‘I’ve done this for God and I took my oath in the house of God, that I was humiliated and sodomised by Anwar Ibrahim and I do not wish to lie to the world as he has done’ – statement by Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan after swearing on the Holy Qur’an at the Masjid Wilayah at Jalan Duta yesterday, as reported by Malaysiakini.
Er, Saiful, you did lie to the whole world yesterday.
Saiful was asked by a reporter to explain how the timing was so close to nomination date for the Permatang Pauh by-election.
Saiful replied : It’s all a coincidence. We don’t know that Anwar is going to contest…
Yet, on 2nd August, Malaysiakini reported that in a posting in Saiful’s blog on 1st August, ‘Saiful also briefly wished Anwar ‘good luck’ in contesting for the Permatang Pauh by-election’.
This is what Saiful posted in his blog on 1st August : Kepada DSAI, saya mengucapkan selamat bertanding
beycont
August 16, 2008
There’s a saying ‘If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging’, which i don’t believe will happen anytime soon for the people behind this whole fiasco.
suresh
August 16, 2008
Come on la…
For a fellow who has announced to the entire world that he had been raped, what do you expect of him when the entire world turn back and laugh through the same passage he claimed he was penetrated.
Now his words and accusation become questionable. Out of so much desperation he had to do something. That’s ok but coming out to swear upon the holy book is something else. What a pity ya? In this country even holy book could be exploited.
Oh is it because GOD ALMIGHTY IS ALL MERCIFUL? So it’s so easy to face him to ask for one apology to make up or could it be because after getting his reward he could go straight to Mecca to perform his duty, at the same time clear his sin?
shar101
August 16, 2008
Hahahaha! Totally and utterly unbelievable.
“The NET is written with indelible ink”.
Considering EC’s debacle with the indie ink during GE12, this is like poetic justice and dejavu ingredients getting embellished into a tossed up salad.
Next thing you know, as with the recent trend of ‘missing persons’, blog postings will be disappear too.
Quickly now, screen captures will catch the creep.
*Hmmm.. I think it’s about time I change my tagline at OBE*
Klaw
August 16, 2008
Haris, the same exact thing I picked out and posted in my blog.
At this moment, only the blinded will not see the obvious coincidence.
Dan
August 16, 2008
I m beginning to understand y this guy’s grades r so lousy, so dumb, keep tripping over his own words..ike a certain guy:P
Mahmood
August 16, 2008
Saiful: I feel that the time is right for me to do my duty as a Muslim and Malaysian by doing what is right.”
Me: I ponder, He said he felt today was the right time to do his duty as a Muslim after 2 months by doing what is right? So, what was right thing to do? Swear on the Quran was the right thing to do? I do agree. But then, would it be taken to mean that the earlier meeting with Najib, Dr Mohamed and negotiating with a police officer and ultimately making a police report was in itself never the right thing? If he wants to do his duty he should in the first place had sworn by the Quran and thereon leave it to Allah to punish Anwar. But he is so passionate to want so much publicity and gaining compassion. By his own words, “it is between him and anwar and Allah”; if that is so, then why he wants so much publicity to proof that his arse was on the line of fire? I am puzzled and perplexed!
Saiful: “He swore in the name of Allah and in accordance to the teachings of Islam and as advised by religious scholars and teachers that I was sodomised by Anwar Ibrahim.”
Me: There seems to be a catch – did he say that he was advised by religious scholars and teachers that he was sodomized by Anwar? He was advised to swear that he was sodomized? Or he was advised that he need to swear? And he said it was done in accordance with the teaching of Islam? Tell me in which Surah gave such teachings on swearing? I have not found a phrase in the Quran pertaining to swearing as an victim; the victim was suppose to get the necessary witnesses as espoused; that’s the rule of syariah.
Saiful: “I’ve taken this oath to prove that my allegations are completely true. Allah is the only place where I can complain to.”
Me: If Allah is the ONLY place to complain, then why did he go everywhere, including to Najib to complain. Najib is not Allah! And he don’t have to take an oath to prove that his allegation is completely true. If the sodomy is true, Allah surely knows; the Quran said Allah knows everything; so you don’t need to prove to Allah that you did not lie. If you believe in Allah, you must also believed that Allah is all knowing and Allah is omnipotent and omnipresent.
Saiful: “I’ve done this for God … and I do not wish to lie to the world as he [Anwar] has done.”
Me: Ehm!!! You did this for God? Oh my God! You can’t be doing this for God; you are doing this for yourself and to convinced us human beings that you did not lie; you don’t do this swearing for God and God do not need you to do this for Him.
Saiful: “I’ve not been hiding but I was quietly gathering enough courage to answer all the allegations against me, especially by Anwar Ibrahim. It needs mental and spiritual strength as taking an oath is not something trivial or easy. The consequences can be very dire in the eyes of God. Nevertheless, Allah has given me the strength to take the oath today.”
Me: Why do he need mental and spiritual courage to tell God? If you believed that God is all knowing, it must mean that He already knows whether you tell Him or not. Of course the consequences of falsely swearing to God is dire in the eyes of God. But if the sodomy was a factual act committed, he never need to fear about telling this truth to God because he already knows that God knows of what had happened to his arse. I don’t need strength to tell God because I know that God is omnipotent and omnipresent irrespective whether I tell Him or not.
Saiful: “This is not a political matter, it is a private matter between me and Anwar Ibrahim.”
Me: This certainly is a private matter between 2 person and God alone. Saiful is right on this. But then he chose to go to Najib for advice; Najib was the first to know. After that, he then went to some specific police officer for advice at a hotel room to discuss the sodomy; thereafter, he went to so Dr Mohamed and then to HKL before he went to make a police report. By involving so many parties it was no more a private matter; it has become a public issue.
It must have been a great courage for him to come out now to meet the press after the swearing. The swearing was suppose to be a private matter; but he went to the press to pronounce the swearing for reasons all can imagine. To say that he has “gathered courage” after 2 months while all along he was taunting Anwar and flashing victory signs at the media camera is quite cheap and shows the stupidity of the forces who are behind him. Evil is their thought! Did it take two months for him to gather courage while all along he was blogging about anything he could imagine about his relations with Anwar and PKR? Hogwash!
Taken from Mav’s blog.
Rawa
August 16, 2008
“Er, Saiful, you did lie to the whole world yesterday.”
Yes he lied and he a pathalogical liar with a sooty heart used by sooty hearted evil people. God has an advice for us concerning his ilk.
“And don’t incline to the disbelievers and the hypocrites. Disregard their noxious talk (and annoyances) and put your trust in Allah. Allah is sufficient as Trustee.” (Qu’ran karim: 33: 48)
Rawa
August 16, 2008
“Er, Saiful, you did lie to the whole world yesterday.”
Yes he lied and he is a pathalogical, certified liar with a sooty heart used by sooty hearted evil people. God has an advice for us concerning his ilk.
“And don’t incline to the disbelievers and the hypocrites. Disregard their noxious talk (and annoyances) and put your trust in Allah. Allah is sufficient as Trustee.” (Qu’ran karim: 33: 48)
My2cen
August 16, 2008
Pious people turn to the holy books to look for guidance and wisdom in God’s words away from prying eyes, crooks make themselves look pious by making use of the holy book in full view of an audience….
doggone
August 16, 2008
Hey there Haris. What about him lying about consensual sex in the report, and then flip-flopping back to his original version of non-consensual buggery? There’s so many contradiction in his statements, he’ll be lucky if the judge don’t shove that gavel up his bum for making a mockery out of justice. I’ll be damn if I believe that this pathetic lad is anywhere near religious. Worldly most definitely.
Sharing
August 16, 2008
It’s all a coincidence. We don’t know that Anwar is going to contest…
————————–
Who are “WE” referring to?
So Saiful is not alone!
mwrmmg
August 16, 2008
Correction Sir,
Saiful replied : It’s all a coincidence. We don’t know that Anwar is going to contest… >> when he made the police report on the 28 June.!!!
At least that’s what I heard him say.
The police report was made one month before Anwar announce his contest.
In Saiful’s blog, after wishing Anwar good luck in contesting for PP, he did state to undertake the swearing soon. So it does matter whether it was one day before nomination.
Whether it was two days, one week, before of after nomination, it still does not matter since he did what have said.
So which part again he’s lying?
su
August 16, 2008
Haris, you wrote that Malaysiakini reported this:
—Saiful was asked by a reporter to explain how the timing was so close to nomination date for the Permatang Pauh by-election.
Saiful replied : It’s all a coincidence. We don’t know that Anwar is going to contest…
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The Star though, reported this:
—He was asked why he only came forward to swear one day before the nomination for the Permatang Pauh by-election where Anwar is standing as a candidate for PKR.
Saiful answered he needed time to collect his strength because the swearing was something sacred and the consequences severe.
“It has nothing to with politics. It is between Anwar and me,” he said.
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In fact, the answer that he needed time to collect his strength was repeated for several questions.
A case of bad bad typo error, and copy-and-paste?
Or a deliberate attempt to “black out” the inconsistencies in what Saiful had said?
Ronald Sia
August 16, 2008
What to do.
He already say he will be cursed if he lie.
Not only is he lieing.
The charge is consensous and why he say it is not consensous.
That already speaks volumne of everything.
No arguments Mr IGP, Latuk Sapiii, Mr Bodowi, Mr Kai Li and Mr Botak.
Can please tell us why this Pondan say he did not consent and why you charge DSAI of consensual sodomy.
KNN Malaysia Boleh. Eat my shit if i were to believe all this shit leaders in the country.
Birdman
August 16, 2008
In malaysia or elsewhere , there is always a tag of a Price .. How Much is it ?
Fair
August 16, 2008
A 61 year old man forcibly buggered a 23 year old man ?
This is akin to an 80 year old man raping a 40 year old woman.
Will you believe this ?
Hey not me !
Patriotic1994
August 16, 2008
Don’t drag God into this, Saiful.
Luckily the relationship between God and human is per individual basis. Otherwise God will strike the entire world for abusing Him.
I pray God will forgive Saiful if he beg for forgiveness from God.
Swearing on Quran is the “same method, just different God”. This, is the weakness of men.
DalaiLlama
August 16, 2008
Looks like, for him Money took precedence over Koran
putra bertam
August 16, 2008
sekian lama saya tidak membaca akbar tempatan dan pengaakuan yang dibuat oleh saiful juga hanya diketahui melalui rakan-rakan disurau. Apa yang meragukan ialah tarikh pengakuan sumpah dan saiful tidak tahu yang saudara Anwar akan bertanding. Saya mengikuti perkembangan kes melalui internet dan saya dapati apa yang dikatakan oleh saiful agak bertentangan kerana beliau pernah mengucapkan good luck to Anwar for by election dan semalam beliau menafikan pula yang beliau tidak tahu Anwar akan bertanding. Dasar munafik.
Pakcucing
August 16, 2008
I wish to hear This oath ,from mouth of UMNO leaderships, especially from Abdullah Ahmad Badawi and Najib Tun Razak.
“Herewith, by the name of God the Most Beneficent, the Most Merciful I sweared and swears like following:
A’uzubilahiminasyaitanirrajim. Bismillahirrahman nirrahim. Wallahi…Wabillahi…Wata’alahi. I , Abdullah Ahmad Badawi,Perdana Menteri malaysia /saya Najib Razak Timbalan Perdana Menteri malaysia,sweared, I have never involved with Rasuah and Maksiat, If i am telling a lie, for this confession, hence I tell a lie to God and I ready to receive azab, damns and curse than finite God to doom. Wallahualam.”
yh
August 16, 2008
he reaffirmed non-consensual. AG office is charging Anwar for consensual. Doctor’s SD said there is no trace of buggering.
hey, who do you want to believe?
I wouldnt touch Saiful with a ten foot pole. His demeanour tells me there is no buggering.
Guess his uncle would not agree.
Richard Huang
August 16, 2008
Hey guys I think you all are missing the point here. The main issue is whether or not sodomy actually took place be it voluntarily or involuntarily.
Will you guys still back DSAI and give your all to him if indeed he has committed that act (in the moment of his weakness)?
Can you be counted to state your stand now?
As for me I will be totally devastated to learn that after all the denial there is incontrivertd proof that he did it.
My prayer and hope is for DSAI to lead us all into a new era of good governance so please DSAI don’t let me and the rest of the rakyat who are rooting for you…
down.
Barbara J
August 16, 2008
That was exactly what I picked up too. And it’s obviously not a coincidence.
When he said ‘we’ you mean his dad, his lawyer and himself didn’t know that the next day (today) is nomination day? That’s another lie in itself. A 10 minute press conference and it is so fraught with lies!
I hope as these events unfold those fence sitters in PP will open their minds and their hearts and vote DSAI into Parliament.
AuntyG
August 16, 2008
Saifull is not only full of lies, but full of ‘sai’
(shit). He can afford to swear another 100 times, one lie or 100 lies, he is still cursed.
Consensual or not consensual? Sodomised 8 times or just one time? Maybe its his brain which was ‘sodomised’, he cant even remember who sodomised him???
Bigjoe
August 16, 2008
The boy is not just lying, he is an idiot!! Poor sod. He is no different than Razak Baginda who got caught up in Najib ever twisted world and left to hang out to dry…
bombay sapphire
August 16, 2008
This guy will do anything for money!Why do they take to swearing in the mosque? Dont you think its a mockery?
Is it to prove his innocence?
Come on everththing he does has some loose ends to explain.Every move he makes there is always a slip somewhere.Things he does does’nt seem right!
Paul Warren
August 16, 2008
Question is who is buggering Saiful!!?
Must be he is enjoying it.
I suppose there will be a lot more that we will hear from him between now and 26 August.
Why? I wonder!!
bennyloh
August 16, 2008
Bugger said eight times (including abroad)or one time.
Bugger said plastic made love to him or a dick’s digging.
I SAW A PLASTIC BEING SHOVED INTO MY ARSE
simon
August 16, 2008
Harris,
Saiful is a scumbag, the worst I have ever seen.He will sell his soul to the devil for RM. We must counter all he allegations and I feel sorry for his family and relatives. memang tifdak malu.
chickenshit
August 16, 2008
Sometimes you wonder how stupid a person can be. Unless it is consensual sex, I find it very hard to believe that a 60yrs old is able to sodomize a well built 23 yrs old.
fergie
August 16, 2008
Any sane anak bangsa Malaysia will NOT believe this Saiful! Using the Holy Book brings shame on such a pure religion as Islam. The timing itself is suspect. The whole country needs “spring-cleaning”!
better future for all
August 16, 2008
Saiful the sicko full of sick lies, and he has asked to be struck down by God if he lied, and his dad also as many believed he was in on this lie, may have even planned it.
May this be so as he has sweared
Bigjoe
August 16, 2008
Me think there is a systmatic campaign that is pulling out all the stops to hold back Anwar.
A huge victory at Permatang Pauh would be disastrous for BN. Wan Azizah got 30,338 while Firdaus got 16,950 in 308. Any change in these number in favour of Anwar will mean that there is credibility to his claim of PMship even if he is not going to make it Sept 16.
This is a case of if you believe it it will happen for Permatang Pauh. If UMNO/BN members believe he will be PM and vote for him because of it, then Anwar can claim legitimacy with BNers and make it ever more possible….
The World I know
August 16, 2008
Now we are confuse, Anwar was charge with consent to the sexual act but Saiful mentioned that he was sodomized, so what happens to Anwar’s charge now? Should the charge to drop?
matt
August 16, 2008
Spot on and he has to be answerable as well after this lets see how far the pink mary janes will take him. You can run but i doubt you can hide saipool.
Dr Adrian
August 16, 2008
Just wondering how much (millions) Saiful was paid ? He was a Good Actor……any fool can see through this young canny man used by very very powerful people & what a Timing ! Come straight out of a comic book !
Malaysia is losing its soul to the devil !
Don
August 16, 2008
Don says
It does not take a genius to analyse the confession of Saiful – a college dropout – that DSAI had sodomised him.
The script is not well developed, I’m afraid. Or has it totally failed? It conspicuously smells of a conspiracy of the highest nature. No man had believed Saiful all this while and with the timing of this confession, nobody would ever believe this young man anymore. The timing of this confession has made more people believe that this is an obvious plot to tarnish DSAI. EC announced the nomination date for the Permatang Pauh by-election and the very next day DSAI was brought to the court to be charged. What a cop-incident?
The timing of this confession on the eve of the Permatang Pauh by-election nomination day wreaks suspicion. Why not confess before this? Why not make a confession of this nature just after the charge was read out to DSAI in court just recently? Why not go to the mosque long before this date and swear on the Koran? Why choose this specific day? Why say it happened only once when before this he claimed to have followed DSAI a few times overseas? It was also said by him at one time that ‘it’ happened 8 times. If he says it is not consensual this time around, why the charge on DSAI specifically mentioned consensual?
To counter this drama, DSAI should take a solemn oath in the name of Allah, swear on the Quran with some witnesses to settle the whole thing. This can be done immediately. Include in the oath and swearing that the whole confession of Saiful is a plot to tarnish his career as a politician. It is as simple as this and it will definitely settle the score. But let us not make this a precedent, as all those in Sungai Buluh Prison would rush to do the same and the prison will soon empty.
The public is left with too many confused versions now. When there are too many versions to be depicted as truth then all versions must be false. This is hence a lucid game designated to fix DSAI. The explicit confession and expressing the crude act to the public – including children watching the prime news – itself is very unbecoming of a nation describing itself to be Islamic. The government should not have allowed a confession of this nature in the first place, as it has tarnished the image of Islam, the Malays and it has also affected the minds of innocent people watching the news. But the desire to tarnish DSAI by some politicians with vested interested is far more important than the image of Islam and the Malays in Malaysian politics.
The matter is already in the court. Why then have an audience with the public in an explicit manner? The whole idea is none other than to smear DSAI’s name and this is one effectual way to despise him as a saviour of the Malays and Islam. Unfortunately, until today over 90 per cent of Malaysians and almost 100 per cent foreigners cannot accept the fact that the whole episode is not a plot to harm DSAI politically. This aberrant effort by some irresponsible people will not succeed.
Just imagine this: Would any normal human being – if without any vested interested or reward – go to the media and have his face and confession of this nature shown and heard on TV? Even a seasoned prostitute would not do this unless of course if she is paid to do so. Remember that the issue of being sodomised is a very shameful act in the eyes of all people and no person with the right mind would want to tell the whole world explicitly of what will shame him in the eyes of the people. There must indubitably be an ulterior motive to this episode.
This episode also expounds the theory that the whole affair of confession is a cooked-up affair. One remembers that the charge against DSAI in the court of law was ‘consensual’ act of unnatural sex. But, why is this man now saying that he was sodomised without his consent? Why the discrepancy? Is it just because the charge against DSAI was not effective enough to tarnish DSAI’s name? Why is the script now saying that he was the unwilling partner? There is now an obtrusive contradiction. The people cannot accept this anymore.
The whole plot will backfire and DSAI will get more support from the people.
malayamuda
August 16, 2008
he should go to Permatang Pauh and show his arse to all the voters and let the voters decide
longman
August 16, 2008
so, only them (the BN) can use mosque as political platform… shame on all BNs and this uniten failure…
rojak
August 16, 2008
How can you swear on a holy book? You use a holy book for wisdom and guidance not to convince people that you are innocent..I’m more disgusted than convinced, you idiot!
Mengchai
August 16, 2008
You will note that all his answers to the press conference were prepaid well in advance by ‘SOMEBODY’ as he tend to miss some of the words.
sing lau
August 16, 2008
A LIAR who dares to swear by the book of his religion is most certainly a very perverse and wicked and evil man. If the god of his religion be real, let him show himself to be true in striking down this brazen LIAR – since he himself has invoked the curse of his god upon himself and his posterity.
TSM
August 16, 2008
Saiful replied : It’s all a coincidence. (We) don’t know that Anwar is going to contest…
Who is WE!!!!!!!!!!!
pongsakling
August 16, 2008
Why need to involve God?
patek1472
August 16, 2008
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terebei@lastik
August 16, 2008
he looks desperate! he needed money pretty bad. wedding is around the corner. this script looks more less the same with Azizan before.it will be SialFool…you can fool some people some time but not all the people all the time
barry
August 16, 2008
Tells me clearly in no uncertain terms that the monkeys in UMNO don’t give a flying f..k about the Quran and Islam – they will lie through their teeth just to save their ass, with Bodohwi and Najis leading the way. All they care about is their almighty big god $$$$ and power. And yet, funny enough, the fanatics in PAS don’t mind cosying up these bastards, all in the name of ‘ketuanan melayu dan ketuanan islam’.
cinta Malaysia
August 16, 2008
Saiful has the idiom to lie when he just sworn on the Holy Qur’an.He just keep on smearing the Holy Qur’an!!
Every Malaysian knows that Anwar is contesting today except him!
He is either a very stupid bigot or he is blinded by the Malaysian Ringgit floating in front of him.
Wonder who he gets the money to pay for his press conference at a luxurious hotel?
Hell is waiting for you Saiful!!
cinta Malaysia
August 16, 2008
Saiful has the idiom to lie when he just sworn on the Holy Qur’an.He just keep on smearing the Holy Qur’an!!
Every Malaysian knows that Anwar is contesting today except him!
He is either a very stupid bigot or he is blinded by the Malaysian Ringgit floating in front of him.
Wonder where he gets the money to pay for his press conference at a luxurious hotel?
Hell is waiting for you Saiful!!
ANARCHY
August 16, 2008
Sai-Fool, Full of SAI!
daryl
August 16, 2008
He can swear all he wants in the mosque and with Quran. But, we all know if he is right or wrong it is between him and his God. All I know is that the evidences are against him and he can only win with the PDRM and DPM covering his behind.
ct
August 16, 2008
only umno FOOLS would believe him!. What to do, all his advisors are all liars. so he had to follow the leader. If not susah la nak cari makan. Its so sickening that they have to drag god into this!
wandererAUS
August 16, 2008
This shameless liar Sinful, will win an oscar hands down. What his superb performance of false innocence!!
This act of desperation is written all over his face. I do not believe it has any real value for what it is worth. Muslim criminals swore on the Quran everyday in the courts and this liar is no different. He has made a mockery of this Holy Book and shamed the muslim community.
tengkolok
August 16, 2008
I can only applaud Saifool for his bravery. But I wonder if there is anything in the Quran or Hadith Sahih which says that by swearing on the Quran, then the swearer are righteous? And that action can be taken on the accused without any proof?
Show us the proof that you have been sodomised. Where are the hospital reports? Even your police report could not be produced after more than 1 month.
What’s your price?
MAY THE CURSE OF ALLAH BEFALL UPON YOU.
I like chopin
August 16, 2008
Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned nor hell a fury like a lover scorned!
How about this,Haris,for a good laugh!!!
Have a happy time in PP and an enjoyable weekend too,my friend!
yong
August 16, 2008
The fella claims he was first time been f with no consensual? Ha…. funny but he has been sodomized for 8 times! Can u imagine it!!!!
ram
August 16, 2008
Hi Sam,
I hope you have taken care of your rhinitis for good.
I have a question for you Bro.
Why can’t Anwar just swear on the Quran like Saiful and
and deny that it ever happened.I’m not a Muslim but quite a few of my Malay friends are not very convinced of Anwar’s innonence.
Personally I find it difficult to believe that Anwar sodomised this guy.
Are there certain issues that Muslims have to address first before swearing on the Quran?
Could you please enlighten me?Cheers.
ram,
The Holy Qur’an is a guide for the living.
Why should Anwar join in this stupidity?
Samuel Goh Kim Eng
August 16, 2008
The biggest lie on earth:
“I tell no lies!”
A totally honest person is yet to be unearthed
Herein mankind’s greatest earthly sin lies
(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 160808
http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
Sat. 16th Aug. 2008.
Craig
August 16, 2008
Of course Saiful is a liar! He lied to Dr Osman, saying he was buggered by plastic object. He lied to HKL, saying he had stomach problems. He lied to police, saying he was sodomized by Anwar. He lied to his fiancee, saying he was straight. He lied about everything. His Emak Angkat Mumtaz probably arranged at least a million bucks from Rosmah for Saiful and, if so, he already sold Allah swt for that sum… God help us all!
simon
August 16, 2008
Harris,
Saiful-What an asshole using religion to convince people of his innocence?.
tamade
August 16, 2008
Haris, this is the exact duplicate of the evil power bokers in UltaManNo in Bolehland.
I don’t know how the People, especially the Malays feel, but I am pretty sure that the DIGNITY of the race and the country have gone into the drain. Thanks to the GREAT job by the Mamak SF lawyer and the Murderer of Mongolian woman especially.
UltaManNo is Great. Real Great.
Fear God
August 16, 2008
mwrmmg Says:
August 16, 2008 at 4:18 am
Correction Sir,
Saiful replied : It’s all a coincidence. We don’t know that Anwar is going to contest… >> when he made the police report on the 28 June.!!!
At least that’s what I heard him say.
The police report was made one month before Anwar announce his contest.
In Saiful’s blog, after wishing Anwar good luck in contesting for PP, he did state to undertake the swearing soon. So it does matter whether it was one day before nomination.
Whether it was two days, one week, before of after nomination, it still does not matter since he did what have said.
So which part again he’s lying?
You are mabuk. U read carefully. When Anwar made the official announcement to contest (very very recent). When saiful wished Anwar Good Luck (very very recent).
Dewnasing
August 16, 2008
I did’nt know this Saiful also dare to cheat Allah. I also wonder if people of his-like also bluff Allah too and make his Holy Koran in vain. By virtue of this action, he has taken His Name in vain…wonder, wonder, wonder!!
artchan
August 16, 2008
saifool is really made a fool..and i do not feel sorry for him.
Fortified City
August 16, 2008
Why a 23 year old boy chose a 61 year old man?
Something ‘fishy’ here?
If the 61 year old man forced it on him,where is the 23 year old’s strength gone? Was he a ‘down syndrome’ kid not able to defend himself?
Judges over DSAI’s case please take note.
Judging by the Permatang Pauh Nomination Day, Malaysians want CHANGE.They want a change of government.
They clearly reject this government that tells lies to the people.They cannot be trusted. Whatever they say is lies.
telur dua
August 16, 2008
Devoid of morality, lying through his teeth and sullying his religion. He learned well. Of course, we all know who his teachers are.
shadowmode
August 16, 2008
ahahahaahahah the kid is finished. he just dug his own hole!
donplaypuks
August 16, 2008
Now he should explain:
1. Why all these overseas trips were mentioned if ‘rape’ occurred only once on 26th June? This clearly implied 7-8 other acts occurred and /or to character assasinate by implication.
2. Why he met DPM and SAC II before 26th June? What was the need to consult the police if it was only to inquire about the DPM’s health and scholarship? Remember he now he claims there were no other previous ‘incidents’. Why the U-turn?
3. Why the charge is under 377B where rape and non- consensual act is not included?
4. How did a 61 year man with bad back over-power him?
5. Why Uncle Pet will not reveal is real name?
6. What is his response to DSAI’s 5 alibi?
http://donplaypuks.blogspot.com
kolaar
August 16, 2008
Sadly, gone are the days that one would shudder at the thought of oath taking using the Holy Book.
Now this is a new beginning for the nation and Malaysians.
Surely God’s curse would fall upon the ‘one’ who lied using the Holy Scripture and all those behind it- those who engineered, masterminded, funded and those who deliberately suppressed the truth.
It would be worse if God punishes us with natural calamities. Then, the good, the bad and the ugly would all suffer.
AdamC
August 16, 2008
mwrmmg
The part he is lying – Saiful replied : It’s all a coincidence. We don’t know that Anwar is going to contest…
teohjitkhiam
August 16, 2008
Liar! Liar! Panties On Fire!
Err, sorry, Undies On Fire…
Seng
August 16, 2008
Dear Haris,
Personally, I have no doubt that Saiful lied. But I’m sure you know that to prove that he lied about the “coincidence” bit is extremely hard in the court of law. It would take more than just Aug 1 blog date. For example, the Defence may say that they made the appointment with the Masjid Wilayah Persekutuan prior to Aug 1 to take oath on Aug 15. Then, it potentially changes the picture.
Notwitstanding the difficulty to prove in court that it is not a coincidence, one obvious area that he has lied is “Masjid = forced”, vs “AG court charge = consensual”.
Both cannot be right at the same time.
I understand that a true Muslim should never keep quiet when he knows that a crime (e.g. a lie) has been committed. Keeping quiet then makes him an accomplice in the “crime”. If so, then, he is an accomplice to the “AG court charge = consensual” crime.
If it was truly forced, what he should have done as a true Muslim is to come forward and tell the world that the AG should not proceed with the court charge, as it would be fitnah at the very least.
He didn’t.
Saiful kept quiet all these while.
In my book, and I’m sure in the books of many, he lied.
Seng
August 16, 2008
Another irony. In this MT article, it is reported that “Saiful: Tindakan saya bukan bertujuan politik! ”
http://malaysia-today.net/2008/content/view/11458/84/
Yet, I find it ironical that in the oath taken, he needs to identify his I/C Card Number?
“Bismillahirrahman nirrahim. Pada hari ini, 15 Ogos 2008, saya Mohd Saiful Bukhari Bin Azlan, No Kad Pengenalan 850706-01-5687 dengan ini sesungguhnya dengan nama Allah Yang Maha Pemurah Lagi Maha Penyayang berikrar dan bersumpah seperti berikut….”
I know many religious people – when they prayed or made an oath to God either every day, or especially during critical times – that they do not mention their I/C Number!
To be honest, this is the first time I’ve heard where the prayee identifies himself to God with his I/C number!
Is this a normal practice?
I realize I’m rather ignorant in matters of Islam, and shall try to keep an open mind, but it is incredibly difficult based on what I read so far.
shar101
August 16, 2008
The NST reported something similar to what Mwrmmg mentioned above i.e. SB didn’t know AI was contesting when the police report was made on 28th June 08.
And it’s common knowledge that SB had the intention to declare his innocence on the Quran. Hence, the ambiguity of his purpose in doing it yesterday prior to nomination day. The gravity of this act must have weighed heavily on his shoulders but it still does not diminish the suspicion of it being politically tainted.
MStar had this:
Q. Bagaimana jika Anwar juga mahu bersumpah?
A. Tidak mengapa. Saya telah lakukan tanggungjawab. Jika
beliau mahu lakukan, terpulang kepada beliau kerana ia tidak boleh tentukan sama ada salah atau tidak. Ia di-mahkamah nanti.
The Perlis Mufti was quoted:
Ketika ditanya bagaimana pendirian beliau kini telah Saiful bermubahalah, Dr Asri berkata “Adapun saya tidak pernah menyatakan secara putus siapa yang benar, siapa yang salah.”
Duh! What gives???
Therefore, while we wait for the court trial, are we now expected to witness divine retribution on the guilty party as well? SB refused to answer certain questions e.g. how many times was he ‘forcefully’ sodomised by AI, preferring to opt for it to be mentioned in court instead. You’d think that after going through the swearing ceremony, SB would have been more open with disclosures since he has God on his side. But that may appear ‘subjudice’ to the case, wouldn’t it? If so, can we also consider the swearing ceremony a ‘subjudice’ act as well? Or will the trial judge have the additional burden to consider it (the swearing ceremony) as material evidence? I don’t think God would care to turn up as a witness.
Meanwhile, SB have repeatedly said that the sodomy acts were NOT consensual on his part while the charge on AI is the opposite. Hmmm.. AI couldn’t take NO as answer?
Cari Tempat
August 16, 2008
Saiful has lied and have insulted Islam and the Quran in the house of Allah. Is this a death penalty? If it is, please let me know the venue and time. I would like to be there to witness it.
sky
August 16, 2008
Another stupid tools using by BN…
crispee
August 16, 2008
c’mon la wei…
you guys kept harping on the ‘i didn’t know he gonna contest’ issue.
but u guys still cannot accept the fact THAT HE SWORN ON THE QURAN THAT HE WAS SODOMOSED BY DSAI.
honestly, as a muslim, whenever i see someone who sworn like that, i tend to believe him. swearing in islam is A BIG THING.
NOBODY IN A RIGHT MIND WOULD LIE IN THAT MAGNITUDE.
would any muslim here, after making a lie, dared to SWEAR on the quran that he in fact was telling the truth? NO.
All this non relevant issues like salah bagi date, why put IC number, why cannot answer questions but instead say will tell it to court are just a non issue.
THE MAIN ISSUE here is HE DID SWEAR THAT DSAI SODOMISED HIM. And DSAI can’t even asnwer to that!
even DSAI also when asked what is his alibi, he said he will answer in court.
U GUYS ARE GRASPING AT STRAWS.
Instead of ridiculing this Saiful, you guys should focus on the essence of this act – THE SWEARING on the quran. WHICH IS A SERIOUS THING.
For anyone who believe in ALLAH SWT, why would he invoke His anger by condemning him to eternity if he was lying.
The fact that he did it in public was just to clear his name against the mighty ‘court of public opinion’ which was created by DSAI n RPK in smearing his name.
b4 I am hurled with accusations that I am a family member or crony of certain ppl (because you guys have no other excuse to accuse me), I am just an ordinary observer.
I only see this as what it is. Be honest to yourselves.
thanks
Aghast
August 16, 2008
Swearing upon the Quran and ALLAH’s Name was wrong and NEVER EVER mentioned in the QURAN.
He is also a INCOMPETENT LIAR who was coached what to say.
I don’t trust what he has said.
Joshua
August 16, 2008
a plan well plotted and timed but full of lies!
chong
August 16, 2008
saiful, why wasn’t you a UiTM student…
btw, any lawyer here? as he (so called victim and witness) disagreed with the charges (consensus sex) upon anwar, does the case still have any ground to proceed???
is it a complete mess?
Yaakob the Finance Minister
August 16, 2008
Aiya Saddam Hussien also swear 5 times a day at the biggest mosques in Iraq but it is well known that he murdered thousands of iraqis during his rule. All of us can swear but what da heck!! when there’s no prove. For saiful the sodomy master, i think better you go and do something good like helping the poor and what u earn from UMNO you give it to the poor better….who cares about a shit if you swear or not!! There are so many poor bumiputras around Malaysia, do you really think that the poor malays got the farking time to attend your swearing ceremony huh??? Anyway, there’s so many murderers in Malaysia who swear they din do it but still commmited a crime…remember everyone is innocent until proven guilty whether they swaer or not!!! anyway, may I ask you saiful, are you a sissy or pondan or gay?? how come you let anwar sodomy ur ass without fighting back???
tamade
August 16, 2008
Haris, it’s good to hear that Ust Hadi Awang has regained his composure and senses as a respectable religious guru and political leader.
His speech in the Pas assembly recently has shown clearly that he is indeed unhappy regarding the incident whereby he is ridiculed publicly by the UltaManNo and the mole in his own party.
His comments on the act of that young man SHameFul is also coherent with his principles of the holy Islam.
I am not a Muslim and I do not fancy extremists and fanatics in any circumstances, but due respect must be given to him.
Yes, TRUE Muslims speak from their conscience and deep from their heart. Indeed, Ust Hadi does not turn away from his friends who need his help.
The true religious ones will never betray and play out their comrades, unlike those idiotic, brainless, corrupt and evil power brokers in UltaManNo.
This man, Ustz.Hadi Awang still deserves the respect from the Rakyat in Bolehland. PAS still has hope.
Paul Warren
August 16, 2008
Seng 2.12pm has diligently noticed the mention of I/C number. Wonder how God is going to reference that? I would imagine in an oath or swearing that one undertakes upon God, just a mere “I” would suffice.
For Saiful to have mentioned his full name together with his I/C number, I get this funny feeling the God to whom he swore was someone diminished in capacity unlike the good Lord most of us pray to, even the Muslims.
So really, when he does face the maker he can always tell him, “see, it was not to you that I swore. It was to a myth. Why else I mention my full name and I/C number for.”
Is it not obvious, therefore, the swearing was more for public consumption rather than for the “God” of all Muslims?
Devan
August 16, 2008
Saiful…u must be very RICH by now. How much did Rosmah give to Mumtaz Jaafar to pass to you ??? $ 3 million?
BALA got $3 million too…..Ezam got $ 2 million.
OK…..
Wish theres someone who will offer me millions for me to admitted I was sodomised by say…..Karpal, Hamid Albar,or that Semi Valu….all is MONEY!!!!
Maybe KJ is the culprit!!!!
Kenny Gan
August 16, 2008
Saiful lied about the 8 times he was sodomized and now changed to only 1 time.
He said he had to gather his strength to make the oath? Why if he’s swearing the truth? Was he gathering his strength to swear an untruth? Doesn’t make sense.
The charge said consensual sodomy. Don’t you think a man who has been forcibly sodomized (raped) will vehemently object to the charge? Why is Saiful keeping quiet?
Obviously Saiful is being used by corrupt politicians who use him as a linchpin for their evil plans. When they are finished with him, they’ll discard him like a used condom.
Michael Sun
August 16, 2008
Hi Haris
The word “Sai” in Hokkien means shit.
This chap is just an incorrigible serial liar. Even the blind can see that this is a political move to discredit Anwar’s election campaign.
His late father had the wisdom to give him the name “Saiful” – full of shit.
I rest my case.
Dave
August 16, 2008
He has just insulted the Holy Quran.
rajraman 666
August 16, 2008
he,he,he – the devil laughing because this boy keep forgetting like me.
candleman – Do you know anyone can loan free a Helicopter for anilnetto,because his wish to see from the sky the crowds.(PKR supporters more than warlords)
rajraman.As usual past the message from someone to someone.Looks like i am messenger boy already.
rajraman 666
August 16, 2008
As usual i forget,
Need to add,
Hello Saiful – kenapa hang guna Quran – hang Ingat Quran itu bolih buktikan hang cakap benar?
rajraman.Tak tau tentang ugama tapi tau sikit2 buat baik dapat balasan baik.(itupun kena tunggu sampai kiamat baru tahu)
mauryaII
August 16, 2008
The clowns in power have buggered the people and plundered all these years. Now they have even got a pathetic liar to lie using the AlQura’n. How low can they stoop just to be in power and try their best to deny their nemesis his rightful place in parliament.
Nothing, even the holy book is NOT SACRED anymore.
Saiful as a master liar is par excellence. Only his mentors in BN would believe all the shit he claims was done to his arse.
The doctor from Pusrawi is subjected to intimidation because he refused to follow the dictates of people in power. Now the poor decent man is sacked and without a job.
Malaysian opera/sandiwara aka UMNO wayang is matchless not only in the Asean region but also throughout the world. MALAYSIA BOLEH.
elli
August 16, 2008
please la .. you lied with youe eyes open widely …
could see clearly (during your PC) that you lied .. you are so stupid ..or may be not .. how much you manage to get to make you come out to swear on the quran? dont make a fool out of all other muslims … the quran is not for this purpose .. any criminals will start swearing on the quran , bible or any holy places that they didnt commit crimes. by the way why you are allow to do this when or if this a court case???
be prepare, god is great .. have you get yourself a place to your 6ft under yet?? guess you could do it fast …
sosong
August 16, 2008
A small size 61 year old man with back pain, force that to a big size, 23 year old man?? Moreover, the 61 year old is NOT an army general or gangster “taiko” or a police “anjing besar”. I don’t know how to answer these questions by my 16 years old nephew?
Tomtom
August 16, 2008
He said it is not consensual but the police charge / summon said it is consensual.
So will the swearing supercede the earlier affidavit in police report?
It is not easy to lie.
Atan Abdullah
August 16, 2008
A person will keep on lying because he has to tell lie to cover the first lie.
I would like to to remind the poor sodomised victim to stop lying before he makes into the book of record for making the most number of lies.
Who in the world would believed that it was a co-incident he went to swear just a day before nomination day. With all the scripts written and ready to be implemented at the right time for the sodomise wayang.I think there is a think tank financed by some rich political party or individual that stands to gain if DSAI falls or did not make it to the parliament.
All shots at DSAI are planned at the right timing.These people are very frustrated now because DSAI tahan mati and keep moving towards these shooters. DSAI is moving closer and the by-election is already making them shitting bricks.
I am sure many are planning or already send the ill- gotten gains to overseas in the event DSAI take-over the government.
Rastaman.JB.
August 16, 2008
Dear Haris,
Just came back from Middle Rocks with a bagful of rocks and pebbles.
Me thinks the bagful is enough to stone this incorrigible liar to death !!!!
BR
Rastaman.JB.
kluangman
August 16, 2008
Alahai Haris, Saiful memanglah melakukan banyak kesilapan tanpa disedarinya kerana dia bukan bercita cita tinggi, tidak licik dan tidak strategis seperti Anwar, idola awak.
Budah mentah itu memanglah diperkudakan, diperalatkan oleh semua pihak yang ‘kaki putar’ seperti Anwar dan Najib, saya ulangi, Anwar (idola awak) dan Najib (bukan pula idola saya).
Saiful juga mengaku ‘tidak rela’ diliwat sedangkan Anwar didakwa melakukan ‘suka sama suka’. Itupun janganlah pula pula diperbandingkan sangat kerana ISU SEBENAR IALAH ‘MASUK KE TIDAK’…
Apapun syabas kepada Saiful, walaupun masih mentah, tidak bercita cita menjadi PM tetapi sudah ada ‘keberanian’ melakukan sesuatu yang hebat sedangkan Anwar sendiri ‘menikus’ bila disaran bersumpah..
Kepada Izzah dan Wan Azizah, carilah jalan lurus walaupun pahit..
artic turban
August 16, 2008
HARRIS please read this article, it was in the star on friday,15/8.
read the part highlighted and compare this to SINFOOL-SHITFUL’S lies, the logic being if a std 6 child can fight OFF an adult, why couldn’t SINFULL, even if he looks pondannish, 6 footer full of muscle, fight back DSAI. highlight this, and sinful’S claim of sodomee becomes rubbish. below is the article. from the star msm.
Friday August 15, 2008
Teachers in molest claims
By NELSON BENJAMIN
LABIS: Two primary school teachers have been arrested for allegedly molesting and performing indecent acts on their pupils.
The teachers, aged 35 and 27, from two different schools in Labis and Kluang respectively, were arrested after pupils lodged police reports.
Investigations showed that the students were molested in different places, including a school’s counselling room, an art class and even in a park.
In the latest report in Labis last week, a Year 6 pupil who failed to attend her extra classes was asked to see the discipline teacher in the counselling room.
Sources said that instead of reprimanding her, the 35-year-old teacher started showing her pornographic pictures on his laptop and molested her.
The family suspected something amiss when the girl refused to go to school the next day. The family then lodged a police report.
In the other case in Kluang, several Year 6 pupils lodged separate reports after being molested by their 27-year-old teacher, allegedly since March this year.
In one case, the teacher had offered a 12-year-old pupil a ride in his car to attend Friday prayers but took him to a secluded area instead and molested him and tried to sodomise him.
The boy managed to fight him off and demanded to be sent home.
Johor CID chief Senior Asst Comm (II) Amer Awal appealed to those with information to contact the police hotline at 07-2212 9999.
shiver
August 16, 2008
can someone tell me where is azizan abu bakar?
Farida
August 16, 2008
Sinful Saiful.
rajraman 666
August 16, 2008
Live report from from the corrupt buster anillnetto.
visit his website http://www.annilnetto.com
candleman.The message past to him,now he asking helicopter for arial view.
Wardlords said the crowd around 10,000.
Anil said his friend estimate 70,000.
PKR said 100,000.
rajraman.report live from my candleman blog.
shutting down – need to have my own life back -what else valium lah with zanax.
J K
August 16, 2008
Well done Saiful! You have up the ante – swearing, oops, I mean, lying in a masjid!
beeghim
August 16, 2008
Anyone will know definitely saiful is full of shit in his peanut brain.Normally people seek wisdom and guidance from God but not swearing to prove he is holy and innocent.He seems to be happy and enjoying the limelight.He should undergo a lie detector test but without that one cannot be fooled by all his shit lies.It is very obvious he is lying for some gain.Otherwise why he seem to be happy about it.
Naksam
August 17, 2008
And when Allah S.W.T. melaanatinya, Saiful’s response will be “it is a coincidence”.
PenangSupport
August 17, 2008
I do it for UMNO and my NATION, will sacrifice myself and soul. I do it all to PROTECT OUR GREAT GOVERNMENT from falling.
I will take this to court to seek err… REVENGE? REDRESS? or ….
Even AFTER GOT the POLICE and AG involved, got this to COURT pending the result, I will then make a HUGE PUBLICITY to the World media, SWEAR BY QURAN!!!
TV will blast this all over the bews for the next few days while the electioneering is going ON!
errr I do it for the NATION, opps I still shit everyday! Hooray!
Kerajaan Rakyat
August 17, 2008
Only one right word for Saiful Bukhari = BASTARD!!
http://www.kerajaanrakyat.com/
Victor Chan
August 17, 2008
liar,after swear still a liar,nothing change
sjchange
August 17, 2008
Stupid government with stupid conspiracy!
Reniv
August 17, 2008
THERE IS NO SCIENCE IN SWEARING, ANYONE WITH JUST A LITTLE BITTY INTELLIGENCE WITH OPT FOR MEDICAL REPORT EACH & EVERYTIME.
I don't believe in Saiful
August 17, 2008
Hi Crispee,
I accept your argument that swearing on the Holy Quran in the name of Allah is a very grave matter, but your underlying assumption is Saiful is a god fearing man with a clear conscience.
I will be quite explicit with my stand on this issue. I do not trust Saiful, I do not believe he has any integrity or morality or religious bearing. I believe he does not have a conscience. Therefore I conclude that he is capable of lieing, even in the name of Allah.
He contradicts all evidence so far. Was it consensual sex or was it rape? is he lying about being forcefully sodomised by Anwar? How truthful is Saiful really, leaving the Holy Quran and Allah out of the equation?
Lies cannot be exonerated by religion, truth cannot be justified by an act of superficial piousness.
C
August 17, 2008
All these UMNO people are devils . They do not worship and pray to our same God. They pray for the devils as the devils are in their souls. Hence they DON’T even take the Holy Quran and Allah into heart so whatever swearing and unlawful evil sins are not a matter to them.
I just don’t understand how can these muslims can perform prayers everyday and go to the mosque.
STOP emphasizing on the Ketuanan Melayu issue. As far as I known , no one is stripping the Ketuanan Melayu. Our Sultans and those royalties are the actual Ketuanan Melayu and it’s more than enough as their places can’t be replaced by anyone. So please stop insulting the Sultans and accusing others on threatening the Ketuanan Melayu. Further of these accusions are just taking our Sultans as a puppet and not respecting them.
The quotas and all these Ketuanan Melayu are just pawns played by UMNO to selfishly safeguard their own powers,status and money.
Avtaran
August 17, 2008
We have better things to do then dissect what was said by that Saiful character. Why give him so much space! Let him crawl into a hole…
Instead, let’s have Anwar’s track record and see how good is it, and see how voters can be convinced in the by-election. And to convince me that he is good.
mauryaII
August 17, 2008
Haris,
I hear the useless mamak has jumped into the bandwagon along all the others in asking DSAI to be like the sinful liar to swear on the AlQura’n.
What difference would it make to all these corrupt, godless men whose goal in life is to hold on to power and their ill-gotten wealth other than to create another episode in the sandiwara that has been going on for some time in the country?
GOD the omnipotent and the omnipresent does not need liars and for that matter anybody to swear on his holy book. HE knows.
All those who make a mockery of the holy book for their vested interest and political survival are sure to face the wrath of the GOD Almighty on judgement day.
The corrupted police and impotent judiciary won’t be there to protect and help them out of their misery.
Snowflake
August 17, 2008
Assallamualaikum
This disgusting man that was aired Swearing in the Name of Allah is nothing but a “crazy man” and has been partnered by “carzy people” around him eversince the last 2 months.
Wassallam
makenon
August 17, 2008
this is not the first time a holy Book is used for personal gains,and it will not be the last.
Puteris,, didn`t your ex-boss teaches you anything? yes they are no gentleman, but should they slapped your right cheek,don`t you have another one to give them.
Such noble act could wins heart and votes instead of crying wolf.ah pink rookies.. don`t even know how to `rayu undi ` properly. Aiya sure lose one .
choon han
August 17, 2008
saiful’s god is RM.
saiful’s controller is najis & the c4 boys
saiful’s quran is the lost book of sodom.
saiful’s aunt is uncle pet..
oops!
melloyz
August 17, 2008
(Replying to one of the comment above).The swearing do exist in Quran but there no place hand to Quran. The situation in Quran for husband and wife but from my interpretation can be apply to a rape cases etc. We need to get necessary witness if we want to accuse some else and we not the victim. Logically if we think abt it, if someone get raped or sodomized and there are 4 witness to that event, dont you think, this accusing thingy wont happen as that 4 witness either will help the victim or join together to rape/sodomize her or him. Although Saiful has swearing by Allah, for me it does not prove Anwar is quilty as people can lie but I dont think we should personally judge Anwar/Saiful. We not there :). Allah know everything and if Saiful lie he will “invokes the wrath of Allah” as mention by Allah himself. For world judgement, let the legal take it flow.
And for Permatang Pauh voter, they should vote according what changes they want and should not use this thing as judgement either to vote Anwar or not. Allah is the mighty judge so don’t worry. He can do His job. Below the snippet from Quran regarding swearing.
24:6. And for those who launch a charge against their spouses, and have (in support) no evidence but their own,- their solitary evidence (can be received) if they bear witness four times (with an oath) by Allah that they are solemnly telling the truth;
24:7. And the fifth (oath) (should be) that they solemnly invoke the curse of Allah on themselves if they tell a lie.
24:8. But it would avert the punishment from the wife, if she bears witness four times (with an oath) By Allah, that (her husband) is telling a lie;
24:9. And the fifth (oath) should be that she solemnly invokes the wrath of Allah on herself if (her accuser) is telling the truth.
Quote from above.
” Me: There seems to be a catch – did he say that he was advised by religious scholars and teachers that he was sodomized by Anwar? He was advised to swear that he was sodomized? Or he was advised that he need to swear? And he said it was done in accordance with the teaching of Islam? Tell me in which Surah gave such teachings on swearing? I have not found a phrase in the Quran pertaining to swearing as an victim; the victim was suppose to get the necessary witnesses as espoused; that’s the rule of syariah.”
Sodomised Nation
August 18, 2008
Can somebody please check whether Say-fruit was really sodomised? How could that sorry puckered a*hole of yours be forced open? At errr… gun-point?
Saifooled, if you can take it like a man from the rear end then stand up and face it like man. Stop sodomising the rest of us rakyat.
sing lau
August 18, 2008
Jesus said:
34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God’s throne:
35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.
37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.
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What has this stupid and meaningless religious ritual of swearing to do with telling the truth?
“But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.”
Saiful is so obviously a fool and a scumbag full of lies. And he even dared to swear by the holy book of his god, Thus NOT ONLY taking the name of his god in vain,
BUT ALSO bearing false witness against another Muslim!
Horror of horror… Saiful has committed such an abominable evil.
May his god deal justly with such a devious and perverse man.
The God of heaven declared:
“Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.”
“Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.”
sing, penang
NS
August 18, 2008
What a pity Mr. Saiful. I still can’t believe a young guy can betray him and his wife to declare himself been sodomized by Anwar. It might be truth or it might not. Only the GOD know.
Now, he is using Quran as an excuse to prove his is the victim. What a desperate move. How much did Abdullah n Najib pay him. His whole career & entire life are ruined by himself. He will be mocked by every Malaysian. NO one will regard him as one of Malaysian.
He is such shameful figure for Malaysia. Totally, stupid guy.
the whisperer
August 18, 2008
what a dickhead. and a stupid one too.
foodforthoughts
August 18, 2008
Please tell me how to go about this because I too would like to do the same to declare that I am not indebted to any banks and therefore no loans to pay.
puzzled
August 18, 2008
I am more puzzled when I talk to people who actually believe this Sai. I actually get scolded and said that they have proof etc when talking about this issue and they have friends who have seen the pictures bla bla ofcourse without proof.
When I highlight that a 61yr old man can not only overpower a 23 yr old and also rape him doesn’t make sense, they will avoid the topic and attack AI again. These are the 10% of people who refuse to open their eyes and believe everything the media is telling them and their old folks.
I have a hard time and both my hands full and all my effort play wresting with my 15 year old brother in law and I am 29. How the heck does AI hold a 23yr old down, open his pants spread the victims legs etc etc… and the victim can come out smiling as well? beats me… and he should go for WWE. Those guys are no match for our 61 year old, can even get a gold medal in the olympics if it is true.
peng
August 18, 2008
A Muslim friend pointed out that Saiful held the Quran with his left hand during the swearing. Can you guys see the significance here…. He’s not only lying but also desecrating the holy book?
In conclusion, my neutral Muslim friend pooh-pooh the swearing act.
peng,
I’m left-handed. God made me that way.
I hold the Qur’an with my left hand.
rocky
August 18, 2008
harris,
post from LKS blog that is interesting to read:
# Jeffrey Says:
Today at 10: 17.44 (5 hours ago)
Those who seek to incriminate Anwar based on his accuser’s swearing on Quran and Anwar’s not having done so are now in a bind facing a very knotty and intractable problem when the charge against Anwar under section 377B is that of consensual sodomy.
From perspectives of Religion : Sodomy is a capital offence in Islam. If the official charge against Anwar is that of consensual sodomy, it implies that the accuser/complainant is a willing participant in the unnatural act contrary to Islamic tenets. This further logically infers that the act of swearing on the Quran by an accuser/complainant – already in breach of Islamic tenets – cannot be relied upon by faithfuls as testimony of the truth of what occurred. Take the example of a robber or thief whose act of robbery and theft is un-Islamic. Can a robber and thief be given credence if he were to swear his innocence on the holy book that he was forced to rob or steal?
From perspectives of Secular Penal Code : If the accuser/complainant made the first police report based on non-consensual sodomy which is buttressed further by his taking an oath to testify to the act had been forced upon him, a charge based otherwise on “consensual” sodomy must fail by reason of it not corresponding with and contradictory to what the accuser/complainant himself alleges.
Reason : if the claims of the accuser of anal rape were not reflected in the criminal charge – the criminal charge having focused on consensual anal sex – it implies (1) that prosecution does not have evidence supporting the claims of the accuser/complainant of anal rape; (2) in ordinary instances this would be enough to stop prosecution but if prosecution were nevertheless persisted based on a different set of events introduced (ie consensual anal sex) entirely different from that claimed by the accuser (ie non consensual anal sex), such a prosecution will, in third parties’ minds, immediately smack of unjust persecution and incrimination (3) all other claims of prosecuting being justified on grounds of doing justice to the accuser would look hollow and farce because one cannot possibly do justice to someone alleging that he was involuntarily sodomised by a charge that implicates the acuser/complainant as a wiling consensual participant!
Based on the above, it is clear that whether one proceeds on the religious angle or angle of prosecution under secular law, both approaches do not seem to lend much credibility to efforts to incriminate the accused.
Going forward, if an attempt here is further made to inciminate the accused based on the “double insurance” of either the religious aproach or the secular legal approach, whichever the more successful (though both aproaches have already been shown inadequate above), then this persistence to incriminate at all costs will reflect bias and ill will on the part of the authorities, which will, as an unintended consequence, serve the greater political interest of the one accused instead, perceived by public as a victim of political persecution in the Permatang Puah by election, especially against the back drop of BN’s leaders’ public defence of the accuser/complainant in the media…..
peng
August 18, 2008
Haris,
Thanks for your comments. I see your point here.
You are a fair person.
I am left-handed too. Let me share with you an experience. I was invited to a kenduri at a kampung. Everyone ate using hand and so did I with my left hand. I got strange stares and later someone gave me a spoon to eat with. I did not understand why the fuss… until now when my friend pointed out the swearing thing…
peng,
I too eat with my left hand.
Aged 9. Went back to Taiping for a kenduri. Eating with left hand. No offer of fork and spoon. Plate just whisked away.
I kid you not.
su
August 18, 2008
In response to being left-handed.
My sister is left-handed, but eats using her right hand. All thanks to my grandfather who used to hit her hand with a ruler if caught using her left hand while eating.
Either that or no dinner.
So she learnt to use her right hand. Funny how these small things gain such importance.
bobo
August 19, 2008
Will Najib Tun Razak swear in the name of God that he was not involved in blasting Altantuya? hmmm…
Thinker
August 19, 2008
LMAO…Spot on Haris!
We don’t have to worry about this idiot, while playing with religion, he will have his payback. What goes around comes around, remember?
karma
August 19, 2008
saiful’s celebrated posterior is not going to bring any economic gains to the country. i suggest UMNO go ahead and have his posterior insured at RM1billion. shameful nuts!!! when the economy is going to the drains, there are people out there talking about one’s posterior to gain votes! malaysians are not stupid to buy all this. DSAI, you are on the right track. you talk sense. you talk about the dire state of our economy. you talk about uplifting our standard of living. this is the kind of leader all malaysians want. let UMNO talk about the celebrated posterior of saiful and let the world judge what kind of politicians UMNO is made up of. their days are numbered, though. shameful….shameful….shameful.