Got a call from Rocky Bru Wednesday last about my ‘spin doctor’ post.
Rocky said there was one big problem with my post.
The meeting in Bangsar that I had alluded to in that post never happened.
I told him that in fairness, I would post an update on that story and disclose our conversation and what he said.
Immediately after that, I made a phone call to another person, and then tried to call Rocky but could not get through, and so I left Rocky a voicemail asking him to call me back.
Courtesy of the telcos, Rocky never got the voicemail.
Spoke to Rocky again on Friday last.
He pointed out to me that the way my ‘spin doctor’ post was written up gave the impression to readers that I had myself witnessed that meeting in Bangsar and not that I was relying on some other source for this bit of juicy info. Therefore more believable, so Rocky seemed to reason.
A bit like how Rocky being quoted, as he was, in theStar in ‘Windmills of political change’ as saying that RPK, Zorro and I were all either inspired or sponsored by Anwar, might leave many with the impression that Rocky knew this to be fact from his own direct knowledge. Eh, Rocky?
Yes, Rocky is right.
The way I wrote up the ‘spin doctor’ post could well leave the impression that I witnessed the meeting in Bangsar that I reported, which is not the case.
I relied on information of that meeting in Bangsar from a person whose integrity and credibility I have come to greatly respect.
It was to this person that I made the phone call after I first spoke to Rocky last Wednesday.
I told him that Rocky informed me that the meeting in Bangsar never took place.
His reply?
“Bro, I will stake my life on it. That meeting took place”.
In my phone conversation with Rocky last Friday, I told Rocky about the conversation I had with my informant and said that if I was going to write about his disputation about that Bangsar meeting, then, in all fairness, I would also have to disclose what was said in my last conversation with my informant.
Hence this post.
Raja Chulan
January 25, 2009
Well Done Haris
Expose the slime balls of NAJIB.
KijangEmas
January 25, 2009
rocky, if what Haris said is not true, then sue him for slander. If you’re not willing to sue, then just shut up and stop whining like the pro-mahathir bitch that you are.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but rocky is playing a dangerous game by inciting racial tension with his blog postings. He does it in a very sneaky hit-and-run fashion as well. Tells you everything you need to know about the man: a Wormtongue of the highest order. From today onwards, rocky’s new moniker is Wormtongue.
koolgeek
January 25, 2009
Bro, that’s why i asked if the meeting really took place or not because you did not write “according to a trusted source….”
anyway, i think rocky is not politically neutral. it is very clear that he writes on behalf of Mahathir and Najib. He shares their common enemy, PR and Abdullah.
Of course there is no problem with that as a blogger (although he wouldn’t explicitly blog about it but only use other people’s words). But as a journalist?
Take for eg. Utusan writing loads of BS, poisoning the minds of Malaysian, spinning for politicians. Is this what professional journalism in Malaysia has degenerated to?
In my humble opinion, Rocky should be the p.r person for Mahathir and Najib. He is not qualified as a journalist.
however, i’m more worried about the police than him. mahathir and umno has made a mess out of our public services.
koolgeek
January 25, 2009
two things here;
first, he denied the meeting ever took place.
second, he merely said you blogged it as though you witnessed the meeting.
i believe the first one can easily be verified. either he or your informant lied.
as for the second point, he has got a valid concern, although i don’t see it’s important.
backStreetGluttons
January 25, 2009
This is getting suspenseful , like a spy vs spy thriller when 2 Super friends become foes Bloggers clash , of which one will surely die first and we
do not for a moment think it will be you
dear Haris . Lets pursue this to the end then
koolgeek
January 25, 2009
“Bernard Khoo (blog name Zorro Unmasked), Harris and Raja Petra Kamarud din (Malaysia Today) were all either “inspired or sponsored by Anwar”, said Rocky.”
Sponsored? So did he verify that claim by providing your Maybank account details or saw Anwar handing out $$$ to bloggers?
Anyway, he was wrong. This is Barisan Rakyat. Not Pakatan Rakyat.
koolgeek,
Those who know Zorro, RPK and I do not need us to come out and refute this.
They know the truth.
Thank you, friend.
And yes, we are for Barisan Rakyat.
Always.
imwatchinu
January 25, 2009
If you want to be a blogger and want people to read your stuff, you must be prepared to take it all in. Not everyone will agree with you no matter how well crafted or opinionated your articles are. Just so long as you don’t sell your soul to the devil, people will respect you even if they disagree with you.
Mr Smith
January 25, 2009
It is very clear that Rocky is no more in league with the ‘Real Bloggers’ like Raja Petra, Haris, Zorro, and Susan or Jeff. You all want change. He wants the BN staus quo to remain.
He has a different mission, different aims, different goals and different ambitions. He has to start building bridges (to the corridors of power) to secure his future.
Which means he has to distance himself from your Bloggers, Barisan Rakyat and Pakatan Rakyat.
This isn’t the Rocky that you all knew when he was sued by NST and Kali the Mullah.
Thong
January 25, 2009
Haris
You guys can easily make money if you want to by just sending out feelers to you know who. Glad that what motivates and moves folks like you are fair play and
justice for everyone.
Keep it up
Sinatra_Z
January 25, 2009
Nope I never thought you were inspired by Anwar.
Ayah Pin maybe…
Anwar…. Nah.
Ibnu Khuzaimah
January 25, 2009
I was born in Bangsar, schooled in Bangsar, worked in bangsar… New Straits Times ,… The biggest factory of spin doctors.
During my tenure in NST I learnt the art of spinning, not only gasing and I graduated as a spin doctor…
Linda J
January 25, 2009
I don’t know about the others present at the meeting but I have always thought of Nuraina as a person of integrity. Could she and would she verify this meeting? What say you Nuraina?
delcapo
January 25, 2009
I actually think it’s healthy that we have Rocky from “the other side” countering Haris’ efforts…. keep us on our toes, no?
but for this round regarding the Bangsar meeting… sori, Rocky… big bro Haris wins =]
Richard Loh
January 25, 2009
I DEFEND HARIS OF PEOPLE’S PARLIAMENT
Hei rockybru, you can defend utusan for printing lies, so what’s wrong for Haris to print some lies, if it is lies at all.
rocky, you can do what’s wrong but others cannot, is that right?
For those still visiting rocky’s blog, (which I had stop visiting after his integrity and honesty were exposed by his own doing) think again.
CPK
January 25, 2009
Non-partisan readers make their conclusions about a writer’s principles and integrity based on his/her writings and actions.
Suffice to say that I stopped reading Rocky, nor place any weight to his opinions, quite a while back. But I still follow People’s Parliament regularly.
Whether or not the meeting did take place does not change this.
temenggong
January 25, 2009
Haris,
Rocky and Nuraina are denying. They imply that you or your informant is a liar. Or dreamer.
Now that it has gone this far, you have to let it out in full now.
temenggong,
I stand by my informant
artchan
January 25, 2009
Zorro was right to remove rocky from his blogroll.
If Rocky is your friend..you do not need enemies
syedaziz
January 25, 2009
I find it weird that Rocky’s and Nuraina’s blog postings are so similar?? For example, see the way they introduce the racist article by KijangMas… almost like they were in sync or something… it’s totally believable that they are both now working for Najib and Mukhriz… I see the old ugly tactics of umno racist politics being put across in a subtle way by both Rocky and Nuraina. Rocky and Nuraina, care to swear on the Quran to set the record straight?
Anonymous
January 25, 2009
Rocky and Nuraina sitting in a tree,
B-L-O-G-G-I-N-G.
yh
January 25, 2009
rocky and nuraini involved? then why the denial from rocky? if thats true, rocky would have lost a ton of respect!
i for one, who supported him with my boycott against nasty pee, have long ago noticed the change in him. his posting on the teresa kok episode confirmed once and for all his leanings towards the current powers-that-be. No, he is anti-thesis to bansga Malaysia. But, i guess thats his choice of call just as our steadfast believe to Bangsa Malaysia. So let’s respect his stand and let us not depend on him to fight for a just cause which is Bangsa Malaysia.
edisham
January 25, 2009
pak haris,
it doesn’t matter whether rocky deny it or not, because people believe you more…..
Goostee
January 25, 2009
I too have lost faith with Rocky for some time now. His true leaning became suspect when my comments on Mahathir found no place in his blog more than once. In my writing I have tried to draw attention that Mahathir’s tirade was his veiled attempt to promote Najib in order to assure his son Mukhriz gets to the seat of power. But, who can blame Rocky for his change of stance. The footsteps of that chap who appeared in the “D’luar Lingkungan” program of TV1, during the KT PRK, must have been his inspirations. Never mind that the program miserably failed to capitalise on Perak’s FREEHOLH LAND issue !!!
shar101
January 25, 2009
On Wednesday 21st January ’09, Rocky posted this –
http://rockybru.com.my/2009/01/unemployment-insurance-anyone.html
in which he wrote “A former minister told me the other day….”
Haris’s disclosure of the infamous ‘La Bodega’ meeting also mentioned ‘JJ’ whom we all surmised was in fact a former minister.
Perhaps, Rocky can confirm which former minister he met, and when/where did that meeting take place.
I have no qualms if a ‘gathering’ took place between like-minded persons to discuss current issues, even if it’s political in nature, but I take umbrage to Rocky’s ‘gutter journalism’ stance lately whilst trying to appear apolitical.
Quite a few of us ‘older’ bloggers supported his (and Jeff’s) cause when they got sued by the NST but along the way, perhaps about 2-3 months prior to GE12, his true colors became apparent. When we continued to carry the ball to bring about real change in this nation, Rocky just sat on the sidelines.
And as the AllBlogs prez, Rocky’s reply to a commentator who requested a clarification at Nuraina’s blog sums up best his principles –
“Fans like you, my friend, are free. Just like Kit Siang’s opinions. And if I may quote Rehman Rashid, an opinion is like rectum, everyone has one. You, Fan, should have kept you opinion to yourself’.
That, folks, is truly and richly mind-boggling.
looes74
January 25, 2009
Temengong,
It’s always an unwritten rule of not exposing your informer. Well, one got to look at all angles. Just as poclies must cover all grounds.
Regards,
looes74
satD
January 25, 2009
I think a picture of the meet is worth more than the life of your informer…..or this lousy response from you.
antubiul
January 25, 2009
‘I relied on information of that meeting in Bangsar from a person whose integrity and credibility I have come to greatly respect’
Respect people do lied. How do you defined intergrity and credibility in the eye of the public. For you your informer has the intergrity and creditability, If he say, yesterday it rains frogs you will believed him and you will wrote it for us to believed. You make us to believed you for what you believed its a relieble story and we make ourselves believed you because the story is so juicy and its from Haris who believed what he wants to believed. Anyway it your world Haris. Your world that depends on informer just like other bloggers be it RPK, Rocky Bru and the rest. Believe your informer to make us believe you. Have you heard of ‘seing is believing’.
Devan
January 25, 2009
Rocky…
How much are you being paid by UMNO???
You are another EZAM…who received $2 mil and solved all his housing loan issues!!!
Your master is none other then the old f***** cock…Mahathir and the cunning cum criminal..Najib !!!
carmanio
January 25, 2009
bro haris
i am fully behind u & barisan rakyat.
go johnny go!!!
carmanio.
p/s: leave that rocky alone. but if he strikes, u strike back with 10 times the force. i agree to disagree. if rocky’s really doing it for money, i despise him. but if he’s doing it for his genuine heartfelt believe in “the other side”, then i say leave him be. he’s entitled to his “honest” opinions.
Sinatra_Z
January 26, 2009
bodoh sial bergaduh dalam internet.
Seriously,
winning an internet debate is like winning in the special olympics. In the end, even if you win you are still a retard.
Whatever happened to different point of views,
different opinions.
What’s with,
either you are “with us” or “against us” attitude.
What’s with the chastising non Pakatan Rakyat supporters whenever they criticize. Look it’s a freaking boring blogsphere if everyone were to hype an get all groupies and fanboys excited over Anwar Ibrahim like RPK and Zorro right. Mesti la ada lain punya views.
Chill man,
this is the Freaking internet. You’re not supposed to take it too seriously (or too emotionally).
krishna parasar
January 26, 2009
man you are insane!
Dante Jebat
January 26, 2009
Last Thursday evening @ 02:30pm I personally saw Rocky & Nuraina @ 1st Floor of BV and then I saw Rocky & JJ @ La Bordega BSC @ 08:15 pm same day. Unless JJ have a twin brother, I might be mistaken.
Rocky! Come clean with this. Your integrity is at stake.
Dante Jebat
Eric
January 26, 2009
“satD Says:
I think a picture of the meet is worth more than the life of your informer…..or this lousy response from you.”
SatD,
good on you to demand integrity and ask for proofs. A shame you only apply this outside UMNO for our dear ministers. When will you guys understand double-standards are a no-no?
satD
January 26, 2009
Eric
What kinda of twisted logic you are trying to imply here? That i apply double standards? If so to who?
Since when did i became UMNO, PKR, PAS , DAP or whatever la?
A stupid answer is a stupid answer?
The same like your lame attempt to lump me into a “special group” that only demand one way transparency.
Is this the level of thinking in people’s parliament?
Takkan la kut….i hear people here are full of “wisdom” with super duper “deep” sources with “referential integrity”?
Show me la if u got proof?
Or is your source coming straight from inside the “teapot”?
And who leaves voicemail these day…SMS la brader..
kalu kencing orang biar la logical sikit
Harapan Baru
January 26, 2009
It’s rich for people like Richard Loh above condoning lies… And people like Mr Smith saying that the real bloggers are only the sympathisers of Pakatan Rakyat.
Shows how narcissitic you people have become.
And Dante Jebat? What kind of a stupid fool are you? What is there there to clear about? Integrity? Hogwash!
haris Ibrahim and Zorro meet regularly with Rocky and Nuraina at Press club. Did they conspire on anything also? Anwar Ibrahim met regularly with Jewish lobbyists. What is wrong with that?
Integrity is at stake? What kind of idiotic thing to say!
You are so afraid of your own shadows, you guys will throw everything everywhere! Obviously being reduced to stupidity is not in the domain of Umno anymore.
People with so little political power (Pakatan Rakyat) also had fallen to this kind of mental diarrhea.
Grow up people! Nak jumpa orang pun boleh jadi issue ka?
As if the informer knows what those people were talking about… jeez! Get a life voyeurs!
I think Haris, you should concentrate on reigniting the Ayah Pin sect. I know a lot of Muslims people in Malaysia want to get to know the true Islamic teaching that you had envisage.
have a good night
Dante Jebat
January 26, 2009
Harapan Baru,
Stupidity by choice aren’t you?
Rocky Bru claimed Harris Ibrahim is lying. Harris Ibrahim is claiming he is telling the truth and Rocky Bru is lying then.
I personally saw Rocky Bru & JJ @ La Bordega BSC and by the way, I am not the informer Harris Ibrahim referring to.
It is obviously Rocky Bru is lying. Unless to your standard integrity have nothing to do with the action of lying.
Does that meeting between Rocky Bru & JJ happen? That is the question.
Henceforth my request for Rocky Bru to come clean with this issue because his integrity as a journalist who will always upheld the truth is in question. It is hard for me to believe what he is writing in the future; I am sad about it because he is 1 of the journalist that I had respected before until this incident.
I don’t care whether Rocky Bru sit down with Mahathir, Anwar Ibrahim, Pak Lah, Najib or even you and the damn satan itself as long as he upheld his integrity in writing the truth.
Understand the issue before rambling with your stupidity by choice writing.
Sleep well then.
Eric
January 27, 2009
SatD,
good, though twisted indeed, attempt to deflect my comment. Yet you failed to reply by changing topic.
Well, to show you the one using twisted logic is not me here, I will bother to reply your queries.
As to your orientation with UMNO, just a cursory read of your blog would suffice: “I hope that both parties look into their common grounds in which PAS and UMNO can work together for the Malay and Muslim Ummah of Malaysia” from Mamihlapinatapai P036 Kuale Gannu, or “i only care for the plight of the Malays and the fate of our nation” in Legalising Money Politics. Your disclaimer in Legalising Money Politics sounds very lame when crossed with your posts, links and themes.
As to you applying double-standard and one-way transparency, when did you ask any of your favourite bloggers to justify or prove their point the same way you did here?
I am not from people’s parliament, just a commenter. At least the people here are not vulgar (cf satDnomic stimulus……..sequences in economic wanking,foreplay and intercourse)…
“Show me la if u got proof?” This one I cannot but agree like I did in my previous comment. As they say, one picture speaks a thousand words.
And who judges human beings on their ethnicity (how do you define it anyway?) these days? You should wake up man!
satD
January 27, 2009
Wah Eric since u’ve spent some “cursory time” on my blog yesterday searching every key words of UMNO,TUN, Mukriz etc….this is the best u can come up with…this is your fatal blow that gonna nail me on the head ka?
Come on la mister….i think you can do better than that…lets see ya…
Cursory read (either you don’t understand English or just malas to read the post!!) go read again so that you DO NOT MAKE A CURSORY CONCLUSION based on very limited information…..
So now the onus is on me to prove my own disclaimer?
kelakar la lu….
Why do you complain if i’m vulgar in MY OWN BLOG?
Does that makes me less of a person in this skykingdom of yours?
Bile mase gua judge human based on ethnicity?
How did u come up with that statement mate?
What great research have you done to infer that i am such a person? Care to share with me…
I sure don’t judge people….even GOD does not judge people until the end of time…..and i do not work with the Judiciary….
Or are you saying what you are here in this statement….a racist who judge people based their race and skin color?
Wah Wah…..somemore ending statement with the typical “wake up man” with the trademark exclamation mark…….original la lu brader…so so original..
Well thank you for your effort Eric…hope u have a nice holiday….ambik 20cent ni pi main jauh jauh..
Back to the blog owner-
Do you have any pictures of the meet?
Do you have any recordings of the “meetings” to be able to infer(with the source betting his/her life on it) what you’ve said in your post?
I would like to BET AGAINST your source…he/she would fit well with my collection of bodies of “cyber tukang karut” aka dalangs who loves to spread rumors the quality of South American 3rd grade soap-opera
Eric
January 27, 2009
“Wah Eric since u’ve spent some “cursory time” on my blog yesterday searching every key words of UMNO,TUN, Mukriz etc….this is the best u can come up with…this is your fatal blow that gonna nail me on the head ka?”
Please do not worry, I never meant to nail you on the head or anywhere else.
“Cursory read (either you don’t understand English or just malas to read the post!!) go read again so that you DO NOT MAKE A CURSORY CONCLUSION based on very limited information…..”
May have been cursory and my English may be poor, but I already have most elements to make my own conclusion. I won’t deny some of your postings are adding value, but I stand by my comments above. Anyway, smart move not to come back to the “lumped into one group” thing, a bit too hard for you to deny.
“Why do you complain if i’m vulgar in MY OWN BLOG?”
Interesting this one. I guess you can comment about the people’s parliament’s people (“Is this the level of thinking in people’s parliament?”), but now you make me understand people cannot comment about your blog. Talk about double-standards.
“Does that makes me less of a person in this skykingdom of yours?”
Interesting again, I have never stopped treating you like a person. Failing which, please show me wrong.
“Bile mase gua judge human based on ethnicity?”
Well I quote your blog “i only care for the plight of the Malays”, which is a recurring theme in your postings. To anyone sensible this closely fits the definition of racism. FYI racism is not about judging. Racism, as you may know, can be defined in the following manners:
Oxford “1 the belief that there are characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to each race. 2 discrimination against or antagonism towards other races.”
Merriam-Webster “1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race 2 : racial prejudice or discrimination “
You accuse me of being one too. Against all my preventions, I might be a racist without realizing it, but one reason I read Haris is because he defends the Anak Bangsa Malaysia. I try very hard to avoid these discriminations, you do well to read Haris for this too. Congrats for this.
“Wah Wah…..somemore ending statement with the typical “wake up man” with the trademark exclamation mark…….original la lu brader…so so original..”
You are right next time I’ll just say “who discriminates based on ethnicity nowadays … don’t be racistla brader…”, unless it is a TM of yours of course. This is so original indeed! With suspension marks, not an exclamation mark I noted.
I do have a nice holiday, thanks. Wish you the same.
satD
January 27, 2009
Eric
Thanks for your reply…here’s another 20cents
Blogmaster…whats ur story? Got proof or Not??
Peter North
January 28, 2009
Eric, shut up and go to sleep. What “Bangsa Malaysia” you talking about? I bet you could hardly utter a decent sentence, let alone write, in Bahasa Malaysia.
Haris, like satD asked, where’s the proof?
Your credibility’s at stake here.
shar101
January 28, 2009
Eric,
Please don’t bother yourself with these ‘rednecks’.
I’ll bet ‘Peter North’ has a kinship to ‘Ron Jeremy’ of the infamous Demi Negara posse which HartalMSM trashed for their multiplicity a while back on this blog.
Rocky posted this on Wednesday 21st January ’09 after Haris did his La Bodega expose on the 20th –
http://rockybru.com.my/2009/01/unemployment-insurance-anyone.html
in which Rocky mentioned “A former minister told me the other day..”
Perhaps, Rocky can confirm which former minister did he meet, and when/where did this meeting take place.
Ironically, Rocky’s posting above was linked to satD’s posting on the same subject published a day earlier. Coincidence? I doubt it.
So what’s JJ’s involvement then?
Let’s stay focus on the ball and not the ‘white noise’ looking for negatives.
Yem
January 29, 2009
Rocky and Haris, stop it right here. Both of you are credible bloggers, so blog your brains about something else. Leave this issue as it is.
I have an impending feeling that this is going to get outta hand. And I’m pretty sure that such a trivial thing wouldn’t push Rocky to go to court on this one.
So live and let live. Both your credibility is not at stake… yet.
amir muhammad
January 29, 2009
Sounds like a case for the CCTV.
Naj
January 29, 2009
Dear KijangEmas (a commenter of this post);
The real Kijang Emas will never write something like you did. I wonder why you have to be someone else just to write a comment here. Any restrictions, Haris? Must I suck up to you to have my comment visible here?
Any proof? An ‘informant’ whose integrity I greatly respect once said that if the opposition (then, it was PAS, DAP and/or PKR) were to take over the government, they’ll bring down the (Petronas) twin towers. I don’t see YB Khalid shouting for that to happen.
Was there a death threat to this informant that he’s willing to stake his life? What, it’s such an important meeting that Mukhriz brought an AK47 or something? How did your informant knew what was being talked about? Was he a waiter? Did he take that long to take orders?
Rocky wrote that he can prove AT LEAST one (of the people you claimed was at the meeting) was absent. This is called PROOF. And it is so much more credible than an informant whose integrity and credibility we greatly respect (and by the way, is it not possible to respect someone but not listen to him? I mean, lawyers must go against each other in a court case and a lot of times credible lawyers with integrity and much respect towards each other will still have to engage in a war of words).
But I suppose if you support Najib you can come up with fake airline tickets and/or fake toll receipt and/or fake stamps on passports huh?
syedaziz
January 29, 2009
Bro, regardless of whether your informant is right or not, it’s clear that Rocky and Nuraina are working together on a joint agenda. Here are some of the indicators:
Nuraina used to blog very infrequently. But suddenly this year, she started blogging every single day and the issues that she covers in her blog synchronize very well with Rocky’s blog postings — coincidence? More likely that they’ve been conspiring together.
Nuraini’s blog postings never used to be controversial or antagonizing, but now her blog postings are just like Rocky’s! Like to cucuk sensitive issues! How come? Very suspicious.
Finally, on the day when 99% of Malaysian political blogs mentioned something about Kugan’s funeral, Rocky’s blog and Nuraina’s blog are covering yoga ban in Indonesia??
Who can blame people for believing your informant, Haris? If Rocky and Nuraina are working together, at least don’t be so obvious.
Choco
January 29, 2009
Uncle Haris,
This little bit of news doesn’t please me a bit. To hear that you and Rocky are in disagreements isn’t sweet to the ear. And honestly, I wouldn’t trust this informant of yours.
I understand your situation. Maybe you’ve relied on this source for some very important info in the past. But sometimes, these trusted allies can be influenced by others, say a politicians’ PA with 5k in cash? You never know, with the stuff Rocky puts out in the wind.
You must understand that everyone holds a side. And it’s the individual choice on wich side that is. I suspect that even YOU have a side of your own. But that’s up to you, and it’s not anyone’s right to tell you otherwise.
So please, resolve this matter between you and Rocky. You are, after all, his lawyer. And the client-lawyer relationship (if this issue isn’t resolved) won’t go smoothly.
May God be with us all.
Choo Chuk
January 29, 2009
I think that Rocky and Haris are actually working together to bring down umno. Rocky is undercover deep inside umno so that he can get important info from umno politicians and pass it on to Haris, who then passes it on to pakatan. That’s why pakatan have managed to stay one step ahead of umno at the recent by-elections. Haris’ informant is Rocky! Rocky and Haris have to pretend like they are fighting to throw off umno’s suspicions.
Choo Chuk,
Good one, this
Mr_Ahmad
January 29, 2009
you all want to fight about this nonsense. what can you all gain by rooting to these two fellas. money? or personal satisfaction. such trivial matters…
fslam
January 29, 2009
All RPK, Zorro Unmasked , Harris Ibrahim etc want is a Malaysia free of racism , religious extremism , corruption , fairness , freedom of expression and arrogance of power.
If these people want to benefit from the rewards of their allegiance , they could have easily gone to the defence of the BN’s actions and policies and they will be given contracts , gifts and what have you.
In particular RPK did not need to brush with the jaws of the police , ISA etc and live in comfortable airconditioned environment instead of a 6 ft by 6 ft cell in Kamunting.
These are the people who fights for their principles. These principles which they dearly hold on are what all Malaysians aspired for but being denied. The right to free expression , the right to demand a corruption-free government , the right to live in an environment free of racism and religious extremism , the right of the rakyat’s demand for good governance and accountability.
They are different from groups or individuals with hidden agenda and worst still benefits from their actions and writings in blogs. The rakyat can see through their writings anyway.
The people should support the blogging group that see that actions and policies being genuine benefits for the betterment of society and not propagating corrupt governments and individuals.
morkymoqq
January 29, 2009
Dear mr harris,
It has turn out that we readers have to take side on this one battle of goliath between the 2 of you.
As both of you developed strong characters in dealing with this matter, my only hope that whatever transpire will end up in good hope no matter which side (pro BN ka, Pro PR ka) you decided to venture in.
There is always an amiccable solution for this issue and i hope you guys can take it up in more gentleman manners.
cheerio
morkymoqq
Barackah
January 29, 2009
I have never like you Haris.
But on this issue I believe you.
But in the first place why is Rocky so defensive about it?
So obvious he’s got a game to play.
sieg heil
January 29, 2009
Haris – I’m new to your blog & I like what you stand for. I’m very glad that you have exposed Rocky as the slimeball that he has become of late. I used to enjoy reading his articles in the past but like many others, I noted the maliciousness in his reporting that is undeniably very pro-UMNO & their twisted racist agenda, pro-Mahathir and pro-Najib.
Keep your guns blazing brother. The truth always prevail.
Sieg Heil
cresma
January 29, 2009
rocky becomes defensive because haris accused him in something that is not true and thus, denting his reputation. Haris is doing character assasination on rocky. Since rocky had proven that the purported meeting that was supposed to discuss ‘to pin all blame to Pak Lah’ did not happened, then the innocent Rocky was accused unjustly by Haris.
You got that barackah?
Naj
January 29, 2009
My respect to the both of you (Haris and Rocky) for being calm and collected (in my opinion, at least) throughout this whole issue. I for one do not think I’d be able to stand the ‘character assassination’ these commenters are doing to the both of you.
People, be rational. Think before you write anything.
I read for example what one syedaziz commented; ‘regardless of whether your informant is right or wrong’ and then he went on making allegations about Rocky and Nuraina. I mean, by stating ‘regardless..’, you’ve totally exposed how you think, syedaziz! You have a certain way of thinking and you try to find whatever ‘facts’ that will support your ‘truth’.
Come on Haris, you’re better than that. Think. Really think. And rely on facts. Not perception. That your informant is a man of integrity and credibility might be fact. That he stumbled upon a ‘meeting’ might be fact or perception. That this meeting ‘have a certain agenda’ might be fact or perception. I just find it hard to believe he can actually eavesdrop on some important ‘players’ conversing about some arguably important things.
I dare not say his integrity and credibility as mere perception, for I do not know him.
But then again it might be that it’s MY truth which is twisted. Please correct me if so.
Thank you, keep calm as I know you shall, and give it a serious thought.
Naj,
Thank you. I will certainly give all that you have said very serious thought.
Peter North
January 30, 2009
I somehow knew that Bro. Haris would self-destruct sooner or later. Must be the company he keeps.
Too bad man. Your sorry ass is grass now.
Pete
orange
January 30, 2009
rocky does protest too much.
dk
January 31, 2009
i trust you haris, i’ve been reading and tracking your blog from the begining and your intentions and reactions have always been very consistent.
it’s difficult for me to say the same about rocky tho. he seems to be quite ‘shady’ nowadays. for one, why did he not go with the team of bloggers to observe the KT by-elections (even if he did not want to campaign for any particular party, he could have easily just observed – and contribute his views as a 3rd party)? his answer on his blog of lack of accomodation seems lame to me.
just beware guys, maybe, wolves in sheep’s clothings!
Az
January 31, 2009
Isnt this hearsay? And if so, isnt it fitnah?
Dont write something we dont really know unless we can prove it or we see it ourselves. Too many unnecessary sufferings are a result of such irresponsible attitudes!
cilipadi
January 31, 2009
Haris,
Anyone can tell you are the ‘real’ one.
Rocky is ‘fake’.