didn’t engage in racism but a religious argument that doesn’t have any relation with the “immigrant” hysterical diatribe of Ahmad.
5. Anwar is not a PM but Abdullah is one and the buck stops at his door.
6. Anwar was categorical in his answer but Dollah is not.
7. Anwar didn’t defend Zul but Dollah defended Ahmad.
8. Anwar’s party wholeheartedly condemned Zul but Ahmad’s party warned Gerekan against demonising Ahmad.
9. Anwar’s party demanded an explanation from Zul but UMNO didn’t.
10. Zul stated that his case was related to the Muslim Lawyers Ass. and had nothing to do with PKR or PR. Ahmad on other hand represented UMNO.
11. Anwar as a person condemned Zul’s action and said the BC meeting should have been allowed but Dollah never said something of the sort.
12. Dollah lashes at others (read opposition) for being seditious but doesn’t take action against seditious AMNO people.
wong
September 4, 2008
kudos to saravanan for posting the last 2 parts of the clips. The 2 final clips is more spine chilling. Let’s say if another may 13 is gonna happen when UMNO instigators took to the streets, I wouldn’t be surprised if our honourable Kulim Mr.Jackyll & Hyde will be among the ranks of his GPMS or PEKIDA buddies waving parangs and chanting hate and death to the non-Muslims.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all.
shar101
September 4, 2008
ZN’s behaviour at the BC forum is totally unacceptable and he should be censured by PKR’s disciplinary board.
His explanation that he is a muslim first, above everything else, makes a mockery of “amar maaruf, nahi munkar” which literally means uphold the truth, oppose evil. He has deliberately ignored the intent of the forum and played a game of ‘who’s holier now’ with his brethren from UMNO/PAS/GPMS/PERKIDA, etc on the street below.
The fact that muslim representatives were present at the forum to participate and rebut where necessary was not mentioned by ZN, as if, only his presence or others of his ilk, will bring credibility. But he refused to confront the ‘enemy’ and honorably defend Islam, didn’t he?
By the same token, ZN was part of the defense team in the Altantuya case who then recused himself citing ‘political interference’. Not much of a ‘defender’, is he.
If you feel equally outraged, then please send an e-mail to:
Datuk Salehuddin Hashim, sec-gen of PKR –
salehuddin.hashim@keadilan.org
I believe Helen Ang did likewise last week through her article at Mkini.
To recap, this was AI’s response at the time:
Leithaisor
September 4, 2008
This Zulkifli matter is most troubling. And may well turn out to be a hugh stone around Anwar’s neck in his efforts to march to Putrajaya and boot out the Abdullah Badawi, Najib and the rapidly sinking BN government.
For sure, Zulkifli is a most welcome propaganda weapon for UMNO.
And turning quite a number of Anwar/PKR supporters into doubtful supporters or fence-sitters. Some may even have stopped supporting Anwar/PKR.
Those intending to write to Anwar about Zulkifli may find these bits of info useful:
Current address as per PKR website
http://www.keadilanrakyat.org/
A-1-09, Merchant Square, Jalan Tropicana Selatan 1
47410 Petaling Jaya
Malaysia
Tel: 03.7885.0530
Tel: 03.7885.0531
On-line message form available at:
http://www.keadilanrakyat.org/index.php/component/option,com_contact/task,view/contact_id,1/Itemid,23/
Contact form on Anwar Ibrahim website:
http://www.anwaribrahim.com/contact.asp
“Office of Anwar Ibrahim” newsletter e-mails have this reply address:
info@anwaribrahim.com
Based on that address, it might be worthwhile to try these possibilities:
anwaribrahim@anwaribrahim.com
anwar@anwaribrahim.com
ai@anwaribrahim.com
dsai@anwaribrahim.com
ls
September 4, 2008
Becareful…this guy is dangerous…
Menyalak-er
September 4, 2008
While PKR and DSAI are keeping ‘mum’ on this, basically artic turban said (12:15) is what would be their best ‘option’; although this is the type of stuff we disdain. Your allusion to ‘QC’ is most apt, as some ‘damaged goods’ occasionaly do get through.
This type of archaic mindset is very difficult to change, and the QC’ers must do a better job with due deligence. Perhaps a psychometric test for would-be candidates? Haha.
Although it galls us that the spectre of 0513 is raised, wong(1.00am) isn’t the only one that feels this is so.
donplaypuks
September 4, 2008
Poor Chap Zulkifli Nordin. Is it too much to ask for Syariah law for all.
I don’t think so. Let’s all chip in and buy him a 1 way ticket to Iran. His calling will be answered. Let him try the storm the Syariah Bar Council there. lol
On another tack, just read in M’sian Insider that Telekoms sold for $1 their 60% stake in celcom in Guinea in Africa, incurring a $25 loss. Shades of MV Augusta & Proton again? Wha and who are they covering up for?
http://donplaypuks.blogspot.com
check out my blog ‘The Sept 16th Chronicles’
donplaypuks
September 4, 2008
Haris,
sorry, it should read $25 million loss.
Hoyohoyo
September 4, 2008
The Malaysian Insider has an Op-Ed about this just recently… The writer thought that both DSAI and AAB are adopting the same tactic, i.e. wait something else to divert public’s concern over the cases…
Zulkifli Nordin and DSAI succeed… AAB and Ahmad Ismail not quite…
PKR leaders’ response was however… awfully little, subdued and scarce… We’d the VP Dr Syed Husin Ali partly defending by saying the party suggested a closed door rather than open forum…
Later we saw him saying Zul Nordin was issued show-casue letter… and expressed his regret over the protest having held by a party colleague…
other than him… YB Tian Chua the “Chinese voice” from the PKR was just quoted “We can’t get into contact with him right now”…
It seems to me the PKR leaders… be it Malay Chinese or Indian… were not really into commenting or reacting towards the controversy… which is actually quite surprising because many of PKR leaders are street activists, prominent writers and NGOs reps who usually got no problem in speaking and commenting… and often involved in conflicts to uphold their believes without surrenders…
Adopting a wait and let it rest eventually tactics…
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Oh by the way… did you read about the (old) news that Kedah government is banning rock, pop, R&B, hiphop and reggae concerts, allowing only nasyid and patriotic concerts?
The MalaysiaKini spinners are not interested in commenting it though…
sang kancil
September 4, 2008
En H Ibrahim,
I salute you for calling a spade a spade. I have been following your blogs and I must admit, I do admire your stand. I thought that the Opposition Mps have the understamindg of fighting fo rthe Rakyat and not along religious or racial line. How mistaken I was when I heard that an YB of PKR together with his counterpart in PAS undertook this hideous demonstation against a legitimate and legally organised forum by the Bar Council.
I agree with you 100% that action/(s) need to be taken against such bad apple(s) to ensure that DSAI’s apth to PutaJaya is successful.
Wishing you selamat berpuasa in the holy month of Ramadan.
Sang Kancil – formerly from Melaka
Jed Yoong
September 4, 2008
PErhaps QC doesn’t exist in PKR.
Check quality of PKR leaders in Perak.
Malaysian Wannabe Again
September 4, 2008
Haris
Good on you for resurrecting this issue again. I will bet anything that PR and DSAI are hoping that the Rakyat will forget this ZN issue as there are more exciting news with the Ahmad Ismail controversy to distract the Rakyat. Thank you for keeping everyone honest and showing that you are non bias.
A bigot is a bigot and should not have a place in PR if PR honestly expects the Rakyat to believe their rhetorics. However, it is all about politics and the scheme of things within the political arena. After all, ZN is a MP in the PR ranks and DSAI need the numbers to form Government. Losing him means that DSAI has to get 31 defectors, one more than necessary now. This ONE more may make the difference between success or failure.
I fondly remember one of my teachers who said “sometimes the ends justify the means”. At the age of 10, I didn’t quite understand but it all makes sense now. For us who are pure in heart will say “What good is it that you possess the whole world but lose your soul” but for a politician, “what good is it that you are true to your rhetorics but lose the election. That’s life in politics.
We have to ask ourselves this question now – Do we allow this bigot to remain in PR so that DSAI can achieve the goal of forming Government or rid him and risk failure? I am sure in time, this bigot will get it in the butt but it is all about timing. We have waited 51 years so what is a few more months. I believe that once the defection begins, there will be a rush of defections. When the numbers are there, watch the haste in getting ZN expelled. It would be even better if the challenge of the election result for Kulim is successful and another bi-election is to be held. ZN will definitely lose the preselection and Wan Azzizah put in his place. That would be poetic justice.
Littlebird
September 4, 2008
YB= Yang Berbohong!!! LOL!!! and regarding YB bandar Kulim…he is out. Same group as YB Tutup mata. In fact, it is safe to say PR only got 82 – 2 = 80 for now. The other one is the great toad. Perhaps they are worried of PAS reaction.
mala
September 4, 2008
Part 3 is seditious. He is just saying that other races are living in the mercy of Malays. How racial can he get – worse than UMNO! It makes me ponder… how many PKR reps out there are similiar to this guy. When will we know their true colours?
The Watcher
September 4, 2008
Wow! Look at Part 7 posted by Saravanan above. Yang Berbohong says that East Malaysians speak bahasa Tarzan so they do not need a Malay language bible.
Peter
September 4, 2008
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wira
September 4, 2008
This Kulim leader advocated violence to stop others from expressing an opinion.
I won’t want him to be my leader in PKR.
I hope he loses his case and Kulim folks will get another chance to elect a better MP soon.
We’ll pray for this to happen.
Bigjoe
September 4, 2008
OK. I believe Zul has to be punished in some way. But frankly at this point, DSAI is preoccupied with seizing power. You are going to have these misfits in PR at this stage.
Look even UMNO/BN is going after these people now, does DSAI have a choice eventually to get rid of misfits like these?
Now is not the time to harp on implementation weakness. Its true many are still suspicious of Anwar including myself but the man has done and is the only one able of doing a great service to this nation if he gets into power. If he does not get it all right now, its our misfortune and our responsibility to make sure he does it sooner or later.
Expect DSAI to eventually fall short. Those who think they are going to get perfection with DSAI, better readjust their thinking.
‘They were glorious, and they changed the world. Then we f*****-up the end game’ Charlie Wilson..
better future for all
September 4, 2008
Yea, PKR should sack him just as Umno should sack Ahmad for his remarks – both are similar.
One a religious bigot, extremist, this country is already pro-Islamic what more does he want – non-Muslim blood?
the other a racist without understanding of his own roots (son of an Indonesian pendatang)
The-Avathar
September 4, 2008
Oh my god or whatever names that you’re called.Why did you create this kind of “homo-sapiens”? Was it a QC problem or some six sigma program that went all wrong.
DSAI we voted for you to bring changes and not to breed such religious bigot!Take a stand on such people and do not allow scumbags like this to lead any constituency. If ZN wishes to be holy I am ok if he becomes a imam and does gods work, thinking again better not!
navinda
September 4, 2008
This Zul said that he is a Muslim first and a PKR member second. We Muslims are guided by the Koran and our way of living is determined by the Holy Scripture.As such we Muslims can safely claim that we are Muslims first and others come second. His claim is rather amusing he being a lawyer. WE find Zul’s behavior and speech unbecoming of a true Muslim. Being rash and irrational is not becoming of a Muslim.
As a person given the responsibility of representing PKR in Parliament, having been voted in by people of different races and religion, he should have had the common sense to steer clear of such controversial act.
He does not deserve a second chance and if selected to stand for election under the PKR banner, be boycotted by all.
We have enough morons from UMNO in the Dewan Rakyat and need not send one from PR.
omarkhayyam
September 4, 2008
harris my man,
this is what we wanna see among bloggers, a real check and balance to rid this country of racist and greed centered bigots.
yang berbohong zulkifli nordin you must have been a hidden garbage that ought to kicked out of this land.
u can run but u cannot hide u
cheers
Truth Shall Prevail
September 4, 2008
I would like for everyone to review the videos and please tell me if it is the same message as being spoken by Nordin. Please watch closely and although you might say the voice is not synchronised please watch and see if those words can match the movements before and after its been spoken. I believe that somebody is up to mischief…trying to ruin PKR’s stand. Saudara Rocky sila ambil perhatian.
ycg
September 4, 2008
Thanks for not forgetting. 13th GE, PARLIAMENT for HARIS!
Naidu
September 4, 2008
Anwar & PKR must really pull their socks up. This is really sick. First there was Ezam, then Saiful & now this piece of shit. Anwar must prove that he can govern his party well before he tries to prove that he can govern Malaysia.
Mr Smith
September 4, 2008
Yes, that’s the right word – “rubbish”. I call him a scum. However, it would not be fair to drag in PKR for his folly.
Give Anwar time and he will act. If Kulim is declared vacant by the court (which is possibility) I would hope he will be dropped as PKR candidate.
Then the rubbish would have been discarded.
Richard Loh
September 4, 2008
As a Kulim resident, I am absolutely offended by the Kulim MP’s remarks. His behavior was very unbecoming and very uncouth to say the least of an MP. After this incident, my friends and I have decided that he is just not fit to represent the Kulim community anymore as MP. If there is going to be any by-election in Kulim, I sincerely hope that Pakatan Rakyat will field some other capable person to replace him.
clearwater
September 4, 2008
Yang Berbohong Zulkifli Nordin……. you put it so succinctly, Haris. The honorific says it all, he is truly a Y.B.
sklee
September 4, 2008
Hi, Haris,
I agree with you that this chap is a bigot and is not fit to represent the people of Kulim Bandar Bahru.He should be strongly reprimanded by PKR.In the impending by election he should not be considered at all!
faizal
September 4, 2008
Better inform PKR Chief cum PM-In-Waiting,
This joker will LOSE BIG if there is a by-election, not only is he unfit, you can bet BN will encode this videos and distribute them freely and for once, I feel it’s fully deserved if it happens even though I am a PR supporter.
Utter hyprocite and scumbag!
Truth Shall Prevail
September 4, 2008
I am telling you guys the voice has been added on to the video
Truth Shall Prevail,
I’ve dealt with Zul often enough on the Syariah Law Committee to know his voice and style of speech.
It’s him
billauchris
September 4, 2008
This bloke in my opinion is a wolf in sheep’s clothing; besides, he is like a bigotted camelion which changes its skin’s colour according to the environment.
In my view, ee is no different in both attitudinal and behavioural make-up than another UMNOputra leader. Firstly, he is a politician who often plays to the gallery to perpetuate his waning support of the masses.
He tongue is forky and cannot be trusted. The video recordings speak volumes of his character.
This could a planted mole of which PR leadership must be aware. The insiduous damage(s) he can wreak and cause to the movement can be destructive.
I think he should be sent for rehabilitation in the PKR’s boot camp for doctrinal indoctrination.
As far as I am concerned, I will keep him at arms’ length.
jimbo
September 4, 2008
IMHO, this is the same reason why the PM is not pushing for Ahmad to apologize. Just as Badawi needs support for the upcoming party elections, DSAI still requires the Kulim seat. Whatmore when the seat is Malay and extremely hard to come by at times like this?
joseph
September 4, 2008
oh my goodness,
i can’t imagine him making statements as if he is going to have jihad on people who embraces other religions. even to fellow malays bro/sis who have embraced other religions.
if we think UMNO championing ketuanan melayu is evil, in his mind, i can’t imagine what other evil plans he has in “religion” cleansing in malaysia.
amy
September 4, 2008
i respect that the rakyat is cautious who they want to put up there should PR come into power (I’m all 120% FOR IT!) but don’t you think that we should just sound out to DSAI and let him take the next course of action deemed fit? Why can’t we allow DSAI to settle one thing at a time first (heck, we allow those BN GOONS 50 years to destroy us and say nothing before!!!)??? Pre-empting things ourselves, too? Don’t worry, we shall remind DSAI from time to time and I’m very sure he’ll heed this call eventually. Meantime, forget about this ADUN cos he’ll face the music later if PR were to take over come Sept 16th. You can bet we will not forget!!!
Peter
September 4, 2008
This article was duplicated at Malaysia Today which is doing an extremely good job at keeping the rakyat informed. However, just compare the languages in the comments there and here. It is sad that RPK allows obscenities, racial and rude remarks and open himself to actions by the authorities. I just wish someone who is close to RPK can advise him to keep the rude comments out of his highly valuable blog. Unfortunately, I do not have an account there, otherwise this comment will be duplicated in the article there. I would hate to lose that valuable blog because of uncontrolled and very rude comments.
abusyukri
September 4, 2008
Well actually he did not passed the QC.He was rejected by PAS.He was considered as too radical even by PAs standard.
how he manage to joint as PKR candidates is beyond my comprehension.
btw all is not lost.His court case is still pending. Did not summit his previous account? phwe…lost for words again…
Patek1472
September 4, 2008
The Courage to Build a New Malaysia.
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The year is 2008. This is the year most Malaysians finally woke up from a deep slumber. Most Malaysians were just too busy earning their living and building up their lives to take notice that times have changed and the idealism spouted by our founding Fathers have still not been accomplished for this country even today.
It was not so long ago in 1957 and then for our fellow East Malaysians in 1963 when the ideals and dreams preached by the late Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra Al-Haj (Bapa Kemerdekaan and Bapa Malaysia) for Malaysia were first announced and was greeted with joy in the hearts and minds of all Malaysians. The late Tunku Abdul Rahman had a dream and ideals, just like Martin Luther King, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela and many others including the prophets over the history of mankind.
Many a times such dreams were hijacked and led astray under the guise of nationalistic, racist and religious idealism by so called politicians and self declared and appointed righteous and religious persons (Little Napoleons). Individuals who have risen to continue some of such idealisms are gagged, isolated, bankcrupted, blasphemied, rehabilitated or worst jailed, for it is deemed not in consonance with the dreams and idealism of the elected parties agendas.
Laws are legislated and passed at whim in Parliament to change the idealism of the Supreme Law of the Land (The Malaysian Constitution) and to cloak such party and individual agendas. It is true, Malaysia, conforms to the democratic process as practiced by most western countries in elections (even though tainted but unproven). But once given the trust to be elected as a leader or representative of the people, party and individual idealism overtook national idealism, and The Jeykll and Hyde personality emerged to be repeated over and over again at each and every election and by-election.
Malaysians have being led astray for so long, that what is right is blurred, what is wrong is tolerated, what is evil is condoned, what is fair is pouted as unfair, what is immoral becomes moral and corruption and close one eye need to become a part of our accepted daily lives. Jealousy, hatred, greed, racism, plundering and satanism starts to breed in Malaysian minds, and brothers, friends and fellow Malaysians were looked upon as enemies or as inferior human beings. Once a while, such nets were cast ashore to include anything to do with other countries or other races which do not belong to one’s own race or religious beliefs.
The minds and souls of Malaysians are so polluted and poisoned for so many years that it seems that Malaysia is the only all correct country and we should rule the world by our way. Examples of countries which follows Malaysia or is it we following them are, such as North Korea, Zimbabwe and Israel. What justifications can you tell your own generations or future Malaysian generations that what you are doing to fellow mankind and more so to your own fellow Malaysians that it is righteous and correct, when, it is at the expense and sufferings of your own human kind and fellow Malaysians?
Can you say to them I did it to follow the orders and teachings of God or party political agendas? Who gave you such inspirations and idealism? Do not absolve your own wicked mind and greed nor take a ride on someone else wicked mind and greed. Do not pick and choose in the Books of God nor the man-made laws to justify or suit your own twisted and idealistic minds. You can fool others due to their ignorance or emotions at some time but you can’t fool forever a man’s conscience nor your own children or hopefully one day your own when such enlightenment comes to you.
The courage to change things which are not right in Malaysia nor achieve the ideals of the Founding Fathers is not impossible. Most Malaysians have woken up to the fact that the future is going to be determined by it’s own citizens thru their own conscience guided by their own religious beliefs to live a harmonious and productive life of correctness and not the type of political, racial or religious correctness as preached.
Parties and their own agendas do not take priority over the Founding Fathers ideals and hopes of all Malaysians. Religion and principles are as a guide to your own conscience to make sure whoever is the leader do not lead Malaysians nor society astray.
For in the end, what is just and right should surely overule anything else for any leader or their party agendas.
Does your Representative of the People (Wakil Rakyat) or You! have the courage?
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Keberanian Membina sebuah Malaysia Baru.
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Kini ialah tahun 2008. Tahun inilah rakyat Malaysia terbangkit dari tidur yang nyenyak. Kebanyakan rakyat terlalu sibuk mencari nafkah dan membina hidup mereka untuk memperhatikan zaman telah berubah dan idealisma yang didukung oleh Bapa-bapa pengasas negara masih belum tercapai untuk negara sahingga hari ini.
Tidaklah lama dahulu pada tahun 1957 dan untuk seteman kita di Malaysia Timur pada tahun 1963, idealisma dan impian yang diucapkan oleh Allahyarham Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra Al-Haj (Bapa Kemerdekaaan dan Bapa Malaysia) untuk Malaysia diumumkan dan disambut dengan penuh kegembiraan didalam hati sanubari rakyatnya. Allahyarham Tunku Abdul Rahman mempunyai impian dan idealisma sama seperti Martin Luther King, Gandhi, Nelson Mandela dan ramai lagi termasuk nabi-nabi sepanjang sejarah manusia.
Kerapkali impian-impian tersebut dirampas dan diselewengkan dibawah kepura-puraan nasionalisma, perkauman dan idealisma keagamaan oleh ahli-ahli politik dan orang-perseorangan yang memilih dan melantik sendiri sebagai jaguh kebenaran dan beriman (Little Napoleon). Individu yang membangkit meneruskan idealisma tersebut tidak dibenarkan bersuara, diasingkan, dibankrapkan, dicercakan, dipulihkan dan lebih teruknya dipenjarakan cuma kerana tidak mengikut aliran impian dan idealisma agenda-agenda parti terpilih.
Undang-undang digubal dan diluluskan sewenang-wenangnya di Parliamen untuk mengubah idealisma yang terkandung dalam Perlembagaan Malaysia dan menutup muslihat agenda parti dan individu. Memang betul diperkatakan Malaysia mengikut peraturan proses demokratik seperti yang dipraktiskan kebanyakan negara-negara barat semasa pilihan raya (walaupun tercemar tetapi tidak terbukti). Tetapi, selepas sahaja diberikan kepercayaan dan dipilh sebagai pemimpin atau wakil rakyat, idealisma persendirian dan parti mengantikan idealisma nasional dan personaliti Jeykll dan Hyde timbul kembali untuk diulangi pada setiap pilihan raya besar dan kecil.
Rakyat Malaysia telah dipimpin secara tersesat sekian lamanya sahingga apa yang benar dikaburkan, apa yang salah ditoleransikan, apa yang jahat ditutupkan, apa yang adil disebut sebagai tidak adil, apa yang tidak bermoral dijadikan bermoral dan korupsi dan tutup sebelah mata menjadi-jadi dan perlu diterima sebagai kehidupan harian kita. Iri hati, kebencian, ketamakan, perkauman, perampuk dan sifat setan mulai membiak di minda rakyat Malaysia dan sahabat, kawan dan rakyat Malaysia sejagat diperlihatkan sebagai musuh dan manusia tidak setanding. Sekali sekala, pemikiran seperti ini dilontarkan kepada negara asing yang tidak sebangsa dan seagama sendiri.
Minda dan jiwa rakyat Malaysia telah dicemari dan diracuni bertahun-tahun lamanya sahingga ternampak macam Malaysia sahaja yang paling betul dan kita harus memerintah dunia mengikut acuan kita. Contoh negara-negara yang mengikut Malaysia ataupun yang kita mengikut
mereka adalah seperti Korea Utara, Zimbabwe dan Israel. Apakah justifikasi yang boleh diberikan kepada generasi sendiri ataupun generasi rakyat Malaysia yang akan datang tentang apa yang kita buat kepada manusia sejagat terutama kepada rakyat Malaysia sejagat adalah betul dan adil padahal ia dibuat atas pengorbanan dan sengsaraan manusia sejagat iaitu rakyat Malaysia sendiri.
Bolehkah kita memperkatakan, saya melakukannya demi menurut perintah dan arahan Tuhan atau agenda politik parti? Siapakah yang memberikan kamu inspirasi dan idealisma tersebut? Jangan sekali-kali mengampuni minda dan ketamakan sendiri atau menumpang diatas minda dan ketamakan orang lain. Jangan memetik dan memilih dalam kitab-kitab Tuhan atau Undang-undang manusia untuk menjustifikasikan atau menyesuaikan mengikut idealisma dan kehendak minda kamu yang tersongsang. Kamu boleh menipu yang lain atas kejahilan atau emosi mereka pada masa tertentu tetapi tidak akan dapat menipu suara hati manusia atau anak sendiri dan barangkali suatu hari nanti diri sendiri apabila nur cahaya mendatangkan kepada kamu.
Keberanian mengubah yang tak betul di Malaysia untuk mencapai idealisma bapa-bapa pengasas negara tidak mustahil. Kebanyakan rakyat Malaysia telah membangkit dan sedar bahawa masa hadapan negara akan ditentukan oleh warganegara sendiri melalui suara hati mereka dengan panduan kepercayaan kepada agama masing-masing untuk hidup berharmoni dan produktif secara betul dan tidak mengikut acuan politik, perkauman atau keagamaan yang dikutbahkan.
Agenda parti dan persendirian tidak boleh diutamakan berbanding idealisma dan harapan bapa-bapa pengasas untuk semua rakyat Malaysia. Agama dan prinsip-prinsip adalah panduan kepada suara hati kamu untuk menentukan sesiapa yang menjadi pemimpin tidak mengsongsangkan rakyat Malaysia ataupun masyarakat.
Kerana pada akhirnya, apa yang adil dan benar tentu diutamakan oleh setiap pemimpin ataupun agenda parti masing-masing.
Adakah Wakil Rakyat kamu ataupun Kamu! mempunyai Keberanian?
http://patek1472.wordpress.com
alhadee
September 4, 2008
Response from me, a Sarawakian, posted in MT
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This time Bar Council should organize a forum touching directly Article 121 (1A), but please do organize it in Sarawak.
And while at that, please do highlight to the East Malaysians how their languages are described as ‘Bahasa Tarzan’.
Next, MT readers please do contribute air tickets to the 300 Talibans for them to come over here and try their antiques again, this time in Sarawak.
The people of Sarawak, land of the Head Hunters will do the cleaning this time around.
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This should be highlighted, please do pass the word around. Especially if you have friends from Sabah and Sarawak.
After 16th Sept, we need the 54 Sabah and Sarawak MPs to secularize Malaysia once and for all.
And owh, not to forget, Sabah and Sarawak are the 2 out of 3 state oil producer which contributes 47% income to Malaysian economy. And most of it is being use to feed the 99% Malay-Muslims in the public sector.
Melayu oh melayu. Tunggu sahaja la 16 Sept. Tak cukup kah merompak duit minyak orang-orang Tarzan ini? To many East Malaysians, Melayu dari Malaya are pendatangs and perompak.
Sarawak and Sabah really got a bad deal forming Malaysia with the Malays in Malaya. A very big mistake. Just look Singapore. They made a wise decision in jumping out. Sabah and Sarawak should have follow suit. How I wish we can turn back time!
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panca
September 4, 2008
Haris,
Like everyone else who voted for new leaders to move toward a progressive Malaysian Malaysia, we certainly didn’t want a bigot to represent us.
The strainer of PKR have leaked. I have respect for DSAI and Dr Syed Husin Ali, we went to the same polling station, we spoke too. This BC situation represented the process of democracy where those present were from all faiths but suddenly the least expected comes from a PKR elected MP.
We don’t need such people, there are many illiterate people out there who behaves and knows how to be reasonable, certainly NOT HIM.
Do you think he is for a Malaysian Malaysia? We love all the races but he does’t not.
ivankong
September 4, 2008
haris, good write. keep your articles going.good man
panca
September 4, 2008
Haris,
Like everyone else who voted for new leaders to move toward a progressive Malaysian Malaysia, we certainly didn’t want a bigot to represent us.
The strainer of PKR have leaked. I have respect for DSAI and Dr Syed Husin Ali, we went to the same polling station, we spoke too. This BC situation represented the process of democracy where those present were from all faiths but suddenly the least expected comes from a PKR elected MP.
We don’t need such people, there are many illiterate people out there who behaves and knows how to be reasonable, certainly NOT HIM.
Do you think he is for a Malaysian Malaysia? We love all the races but he does not.
su
September 4, 2008
Haris,
THIS is what I sent to Anwar. I hope he reads it.
su,
Just read your letter. I, too, hope he reads it.
NewsObserver
September 4, 2008
Suadara Harris,
I am a resident of Bandar Kulim and we have voted for PKR with this traitor representing us in this area as an MP. We felt cheated by this extremist and we truly would like to ask YB Dato’ Seri Ibrahim not to field him in the coming by-election if it is coming soon. We (my family) have already write him off so don’t hope for any of our votes if you think he can gather our support again.
Zulkifli Nordin to us is like a wolf in sheep skin and we can smell it out. His blogs lies like the “arm-no” and probably he is a spy to destroy PKR.
– NewsObserver
cruzeiro
September 4, 2008
Haris,
I’m still watching the video, and need to see it again, before I can write about what he said specifically.
Moreover, I wouldn’t wanna question the “contitutionality” of his rantings before the totally blur audience, which was designed for the camera.
Whatever said & done, This is the face of NEP education – the unthinking seige mindset, and a vulgar manner.
In general, Every decision of judges pertaining to matters of religion & human rights, is twisted using emotions, to be seen as an attack upon the religion of Islam, just because it was probably he (or his sidekicks) who lost the cases.
This is simply because he seeks an extremist platform to launch his political career, which caters to the unthinking fascists who seek power.
It is most pathetic that he could actually equate the “serban” issue, to an attack on “Islam”.
Kinda miss people like Mahathir, when faced with idiots like these …..
It is sad that Anwar shirks his duty to stand up to these simpletons, simply because he FEARS to offend these small minded people, who seeks to subscribe to democracy and the Constitution, as long as it gives them the opportunity to subvert it.
I hope Anwar sacks this guy or withdraws his PKR membership in due time – I believe he’s actually a mole, who is meant to create discord within PR.
(Unless ofcourse Anwar wishes to start a “Ketuanan Islam” if he achieves power).
Anwar will regret it one day, if he chooses to ignore this imbecile …. and the Pembela for whom he speaks – among these are power crazy guys who’ll stop at nothing, including using religion to subvert the Constitution.
It’s laughable that the Assn. he represents can have a moron like him speaking for them. And I always thought that these guys were pro-Umno since the ’88 Judicial crisis and establishment of the Syariah courts….
BTW, shouldn’t he be disbarred for some of the things he said?
Let me get back to the video now …..
Mustafa
September 4, 2008
Kalau dia nak cakap kepala jadah apapun kenapa hampa nak kisah? Kan hampa semua pendokong kebebasan bersuara dan berekspresi?
Ataupun, kebebasan bersuara dan berekspresi tu hanya untuk apa yang hampa rasa betul jer?
Saudara Mustafa,
Dalam kami mendokong kebebasan bersuara dna berekspresi, kami juga sedar dan terima bahawa kebebasan-kebebasan ini juga ada batasannya.
Batasannya dilampaui apabila seseorang menyampaikan kepalsuan sebagai kebenaran dan cuba menanam perasaan supremasis serta benci antara kaum dan agama.
Alex
September 4, 2008
The problem is not just Zulkifli. The freaks who wear those silly white caps have got it completely wrong about their own beliefs. Someone suggested Zulkifli shud be sent to Iran to fully enjoy his Shariah Law. Dead wrong. In Iran, Zulkifli would probably be burned at the stake as a heretic. In Iran they are Shiahs. Zulkifli is something else. The Iranian version of Shariah is different from Zulkifli’s.
What makes things worse is that both claim that their version is the best and the rightest and that it comes from God. People like Zulkifli who claim to fight for Islam tend to think that in places like Darfur in Sudan, Muslims are being killed by Christians.
In Darfur, Sudan Muslims are killing Muslims. The Arab speaking and Arab wannabe, black as charcoal Muslims in one part are fighting the non Arab speaking but Arab wannabe black as charcoal Muslims in another part.
These people cannot agree on anything, especially their Shariah. Zulkifli’s rantings about Lina Joy, Aishah Bukhari and others are just that – rantings.
TorrentSpy
September 4, 2008
Harris, Im no bigot, and I have relatives married to Chinese and Indians. I also have Christians, Buddhist and Hindu friends. But I agree with Zulkifli Nordin. He is not talking about race or insulting any other races. He is talking about ISLAM. He is talking about misrepresenting and misunderstanding of the religion. Lets us not get so freaked out about the talk. It is by a Muslim and our rights. How would the Sikhs feel if we attacked them for wearing their turban at school and saying that it is too religious and against the Constitution? How would a Sikh feel if a Muslim come and correct them on how to practice their faith??
Respect is the KEY. We respect others and the freedom to practice other religion but WE have to defend our rights as a Muslim from being trampled by those who insults our faith on the foundation of Freedom of Speech, faith bla bla..
Give us a break. Why is everyone so sensitive when it comes to Islam? Any chance to insult Islam, Muslim and non Muslim alike will bombard the comments box. Non Muslims without proper understanding would jump the bandwagon without any hesitation. WHY?
TorrentSpy,
Thank you for your comment and the courtesy with which it was presented. We need more of this calm presentation of differences of opinion.
Your viewpoint as made out in your comment in fact makes my point that Zul’s alarmist and dishonest presentation of, amongst others, the decisions of the Federal Court and efforts by the likes of Imtiaz and myself in cases like Lina Joy and Moorthy, are, unfortunately, swallowed hook, line and sinker by Muslims without further investigation.
For your benefit and the many other Muslims who have fallen for Zul’s spin-doctoring and lies, I will try to do another post and present why I say he lied in his ceramah depicted in those videos.
And I will try to present the evidence.
Please bear with me if it takes longer than I intend.
navinda
September 4, 2008
“We Muslims have been tolerant enough all this while… so many years we have been forced to live under law that is not Islam. It is time for the Muslims to speak up and I would take the lead for the Muslims to speak up”.
It is this type of rantings that has caused so much of misery to the majority. We have to also consider the other religions and beliefs and their rights, expectations, and hopes. As a country with such diversity in race and religion let us not impose our religious beliefs on others. Many of us accept the need for the forum organized by the bar council and Zul is one of the minority projecting himself as a leader for the majority.
I like chopin
September 4, 2008
Dear Haris
Wanted to finish watching all the six parts but could not stand beyond the first.I wonder what kind of family environment he grew up in and upbringing he received that moulded him into such an extreme bigot.I don’t think his parents are doing a good job.
Anyway,with 916 less than 2 weeks away,let’s just hope that Anwar will topple BN and after things have settle down,we shall pursue this matter more vigorously.Nothing short of a sacking from PKR is acceptable to all because he is a stumbling block towards a harmonious multireligious and multiracial Malaysia which we all dream of.
alhadee
September 4, 2008
Haris,
This is the same people who claimed to uphold Article 153 Federal Constitution which, according to their narrow minded interpretation is all about “ketuanan Melayu’.
Why don’t they read again the said article.
Reproduce;
‘It shall be the responsibility of the Yang di-Pertuan Agong to safeguard the special position of the Malays and natives of any of the States of Sabah and Sarawak and the legitimate interests of other communities in accordance with the provisions of this Article.’
With that, the action of one Taliban, Mullah Zulkipli is therefore illegal and against the Federal Constitution and therefore he should be charged for treason against the State.
Mullah Zulkifli is a traitor. Go back to Afghanistan!
Truth Shall Prevail
September 4, 2008
Alright Saudara Haris, If you said so that it is him than I believe you. Thanks for the good work and the PP elections coverage I have not thanked you. You have beeen doing a great job. Terima Kasih from the bottom of my heart ..its people like you who should help run this country and only then we will be liberated.
toolan
September 4, 2008
Thanks for info anyway, I went into DSAI website/blog and posted this very question already. How is PKR handling Zul? Why is he in PKR when his stands is different from party’s ideology.
Thanks again, waiting to see if DSAI reply’s.
Patek1472
September 4, 2008
To Be Or Not To Be, That is the Question. (Nak jadi ke tak jadi, Itu Soalannya)
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Phrase from William Shakespeare’s Hamlet, Prince of Denmark
To be, or not to be, that is the Question:
Whether ’tis Nobler in the minde to suffer
The Slings and Arrowes of outragious Fortune,
Or to take Armes against a Sea of troubles,
And by opposing end them: to dye, to sleepe
No more; and by a sleepe, to say we end
The Heart-ake, and the thousand Naturall shockes
That Flesh is heyre too? ‘Tis a consummation
Deuoutly to be wish’d. To dye to sleepe,
To sleepe, perchance to Dreame; I, there’s the rub,
For in that sleepe of death, what dreames may come,
When we haue shuffel’d off this mortall coile,
Must giue vs pawse. There’s the respect
That makes Calamity of so long life:
For who would beare the Whips and Scornes of time,
The Oppressors wrong, the poore mans Contumely,
The pangs of dispriz’d Loue, the Lawes delay,
The insolence of Office, and the Spurnes
That patient merit of the vnworthy takes,
When he himselfe might his Quietus make
With a bare Bodkin? Who would Fardles beare
To grunt and sweat vnder a weary life,
But that the dread of something after death,
The vndiscouered Countrey, from whose Borne
No Traueller returnes, Puzels the will,
And makes vs rather beare those illes we haue,
Then flye to others that we know not of.
Thus Conscience does make Cowards of vs all,
And thus the Natiue hew of Resolution
Is sicklied o’re, with the pale cast of Thought,
And enterprizes of great pith and moment,
With this regard their Currants turne away,
And loose the name of Action.
http://patek1472.wordpress.com
nicholas1234
September 4, 2008
nice blog but some what offensive
mala
September 5, 2008
Dear Yb Zul & lain lain yang sama frekuensi denganya:
What have you all done to solve This:
– remaja Islam yang menjadi mat rempit, Bohsia dan kadar anak luar nikah yang tinggi ( I deal with Malay teenagers and I can tell you Hikayat 1001 malam of cases which is really alarming and frightening!!!)
– rakyat Islam yang miskin dan terpinggir di kota-kota besar.
– pak tani dan pak nelayan yang duk di kampung yang kais pagi makan pagi
adakah dengan membetulkan undang-undang dan mengembalikan Lina Joy ke Islam akan menyelesaikan masalah-masalah ini?
Pleaselah…. jadi manusia dulu sebelum jadi Islam!
Kueytiaw
September 5, 2008
Cukup susah nak cari calon untuk bertanding atas tiket PKR semasa pilihanraya lepas. Nak cari ahli pun payah.
Sekarang ni, semua berebut nak tunjuk muka.
Cuma ada beberapa orang yang sanggup nak jadi calon pada masa itu. Dan kita perlu hormati kesanggupan mereka, termasuklah Saudara Zul Nordin.
Most comments above come from deep hatred. Not really on the specific issue.
mtan
September 5, 2008
Dr. Mahathir persoal kenapa Melayu sahaja perlu minta maaf
PUTRAJAYA 4 Sept. – Tun Dr. Mahathir Mohamad hari ini mempersoalkan mengapa orang Melayu sering dituntut memohon maaf sekiranya mengeluarkan perkataan dan catitan yang boleh ditafsirkan sebagai perkauman.
Bekas Perdana Menteri berkata, sebaliknya apabila orang bukan Melayu mengeluarkan perkataan atau catitan yang boleh ditafsir sebagai perkauman, orang Melayu tidak pernah menuntut pihak tersebut memohon maaf.
Beliau memberi contoh memorandum Hindraf kepada Perdana Menteri United Kingdom yang bukan sahaja penuh dengan unsur-unsur perkauman tetapi juga bersifat hasutan.
”Seorang penuntut universiti Wee Meng Chee telah perlekehkan Negaraku dengan mengguna lagu Negaraku tetapi dengan lirik yang mempermainkan sembahyang dan azan orang Melayu (Islam). Azan dijadikan duet lagu cinta.
”Apakah mereka dikehendaki memohon maaf? Apakah pemimpin mereka dikehendaki memohon maaf? Jauh sekali.
”Sebenarnya Wee dipertahan oleh pemimpin-pemimpin parti Cina dan anggota Hindraf dibebaskan daripada tahanan dan ada yang dengan bebasnya bertanding dalam pilihan raya dan menang menjadi wakil rakyat,” katanya dalam laman blognya, http://www.chedet.com.
Dr. Mahathir berkata, orang Melayu hari ini sebenarnya takut jika mereka dilabelkan perkauman.
Katanya, tahap ketakutan orang Melayu hari ini sehingga apabila hak mereka diburuk-burukkan dan diserang, mereka tidak berani mempertahankan diri.
”Sesungguhnya keadaan hubungan antara kaum bukan lebih baik hasil Pilihan Raya Umum 2008, tetapi ia menjadi amat buruk.
”Mungkin saya dituduh sebagai menyumbang kepada keadaan melalui tulisan saya, tetapi pada saya amatlah tidak adil jika satu pihak dapat kebebasan sedangkan pihak yang ditohmah tidak boleh buka mulut,” katanya.
melony
September 29, 2010
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