Malaysiakini reports that justice Abdul Aziz Abd Rahim upheld Pakatan Rakyat MB Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin’s argument that he is the legitimate menteri besar.
Zambry’s application for a stay of proceedings pending an appeal was rejected by the judge.
justice Abdul Aziz ruled that Sultan Azlan Shah had no power to order Nizar to resign, and that the Sultan ought to have directed a sitting of the assembly be convened with a view to the tabling of a motion of no-confidence against Nizar.
Surely fresh elections are the only way out of this mess?
Najib’s mess?
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ladyRP
May 11, 2009
ladyRP says Praise the Lord….. errr hang on RP….. WHAT NEXT?
Mel & Sham
May 11, 2009
Praise God!
farida
May 11, 2009
Najib’s mass mess.
My2cen
May 11, 2009
What a very, very brave judge. I shall remember his name.
If fresh elections are held, I’ll go back to Ipoh and be a volunteer. Hell, if they need a professional to run, I will also volunteer!!! hehehe… Time to get rid of clerks, postmen, railway gurads etc – no insult to those who are doing their job professionally, but you do need some management background to manage the state!!!
The Watchman
May 11, 2009
Could this be a BN plot of some sort?
Paul Warren
May 11, 2009
Thats the way ..aha..aha..I Like It aha…aha!
Thats the way..aha…aha I Like It….aha aha
do do do do do do do do do….ahhhhhhh
Thats the way aha aha ……
SAJ
May 11, 2009
May good sense prevail and Fresh elections be acceded to. Time to repair the incalculable damage to the institutions of governance.
yapsir
May 11, 2009
YES!The Almighty has answered many of the plead and cried of the anak Perak,anak bangsa Malaysia.
There is still hope for Malaysia,so lets move on for the betterment of tomorrow.
It is victory of the justice.
Finaly we do have Judges who are not affraid of “black hand”.
So other state’anak-anak ,moving to GE13.!
abusyukri
May 11, 2009
er damage control?back to square one..
The 25 M questions is…
since illegal zombie cannot propose to remove house speaker, is siva still the speaker ?
He will never allow vote of no confidence against MN.
jibam
May 11, 2009
jangan suka sangat
mereka akan gunakan isu ini untuk mengatakan mahkamah malaysia adalah adil. memang mereka dah rancang semua ni. lepas ni zambry akan buat undi tak percaya di DUN. Speaker dah jadi orang mereka. so nizar still akan ditendang.
pastu mahkamah yang sama akan sumbat anwar dalam jail bulan julai nanti.
kalau PR marah, mereka akan tunjukkan PR ni hanya suka bila mereka menang di mahkamah tapi kalau kalah akan tuduh BN menguasai mahkamah lah itu lah inilah dan bermacam komen lagi
jangan cepat suka sangat
rocky dan a voice pun dah start spinning
zombiry
May 12, 2009
saya setuju sikit jer,supaya rakyat berwaspada strategi jahat bn selanjutnye..kalo dah zombie pun haram,speaker lg haram jadah but don’t worry coz sivaji still the boss…
vengai
May 12, 2009
kalau YB Nizar MB yang sah maka perlantikan speker kotek MIC tu tak laku.Siva akan tetap speker yang sah.
Barbara J
May 11, 2009
My dad and me have been waiting for this piece of good news!! He says, time to have a cold one! 🙂
frankie
May 11, 2009
That explain why Najib offered an olive oil to PR yesterday. He already knew the decision hence the offer. Whatever the outcomes, Perak need to see a closure on this mess.
Vinod
May 11, 2009
Hope Nizar will use this to dissolve the State Assembly and call for fresh state election….provided the Sultan of Perak gives his consent.
MUMNO
May 11, 2009
Finally, justice is served
Unlucky Zambry but well-deserved
Corruption crumbles into dust
Kick out the illegal MB we must
Until all are one
Malaysians united under one sun
Never will the Rakyat give up its fight
Onwards, through darkness, into the light
BRING BACK THE CANDLELIGHT VIGILS.
khookhoo
May 11, 2009
Power to the people! Love Paul Warren’s song!
cktan
May 11, 2009
so now Nizar still need to get Sultan’s consent to dissolve the assembly right? i think Sultan can order for the assembly to convene and a no-confidence vote can be taken against Nizar and since they have additional 3 BN-friendly votes, it will go back to BN right?
if tat’s case, still not certain yet… sigh~~~
fungus
May 11, 2009
“However, BN could still have the upper hand with regards to the state assembly.
While the court has not recognised Zambry’s appointment as menteri besar, the appointment of new state assembly speaker R Ganesan is still valid.
In view of this, Ganesan could call for an emergency sitting where a motion of no-confidence would be moved against Mohammad Nizar”….M’sia Kini.
Aiyoo….
Nanda
May 12, 2009
When they forcibly removed Sivakumar, what they did was to return back the right for him to vote in the assembly. Previously he can’t because he is the speaker and BN would have won with 28 vs 27 majority but with Sivakumar voting, wouldn’t it be a deadlock of 28 vs 28, all other factors remaining constant?
Nanda
May 12, 2009
In other words, either way would lead to the inevitable.
Put back Sivakumar as the legitimate Speaker, the motion to remove him will not be heard and the frogs and the illigetimate MB would be asked to leave.
Continue with Ganesan, deadlock of 28 vs 28.
Until perhaps another RMXX million ringgit is taken by any of the remaining PR aduns to crossove or any of the BN adun to do likewise.
Or, no one crossing over, deadlock, force the assembly to dissolve and vote again because I can’t see how they would be able to form any unity government after this mess.
A layman’s analysis though. MAybe totally wrong.
arianna
May 11, 2009
Dear Haris,
I’ll wait for the official dissolution of DUN Perak then i’ll celebrate.
Been let down too often. Glad you are ok. Take care.
fireduck
May 11, 2009
Could it be that Nizar wins only because Najib allows it? I remember reading that he has ‘soften’ his stance yesterday regarding the matter, so maybe it’s a signal for the judge to give it to Nizar. Kinda like give one inch to gain a yard Sun Tzu type of strategy perhaps. A possibility, no?
So, while we rejoice at the decision, and are happy for MB Nizar, we must also be wary of background UMNO/BN movements and initiatives. Do not be so readily happy until we let down our guard and to see our hard fought rights snatched away in the midst of the euphoria. Actually, we rakyat are so easily placated …. if only the institutions are genuine and sincere in performing their functions, it’d be easy to satisfy the rakyat.
Anyway, Congratulations, MB Nizar!
Argus Eye
May 11, 2009
Bro,
Knowing how desperate BN can get, isn’t it possible for Ganesan to call for an assembly sitting and pass a motion of no confidence against Nizar before PR has the chance to seek an audience with the Sultan?
Plus, the Sultan is in the States. As unethical as it may sound, the above could happen couldn’t it?
vengai
May 12, 2009
Yes they already plan this earlier and send the sultan overseas in advace, i think
mei1
May 11, 2009
I feel GOOD….ah, JUSTICE is still around in Bolehland….
Yes, let’s hope for fresh elections happen soon & put an end to this political impasse.
Hartalmsm
May 11, 2009
The Hartal MSM team is glad to hear that Malik Imtiaz ended his association with Malay Mail on the day the Perak assembly saw bedlam.
The 35 comments to Imtiaz’s posting unanimously laud his decision.
However Hartal MSM is appalled at your highly misguided comment (quoted below from Imtiaz’s posting) asking him to jump from the frying pan into the fire.
We would request that you to read and evaluate theSun’s coverage of, and lacuna on the Perak fiasco before recommending Malik Imtiaz to soil his reputation writing for the Vincent Tan-owned rag — the billionaire, like Najib Razak, carries a perception baggage in connection with Perak too.
mei1 said…
You’ve made a wise decision. I think theSun would be a better choice for you to write on print media, at least it’s a paper that dare to speak out instead of all the cover-up & flattering
May 8, 2009 5:48:00 PM MYT
http://malikimtiaz.blogspot.com/2009/05/malay-mail.html
Peter
May 11, 2009
Harris,
The BEST solution for the BN is to get the 3 ADUN to resign and call for a bye-election. A state election would cost more and we need to save all those money at a time like this. BN has to now tell the 3 friendly ADUNs to be “friendly”. Only in this way can BN save some face or be prepared for a total wipeout in Perak.
Otherwise a State election would not only cost more but cost BN a “lot more”.
It should be as what it was before the for the frog hopping.
BANGKALIPOEYLUKIAKA
May 11, 2009
Brother Haris, the fresh poll is the only solution to mend the crack between the people and the Royal family as we have seen thus far.
I believe HRH Sultan and Raja Muda will make everyone in Perak happy.(Only those goons who are afraid to face the rakyat are the sad ones.)
May be HRH Sultan and Raja Muda should tell the two PKR frogs-Go back to face the Rakyat. I don’t want CORRUPTs to contaminate the holy assembly in my state.
The Ruler must tell the DAP lier-Go back to face the Rakyat. You are a shame to the state, a big cheat, you are not fit to be in the holy assembly.
And to Najis and his hooligan followers, walk the talk or else, you and your party will be perished in the next GE.
Then, it will be PAYBACK Time.
Never ever underestimate the rage of the Rakyat.
Nitasha escamilla
May 11, 2009
Wait folks.
There is this thing known as appeal in courts.
And whatever happended to Sivakumar’s case about the way he was ‘thrown out’?
Why is he waiting? Should he not file a case now?
By the way, it can mean that RPK and Anwar will be having a tough time in courts soon.
This Perak decision may be the trade off?
goldenscreen
May 11, 2009
BN trying to convene an illegal sitting of the state assembly officiated by the illegal speaker Ganesan. FRU needed to block the state assembly from the people whom the state assembly is supposed to serve.
Since Zambry has now been declared the illegal MB, therefore the entire May 7 State Assembly was also illegal because the state assembly was not called by the Speaker of the House but cloaked as a royal emergency sitting approved by the Sultan of Perak on advice of the MB of Perak.
And since the MB of Perak has been declared illegal, logic dictates that the emergency sitting of the state assembly was also illegal. This means that all motions passed in the House on May 7, 2009 is illegal. Sivakumar is still the legal Speaker of the House. Any motion has to be approved by the Speaker.
So it’s basically game over for BN but of course you didn’t think that BN will just sit down and let Perak slip from their grasp again do you? So they have deployed the FRU and possibly thousands more police and goons to Perak. The final showdown is yet to be witnessed.
matt
May 11, 2009
Bro what are your comments on the new speaker as the bn lawyer shafeet just said that his appointment is legal.tks bro.
Soul of Malaysia
May 11, 2009
Haris, you are an legal eagle, surely we all want justice for Perakian’s. Hope not this round is for PRand round 2 and 3 for UMNO as Najib has wowed that he will appeal.First PM in the world who wants to extend the impasse and continue with uncertainty and instablity and contiunance of animosity among Perakians.
Malaysian Shame
May 11, 2009
Malaysia’s state of affairs is like a roller coaster ride sometimes, with, ‘one day up and the next-day down’feeling for the rakyat and at other times a ‘merry-go-round and round’ feeling, not going anywhere at all. Are Malaysians going cuckoo?
The Parliment & the Dewan Rakyat are like the amusement parks for the rakyat.The amusement park ‘operators’ are real fun to watch for the rakyat,not the whole show though!The storyline is always the same boring ones all these 51 years.The Directors/Producers of the show remain behind the scenes,commenting only when necessary.
Making a fool of themselves actually, with all their costumes it’s even more comical. When will all these stop? But, to tell you frankly, we are not amused at all! So, if you are responsible people, prove us wrong and bring all these to an end peacefully without any more unnecessary alarms to the general public.
The lawyers said, they want to be respected as they are, but the Dewan is full of them who misbehaved in general public.Can all lawyers show the public the right way to behave first? Put an end to this if it is within your means and if you claim you know the laws of the country in your finger tips.Do this for the rakyat,if you care.
alvin_gov
May 11, 2009
Dear PR Leaders and PR supporters,
Congratulations to DS Nijar and PR Leaders for they who won the 1st half battle of the constitutional issues but don’t be too carried away for this moment.
UM-No/BN (Najis/Zombie) not going to just let off the current political developments of the court ruling as they would appeal soon. It might be a strategy of getting the Rakyat thought that the judiciary commisssion was acting justifiably in the 1st half of this battle but on the 2nd half, the court may ruled otherwise. Be reminded that this agency (JC) is still the UM-No/BN horse.
Once this happen, PR will have a major set back and cry fouls of the JC’s integrity and therefore any objections by PR of the court ruling that cannot be accepted by PR would be seen as uncivilised or “KIASU” !! (The 1st half UM-No/BN can accept court ruling but 2nd half court ruling cannot be accepted by PR).
PR just have to be very careful and strategizing the next course of action.
Anyway, as supporter of PR, I still believe in people’s power and the best solutions to end the whole episode is to dissolved the assembly and go for a fresh elction.
The PERAK peoples and MINDFULL Malaysian are 1000% behind PR.
Alvin_gov
11-May-2009_2030
http://alvin-gov-rakyat.blogspot.com
Malaysia youth wing
May 11, 2009
Malaysia Youth Wing wing lend Pakatan Rakyat a helping hand if fresh election is declare!we Malaysia Youth Wing the wave beneath the Tsunami,will make sure Barisan National lose and fall hard!
BaronV
May 11, 2009
no point getting excited. BN will simply file an appeal at the Federal Court – the most rotten court in the land
artchan
May 11, 2009
Seriously do you think Najib is capable to handle this. And he wants to appeal..must be a bloody idiot.
If a Sultan can kick out a MB, imagine if one day, the sultan decides that he does not like a certain MB,what happens then?
bee yong
May 11, 2009
Divinity predictions are seldom wrong. 2009 is trul and indeed a year of “CHANGE”. Happy then sad. Bull then Bear. Win then lose. Hope then dispair. Legal then Illegal. Arrest then release. So much changes these few months.
“Change will not come if we wait for some other person or some other time. We are the ones we’ve been waiting for. We are the change that we seek.”
telur dua
May 11, 2009
If all else fails, Najib can always declare himself Emperor and rule like Nero while wearing his new clothes.
LOL.
sunwayopal
May 11, 2009
Guys you forget one thing and I think Datuk Nizar has also forgotten it.
he actually does not need the Perak’s consent to bubar the DUN anymore if the May 7th sitting is deemed illegal as Zambry the Illegal Alien is not the MB at the time and cannot advise the Sultan.
Cause it would have passed the max time elapsed before the DUN must sit.
Automtaically the DUN is dissolved and elections must be called.
Why would Nizar need the sultan punya consent ?
t
May 12, 2009
fyi
WARNING TO TYRANTS!
http://oath-keepers.blogspot.com/
W.Y.Tan
May 12, 2009
I am so happy and relieved, and yet there is an uneasy feeling in my heart of hearts that things may not be what they seem.
BN has no integrity and will not allow democracy to rule. They may use every dirty trick in the book to hang on to Perak.
But I will pray very hard tonight for Perakians to be able to exercise their rights in fresh elections.
Good Luck Perak!
limpek
May 12, 2009
The unexpected result was a sort of air-refresher that we cherish in our otherwise contaminated politic.
It may be short-lived , we dont know ,God knows.
Vote of no confidence can happen either way since the difference is marginal.Today I have 1 majority and tomorrow you have i majority so the ding-dong goes on.
The answer is a Fresh Elections just the way we cherish the Fresh Air.
The answer my friend is in the Rakyat , the answer is in the rakyat.It’s a close fight in the Silver State as both parties are having their own share of supporters.
Let the rakyat decide the Final Countdown and accept whoever the victor is . No sour grape cos it’s a fair fight like a man the way we want it.
Petrus Sabbatius
May 12, 2009
Per Malaysiakini: “The judge noted that the Sultan of Perak can use his absolute discretion in the appointment of the menteri besar and also grant a dissolution to the assembly.”
The Sultan can say NO to Nizar’s request for a dissolution of the state assembly. Then BN will call for a motion of no confidence and Nizar will be booted out – legally.
So there you are. No need for fresh elections. Rakyat should be pleased there is no wastage of money. Najib rocks!
Jong
May 12, 2009
Zambry Haram dah bungkus!!
Good riddance to this idiot. It’s a wonder how the Sultan could have appointed him on advice of Najib. With his PHD this Snake Oil & Gambir salesman couldn’t even sell, just a trouble maker that’s all he knows!
sharleen
May 12, 2009
i hope it x SANDIWARA …
vengai
May 12, 2009
Bro Harris,
we stiil dont know what the goons realy planned. May be the regent gring or Mc esok so that Yb Nizar cannot meeat hin . and in the appeal court if the 98 group controls tha panel of judges, than they can reverse the judment.By the way if YB Nizar is the rightful MB tahn Siva is the rightful speaker. Am i right?Than This new MIc back door cock speaker is no more a speaker?
ktteokt
May 12, 2009
Hail the judge for upholding the law! By elections already caused sleepless nights to Najis, now, we have state elections for the whole of Perak. Think what impact it will have on Najis now. And furthermore, after this episode, BN’s credibility is down the drains. You think BN can still pull up its head and face the people in GE13? Who the hell would be stupid enough to put a cross next to the DACING?
isthisthenews
May 12, 2009
Err.
Ok. From my understanding, V.Sivakumar is still the valid speaker.
If a emergency sitting is to be called, what he can do is suspend Hee Yit Foong for a day, reason being for bringing the house into disrepute. A few other BN assemblyman could be suspended as well.
Furthermore, the Rights and Privileges Committee is to meet ASAP and find Zambry and Co. guilty of impersonating the Menteri Besar and his agents and suspend them during the emergency sitting.
So, in essence, suspend 4/5 BN assemblymen for May 7 incident. After kicking them out, move to suspend Zambry and the “Fake” Exco through an emergency motion in the house. Finally, move for a confidence motion in Nizar. Does this make sense and doable?
Bigjoe
May 12, 2009
Of course its fresh election. Sultan of Perak may make mistakes and even if he is partial, knows he can’t pass up this chance to clean up the mess..
The real question is why Najib don’t see that he should thankful that this allow him to clean up his own mess. He was screwed from the start and he just did not know it.
If he keep insisting he is not part of the problem, then he might as well kiss his career good bye. Its only going to get worst, a lot worst and he better come out with better plan than the one he has right now…
abusyukri
May 12, 2009
Invited guest should read the protocols before being invited or else they will throw the house Speaker out.
Simple metametics, 28 = 28 . The 3 indies is the powermaker ( I have power, remember ) .If they want white MB then side PR. If they want black MB then side with BN.
A bloody mess indeed..
..err dissolve?
p.s BTW could i get my 25 M back , please ?
drsaravananr
May 12, 2009
Court of Appeal granted Zambry a stay order, i’m not sure on what grounds. Now ball is in state regent’s hands. I hope he calls for a dissolution of the state assembly. What a mess we are in!
cheers
ladyRP
May 12, 2009
stay of execution granted!!!! soooo errrr now we got MB yang sah or not???? Me din go law school lorrr
farida
May 12, 2009
Sing to the song of ‘Polly Put The Kettle on’
Zambry, Gandhi, Mandela,
Nothing linked that I can see,
Different classes claimed as one,
How can this be?
G and M for freedom fought,
For themselves, they never thought,
Z’s nowhere near where they are,
To talk such rot!
Petrus Sabbatius
May 13, 2009
farida,
you are good!
Shakuntala
May 14, 2009
Yesterday at the commemorative Forum for May 13th,atthe PJ Civics Centre Auditorium,one could gauge the state of affairs we’re in in this country.
The People, Malaysians from all walks of life, gave MB Perak, Nizar, a thunderous applause as he came into the auditorium and later received standing ovations.Cries of “Nizar” rang out to the accompaniment of never-ending clapping. It was very uplifting, especially as a gloom had descended upon Malaysians over the last few days.
The light surrounding Nizar was in stark contrast to the awful darkness that Zambry had unleashed over everyone. Nizar was clearly the Peoples’ light dispeling that darkness.
That was the electrifying presence of Nizar Jamaluddin, so rightly chosen by the people. His oratory, loud and clear was equally arresting…he began from a verse in the Quran…. that the Almighty had created all of us from one man and woman, and that is the reason why we are all part of one family.
What did the sinister looking Zambry get? …boos, boos and more boos, when his name was mentioned. We also laughed out loud at his attempt to wear Mahatma Gandhi’s shoes…..!!!!!
Every speaker,including Anuar,Nizar,Kit Siang,Tengku Aziz, Ragunath, Tricia Koh, Azmi.. echoed what the people want….fresh elections to determine the rightful MB of the State of Perak.
It was Nizar, Nizar all the way
With clapping mixed in his path like mad!
The general concensus was that PM Najib was afraid BN would lose, and lose badly if fresh elections were to be called for, in Perak.
There was ostensibly no FEAR, not at all.We were a huge sea of Malaysians, so totally happy and proud and we’re waiting hungrily for the re-birth of Democracy in our Malaysia.