At 5.10pm on 16th July, 2009, Malaysiakini first reported on the tragic death of Teoh Beng Hock.
Later that same night, a vigil was held outside the MACC HQ in Shah Alam attended by about 500 people, angered and horrified by Teoh’s death, the circumstances surrounding the same, and the pathetic attempt on the part of the MACC to distance itself from any culpability for this young man’s tragic end.
By the morning of the next day, it bacame clear that the general public had not bought into the insensitive suggestion by a crass and callous minister that Teoh had leapt to his death.
The public wanted answers and relentlessly and loudly made this known.
What the public did not then know was that shortly after Teoh’s death was first reported by Malaysiakini, another, just slightly older than Teoh but differently circumstanced, died in police custoody.
R. Gunasegaran, aged 31, worked as a shop assistant in a toddy shop in Sentul.
On the evening of 16th July, Gunasegaran, along with several others, was arrested by an anti-dadah team.
The arrestees were all taken to the Sentul police station.
Two days later, on Saturday the 18th of July, the family of Gunasegaran was informed by the police that he was dead.
Cause of death?
According to the police, drug-related causes.
The burial permit, issued by the hospital authorities, narrates the same.
Drug-related causes, the burial permit declares, besides confirming that Gunasegaran was dead on arrival.
The family was due to remove the body on Monday, 2oth July, for cremation, but inclement weather made this impossible.
Divine intervention, it would seem, given the information that came to the family of Gunasegaran soon after.
Eye-witnesses to Guna’s arrest and detention at the police station have given a version of events starkly at variance with the official account.
Guna, they say, was assaulted by the police at the time of arrest.
At the police station, again, Guna was assaulted.
This time, though, with such severity that Guna fell and lost consciousness.
Guna, they say, never regained consciousness.
The family have since requested for a copy of the post-mortem report.
A post-mortem must already have been performed given the response to the family’s request for a copy of that report.
The family have been told to first arrange for the body to be removed from the mortuary, and then make application for the report, which will then be delivered in about two months.
You can well appreciate the dilemma of the family.
Why is gunasegaran dead?
Drug-related causes?
Or police bashing?
At a press conference today, the sister of the deceased, Madam Gowri demanded for a copy of the post-mortem report, if in fact such a procedure has been carried out, and that an inquest into Gunasegaran’s death be carried out.
A group of concerned citizens, comprising lawyers and activists, have come together to assist the family to get at the truth of Gunasegaran’s death and, if foul play is established, to seek justice for the family and the deceased.
This evening, solicitors wrote to the police on behalf of the family requesting a copy of the report, on the presumption that a post-mortem has been carried out.
It is not expected that the report will be forthcoming, even if there is one.
The family, meanwhile, are anxious to remove the body for cremation.
Teoh Beng Hock’s inquest is due to start tomorrow.
Notwithstanding all the reservations many feel about the utility of the impending inquest in Teoh’s case, it nonetheless must give some hope that his loved ones may yet discover the truth of why Teoh is now dead.
What of the family of Gunasegaran?
Tomorrow, or in the days to come, a decision may have to be made to remove Gunasegaran’s body from the mortuary at the Kuala Lumpur Hospital to be take to another hospital facility for post-mortem.
We are given to understand that this procedure would cost around RM3,000.00
The family of Gunasegaran are not people of means.
Will you help to bear the cost of the post-mortem?
If you care to, send me an e-mail at thepeoplesparliament@gmail.com for details
DannyArcher
July 29, 2009
can we bank into your bank account? or into their bank account?
DannyArcher,
Please send me an e-mail at thepeoplesparliament@gmail.com
yay
July 29, 2009
aiyoo samy. where are you?
too busy with land grabbing in Bandar Utama?
eagle-eye
July 29, 2009
yay, you are looking at this through a racist eye.
Why samy, why not LKS or LGE or Anwar??
mahathir
July 30, 2009
samy busy for $_$.. where got time for death body? corrup king..
Siebel
July 29, 2009
Haris Ibrahim,
Thank you for bringing this case up to our attention. I have sent you an email requesting for Gunasekaran’s family’s bank account. I will support this cause.
I feel sad and helpless each time I hear about police custodial death. When will such torture end?
Please help these poor souls…please do something. The police is victimising the less advantaged. In fact, the police is no better….they are form 3 dropouts and mentally-challenged. Yes, they use brute force to assault their victims.
Justice 4 Altantuya
July 29, 2009
Its teribly alarming the no of deaths in police custody-Malaysia must be the Death in Police Custody Capital of the World.
Terima Kasih Haris for highlighting this-You are a TRUE HUMANITARIAN and a TOWERING MALAYSIANS.
Thank you Brother,if there were more Malaysians like you the world will be a better place !
StevenO
July 29, 2009
Hi Haris,
Is it possible for you to receive money through PayPal??
Steven0,
Please send an e-mail to thepeoplesparliament@gmail.com
Kam
July 29, 2009
Dear Haris,
Thanks for highlighting this. of course, i care as much for Guna as for Teoh. Why the newspaper is not carrying this news??? I don’t see it on Malaysiakini either…
gowrikumar
July 29, 2009
Please let me know the account number to bank in money.
Thank you GOD BLESS YOU.
I am crying at the time of writing this mail. Our country is not safe for us with licensed gangsters. How our future generations to live in this lawless country. This is 1Malaysia.
Gowri,
Please send an e-mail to thepeoplesparliament@gmail.com
Musa Susah
July 29, 2009
Come on people who fight for justice, Gunasekaran, like Teoh, is also a human being and deserve as much noise regarding Teoh’s death. Poondeh Vellu, where are you? DAP! you think Guna deserve death and not Teoh?
Paul Warren
July 29, 2009
HINDRAF would do better by educating the Indians, it so seems to care for more than anyone else, that its a one way ticket when an Indian gets picked up by the Malaysian police. So, just don’t give them cause to pick you up!!
eagle-eye
July 29, 2009
Paul Warren, how about better educating the police?
It is easy to pick on the weak.
Paul Warren
July 30, 2009
Hello, they are supposed to be licensed UMNO Gangsters aren’t they? they are educated already alright!! And that is what they are doing, as they have been educated!!
Shams Fatani
July 29, 2009
Hi
Any idea about police mob justice in the streets and in detention centre? I don’t think they do mob justice to extract informations per se. Do police express their ego, anger and frustration by torture and mob justice upon suspected but convicted criminals. A crime is a crime & no body is above the law. Upon any laymen ‘ganas’ is a crime but to the authorities do they have seperate primitive and uncivilised set of laws and attitude and unoffensive about that?
Drug related causes? In SOP, police forensic & CPC, whose is to give verdict for drug-death related causes? Do they have professional medical-legal verdict?
Shams Fatani
July 29, 2009
Hi, sorrry —‘unconvicted’ criminals. Regards
iridium
July 30, 2009
such an idiot with stupid remarks. buzz off shams fatani!!!
polis polis
July 29, 2009
Guna’s death shall be in vain. All custodian deaths under polis, MACC, national service and any authorities shall be in vain. All mati katak as long as the government allows our legalised bullies to continue to act as they wish.
Guna is only a shop assistant and suspect in drug related offense. Why bash the poor man? Isn’t a person innocent until proven guilty? Even if Guna is guilty, polis cannot bash him. Let the court sentence him and throw him into jail.
Perhaps the polis has forgotten how fragile life is.
chiew ka 4...!
July 29, 2009
Haris bro…,
Two months to get a post mortem report…???
They think we stupid or what…?????????
K T Lee
July 29, 2009
Wld like to contribute. Please tell me how.
KT,
Please send an e-mail to thepeoplesparliament@gmail.com
awang bahaya
July 29, 2009
The government institution has deteriorated, “lose public confident” is understatement now, and they are advancing toward “endangering public”. If the trend continues without any major modification, there will be a stage where the authority can killed freely and legally.
Someone from Utusan said the institutions are ‘malay’ institution, don’t know what’s wrong with the editor?. But RPK said those institutions are branches to BN other then the component parties. I agree with RPK, as their behaviors say so.
Many say change the IGP, change the chief commissioner of MACC, change the AG, change Rosmah and others. But then even you change that person to a donkey the result still the same. The only solution is change government.
Malaysian has a tendency to play ‘god’, just give them a little authority they can spin that into power of ‘god’, not to say big power (I mean way too huge) give to a person such as PM. The real check and balance for this is by two parties system, where the majority of rakyat is the king! Not individual that plays ‘god’.
murali
July 29, 2009
I will help to bear the cost…i have three growing up boys… and there are other youths who need to be protected.. we need to do something. Which account please?
murali,
Please send an e-mail to thepeoplesparliament@gmail.com
Antony Gasper
July 29, 2009
willing to contribute. Tell me how.
I thought that our PM said that an inquest is necessary as it is part of the law .Or was it the AG
Anthonyi,
Please send an e-mail to thepeoplesparliament@gmail.com
Dan
July 29, 2009
I am so sad… what is happenning? I am sure the root cause of the is from BeEnd… really wanna kick BeEnd’ ass…
Peter
July 29, 2009
This is a very sad incident. It seems that Malaysia is no longer a safe country. I pray that this family will get Justice of Guna’s death.
Dr. No
July 29, 2009
Hindraf, where are you all. Guna, an indian died in custody. What are going to do about it. Go protest to MACC, BN,Najib etc.etc. Right now a malay is helping i.e. Haris Ibrahim. Leave Kg. Buah Pala for a while and settle this problem. You`ll are always fighting for indian cause. Settle this. And also MIC and Velu please announce and pay for the Post Mortem. I`m not an Indian but I`m willing to pay for the whole cost and see that justice is done.
Looks like people who seem to want to fight for Indian cause knows nothing about Guna and his death in custody.
Iam very just angry with deaths in Police Custody. For this ongoing case we must get the truth and put the b…..ds police dog where the belong. Which authority can we trust now and look forward to? B……….s POLICE, MACC etc.
We now have a new breed of GANGSTERS with licence to kill
like 007 James Bond but 007 is fiction but this real life.
Dr. No,
Guna’s death is not a hindraf or MIC or Indian issue.
It is an issue that should concern every Malaysian , regardless of race.
I am anak Bangsa Malaysia, by the way.
temenggong
July 29, 2009
Haris, thanks for taking up the case. Have emailed you.
Paul Warren, which Indian needs to be educated about crime? It is malaysian society that needs to be educated about rights, rule of law and the crime of discrimination.
Christy Loh
July 29, 2009
Aiyooo why so many lives snatched away so suddenly. Teoh Beng Hock and now Guna. What has become of Malaysia please. Life is so cheap and the “poor” are easily oppressed. At the stroke of a pen and a death certificate is issued.
Justice has to prevail for the sake of our children, our children’s children. This is a joint effort for all Malaysians to come forth to seek justice for everyone! Get out from your slumber and move.
The crime rate is also big concern. It is no more safe to walk around your neighbourhood unprotected. My friend was slashed one early morning by some people on two motorbikes. He was heading for his regular morning walks. Through his quick thinking he immediately parted his wallet. Thank God his injuries wasn’t very serious.
Reddy
July 29, 2009
getrid of BN next election.Makkal sakthi.
JJays
July 29, 2009
Yet another dead in Custody.
What’s happening in M’sia? It seem to be, one will walks in to lock up alife, but he need 4 people to carry during out from lock up!
Nowdays, its safe when you are in public place, then police station. Why?
We will never get answer for that “Why” forever!
I am very angry, and can’t think what to write anymore.
casper
July 29, 2009
Thanks the stars you have given thought to Guna’s brutal “murder” at a time when Beng Hock’s inquiry hogs the limelight.
When all hope is lost, it is times like this that M’sians see and realise(I hope) that we are all alone when up against UMNO bin Curi or PDRM bin Pukul Habis – not by choice I guess but private citizens have to step up to the plate to protect our own.
VOTE THEM OUT, as any other alternative would serve public interest better than at present.
Regards all out there.
chris
July 29, 2009
everone sad about beng hock.. Bot do we really know wat happen ? nobody know’s ? So let they do their job so everone know wat really happen to him ! Just wat u all to think for a moment.. do you really think MACC Officer push beng hock ? Come on !!! Wat good for MACC ? U all can do better then this..
Andy
July 29, 2009
I for one is definitely behind this cause and will e-mail for details. With your permission, Mr. Moderator, I would like to send Mr Gobind Singh a request; as this
Dear Mr. Gobind,
These incidents are not getting any lesser and we,the people of Malaysia will have to do something. Since you are in a better position to receive such news as this better than most of us, could you set up a special ‘Blog'(if that’s the right word) where this could be informed to the public. maybe you could set up a public trust fund where the public can donate to assist families such as these to seek justice. The authorities are getting bolder by the second as we keep quiet longer. The safety of all our children and generations are at stake here and we must stand as one in silent and peaceful protest to end this.
I would be the first to offer any service to you voluntary in making this happen and I am sure many others will be behind you.
This may not be a good idea so maybe we could put it on poll to get the publics opinion on the matter. If this may not be suited maybe someone can modify on the idea and come up with something better.
Let’s help ourselves by helping others.
Shakuntala
July 29, 2009
Deaths in custody gradually escalating. Some sort of game for the police?
Every poor man’s death is made short shrift of,an efficient police force? Disgusting, maddening and so very basic….just kick or brutalise a PERSON to death, come to a conclusion about him, and then what do you do?
Inform the family, that he is dead, day’s work done for the Royal Malaysia Police.
….It all seems as easy as ruling a line,the ending of a human life, or is it ethnic cleansing? Looks very much as if we are arriving there.
Bless you Haris, you are so committed and concerned.
najib manaukau
July 29, 2009
Don’t you think the deaths of many innocent people should be referred to the UN ?
kattan
July 29, 2009
Sure! Keep up the great work.
anna brella
July 29, 2009
Haris, a friend has already e-mailed you as we would like to make a joint contribution to the post-mortem cost.
And here’s a suggestion for your consideration at your discretion.
Perhaps you should consider starting a general fund where one could offer to put a ringgit into it everytime one deliberately or inadvertently(?) mentioned such useless/pointless/meaningless and also unhelpful irrelevances such as race/racism or gender or age or religion or etc. etc. whenever discussing issues here that have nothing to do with such irrelevances whatsoever.
In my view, the first step towards wiping out racism is to steadfastly refuse to recognise, acknowledge or pander to it.
“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.
Shams Fatani
July 29, 2009
Hi
Mr. Guna, only a store assistant at the age of 31? … he must have nothing in life, gone with Sentul cop, Mr TBH gone with Mr. Mac Cc & Mr. Tengku Goh gone to Mr.Igpol!!!! All gone to fight for for justice. 2 dead (no, there must be more have gone) This is the rules of law, the law of the jungle, the survival of the fittest. There are only human wrong to be exterminate and no human rights. This is the justification milestone in primitive pristine 1M policing by Mr. Bolehland.
Dr. No
July 29, 2009
how do I donate to Guna`s Post Mortem. Name, account No. etc. etc
Dr. No
July 29, 2009
Anak Bangsa Malaysia
Why is that majority Indians die in custody. That is why I say this an Indian problem. Right now why don`t you donate to Guna`s Post mortem which amount to RM3,000.00. If you are really Anak Malaysia then donate.
Like I said, I am not an Indian but I will help and see Justice is done for Guna and Family. If Justice is done for this case, all malaysian anak or not anak malaysia will have peace of mind and we will see less of these things.
ROCKETMAN
July 29, 2009
I AM STRONGLY AGAINST POLICE SAVAGERY AND BRUTALITY AGAINST HELPLESS DETAINEES…..ONCE AGAIN WE ASK FOR THE REMOVAL OF THE IGP AND REVAMP THE WHOLE FORCE….THE POLICE SEEMS TO BE KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE.THEIR DUTY IS TO PROTECT CITIZENS BUT THEY ARE NOW MURDERING PEOPLE AND MACC IS NO DIFFERENT FROM PDUM(PDRM) POLIS DIUMNO MALAYSIA…..THE FORCE IS BEST RENAMED CELAKA PDRM….
Robin Ling
July 30, 2009
Police Do make mistake as the crowd are uneasy to control and the coorporation between the the civilian and the marine tie need to be strengthen so all diciplinary attitude do comply and all harmony sociaty remain.Every small sector need to have a good realiable leader and every troop member must be dicipline at all time.Anything that offended you please contact me and we can have a cup of tea to solve the conflict and misunderstanding.We do respect your comment.
oettinger
July 30, 2009
haris, i will be sending an email to you. please do provide me with details of the account no. i will play a part in helping this cause. regards
hellboy
July 30, 2009
would those murderers will be remanded for 14 days like the ordinary citizens or
they will be promoted to a higher ranking position in different station to make more killings?
ahoo
July 30, 2009
Thank you for your steadfast stands against injustices. You are one true bright star and pray that more are like you without seeing first the shade of colour then the person. We are afterall, anak bangsa Malaysia. Can’t be called by any other name as we are destined to be born here and to die here too.
Email the link provided and hope that the second post mortem results can clear the air. Nonetheless, let not the will of the people be crushed with the many deaths but know that we need to change this govt if they continue to short changed us in so many areas of our lives.
Dr. No
July 30, 2009
I read today`s star at the Toyota service centre (I stopped buying newspaper long ago) There `s no mention og Guna`s death and neither was it mentioned in the last few days. Maybe strict censorship for reasons best known to BN & Govt.. Anyway, for news on this please go Peoples Parliment or Haris Ibrahim`s bog.
roaring lion
July 30, 2009
The police claim to have detected “elements of incitement and provocation” between the two groups with different agendas and planning to organise marches over the Internal Security Act (ISA) on Saturday. The real elements of incitement is nothing more than the PDUM (exPDRM) gangters…..back by UMNO to ensure that ISA will protect their personal interest….THE PRO ISA GROUP IS ALIGN TO UMNO GROUP SO NOT SURPRISING THAT THE ELEMENT BEHIND THE INCITEMENT IS ALSO UMNO….
Steven O
July 30, 2009
Some arsehole asked what good does it do for MACC to kill Teoh?
It certainly was a disater but the point was not to kill him but to extract false evidence to implicate the Pakatan state government for an eventual power grab!.
People make mistake, we all know that!! The mistake that MACC made was so obvious that only the retarded refuse to acknowledge that and the extremely evil people come to their defence.
Justice 4 Altantuya
August 1, 2009
We all have to STAND TOGETHER and each one of us can play a part by supporting our Pakatan Leaders ,however small…write a comment on internet,post letters to local & foreign press,join an NGO, volunteer service in Pakatan Rakyat,spread the message,join a political party or donate to the victims & good cause for freedom & democracy.
Guna is the latest victim of death in
Malaysian prison.
For Evil to continue Good men & women do Nothing !