The Majlis Pimpinan Pusat PKR met today.
On the agenda, amongst others, was the re-constitution of the PKR Sabah state leadership.
Azmin’s out.
The PKR division chiefs have made it clear that he’s not wanted.
Have these division chiefs made it clear, then, who their choice is to lead Sabah PKR to face BN at the 13th General Elections?
If there were doubts until today, the fax received at PKR HQ this morning should have put those doubts to rest.
In a fax message addressed to PKR president Wan Azizah, 14 Sabah PKR division chiefs put their signatures to this message, naming just one man as their choice to lead PKR Sabah.
Keningau division chief, Datuk Dr. Jeffery Kitingan, is the choice of the strongest PKR divisions in Sabah.
My source who was at the meeting at Merchant Square today said Anwar made it clear at the meeting that he was not going to have any of this.
“No way in hell will I have Jeffrey as chief”, Anwar is reported to have blasted.
Anwar, it seems, is determined to see a Muslim lead PKR in Sabah because, it is said, he insists that Muslims make up the majority in Sabah.
That may be so, if we take into account the millions of illegal Muslim immigrants granted citizenship during Anwar’s days as DPM to Dr M.
Surely Anwar must know this. His hands are as tainted as that of Dr. M’s with the dilution of the political strength of the indigenous people of Sabah by the influx of Muslim immigrants who were later given citizenship in return for enforced allegiance to BN at the ballot box.
Even if it is true that Muslims now are the majority in Sabah, have we not gone beyond communalist, race-based and religion-orientated politics to that of meritocracy?
Is that not what PKR and Pakatan are supposedly championing?
The decision on the new Sabah PKR state leadership would suggest otherwise, at least as far as PKR is concerned.
I am told that the party leadership will announce that the man given the task to lead PKR in Sabah is Libaran division chief and Sabah PKR state secretary, Ahmad Thamrin Hj Zaini.
My source in Sabah tells me that Thamrin is an Anwar loyalist and his appointment will not go down well with the division chiefs and the PKR grassroots in Sabah.
Worse, I’m told that this man is a race and religious bigot.
Speaking to a division chief who is Muslim but is supportive of Jeffrey as PKR state chief, Thamrin is said to have asked of that division chief, “Kamu sudah masuk ugama Kristian, ke?”.
Malaysiakini reports today that Sabah Peoples Progressive Party (SAPP) has rejected overtures to get them to join the anticipated formalised and registered Pakatan Rakyat coalition, if it ever materialises.
Yong Teck Lee, SAPP president, gave as reasons for this, that SAPP sees little difference between BN and the proposed opposition alliance and noted that “Pakatan in Sabah still took orders from Kuala Lumpur and this apparently made it impossible for Sapp to be a member of the opposition alliance”.
“We have no intention whatsoever of joining Pakatan Rakyat. It will be against our struggle to win back the autonomy of Sabah and prevent the federal government from continuing to interfere in Sabah affairs”, Yong said.
All of this leads to three questions and one message for Anwar.
First, how the *#@* did you ever dream of taking the federal government last September 16th, apparently counting on the support of Sabah and Sarawak when, it would seem, you haven’t a clue of how to win the hearts and minds of their locals, leaders or otherwise?
Second, is your ‘Ketuanan Rakyat’ any less sloganeering than Najib’s ‘1Malaysia’? Is it from the heart or just skin deep?
Third, are you truly the changed man from your UMNO days, or are you now a closet Malay nationalist, because you see it as politically expedient?
The message.
I want to repeat here something I had said in my letter to Anwar on 18th August last year.
“On Black 14, I heard you use the phrase ‘Ketuanan Rakyat’ for the first time.
Do not waver from this.
End race politics.
End the politicisation of Islam.
You must be brave enough to tell the Malays that this country belongs to all the anak-anak Bangsa Malaysia, to remind the Malays again and again that UMNO’s ketuanan Melayu is unIslamic and has been their evil tool to enrich themselves and divide this nation.
Do this, and be assured of the strongest support from the majority of anak-anak Bangsa Malaysia who, by far and large, are decent people.
…A final reminder.
The rakyat today are not like that of 16 years ago.
We understand national issues better, we are better informed, and we have a greater sense of commitment to the ideals of justice and equality.
And we have a newly found self-belief to pursue these ideals and to pursue change.
Understand and remember that we are no longer afraid.
We fully understand today that governance of this nation was intended to be in the hands of the people, and that when you and your party leaders offer to govern, it is with a view to serve us.
Therefore, understand and remember that it is we, the rakyat, who govern through those who have taken oath to serve us.
It is only by abiding by that oath that you might honourably be called a leader of men.
Any less and you would have proven yourself to be no better than those whom you now endeavour to displace”.
The People's Parliament 
Michael Sun
October 25, 2009
Hi Haris
RIGHT ON! Are PKR members UMNO members in PKR clothings?
If we start to dismantle race and religion from politics, Malaysia and the world will be wonderful place to live in.
Saya Anak Bangsa Malaysia.
Brian
October 25, 2009
Dear Haris,
If what you say is true, and I have no reason to doubt it, then it is the sad end of the PKR or is it pkr. If you do have the avenue to Bro Din, it might be a good idea to intimate to him what your thoughts are to see if what Anwar,s thoughts are real or is he playing to the East Malaysian gallery.The more crap we get from the BN clowns,it makes me sad that all we did for the 12th GE was all in vain, backing the wrong horse.
Suraya
October 25, 2009
Hi Haris,
Your words; “And we have a newly found self-belief to pursue these ideals and to pursue change.
Understand and remember that we are no longer afraid”.
I fully agreed with you my dear Haris.
And to my dear Anwar Ibrahim, pls don’t put me and the rakyat puzzled by your action.
Suraya Hashim
Mont Kiara
Joan
October 25, 2009
This thing called race still features very prominently here. From the ordinary people right up to the leaders of both govt and opposition. Comments from your readers to your earlier post on the appointment of Baru to head PKR Sarawak also drew many comments that a minority should not lead the majority.
I’m really sad to read of this and I’m almost resigned to the fact that it may take another 50 years before the country moves away from race, color or creed and begins to recognise people for who they really are. When will we ever begin to accept that if the minority is an able and trusted leader, he should then be given the mandate to lead.
Is there really meaning in all that you are trying to do, in Saya Anak Bangsa Malaysia ? Will we be a voice in the wilderness, finding support from opposition leaders when it is convenient for them, but otherwise it remains a rhetoric ?
Really Haris, what is your take on this ?
Joan,
We in the SABM initiative do not delude ourselves that the change of ‘One People, One Nation’ that we desire will come overnight.
It requires the concerted effort of all who want to see this change become a reality.
My friends and I have begun the first baby steps in that long journey.
Gomen
October 25, 2009
Interesting read Bro,
Politicians throughout history have tried to solve every problem conceivable to man, always failing to recognize that many of the problems we face result from previous so-called political solutions. Government cannot be the answer to every human ill. Continuing to view more government as the solution to problems will only make matters worse.
Believing we have perfect knowledge of God’s will, and believing government can manage our lives and world affairs, have caused a great deal of problems for man over the ages. When these two elements are combined they become especially dangerous.
Liberty, by contrast, removes power from government and allows total freedom of choice in pursuing one’s religious beliefs. The only solution to controlling political violence is to prohibit the use of force to pursue religious goals and reject government authority to mold the behavior of individuals.
One of the major reasons we’ve drifted from the Founders’ vision of liberty in the Constitution was the division of the concept of freedom into two parts. Instead of freedom being applied equally to social and economic transactions, it has come to be thought of as two different concepts. Some in Congress now protect economic liberty and market choices, but ignore personal liberty and private choices. Others defend personal liberty, but concede the realm of property and economic transactions to government control.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul342.html
amoker
October 25, 2009
wow, you got good insight. The PKR leadership is given to a Muslim and we guess that Anwar is adamant in his choice. That is really bad considering that many of these Muslims are not the real orang asal but were given the citizenship. The small cuppa is the Jeffrey is heading a task force. It is what we called a belgian compromise
sinkeh
October 25, 2009
If Annuar said what he purportedly said about having a Muslim to lead PKR Sabah, I am sorry for him and for those who have had so much faith in him so far.
And this includes me.
Paul Warren
October 26, 2009
It would be absolutely disappointing if the reason for Jeffery Kittingan not being picked to lead is because Anwar or anyone else wants a Muslim to lead.And for Anwar to suggest that Sabah has more Muslims, is nothing but wickedly mischievous. I have driven from Kota Kinabalu to Kudat and along the way, maybe for every 10 churches you may see a single mosque. Fair enough the mosque alone will stand grand and made of brick and mortar whereas the churches would be wooden structures. But that does not give you more Muslims does it? And even if there are more Muslims, so what? Why be such a bigot?
jefferi78
October 26, 2009
it is become obvious that pakatan rakyat is no different than barisan national. sabah and sarawak will be in the same malay ultra mentality with propaganda twist. tunku abdul rahman made lots of promises and signed autonomy agreement to ensure sabah and sarawak support to malaysia federation. again, we see those same kind of promises made by anwar. we never will know if those promised by the pakatan rakyat leadership will be fulfill or kept. they even broke the promises when we had a black and white, how can we trust the empty mouth promises?
pakatan rakyat = (pkr + dap + pas) is not the solution and way to ensure the past promises be kept. sabah and sarawak had those leverage many years ago but greedy local assemblyman take it away just like that. now, we need some new agreement if anyone want get sabah and sarawak support. to achieve this is not easy. sabah and sarawak has to work together and form their own independent and equal coalition without the influences from the malaya.
sabah and sarawak should rise their stake hold more higher instead of giving all of the decision to the malaya MPs to decide. we should have equal chance to govern and lead the country within the existed constitution without the malay worried about their rights and so on. if the malay want us to trust them to govern the country, can they trust sabah and sarawak bumiputra non muslim to govern malaysia because they are also native by rights and have the same definition as the malay?
the central government that mainly occupied by the malaya MPs has influence the social and economic development of sabah and sarawak states. sabah and sarawak has no say about what being decided at malaya states. how can this one way direction can be allowed to happen for such a long time?
now, it is a right time for sabah and sarawak to get a new deal due to the political support shift in malaya. if we get a good deal, there will be no need to demand for the out dated federation agreement. i believe it is not easy to achieved but if sabah and sarawak didn’t take this opportunity, we never know when this opportunity will come again.
Hoyohoyo
October 26, 2009
I’m not sure why are you championing for Jeffrey Kitingan…
Jeffrey isn’t holding a good track record either, remember 1994? He was part of the kataks who brought down the PBS Sabah government wasn’t he?
Hoyohoyo,
I am championing a democratic process, not Jeffrey.
RockyMountain
October 26, 2009
Hoyohoyo,
Tell me who are the politicians in Malaysia who had not in one way or another stepped into another party no matter how short the sojourn was? Is sticking to one political party no matter what is paramount important for a politician?
Hoyohoyo
October 26, 2009
That was the problem I think lies with the whole system. Early this year PKR passed a motion to amend its constitution, to so called “democratize” the party by allowing the members to vote for their leaders directly, but only in the central level.
I personally do not think it makes a party any better by allowing “direct election”. The same goes to the UMNO’s constitution amendment to increase number of voters. I don’t think it is any effective or better.
With all these exotic hoo-haas, often enough people forgot to ask, what about local/state leadership? To my knowledge, only DAP and Gerakan (I’m not sure about PPP and East Malaysian parties) allow election for state leadership. Appointment of state leadership of UMNO, MCA, PKR, Pas and etc are all done by the central leadership.
I don’t know which way is better.
eagle
October 26, 2009
Why can’t you just wait and see and get more detail rather than spinning the whole issue.
Don’t tell me that Anwar can simply say something that is detrimental to the PKR position!!! and it is even detrimental to his ambitions where he will continue to dream, dream and dream!!!
Stop rubbishing brother!!! If you want change… it is not ANwar, LKS and TG Hadi but we the people wants change or else we will remain under the liar, robber, pirate and idiot moron of BN/UMNO.
What need to be done is to get thing move and the end state is CHANGE.
Toh Boo Huat
October 26, 2009
HI,
i have been commenting all along in numerous blogs and i am syaing it here again. we still remember AI’s days as MOE where appoinmtent criteria of GB at SK(c) became a big issue. he was, is and will always be AI. Remember the recept PPSMI issue, AI again revealed his true color.
I am most likely not voting for PR again in the next GE unless SOME DRASTIC changes are made.
SABM
dinobeano
October 26, 2009
Suraya,
Haris Ibrahim comes strong because he is passionate about ground up politics and democratic politics.I respect him and am in touch with him. But Haris knows that PKR (and Pakatan Rakyat) is still the best hope for Malaysia and by the way, we were the first political party to endorse his People’s Declaration and PKR has not abandoned that commitment.
I know Dr Jeffrey Kittingan and Ansari. Let us not judge them too harshly.Both men are committed to the struggle for change.They are professionals in their own right with very strong views.But as men of maturity and reason, they have learned to compromise. The appointment of Dr Kittingan as coordinator of the newly formed National Integration Council was made with the full knowledge of Ansari.
On Dato Seri Zahrain, I think the party wants him focus on his parliamentary duties. He has still direct access to Anwar Ibrahim as part of his inner circle of advisers and associates at Party Headquarters.
Dr. Mansor Othman is the logical choice to take over as PKR Chief for Penang, a position he held before. He is now Deputy Chief Minister 1, which will be helpful to the party machinery. Again, I suggest we should read too much into this change which was announced by Dato Seri Wan Azizah yesterday. BTW, the change in Penang was made in consultation with Dato Seri Zahrain himself.–Din Merican
dinobeano
October 26, 2009
Haris please not the correction “…we should not read too much into this change which was announced by Dato Seri Wan Azizah yesterday.”–Din Merican
dinobeano
October 26, 2009
Haris please note the correction “…we should not read too much into this change which was announced by Dato Seri Wan Azizah yesterday.”–Din Merican
bangkalipoeylukiaka
October 26, 2009
Yes, Brother Haris. If Anwar and Hadi continue to make mistakes, the next GE will spell a doom for them.
They will be remembered as the people who kill off the Two-Party System and this is exactly what UMNO wants it to be.
The Strategic Planner in UMNO has succeeded.
All the mismanagement and corruption in the federal guomen especially in the UMNO will be forgotten and those big sharks can sleep in peace.
SABM
October 26, 2009
Anwar showing his true color?
SABM
October 26, 2009
Remember Batang Ai by-election? There was local hot favorite who was a Chiristian, he was by passed and another Muslim was chosen instead for the same reason I guess. The result PKR was trounced with larger najority defeat.
Anwar doesn’t learn.
uncle buck
October 26, 2009
I was like minded about Anwar as you have been, my friend. If Anwar can get a second chance from us I don’t see any reason why Jeffrey can’t also. It’s time YOu, Sam Haris seriously consider registering Parti Anak Bangsa Malaysia as a political party. That way the people will really not be played out.
SpeakUp
October 26, 2009
When I told people LONG ago cannot trust DSAI, I get lambasted. I am glad that Haris has some inside info that shows its probably true. DSAI will be the downfall for PR. Let’s not forget Zul Nordin okay … how DSAI will not deal with him. Long Live The Saviour of Malaysia … Hahahaahahahahhaaaaa …
Pat
October 26, 2009
I sign my name beneath yours – under all that you have written in red.
And I, too, am not championing anything but the democratic process. It is surely not what any one person wants. It is about what the people want.
Peace, Haris. May we all find peace. And, soon.
Tom
October 26, 2009
Maybe, DAP n PAS(TGNA type) should seriously think of leaving PKR(UMNO rejects with UMNO mentality) out of the equation for PR. There no place for racist in PR i.e if PR is serious about the next GE.
I.Hanafi
October 26, 2009
After the Perak debacle, I was seriously considering joining a PR party, up until now I know why I didn’t. Look at Zaids’ position. Why Tengku Aziz join DAP. What is Hassan and gang doing to PAS.
Maybe Haris should form a truly democratic party for us to join. God help us please.
Bigjoe
October 26, 2009
If Sabah had gone the way of a Christian-secular state instead, it would have made this country truly unique..
lone ranger
October 26, 2009
Haris
Takkan tak tau lagi kut. You’re a smart guy. Heck, Anwar is not even an elected official of PKR. Wan Azizah jadi President ada power ke or just menonggeng je.
arianna
October 26, 2009
Dear Haris,
Ahmad Tamrin??! What a sick joke! That goes to show Anwar knows nothing about that man. He might as well ask a gardaner to head the Sabah division!
I can see that Anwar has not change a bit. Still trying to exploit Sabah and impose his umno streak of ‘ketuanan melayu’. This Muslim thing in Sabah don’t work well with the locals because we don’t vote or live that way.
Anwar thinks more about the illegal immigrants than the local population.
If Jeffrey is bright, he and rest of his supporters should leave PKR now and join other local-based opposition parties. PKR will never make it in Sabah whith Anwar’s approach.
My friends and I have decided to dump PKR and we are looking at local parties now.
RockyMountain
October 26, 2009
They say a leopard never sheds its spots, so does not Anwar Ibrahim. He is still very much a man with UMNO mentality after all these years!!
Tat
October 26, 2009
Dear Haris,
I really don’t understand. Do U know that everytime U and others writers start to whack PR leadership, U create doubt in people’s mind about PR ability to govern this country.
And funny enough, when by election happen, you and all the same writers will try to persuade the people to vote for PR.
If BN fella not good, and PR people also not good. Than I hope U can show us who is good to lead this country. Don’t only whack both side, but give no guidance for who to lead.
It is easy to talk/write than to actually do it yourself. I do hope that person who have a right mind and big vision about democracy will offer himself/herself into the politics i.e be a candidate.
lone ranger
October 26, 2009
Tat
Ever heard of reverse psyco?
Patriot
October 26, 2009
Haris please read this SABAH – “No way in Hell will I have Jeffrey as Chief” …betul ka ni? and respond.
Patriot,
Have read the post, and yours.
Will try to make time to respond.Can’t say when, tho.
Su
October 26, 2009
I have never trust AI. That is why as long as he is there ( officially or unofficially ) leading the opposition, I will not vote the opposition. I can accept dap and pas but not AI.
The two party system is good, but can you imagine what it will be like with AI as the pm?
Patriot
October 26, 2009
Su,
What all of us are hoping for is to not only help put into place a 2 party system, but also a system of check and balance. When those are in place, who is PM become, not not important but much less important. I hope you too will help us realize that by voting wisely and put into place a system of check and balances so even if Anwar Ibrahim becomes PM, we need not fear.
clearwater
October 27, 2009
AI disappoints me too. An orator he is ; a doer, a man driven by unquestionable principles, he is not. Whatever he is or lacks or hides behind a facade, if the system has adequate checks and balances, we can survive him. Pakatan Rakyat needs him, warts and all, at this juncture.
sing
October 26, 2009
If anyone thinks that leopards (read RACIST plus RELIGIOUS BIGOT) can change its spots, let him be the first to be mauled and torn into pieces by those BEASTS!
Never trust such beastly racists!
vsp
October 26, 2009
What charm has Zulkifli Nordin over Anwar that he is so shy to rebuke or discipline this turkey? Anwar is very eloquent in his speech and writing but is very lacking in the visibility of his actions. Until and unless Anwar starts to walk the talk, he will be perceived as a charlatan.
Now another problem has arisen in Sabah and Anwar is exhibiting his ineptness as a visionary leader. While the Pakatan is burning down, Anwar is too busy cultivating a different constituency overseas. What the heck is Anwar so enamoured with his upscale foreign clienteles that he has totally abandoned to nurture his fledging child at home? In the meantime there is quarelling, plotting and stabbing galore among his coalition partners and also within his own party and no actions were taken to steer the Pakatan into the right path.
If this situation still persists up to the end of 2009 and Anwar is still fiddling with his new passion then let Pakatan be buried and a new party without any racial baggage be formed sans Anwar.
eaglewings
October 26, 2009
I am with you on this one Haris…… Ketuanan Rakyat. Sick and tired of all this stupid race issues.
Realist
October 27, 2009
I think all commentors have to just go down to Sabah and find out incognito what poeple think of Dr. Jeffrey Kitingan. Lest said the better as it would really dissapoint Dr. Jeffrey’s supporters and promoters. As for Ahmad Thamrin, that is an obvious blunder by DSAI. PKR is fast losing its appeal to Sabahan not because Dr. Jeffrey or Ansari or any current Liaison leadership was not appointed as the Head of the Liaison nor is it loosing its appeal because Ahmad Thamrin had been appointed, IT IS LOOSING ITS APPEAL as its promise to bring change brought nothing at all! Why can’t DSAI just get it, take in new and fresh untainted people! Make them leaders but of course check their background, whether they fit be leaders or just Starbucks politicians! You have very little time DSAI as Yong Teck Lee and Bernard Dompok have seen the opportunity gap that you left for the opposition in Sabah. SAPP and UPKebangsaanO will only play with the non-muslims and team up with the remnants of USNO vis a vis UMNO Sabah and that PKR will go to oblivion. Reformat the PKR Sabah now cause you still might make it DSAI…..
PH Chin
October 27, 2009
Truly it will be the end days of PKR in Sabah if Datuk Seri Anwar’s ‘ketuanan rakyat’ is just an empty clarion call.
I pray that one day most political parties in Sabah and Sarawak will unite together to fight for their interests, which have been neglected for years.
francis ngu
October 28, 2009
The direction and outcome of the Sabah “crisis”, is expected to have strong repercussions well beyond Sabah borders.
For one, a critical issue like this tests the very fundamentals of the struggle of the national KeAdilan, for consistency on both sides of the South China Sea.
Since the federal contest between BN and Pakatan may be critically decided by the electoral allegiance of Sabah and Sarawak, either side will have to convincingly demonstrate that it is best able to meet the just aspirations of the people of the 2 states.
The national leadership of KeAdilan is now keenly watched on both sides of the South China Sea for its wisdom to make some crucial moves which may well decide not just the electoral outcomes in Sabah, but that of the struggle for national reform.
I support KETUANAN RAKYAT SABAH !
Party member since 1999, Kuching.
neutrality
October 29, 2009
even if i strongly dislike anuar, i agree to his decision to put a muslim instead of jeffrey. to you people who call muslims bigots and racists, please remember it is you who oppress the muslims. if you deny it, take a look at majority of vacancy postings in the internet and also the daily express. these requirements never fail to appear :-
“applicants must be able to converse in b.m., english and mandarin”
“must be able to speak chinese”
when you say the government is granting citizenships to illegal muslim immigrants, what about illegal non-muslim immigrants who bring along with them gangsterism, prostitution and other bad behaviour ?
mosques are grand ? there are more church & temples compared to mosques. and these buildings are twice or sometimes triple the size of mosques.
how about that ? go and look at the museum, see who is bumiputera and who is not.
neutrality
Look in the Holy Qur’an and thell me which verse justifies your ‘who is bumiputra and who is not’ talk
Parli-Man
October 29, 2009
Dear Haris,
Since the supposed ‘meeting’ between AI and Najib, AI seems to be appearing quiet and also going on a self destruct mode . Any connections ?
orang sabah
October 29, 2009
Apabila meneliti sedikit beberapa artikel , komen tentang perlantikan baru kepimpinan pkr, ramai yang mengatakan anwar ibrahim begini dan begitu… tetapi kurang yang menilai pemimpin yang dipilih atau tidak terpilih begini dan begitu. Tidak ramai yang membuat penilaian secara matang… balik-balik agama dan bangsa dipertikaikan… kata ingin bersatu, betullah kata orang bijak pandai…. bila dapat, muka manis macam madu. bila tidak dapat masam mencuka….celupar mulutnya…
Hanya orang gila jawatan yang menyalak sana-sini.
dan lagi kata orang, sabah contoh kepada perpaduan terbaik… tapi bila ada yang tidak mereka sukai… terus mengatakan itu ini begini begitu….
nampak sangat orang sabah ni berlagak baik didepan, rupanya hati ada tompokan hitam….
Kata toleransi kaum tinggi disini, tapi …….. sindri tanya diri sindri la…
yat
October 29, 2009
vote BN je lah, how to lead the country if even ur god damn house u can’t manage?
if 2-3 yrs is crucial for both BN and PR, I as voters vote for PR for change (but not expecting this type of change), now slightly sided with BN, but will have to see about that in this 2-3 yrs political environment
Anwar? the best choice among the worse!!! sad…
BN = douchebag, PR = turd, which one is ur choice?
Srikandi
October 30, 2009
“applicants must be able to converse in b.m., english and mandarin”
“must be able to speak chinese”
Any muslim can always learn to speak mandarin or chinese. Moreover, It is becoming an international trade languange as well. So what is the problem with that? People are just not looking at the rationale behind those things. China has for years opened up its trade finally, so China is a power to reckon with. That is why chinese language so important nowadays!
I am a muslim too and I find no problem with accepting Jeffrey as a leader. Please do not narrow your perspective to racism matters.
hamzah
November 13, 2009
bro – thank you for crystalizing my thought 🙂
To Ketuanan Rakyat!