Signatures to the petition to His Majesty to intervene in the matter of further appointments of judges to the Court of Appeal and the Federal Court, as at 2.08pm, stands at 5,411. If you have not as yet signed the petition, you may access the same HERE.
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In November, 2006, I launched my website, The Truth Of The Matter.
It contains a paper entitled ‘The curse of God on those who lie’.
That paper was my attempt to narrate the truth about the Article 11 forums and thereby expose the lies by several people who, to serve their own agenda, sought to portray the Article 11coalition as being an anti-Islam agenda and / or to further the civil society effort earlier to establish the Interfaith Commission (IFC).
I also sought to present what I thought was the motivation of these liars.
I have, in that website, accused both Salahudin Ayub and Zulkifli Nordin of falsehood.
Of Salahudin, I accused him of falsely claiming that Article 11 forums were being used as a platform to establish the IFC.
Of Zulkifli Nordin, I had accused him of giving false testimony in claiming that Article 11, through its forums, was urging that children should have no religion until they reach the age of 18 after which they should have the right to choose their own religion.
Given the role that these two men played in the protest on Saturday leading to the abrupt closure of the Bar Council forum, I repeat again that Zulkifli Nordin and Salahuddin Ayub are lying, deceiving and manipulative politicians.
I will justify these strong condemnations in the next post.
For now, allow me to quote excerpts from the concluding chapter in that paper entitled ‘Why the lies?’, It might help to shed some light on the motivations of some of the key players who instigated the protest on Saturday.
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…I had alluded earlier to the difficulty faced by MCCBCHS in attempting to raise grievances of a religious nature with the Islamic religious authorities. These grievances invariably involved a complaint of some individual or some religious organisation being adversely impacted by the subtle ongoing ‘Islamisation’. Conversion of minor non-Muslims to Islam and detention by Islamic religious authorities of apostates from Islam were some of the more common problems.
I have been told by those within the MCCBCHS leadership that at first instance, it was near impossible to get an appointment with the highest authorities within the Islamic religious authorities to discuss such grievances.
Sometimes, though, appointments would be fixed on a Friday at 11.45 in the morning. Before problems could be discussed, officers from the side of the Islamic religious authorities would indicate that it was time for Friday prayers so that nothing really got discussed.
If a real meeting was finally secured, the ‘sensitive issue’, ‘involves Muslims only’ and ‘anti-Islam’ arguments were invariably thrown at MCCBCHS making the prospect of addressing religious problems non-existent. If the issue was apostasy, MCCBCHS would be told that this was a serious crime in Islam and would have to be dealt with by Muslims according to Syariah law. No entry signs would be put up in respect of all such issues.
As long as the Islamic religious authorities had to deal with MCCBCHS or any other non-Muslim organisation only, they were invariably able to get away with the ‘sensitive issue’, ‘involves Muslims only’ and ‘anti-Islam’ arguments. The Islamic religious authorities and the likes of ACCIN, BADAI, PAS and Teras could count on this continuing as long as non-Muslims generally regarded the ‘Islamisation’ process as involving the Muslims only, staying away from any discussion on the same save and except when some non-Muslim was impacted by that process, in which event efforts would be made by the likes of MCCBCHS through the ‘diplomatic channels’ to find a solution on a ‘case by case’ basis.
As for the Muslims, rarely was there any attempt to question where this ‘Islamisation’ process was leading to.
…this began to change. Muslims began to question and challenge this ‘Islamisation’ process.
Perhaps the earliest efforts were begun by Sisters in Islam…
…How many Muslims who make up the silent majority favour constitutionalism?
How many Muslims who make up the silent majority share concerns but remain silent about the loss, for Muslims, of the democratic space afforded them in Islam and recognised constitutionally, in the wake of the ‘Islamisation’ process unfolding in this country?
Do ACCIN and their like truly represent the majority of Muslims in this country on every conceivable issue, as they claim?
What might encourage or embolden Muslims who make up the silent majority to enter the public fray and raise their concerns?
In my view, the more Muslims are seen and heard questioning the ‘Islamisation’ process that ACCIN, Teras and their likes are pushing, the more Muslims who make up the silent majority will be encouraged, emboldened and empowered to speak up…
…ACCIN claims they represent the majority of Muslims in this country. The last thing they want is to have this claim tested. The last thing they want is to have more and more Muslims raising questions about the ‘Islamisation’ process, thereby also encouraging the non-Muslims to do likewise…
…And to neutralise the Muslim factor in this emerging civil society movement, key Muslim players were demonised as ‘deviant’, ‘pseudo-Muslim’, ‘secular Muslim’, ‘hyper-liberal Muslim’ ‘apostate lovers’.
…Why the lies? Anyone sincerely concerned with where the ‘Islamisation’ process is taking our country and wants to check the erosion of civil rights as a direct consequence of that process must fully understand this question.
BADAI, PAS, Teras and ACCIN and their cohorts are a long way from their hope of establishing their model of an Islamic state. They are a long way from winning the psychological battle over the non-Muslims and the Muslims who are distrustful of their ‘Islamisation’.
They have lost the ‘blank cheque’ they once had in the implementation of their ‘Islamisation’ process and they do not relish the prospect of having more and more Muslims and non-Muslims scrutinising their plans.
BADAI, PAS, Teras, ACCIN and their cohorts lied to create the spectre of Islam being under siege to create a diversion so that the focus of the silent majority of Muslims might not turn to how un-Islamic their ‘Islamisation process really was. I will deal with the un-Islamicness of the ongoing ‘Islamisation process in detail in the Second Paper.
BADAI, PAS, Teras, ACCIN and their cohorts lied to create the spectre of this nation being on the brink of a civil war so that the non-Muslims might be bullied into returning to their previous silent suffering of the erosion of rights.
BADAI, PAS, Teras, ACCIN and their cohorts lied to divide and break the emerging civil society that does not care for their envisioned way of life.
Time will tell if they have succeeded.
MelaysiaScrewedUp
August 13, 2008
Haris,
This coming 31th is our 51th Merdeka. I am sad we
all still not unite togather and talk peacefully. What i seen in this incident “RACISM” ….. it is become very
clear non-malay have no future in this bolehland indeed.
If Malay doesn’t want non-malay live in Malaysia. Give
us non-malay a plan to move out peacefully .. There is
no need to fight.
MelaysiaScrewedUp,
I am grateful that most others do no feel as you do.
Look, this country is yours only if you’re prepared to stand your ground and fight for what you believe your forefathers worked for to leave you with.
No-one else can help you if you won’t help yourself first.
I like chopin
August 13, 2008
Dear Brother Haris
Yes,you are right.This country belonged to everyone of us no matter what these madmen say or do.I am born here.I grew up here.This is the only place I called home.And this is the only country I loved.Therefore,I am not going anywhere but stay put!
These bigots can shout,scream or yell any racial slurs until their throats sore but I am a still a daughter of the soil and nothing can change this fact.
Thank you very much Haris,for instilling this pride of being anak bangsa Malaysia in me!
I like chopin,
Proud of you, sis
Umran
August 13, 2008
I was wondering why there was this violent confusion about the object of the Bar Council’s forum, particularly as ACCIN I had recently had a discussion involving the government recently on a similar theme.
It seems you’ve answered that question: it’s down to liars.
The similarities to the aborted Article 11 forum in Penang are eerie, as one friend present at both said “same rent-a-mob”.
What is different, and I hope it is not my mind playing tricks on me, is that people generally seem more emboldened to speak out against the premature end to the Bar Council forum than they were with the Article 11 forum.
It is encouraging that today you have the likes of Mehrun Siraj and Hanipa Maidin speaking out against the protesters.
Perhaps we are making some progress after all?
su
August 13, 2008
I remember reading your piece on “The truth of the matter”. Had some trouble reading, what with the black page and white words bouncing right out at me. And there were some problems with empty picture frames overlapping the words too.
But back to the issue of the forum and Article 11. I believe there was an article on Malaysian Insider today where a PAS leader said he was for intellectual dialogues. He also said that he believes that the forum on Saturday was in fact a well-meaning one, and singled out the Article 11 forums held previously as forums that the Muslim community “rightfully protested against”.
I think Islam-as-I-say-tion is a good way to put what’s going on in Malaysia currently, because it seems that more and more religious people are coming out and telling us what we should and should not do.
The notion of “If you discuss about Islam, means you don’t respect Islam” is too much for me to stomach.
They lament at our inability to understand the religion, and yet do not allow us the space to learn and understand. And the best way to learn ANYTHING, is always by active participation.
BTW, the link to the article in MI is HERE.
Malik Imtiaz Sarwar
August 13, 2008
I agree with Umran though it should be noted that anipah still insists on a hidden agenda behind the Article 11 roadshow.
Imtiaz
cruzeiro
August 13, 2008
Haris,
It is a sad fact that people like RPK, MIS and you are among the minority of Muslims who actually make an attempt to question the “siege mentality” that is today promoted by half-baked “godmen”.
The “godmen” make many a Muslim feel that it’s the new “Islamic cool” to be screaming themselves hoarse and hurling obscenities in the name of God – and in “defense of religion”!
Although I disagree with the first commenter, I understand quite well the despair that many a “kafir non-malay” feels, despite all their attempts at communicating with “leaders of the pack” and their sheep ….
I’ve heard many a “kafir” say, “I’ll take 3 million and go happily, if they want my citizenship so bad”.
People are so sick of the subtle persecutions on all fronts, and most “Muslim Leaders/ politicians” generally don’t give the “kafirs” much to hold on to, so as to earn the respect that they demand on a silver platter.
With the ever increasing number of Muslim Leaders who thrive on creating publicity & conflict worldwide, and the appeal of such bravado/conflict among the “Muslim electorate”,
Reason, Morality and Ethics don’t seem to have any value among these people ….
I’m glad that you’re glad, Haris – that not all “kafirs” think as the first commenter. However, the lack of initiative on part of the Muslim leaders to resolve conflict (and relish it, rather), I’m inclined to believe that you won’t be happy for long unless you guys start going on the offensive.
It will be interesting to see how many would stand along with you courageously.
Would it be far-fetched to imagine there there could be persecution of the righteous Muslims, should this happen?
You tell me …
Parli-Man
August 13, 2008
Dear Haris,
It’s brains vs brawl,…right vs wrong …good vs evil.
The majority vs the minority (silent vs vocal ie)
TJ
August 13, 2008
Dear Haris,
Thanks for posting the excerpt. You spoke so eloquently. Thanks for your response to MalaysiaScrewedUp.
I realise that this will be the land where I will die on and am reminded that this is the land where my parents are born in and will eventually go back to.
Therefore, no one, absolutely no one, no religious fanatic or bigot, no useless scheming political leader is going to drive me away unless I allow them to!
And I will fight tooth and nail, within the confines of the law, to make this country a better place for us all.
But in the realm of religious matters, moderate Muslims like you, RPK, Malik, Zainah, Azmi, Karim (oh so few of you) MUST, absolutely must, lead the way. And I will be behind you guys.
I cannot imagine any other alternative.
God speed to us all.
Thanks again Haris.
Rakyat Malaysia Cina
August 13, 2008
in the bible they are known as adam and eve
in the quran they are known as adam dan mawa
in the bible he is jesus
in the quran he is nabi isa
what is the relation between christianity and islam ?
why are some of our politicians named after isa (jesus)
eg Former MB mohd isa , current perlis MB Mat Isa.
can someone please clarify.
i need to know.
Sanglu
August 29, 2008
Saya Anak Bangsa Malaysia
I borned in Malaysia .
I live in Malaysia
I go to school in Malaysia
Now I work in Malaysia .
After I pass away from this Land – Malaysia
I will be burried in Malaysia soil .
Saya Anak Bangsa Malaysia
RAJESWARAN
August 29, 2008
THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY.OUR MALAY MUSLIM FRIENDS ARE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE,INFACT WE CAN SAY THERE ARE THE MOST BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE(beautiful in their mind)IN THE WORLD.THERE IS NO PEOPLE IN THE WORLD THAN THE MALAYS WHO ARE SO KIND HEARTED.MALAYS ARE THE EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE CREATED BY THE GOD.THE DONT GET PROVOKED SO EASYLY EVEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THEIR RELIGION.EVEN THEY GET PROVOKED WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THEIR RELIGION IN YOUR CONVERSATION,THERE WILL TRY TO DIVERT THEIR ATTENTION TO WHAT YOU SAY AND TRY TO MAKE YOU PLEASE.FOR THEM,TO MAKE A GUEST OR A NON MUSLIM UPSET IS A LAST THING.IF U DONT BELIEVE,U GO TO A MALAY KAMPUNG IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WITH YOUR FAMILY SEEKING HELP.THERE ARE REALY VERY BEAUTIFUL(AGAI IN THEIR MIND)PEOPLE.THERE IS NO OTHER RACE SO BEAUTIFUL INTHE WORLD THAN THE MALAYS.I AM AN INDIAN AND I FEEL SO SO GRATE FULL AND GIFTED TO LIVE IN THIS COUNTRY WITH THIS BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE.ONLY THE POLITICIANS ESPECIALLY THOSE FROM UMNO ALWAYS TRY TO PITCH THE MALAYS AGAINST THE NONMALAYS FOR THEIR OWN POLITICAL AGENDA TO PERPERTUATE ITS FEUDLISTIC RULE ON THE MALAY MASSES.
Man Fretmann
September 1, 2008
Blessed is the day when Malay politicians in Malaysia doesn’t have to begin their speech with a few words of Arabic. (Not until the year 2057, I hope!)